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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: alison Date: 18 Oct 00 - 03:38 AM Nurses who work in ICU's call the "donor cycles" too.....and they see an awful lot of donors..... slainte alison |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: ddw Date: 17 Oct 00 - 11:49 PM Just a by-the-by..... Around here the term "crotch rocket" is pretty well confined to the likes of the Kawasaki 900 Ninja and such bikes, but a fellow I work with came up with a better name — "donor cycles." david |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: GUEST,Joerg Date: 17 Oct 00 - 09:15 PM Obviously, DougR. :-DDD Cheers to Mbo! Joerg |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: DougR Date: 17 Oct 00 - 06:36 PM Ugh ...question. Is this still the Goodbye thread? DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: InOBU Date: 17 Oct 00 - 04:48 PM HEY MBO! Being a young fella is tough, we have all been through it. BUT, to many folks around here get out of the kitchen rather than sticking around in the fray. All that folks say to each other, we still kinda like each other. Look, Richard Bridge and GeorgeH and I got fairly heavily into it discussing Ireland, and I can say, I think we are good friends. So, stick around old friend, and get old and grey like and with the rest of us... Larry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Jon Freeman Date: 17 Oct 00 - 03:15 PM Not sure Namaenson, Harleys with their rumble, buzzing 2 strokes, old British thumpers (ever seen a Panther 600 - ?650 single?), BMWs and the Japanese stuff, etc. have all had their appeal to me even though I have not had the pleasure of riding many of them (have ridden up to 900s when I was young and before I cared about the law though...). I like to think that all these machines offer something although I would be inclined to agree that the quieter ones tend to be the better ones. I got myself banned (fortunately on my own Honda CB 200) for drink and driving when 21 and I accepted (rather than kicked aginst) that I deserved the ban... Jon |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Naemanson Date: 17 Oct 00 - 02:50 PM You know I mentioned the noise as being obnoxious but there is still, on visceral level, an appreciation of the low rumble of a Harley. The problem is that some riders get their manhood wrapped up in the sound level and do what they can to make it louder. These are people who do not understand the philosophy of "speak softly and carry big stick". They haven't figured out that a quiet competant person carries more weight than the brash loudmouth. The same thing goes for motorcycles. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: GUEST Date: 17 Oct 00 - 09:47 AM M of Harlow.... This Yank has never heard that expression before. Goodbye. I am leaving because I am bored. -- George Saunders' dying words. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: rabbitrunning Date: 17 Oct 00 - 09:21 AM Do you realise how hard it's going to be to get mad at the motorcycles revving outside my window at midnight when I'm think of them as "crotch rockets"???? *gasp* *chuckle* *SNORT!* |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Jon Freeman Date: 17 Oct 00 - 09:02 AM Kendall, I had motorbikes for several years - only small ones like Honda 250s but I covered quite a few miles. I think that the best bit of riding advice I was ever given was "assume that every car driver is a maniac out to kill you". I am just wondering if I am alone in thinking that those who have ridden motorbikes (and survived) are a lot more aware of the road than people who have only driven cars. Jon |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: SINSULL Date: 17 Oct 00 - 08:51 AM Sorry Kendall, but you lost me back at the "open widows ...blasted into silence ...by CROTCH ROCKETS." Poor ladies. Sounds like you live in a rough neighborhood. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 17 Oct 00 - 08:46 AM Do Americans use the expression "On your bike!" ?Meaning "Get lost" - I'm just curious. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: kendall Date: 17 Oct 00 - 06:55 AM unnecessary noise is unnecessary noise no matter where it comes from, and people who delight in making unnecessary noise, are, IMO...unnecessary. Believe it or not, I am an ex biker! I gave it up because there are more assholes in cars than on bikes. My wife (at the time) and I were riding in St. Martin, when we rounded a curve, some dink in a car met us on the wrong side of the road. I had no place to go but OFF the road, and, of course there was a rock pile there at the point of enrty. I wound up on the bottom, she wound up on top, and the bike in the middle. My right hind leg took months to get back to normal, and, I havn't ridden since. