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Your MudSupport Is Requested

Hardiman the Fiddler 10 Oct 00 - 10:37 PM
alison 06 Oct 00 - 02:34 AM
wysiwyg 05 Oct 00 - 06:02 PM
wysiwyg 05 Oct 00 - 05:42 PM
Tinker 05 Oct 00 - 05:37 PM
Bradypus 04 Oct 00 - 07:33 PM
Tinker 04 Oct 00 - 05:21 PM
Joe Offer 04 Oct 00 - 03:09 AM
BlueJay 04 Oct 00 - 02:44 AM
Mbo 03 Oct 00 - 06:44 PM
SINSULL 03 Oct 00 - 05:02 PM
wysiwyg 03 Oct 00 - 05:02 PM
Greyeyes 03 Oct 00 - 04:41 PM
mousethief 03 Oct 00 - 04:36 PM
Wesley S 03 Oct 00 - 04:12 PM
Peg 03 Oct 00 - 04:04 PM
wysiwyg 03 Oct 00 - 04:01 PM
mousethief 03 Oct 00 - 03:44 PM
Peg 03 Oct 00 - 03:42 PM
SINSULL 03 Oct 00 - 03:31 PM
GUEST 03 Oct 00 - 03:04 PM
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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: Hardiman the Fiddler
Date: 10 Oct 00 - 10:37 PM

I just want to thank you all for the words of encouragement and the prayers offered on behalf of Praise and me during this past arduous week. The weeks aren't all usually that hectic---it seemed like everything happened at once. I really haven't had a chance to read this thread before now, although Praise read portions of it to me as we were dropping off to sleep each night. Having done what I do over the course of the last 21 years, I've learned a little something about trying to keep a balance, and I've learned that grace helps to carry me at those times when I wonder if it will be physcially possible to go on...but I am sure grateful for all your support and encouragement.

As you may know, Praise and I spent the last two days at a clergy conference---these are usually a glorious opportunity to skip what's being presented and catch up on sleep...something which we both did!

Thanks, and may God keep you all!

Greg


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: alison
Date: 06 Oct 00 - 02:34 AM

Prayers from over here too....

and some old favourites we used to sing

High King of Heaven after victory won
may I reach heaven's joys, O bright heaven's Sun
Heart of my own heart whatever befall
still be my vision, O ruler of all

(from "Be Thou my vision")

and

You're my friend and you are my brother
even though you are a king
I love you more than any other
so much more than anything

You alone are my strength, my shield
to You alone my may spirit yield
You alone are my heart's desire
and I long to worship you

(from "As the deer pants for the water")

slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: wysiwyg
Date: 05 Oct 00 - 06:02 PM

What I meant was, make a new thread for the song request... duh, tired here. Forgot you can;t mind read what I mean.

OK. Although I will be online briefly tomorrow, it's a dead run from now till... the middle of next week, with one more funeral, an antique show to pull off, two visiting bishops and their wives, the Saturday night service, two services Sunday with the bishop's visit for baptism and celebration after, and then, collapse on Monday and Tuesday? No... clergy & spouses (spice?) conference Monday and Tuesday, meant to refresh but not usually so.

And we are much more tired, Hardiman more so, than we should be. So it must mean another chance for God's strength to be in us and to show forth from us.

So again I would just ask, "Please would you pray that Hardiman know the abiding strength and peace of our Lord and that he remain filled with the joy his ministry is?" Anything else won't reach us anyway until we have come back and rested.

Thanks again for all your support. It goes out from us to all we pray for, as well.

~Susan~


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: wysiwyg
Date: 05 Oct 00 - 05:42 PM

These have really been helping. Hard part yet to come, this weekend.

Could one of you please copy and paste the song request that is buried somewhere above in this thread and e-mail the requestor (royl) that this has occurred? I am modemically challenged.

~S~


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: Tinker
Date: 05 Oct 00 - 05:37 PM

"Works always in tranquility! Fuss and feverishness, anxiety, intensity, intolerance, instability, pessimism and wobble, and every kind of hurry and worry~ these even on the highest levels, are signs of the self-made and self-acting soul; the spiritual parvenu. The saints are never like that."
"St. John of the Cross says that every quality or virtue which that Spirit really produces in human souls has three distinguishing characters, tranquility, gentleness, strength."
~~Evelyn Underhill, The Spiritual Life, pp.72&71.

