Tune Req: Griselda

Subject: Griselda
From:
Date: 01 Oct 00 - 08:38 PM

Can anyone send me music (abc or .gif) for the song, "Griselda"? The lyrics are posted at:

http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=2442

Thanks

______ /\/\/\/ <______> | | | | | David Barnert <______> | | | | | <______> | | | | | Albany, N.Y. <______> \/\/\/\/

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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Griselda
From: GUEST,David Barnert
Date: 01 Oct 00 - 08:41 PM

Sorry, the server here seems to have chewed up my ASCII art sig in the previous post, and my e-mail address got lost in the shuffle. Hope it works better here.

David Barnert

Albany, N.Y.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Griselda
From: GUEST,David Barnert
Date: 01 Oct 00 - 08:47 PM

OK, it looks like it's deliberately omitting the e-mail address. I'll watch for an answer here.

davbarnert[at]aol-dot-com ;)

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Griselda
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 01 Oct 00 - 10:16 PM

Your signature and address got screwed up because you used the kind of fussy punctuation (those pointy brackets) that browsers interpret as .html code; essentially, you typed in an instruction to hide whatever you put inside those brackets.  If you right-click on this page and select "view source" (or whatever the equivalent is in IE if you use that), you'll see what I mean.  Have a look through the FAQ thread at the top of the main Forum page, which will explain all that stuff.  Griselda, though whoever posted it here doesn't seem to have bothered to say, was recorded on Have Moicy (1975), by Michael Hurley with the Unholy Modal Rounders, and Jeffrey Fredericks & the Clamtones.  I can't give you the tune offhand, but I'll look for it; with luck, somebody who has it to hand will turn up.  Generally, we don't send stuff to people; check in occasionally and you'll probably get an answer on this thread, though.  If it seems to have disappeared, just select a longer-term filter in the "refresh" option: threads don't get deleted, even if they seem to have vanished over the horizon.

Malcolm

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Griselda
From: georgeward
Date: 02 Oct 00 - 03:30 AM

Dave, I can sing you the chorus over the phone (I'm in the book). The verse melody has gone somewhat out of my head. Do you need the whole tune, or just to have your memory jogged? -George

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Griselda
From: TonyK
Date: 02 Oct 00 - 03:59 PM

David, I too know the tune but not how to document it here. GeorgeW's suggestion to use the phone would work for me. Send me an e-mail at [e-mail] and I'll give you a call if you like. Any fan of the Clamtones is worth the effort. I didn't know there were any "Have Moicy" fans out there. TonyK

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Griselda
From: MMario
Date: 23 Jan 02 - 11:18 AM

DT still minus the tune. anyone have it?

Subject: Tune Add: Griselda
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 23 Jan 02 - 01:37 PM

I had completely forgotten about this thread.  Since the DT file omits a verse and differs in places from the recorded version, I may as well post the whole thing as it appeared on Have Moicy!  Does anybody know Antonia's surname?

GRISELDA

(Antonia of the Unholy Modal Rounders -second name unknown)

Come won't you walk with me, Griselda,
Wearing your dress that moonlight shines through.
I am a sad and lonely boy,
Since your mother said I couldn't see you.

Slipping through the woods in the dark of the night,
Calling to the moon up yonder:
Oh lady moon, won't you shine your silver light,
And lead me to my Griselda.

Do you recall last night, Griselda,
Learning the lessons Nature taught us?
Watching the fish jump in the lake;
It was lovely till your mother caught us.

Moon flower vine upon on your window
Gives me a foothold for my climbing.
I got a rowboat on the lake;
Moon is out and all the stars are shining.

I got a jug of wine Griselda.
Why should you waste your time in sorrow?
Hold out your hand and have no fear;
If we're caught, I'll marry you tomorrow.

A midi of the tune will go to the  Mudcat Midi Pages:  meanwhile it can be heard via the  South Riding Folk Network  site:

Griselda (midi)

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Griselda
From: Stewie
Date: 23 Jan 02 - 09:21 PM

Malcolm, when she is mentioned on any of the HMR albums, it is simply as 'Antonia'. She was co-author, with Stampfel, of the essay on the Rounders that was an insert to 'Alleged In Their Own Time'. In that essay, Stampfel wrote in respect of her:

Antonia's kareer (mine is spelled with a k too) is checkered. When I met her, she was reading her poems in a Village Cafe and had priorly been a Psychedelic guide (remember psychedelic guides?) in 1960 & 61 (she, not me had been a). She is the Great Cosmic Straight Man, an ace pornographeress, and has sold spaghetti in the Italian Kitchen on 14th Street.

She wrote or co-wrote other Rounders songs such as 'Hoodoo Bash', 'Jealous Daddy's Death Song', 'That Belly I Idolize', 'If You Want to Be a Bird/Wild Blue Yonder', 'Football Blues' and 'God, What Am I Doing Here'.

--Stewie.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Griselda
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 23 Jan 02 - 09:28 PM

Thanks, Snuffy.  I've never seen her referred to as anything but Antonia, either, so we'll probably have to let her credit stand at just the one name!

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Griselda
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 23 Jan 02 - 09:29 PM

Er, Stewie.  Sorry about that; time I was off to sleep...

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Griselda
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 13 Jul 05 - 08:42 PM

What a great song!

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Griselda
From: GUEST,DeHypnotist
Date: 25 Jul 05 - 02:09 PM

It is still Antonia Stampfel.

There is a great version of Griselda by Jeffrey Frederick and the Clamtones on the new double CD, "Clamtones B.C."

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Griselda
From: GUEST,Annie
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 03:17 PM

I just came across this old thread, looking for the lyrics for Griselda.

Antonia was Peter Stampfel's wife.

In the 70's, I use to go see the Unholy Model Rounders whenever they played down the Village. Antonia was taken ill with some sort neurological disorder, that no one could figure out what was the cause or what to do about it. Peter took her everywhere with him and helped her get around. I heard that she did eventually recover.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Griselda
From: beeliner
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 03:31 PM

Antonia's professional surname is Duren.

Don't know if that is the maiden name or a husband's name.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Griselda
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 07:56 AM

One of my favorite songs! I even have a cat named Griselda (and know of at least 2 other cats named after the song!). Thanks for this info.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Griselda
From: beeliner
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 12:21 PM

There is a legend in my family, very likely true, that my several-times-great-grandfather, named John, was a seafaring man who owned his own boat/ship and sailed out of Philadelphia.

He and his entire crew were lost at sea in a storm, leaving his large family destitute. His widow and her entire brood were taken in by a Dutch family, who had a daughter named Griselda, or Grizzie for short, and when John's children grew up and married, two or possibly more of them named their first-born daughter Griselda in honor of the family who had rescued them.

No connection with the song, but a great story - it could be its own song.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Griselda
From: GUEST
Date: 14 May 18 - 02:33 PM

This is the Lost World String Band's excellent rendition of Griselda https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLwa9MYM1BU

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Griselda
From: keberoxu
Date: 19 May 18 - 06:28 PM

Here is something that evolved from "Griselda."

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