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Lonesome EJ Date: 17 Oct 00 - 02:27 AM Yeah,I like the "throaty rumble" vintage Harley sound.What I object to is the high-pitched brrraPPP_PAP_PAP glass-pack snapping sound they are putting in the mufflers of some of the new ones. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Liz the Squeak Date: 17 Oct 00 - 02:22 AM Give me the gut rumble of a Harley over the boom boom boom of certain car stereos any day! You know the ones, where the damn thing is so loud the entire back end of the car vibrates..... At least Harleys look pretty (by the way, saw an amazing Yamaha Classic something, at Llanfair, apparently it's local and can be seen outside the chip shop every Friday - chrome on the chrome and a noise that makes Harleys sound like an angel's fart.....)these damn boom boxes are usually stuffed into the back of a Ford Fiesta or a manky old Escort.... We get them up and down our road, and you can hear the damn stereo before you hear the car! There is one that is so full of speakers, there is no back seat anymore, or boot (trunk), just speaker..... sheesh! LTS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Sorcha Date: 17 Oct 00 - 01:50 AM No sorry there, LeJ. I am with all of you on the deicble level of a what ever. Loud noises, of a certain pitch, do bother this "deaf" lady, and so do loud car stereos of things I do not want to listen to. But--- The "rumble" of a Harley is still distictive, and recognizable to an "afficiando" and I guess that is part of the "cult mystique?" Hell, I don't know, I don't ride at all, I just live with 2 guys who do. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Lonesome EJ Date: 17 Oct 00 - 01:37 AM Sorch,I'm a rider myself.Cut me and I bleed Yamaha.I have heard Harleys that were so goddam loud that it sounds like an explosion when they're started.I put those guys in the same class as the goofy teenager who blasts his obnoxious music through his car stereo because it's no fun unless everyone else gets to hear your music too.I know plenty of warm and friendly Harley folks,but I think the Biker Icon of the Hell's Angel encourages a lot of assholes and people who want to be assholes to buy Harleys,put on the colors,and lean on other people's sensibilities. Sorry. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: DougR Date: 17 Oct 00 - 12:45 AM On the highway, Sorcha, I would give you no argument. In my neighborhood, forget it. DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Sorcha Date: 17 Oct 00 - 12:05 AM Maybe we need to start a new thread called MudCat Motorcycles? And kendall, "Crotch Rockets" are obnoxious. They have a high pitched whine, sort of like a small chain saw. I admit Harleys are loud, but it is a deep, distinctive rumble that is not painful to either the ears or the gut. To some, it is actually soothing, and seems to be always "ignorable", IMHO. It certainly is not as painful to me as loud car stereos, or "crotch rockets" . Oh well. To each his own. I am not a "rider" because I do not like the Wind In My Face, and I hate other people's loud noises too, but the rumble of a Harley on the highway really doesn't bother me. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: hesperis Date: 16 Oct 00 - 11:42 PM *sheesh* |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: GUEST,Joerg Date: 16 Oct 00 - 09:39 PM kendall, biskit - didn't you know that Shakespeare can be ridden and a motorbike can be cited? It's all the same: you can do it the loud way or you can do it the good way. Once you do it the good way you might hear people calling: "Louder, please!" In reverse ... well, there are few who dare to say "Better, please!", especially as this is an insult. Most people just get upset, without actually wanting to insult someone. ;-) Praise - just sent an email to you. Sorry for being so late. Joerg |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: kendall Date: 16 Oct 00 - 09:22 PM Hey, I didnt aim that at anyone in particular, but, you are right, I AM narrow minded in some ways. For instance, I believe I have a god given right to be able to listen to my TV or stereo with my widows and door open, without having them blasted into silence by some noise worshipping dude on a "Crotch Rocket" And a few years ago, I had one ripping back and forth by my house, so, I did confront him and asked why he had to make so much noise. As best I can determine from his limited IQ he thought it was fun..None of the neighbors did. Right now, he is doing 5 years for drugs.Ah.. blessed peace and quiet. Praise, there will be no fight.. just an old fart running his mouth! He's harmless..