Praise, did you know that the Ruach Elohim, the Spirit, the life breath of God in the Old Testament, is a feminine plural noun? (Somehow the guys always forget to mention it….) Many Eastern Orthodox Christians still revere the wisdom of the Spirit as Sophia, Lady Wisdom. When those oh so human fusses take over. Breathe.
Breath of Life, Spirit of Wisdom, Lady Sophia, calm and center us in Thy wisdom and grace. Help us to dance in harmony with the songs around us. To keep the rhythm of the ever-changing cosmos and the tranquility of the everlasting trinity centered in our being as we toil at each daily task.
Tinker
Hardiman, hope I didn't offend. After years with Bishop Spong, we Episcopals in Newark can tend to the fringes. Blessings


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: Bradypus
Date: 04 Oct 00 - 07:33 PM

It's better to feel tired than to feel nothing
It's better to feel pain than to feel numb
There may be an empty space
Someone else will fill that place
And it's good to know the best is yet to come

It's hard to look around and see folk missing
It gets harder still as month by month goes on
Yet we know that by God's grace
They are in a better place
And it's good to know the best is yet to come

God bless

Bradypus


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: Tinker
Date: 04 Oct 00 - 05:21 PM

When I first started putting together this exercise, I was thinking of latchkey children and the fact that no child should every feel lost and alone. But I've since realized that we all need to exercise hospitality, and the newly bereaved, and the overworked are just as likely to take heart.
Now take out your keys and put them in your hand. For just a moment think about the number of times a day you open a door. A car door, a work door, the door to home at the end of the day.....
BEHOLD

Behold,Behold,I stand at the door and knock,knock,knock
Behold, behold,I stand at the door and knock,knock,knock.
If anyone hear my voice,If anyone hear my voice...
And will open,open,open the door I will come in...

Try just for a day, to use your keys as a touchstone.. a prompt to welcome Christ to enter with you and be with you, in the "empty" house, the argumentative meeting,or just to take a ride.
May the Lord be with you....
Tinker


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: Joe Offer
Date: 04 Oct 00 - 03:09 AM

Well, Susan, I wonder if you can get Hardiman to the computer long enough to play Hardiman the Fiddler for him. If not, there's Sheet Music Here and Various Formats here. One of those links will also take you to various formats of Hardiman's Fancy Jig.
All the best to you both.
-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: BlueJay
Date: 04 Oct 00 - 02:44 AM

Hardiman- I pray you never tire. As a nurse, I've many times witnessed the comfort you folks of the cloth have given to the ill and their families. Your services are truly indispensible, and a well accepted part of the medical community. I understand this, because I am the nurse who calls you at 3 am to give you disturbing news, and I've seen the faces of the families who are so anxiously awaiting your arrival. My training and experience enable me to provide some small comfort, but it's not the same, they are waiting for you. And you've never taken more than a few minutes to arrive.

God Bless you in your work. You are doubly blessed having Praise to aid you and bring this to all us Mudcatter's attention. Do try and play a tune, at least ocassionally. That's about all I can manage, and it is a great diversion. Thanks for all you've done, Jay


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: Mbo
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 06:44 PM

Hardi, I'm not sure if I can say anything better that what these fine folks have already. I will be praying for you. You are an amazing human being (even my Mom thought so!) and may God's hand tend you with care. BTW don't forget, you owe me a story! As for the dear departed friends you've had to lay to rest, remember Ben Franklin's epitaph:

The Body
of
Benjamin Franklin,
Printer

(Like the cover of an old book
Its contents torn out
And stript of its lettering and gilding)
Lies here, food for worms.
But the work shall not be lost
For it will (as he believed)
appear once more
In a new and more elegant edition
Revised and corrected
by
The Author.

--Benjamin Franklin


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: SINSULL
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 05:02 PM

Praise,
I know many truly strong women who every once in a while ask "When is it my turn to lean? When is it my turn to be taken care of?" Just a moment's rest. If you keep forgetting that, then you need one too. Take care of each other.
Mary


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: wysiwyg
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 05:02 PM

One last post and print here before home, and it welcomes a new friend, Greyeyes! (You will be hearing from me! *G*)

I wish youse guys could see the PM and e-mails. May paste some in anonnymoused, tomorrow.

~S~


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: Greyeyes
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 04:41 PM

Praise, have taken your advice and joined.

I'm not religious but am thinking positive thoughts for you both.


