Discussion: Universal Soldier

Subject: RE: Discussion: Universal Soldier
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 23 Sep 22 - 03:20 AM

Donovan used Liebau instead of Dachau so as not to upset his German fans.

Dave H

Subject: RE: Discussion: Universal Soldier
From: GUEST,meself
Date: 23 Sep 22 - 03:01 PM

Strikes me as a rather unsatisfactory 'conclusion' - a bit like 'the answer is blowin' in the wind' ... or 'oh, well - what can ya do?' (i.e., don't go after the powers-that-be to try to stop war; try to make yourself a better person instead).

And 'emphasiz[ing] individual responsibility over group identification' was probably not even novel back when Jesus was doing it .....

Subject: RE: Discussion: Universal Soldier
From: Black belt caterpillar wrestler
Date: 23 Sep 22 - 03:51 PM

Reading this thread for the first time and it occurred to me as follows:-

Hitler condemned the universal soldier by making him follow orders.

Most of us are familiar with the excuse "I was just following orders", which is not an excuse.

Robin.

Subject: RE: Discussion: Universal Soldier
From: GUEST,meself
Date: 23 Sep 22 - 08:36 PM

Always found that a remarkably awkward line - "But without him how would Hitler have condemned him [them?] at Dachau" - and could never for the life of me imagine why Buffy let it go. I always assumed, though, that it means that Hitler was able to 'condemn' to death the inmates of Dachau because so many 'universal soldiers' were willing to do their part by carrying out his orders.

Subject: RE: Discussion: Universal Soldier
From: GUEST,The Sandman
Date: 24 Sep 22 - 03:56 AM

But Universal Soldier is still a good song, it is thought provoking, EVEN if i has one or two weaknesses

Subject: RE: Discussion: Universal Soldier
From: GUEST,meself
Date: 24 Sep 22 - 12:03 PM

Definitely a powerful song, and thought-provoking - and as such, worthy of discussion.