(And, if you believe that, you will also believe there will be a Richard Simmons Jr. too) Sorry Biskit, no personal insult intended. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: wysiwyg Date: 16 Oct 00 - 06:16 PM Donnie. You tickled me as you reached over my shoulder with that! Shame on you, tickle a girl. (Psst! Tavern 3 coming up! And no barfights!!!) ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Biskit Date: 16 Oct 00 - 06:09 PM Nooooo..not really lookin' for trouble(*Grin* an'a peck on the cheek for Susan)I just believe a man of such obvious inteligence and wit should temper his sharp tongue with compassion for ones fellow man, I mean after all Shakespear,..WHOA Dude! Otherwise someone might think you a pompous, blustery old fool who hides behind his computer and cares nothing at all about other peoples feelings.OOOOps sorry Susan that just kinda slipped out... *Grin*w/much blushing.-Biskit- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: SINSULL Date: 16 Oct 00 - 04:40 PM OOOPS. Sorry Clinton. I was thinking of Chuck Hemrick. CH - there's the connection. By the way, tomorrow is Chuck's birthday. Sandy Toes is his SO. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: wysiwyg Date: 16 Oct 00 - 04:40 PM ...sssssneak!........ And in a flash, there I am, standing in between Biskit and kendall, who are nearly toe to toe.... My! What a nice place to be! Lessee, who gets my front... kendall, since Biskit and I have met and hugged and he knows the layout awreddy. Besides, if I face you, Donnie, the look on your face is liable to crack me up and THIS IS SERIOUS! You both nicely distracted now? Oh goody! ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: kendall Date: 16 Oct 00 - 04:22 PM you looking for trouble sonny? as Shakespere said "If you spend word for word with me, I shall make your wit bankrupt."
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Biskit Date: 16 Oct 00 - 04:03 PM I didn't lower myself to name calling.The only name I called was Kendall,and I believe he answers to that one. As for me, my manhood, and my motorcycle are both still intact.idea for Kendall though,...next time you see one of "those Guys", with their manhood wrapped up in noise, step right up and state your case.-Biskit- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: SINSULL Date: 16 Oct 00 - 01:27 PM Sorcha, I love being 53. I get away with so much more than at 23. Everyone assumes I gettinbg "funny" or menopausal. Mary |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Troll Date: 16 Oct 00 - 01:18 PM Actually, it's not ALL downhill. It's down this hill and up that one and down it and miss the curve and through the fence and across the field and into a pond full of duckweed but I think you get the idea. troll*** combing duckweed out of my eyebrows |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Troll Date: 16 Oct 00 - 01:15 PM Yeah Sorch. It's all downhill from here. WHEEEEEEEEEE troll ***BG*** |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: GUEST Date: 16 Oct 00 - 01:09 PM ok maybe I should off myself |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: annamill Date: 16 Oct 00 - 01:05 PM Sorcha, you're coming to the best part of life. You're about to enter the free part. Relax and enjoy it. As my ex used to say 'Think of the alternative' ;-) As for Mbo, bye. Love, annamill |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 16 Oct 00 - 12:35 PM Name calling is ok, so long as they are funny names. Slobberdegullion for example. Try here for some other choice examples of the art. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: SINSULL Date: 16 Oct 00 - 12:02 PM Biskit - that was humor. Much like my wish to deep fry the McD's manager's genitals. If you don't like it, say so but no name calling, please. It can only get nasty. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Biskit Date: 16 Oct 00 - 11:21 AM "associate" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: wysiwyg Date: 16 Oct 00 - 11:14 AM I forgot my manners, and I made a thread about it. Anyone else who feels like that is welcome over here: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=26526&messages=2 ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Biskit Date: 16 Oct 00 - 11:14 AM No shocked response here Kendall, that's just the sort of lame,narrow minded, tunnel visioned crap that I'm starting to assiciate with your name.