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: mousethief
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 04:36 PM

Isn't it hard
To be the one who gathers everybody's tears?
Isn't it hard
To be the strong one?
--Bruce Cockburn

Alex
O..O
=o=


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: Wesley S
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 04:12 PM

It makes me wonder - Who ministers to the Minister?? I have to agree with Sinsull that you have to take time out to recharge the batteries every once in a while or you won't be any good to anyone."To thine ownself be true." And Praise don't forget to read him those lyrics I sent you by Pierce Pettis. They apply to Hardiman too. Take care and God bless the both of you.


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: Peg
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 04:04 PM

Praise:

Good, I was getting scared there for a minute...:)


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: wysiwyg
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 04:01 PM

Peg, no, that isn't our last name!

LOL.

Printing this and heading home shortly.

Sinsull, yes, I figgered that out this AM, but it's amazing how easy it is to forget when I am up to my ass in alligators too. Keep reminding me.

~S~


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: mousethief
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 03:44 PM

I've heard of "missionary dating" before, but that's ridiculous! (grin)

Prayers and kind thoughts for you both, Praise & Hardy.

Alex
O..O
=o=


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: Peg
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 03:42 PM

I may have read it wrong, but is Hardiman's first name Greg?

Ya know, my very first, ahem, "boyfriend"'s name was Gregg Hardiman, and Praise, am I correct in my recollection that you live in western NY state?

If so, you just might be married to my first boyfriend! (I think we "dated" for all of three weeks in seventh grade)

I wonder if he knows his ex is a card-carrying pagan now!

Many blessings on you both...


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: SINSULL
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 03:31 PM

Praise,
For the sake of your congregation and your husband, take one day or one part of a day and let the world revolve around him if only for a few hours. Quiet time with a book, his favorite meal, music, just a walk together alone. It is his turn to be taken care of and your job to do.
Love you both.
Mary


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 03:04 PM

Praise and Hardi,

I have found that when things are tough thats when the tough get going, but I also have found that even the tough reach a limit. When my marriage was going down the tubes and Mom was in a hospice there were times when I felt there was no way out. Sometimes I wasn't sure if it was worth going on. I send the following story along with my prayers.

One night, a man had a dream, He dreamt that he was walking along the beach with the Lord. Across the sky flashed scenes from his life and in each scene he notice there were two sets of footprints in the sand, His and the Lords.

When the last scene flashed before him, he looked back at the footprints in the sand and noticed that many times there were only one set. He also noticed that they occurred at the lowest and saddest points in his life.

He said to the Lord, "Lord you said that once I decided to follow you you would walk with me all the way. Yet I noticed that in my most troubled times there were only on set of footprints. I dont understand, when I needed you the most you left me.

The Lord replied, My precious child, I love you and I would never leave you. During your times of trial and suffering, when you only see one set of footprints, It was then that I carried you.

Hardi, As you do your Pastoral duties, with Love and Passion, Hurt and Sorrow, I am sure you also have a helping hand. Even with all of our prayers.

God Bless,

Sailor DAn


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: Bert
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 02:07 PM

Praise & Hardiman, Hang in there guys. Thinking of you.

Love

Bert.


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: KingBrilliant
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 01:52 PM

Will include in prayers

Kris


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: GutBucketeer
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 12:43 PM

Praise and Hardiman:

I give all the support and wishes that I can. Thanks for being perceptive and providing supoort in the past!

Sometimes, it doesn't seem like it is so, but over time you reap what you have sowed. You have both have sowed mightily in your lives.

Sometimes, it doesn't seem like anyone notices, or appreciates, but I promise you, they (we) do.

It may not seem like it now, but there will come a time when you can rest, look back on these times, and see the good that you did (and be glad that they are over).

So wait for the rainbow after the shower. In the meantime Mudcat is here for you.

JAB


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: wysiwyg
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 11:59 AM

Oh you guys. Hardi loved it when I read all last night's posts to him, after the shock that I had EXPOSED his lack of perfect strength!

And I see fresh perspectives that hep me help, too.

You darlings.

I forgot to tell you what else Hardi did when he joined Mudcat. He had been teaching himself fiddle for a pretty short while. So when he joined, he struck up a PM correspondence with three or four other new learners he spotted in the threads. That man wrote every one of them personally to encourage them, at great length, each message fresh although the info was often the same. No cut and paste for this man-- all fresh, all felt. Because these were folks who were kinda shy about getting the encouragment in the threads. He's like that. Works behind the scenes and never says a word about it, usually. So it is hard to see sometimes what has tired him so, behind the cheerful face as he looks for the next chance to serve a fellow human being.

~S~


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: sian, west wales
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 09:48 AM

An old sunday school 'motto' for children comes to mind: Dear Lord, be good to me. The sea is so wide and my boat is so small.

And, with that, the Old-Time hymn which I have a habit of playing ad infinitum when I'm stressed ...

When peace like a river attendeth my soul,
When sorrows like sea billows roll,
Whatever my lot, Thou has taught me to say
It is well, it is well with my soul.

Thinking and praying for you both.

sian, west wales


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: Peter T.
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 09:48 AM

Take some thought for yourself, Mooh. It doesn't matter when it happens, losing your father is something else. And I do mean something else. yours, Peter t.


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 09:34 AM

This one always helps


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: Robby
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 08:42 AM

We've never had the pleasure of meeting, but I have a great respect for those who serve the Lord, whether or not we share the same religious. To help in this time, let me share the chorus of hymn we used to sing a Childrens' Mass where we once lived, for we are all children of the Father:

Come little children, come to me,
And I will give you comfort and peace;
Only come, only come unto Me.

May the Good Lord grant you the peace and serenity of his Love.


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: CamiSu
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 08:06 AM

Hardiman,

As another who puts others ahead of myself, I will offer what my friend who is praying with me gave me. God is doing the work and is taking care of you, too. I send you also the 23rd and 91st Psalms, which are really wonderful for finding rest, even when in action! Bless you both, and thanks Susan for your support of me in my efforts! I'll let you know how it is going! Gotta go start my rounds.

Big hugs and backrubs!

CamiSu


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: Tinker
Date: 02 Oct 00 - 10:11 PM

Whatever is forseen in joy
Must be lived out from day to day.
Vision held open in the dark
By our ten thousand days of work.
Harvest will fill the barn;for that
The hand must ache, the face must sweat.
And yet no leaf or grain is filled
By work of ours; the field is tilled
And left to grace. That we may reap,
Great work is done while we're asleep.
When we work well, a Sabbath mood
Rests on our day, and finds it good.

WENDELL BERRY,Sabbaths

Remember, keeping Sabbath time is a commandment. For all those who toil in the Houses of the Lord taking time each day (if only in moments) to follow the ebbs and flows of life. Every project can survive a pause, every crisis a cup of coffee. Take a moment to feel the pat on the back that is waiting to help you along (or push you down to rest) and listen....."Come follow me, and I will give you rest"
In my prayers...
Tinker


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: Sorcha
Date: 02 Oct 00 - 09:40 PM

All that up there, and then some, for both of you. All the extra I have to spare right now..........


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: Amergin
Date: 02 Oct 00 - 09:35 PM

I don't pray or nothing, but you, Hardiman, are in my thoughts....


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: Mooh
Date: 02 Oct 00 - 09:32 PM

Dear Susan and the Fiddler,

It's hard isn't it? I was raised by a clergyman and his wife, my parents, who were connected in love, life and Dad's calling. I'm not sure sometimes if they could have raised 5 kids to adulthood in any other way than they did. The church was an indispensible element of the equation of my upbringing. I saw first hand the profound results of the various stresses my folks endured, and I know I was affected too. I think I'm the better for it, for the hurt has passed and only the good remains.

Dad conducted the funerals of his own parents some 40 years apart, and that of his first child at its birth. I can't imagine what that did to him and my mother, but they survived and somehow were the better for surviving it together. The hurt has passed, and only the good remains.

Two months ago my Mum (she likes it spelt that way) called me to say that Dad had passed away in his sleep beside her that morning. There was no unfinished business between them, except for years they won't have to enjoy together. The hurt will pass, we know that by experience, and only the good will remain.

This weekend I will likely participate in the disposition of my Dad's ashes. It will hurt, and I'm not looking forward to it, even though I suppose it means some kind of closure for me, but I know it will pass and only the good will remain.

It is somehow trite to say that the current stress will pass, because it doesn't make it pass any more quickly. However, after the fact, there will a time of rest because God dictates it. What you learn, feel, and share will be the good you take from it all. The hurt will pass and only the good will remain.

Please know that you are not alone in prayer. Please also know that there is a Thanksgiving for all things. Just as everything has a cost, a hurt I suppose, everthing has something for which to be thankful. My hopes and prayers are with you both.

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE LIGHT SHINES IN THE DARKNESS
From: Susan from California
Date: 02 Oct 00 - 09:23 PM

Praise and Hardiman,

You are such a blessing, I hope this one that was written by my friends Tom & Jennifer Rufsvold bring you guys some comfort (and as I tell my students--I mean 'guys' in a non-gender specific manner *BG*)

THE LIGHT SHINES IN THE DARKNESS

CHORUS: The Light shines in the darkness
And the darkness will never overcome it.
The Light shines in the darkness
And the darkness will never overcome it.

VERSE 1: In the beginning was only the Word.
The Word was with God and the Word was God.

VERSE 2: All things were made through him nothing left out.
What came into being through Him was life.

VERSE 3: Life came through Him
And this life is our light.
When night closes in
We can never doubt.

This is done in a round and it is really wild sounding. If you want me to call you, Keith & I could sing it to you or your answering machine...PM me, and we'll try to find a good time! I've got to get speakers & a mic for HearMe!!!!

Love and Prayers headed your way,

Sue and Keith

HTML line breaks added. --JoeClone, 9-Nov-02.


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 02 Oct 00 - 08:48 PM

Here's one for Hardiman, faithfull servant of God

Father,who art alone
Our helper and our stay
Oh hear us, as we plead
For loved ones far away,
And shield with thine almighty hand
Our wanderers by sea and land.

For thou, our Father God,
Art present everywhere,
And bendest low thine ear
To catch the faintest prayer
Waiting rich blessings to bestow
On all thy children here below.

O compass with thy love
The daily path they tread;
And may thy light and truth
Upon their hearts be shed
That one in all things with thy will,
Heavens peace and joy their souls may fill.

Guard them from every harm
When dangers shall assail,
And teach them that thy power
Can never ever fail;
We cannot with our loved ones be,
But trust them, Father unto thee.

We are all travellers here
Along lifes various road,
Meeting and parting oft
Till we shall mount to God;
At home at last with those we love
Within the Fatherland above.

Strength to ye mate. Yours, (always) Aye. Dave


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: GUEST,roy1@wanweb.net
Date: 02 Oct 00 - 08:27 PM

I am looking for the words to a Hymn and I don't know the title and it is over 70 years old.The chorus goes like this. Take me back to Calvary,just let me tarry there. Where Jesus knelt and prayed for me It was all because he cared.The starting of one of the verses goes like this. (I would stand beside the Tomb) Any help you can give will be greatly appreciated My Mother used to sing this back in the 1930s Thanks Louie Roy


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 02 Oct 00 - 08:13 PM

I'm an atheist and have no wish to be anything else, but I respect people who help others, however they do it.  Best of luck to you.

Malcolm


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: Áine
Date: 02 Oct 00 - 08:12 PM

Dear Hardiman (and you too, Praise),

Can't remember where I heard this; but, it was a lady of a certain age (ahem) describing how hard she worked to do a 'good job' in her life, whether that meant with her family or in her profession. She had finally realized that she gave 110% every time, and the people she gave herself to always ended up 110% better off. However, she never got as much as she gave. How many of us have felt the same at some time in our lives.

After getting to know the both of you here on the Mudcat, I firmly believe that both of you are the same kind of person (as are so many of the other wonderful Mudcatters). I know I'm taking the chance of sounding 'high and mighty' here; but, you are hereby given permission to give to yourselves, 110%. Yes, your congregation, family and friends may 'need' you, but if you don't give yourselves the same loving care that I know you both give all those you come in contact with, eventually you'll both find yourselves empty.

Take some time each day to look at each other and say, "You are my love and my partner in life. I will take nothing from you that I cannot give in return. In your need, I will share my love and strength with you. And in my need, you will share your love and strength with me. Then we will never be empty, but always have each other in our hearts."

And I'll share a little story with you that my daddy used to tell me when I near the point of giving up. My grandfather lived in a small Texas town during the 1918 flu epidemic. The pastor in town had to bury more than half of the folks there, and at one point, told my grandfather that he had lost his faith in God. My grandfather told him to remember the mustard seed, and that sometimes, God shows His love in the smallest of ways. A few days later, the pastor buried a baby boy beside his mother, father, and grandparents who had all died in the two weeks before. The only member of the family left alive was a little five year old girl, with shining yellow hair and crystal blue eyes, who was the only person able to come to see her little brother buried. The pastor struggled through the service, barely able to read the words in his Bible. After trying several times to continue, he gave up and fell silent. The little girl walked over to him, and took his shaking hand in her small hand. She gave his hand a little squeeze, and said, "That's all right, Pastor. They all know we're here. And God knows too. Don't worry, I know that He'll take care of us both from now on." That pastor died about 30 years later, after serving his congregation all that time, and he was buried beside that same family.

Wishing you both all the love that I can give you, I know that you can pull through these hard times together.

-- Áine


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: Biskit
Date: 02 Oct 00 - 08:00 PM

Well I hope that you'll get this tonight.I pray for all three of you everynight, I've been doin' that since a couple o' days before I metcha. But I'll sure put a special word in tonight. I love you guys, you have become very special in my life, and I pray that God gives you peace. On a lighter note, My new Grandson is comin' for a visit tomorrow ! I'll take pictures and send you the best one! Lotsa Love all around, Donnie


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: wysiwyg
Date: 02 Oct 00 - 07:00 PM

I'll be printing this out around 9PM EST if I can see through all the tears. Thank you so much.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: Hollowfox
Date: 02 Oct 00 - 06:36 PM

Hardiman, you've been having a hard year. Lots of changes through death, parting, and things we haven't heard about. A friend of mine in similar circumstances said it was like God cleaning the closet; lots of big, swift changes. Things like that, and the emptiness and the unknown future that comes with it, can just wring you out. And being a minister, you're always expected to be wise, insightful, understanding and giving. Remember what legend says was carved on King Solomon's ring? The initials for the words that would make the sad smile and give the joyous pause :This too shall pass." We'll keep you in our thoughts here on the 'Cat, in all the many ways that we do it. Maybe somebody else can find the gospel song "He Knows How Much You Can Bear", it's not in DT, and I'm running out of time to search here at work. For yourself, you've been doing everything right, but remember that it's not good stewardship to exhaust yourself down to a nubbin. Granted, you can't reschedule funerals, graduations, or other stress, but please try to take out a few minutes a day for some self-maintenance. I've known other clergy to take up martial arts, or "fighting" in medieval recreations to let off steam. Five minutes of chopping wood, or even a hot soaking bath to relax all your muscles wouldn't cut into your worktime too much, and maybe they'd help. I hope so, Mary


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: catspaw49
Date: 02 Oct 00 - 06:28 PM

I ain't never been none too good at them hieroglyphics so THANKS JON!!!! Good man Jon.......for a vampire.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 02 Oct 00 - 06:25 PM

spaw, try http://www.mudcat.org/Detail.CFM?messages__Message_ID=57791

Note the "=" rather than the "#"

Jon


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: Peter T.
Date: 02 Oct 00 - 06:23 PM

I send you a Buddhist thought from a great master (from a workshop on burnout I attended years ago) -- "We vow to save all beings, but that is an absurd vow, what does it mean? It means that in spite of what we know, in spite of our limited powers, we wish that everyone could be saved -- it is the root of our impulse to save all beings that we value, however much we falter in practice. And we do falter; and we cannot save all beings singlehanded, and we need to remember occasionally to have some compassion for ourselves as we spread our compassion around the universe. Occasionally we need, to reverse the Christian saying, to do unto ourselves as we would do unto others."

yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: catspaw49
Date: 02 Oct 00 - 06:22 PM

Ok...I'm an idiot, but take care of yourself anyway!!!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: catspaw49
Date: 02 Oct 00 - 06:21 PM

Well I whupped up.................

One more time...maybe

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: catspaw49
Date: 02 Oct 00 - 06:13 PM

Well Hardi, sounds like tough times, but to some degree, that's your business. So its understandable that things get equally tough on you, but always take a few for the two of you and for yourself. Advice like that is obvious and cheap, but its also well meant.

Since you weren't around back then, the first time we ever met Cletus and Paw on this forum was when they had been out deer hunting and things didn't go too well. Paw had to do the eulogy himself and he didn't do too bad a job........Eulogy for Buford

Turned out later that Buford ahd a six pack in his fanny pack and it absorbed the blast, so all's well that ends well. Take care of yourself.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: skarpi
Date: 02 Oct 00 - 06:11 PM

Dear Susan , I will pray for both of you but I am afraid that the prayer will some time to you over the ocean from Iceland to you. I hope that Hardiman will get a good rest and I know that god will thank him for his great work in gods house.

All the best from skarpi Iceland.


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Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested
From: GUEST,Kernow Jon
Date: 02 Oct 00 - 05:40 PM

Praise
The prayers of my family are with you and Hardiman tonight. We've recently had a pastor move to one of our village churches who was taking 15 funerals a week in London,way too many.
The love and prayers of all the villagers has helped him back up. I'm sure a good man like Hardiman will soon be strengthened again.
God Bless you both.
KJ


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