-Biskit- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Liz the Squeak Date: 16 Oct 00 - 11:13 AM Geez, ya go away for a weekend to meet mudcatters and get back to find that the other lot have decided to leave! Praise, I'll PM my EMail to you, please pass it to Mbo and he can get in touch if he'd like to. I don't know about Mbo getting a life, there are lots of folks here who could do well to just put the keyboard down and go talk to a real person once in a while..... LTS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: kendall Date: 16 Oct 00 - 10:49 AM that was not a threat or a suggestion, so, no shocked responses please. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: kendall Date: 16 Oct 00 - 10:41 AM I know what you mean about the noise of a motorcycle..these guys seem to have their manhood wrapped up in a noise..pitiful! I've also wondered if someone was to string a piece of piano wire across the road about neck high, would this type of boob miss his head? Hell he never uses it anyway... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: GUEST,John D. Date: 16 Oct 00 - 10:00 AM Matt hasn't gone anywhere. :o) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Naemanson Date: 16 Oct 00 - 06:22 AM I know what you mean about a hard wek coming up in 3D world. Our office gets audited this wek for the first time in 4 or 5 years. And there is only one pair of shoulders on which the responsibility rests. I already feel the awesome weight this morning. Have a good week, Praise and all. As good as you can under the circumstances. Hail Caesar, We who are about to die, salute you. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Lena Date: 16 Oct 00 - 04:48 AM Thank XXX.I kept on popping in this thread checking for an apparition of his.I'm beginning to miss him really.
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: wysiwyg Date: 15 Oct 00 - 11:07 PM RANT ON, PRAISE GETS A TURN TOO, DAMMIT. Yeah, no problem. I'm gonna be on the Cat a lot less myself the next two weeks. Hope you check on me. I have a hard 3D job to wrap up. Pore me. I'm awful tired. Wouldn't take back a thing I've done in the last week, but time to pay the cost in rest and get that job DONE. I suppose I can always start sleeping during the funerals. I was pretty worried about Matt there too. RANT OFF. Dear Brett. And all MudFriends. ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Naemanson Date: 15 Oct 00 - 10:40 PM Thanks, Praise, for checking on him and letting us know. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: wysiwyg Date: 15 Oct 00 - 10:32 PM Just wanted to let you know that I have exchanged several short e-mail messages with Matthew this weekend as he was engaged in an intense school project with an impossible deadline. My sense of it is that we may not see him around here for awhile, but you never know. What I think was my clearest message to him tried to convey that I wish him well if he is moving on-- I think I said go go go, and go away from Mudcat if you must, but don't go away from the friends you made here, right? (Like myself.) Right? He answered affirmatively. I still do not understand exactly what the last straw was. I've asked him if he and I have anything to clear up, and that's about all I feel responsible for. I can see there has been a last straw for a lot of you, too, over this, and I think from your own viewpooint you are more than completely justified. And I didn't come into this thread now to speak for him. But to say to those of you who are his friends, not just fellow Cafe-denizens-- you do have his e-mail address, right? If not it is listed in Mudcat Resources, ya know. I am hoping that I did a good enough job at my end of being his freind that he will of course want to stay in touch. So I would just encourage you to look to what has been good about your own friendship with him, and start there in this new time. We have two boys his age in the Navy who left like this but stayed in touch as much as they could once the real world kicked into their awarenesses. Now it's our daughter. Same thing. Well, it falls to the adults among his friends here to be adults, IMNSHO, as he starts acting like the really busy college kid he is. ~Susan
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: wysiwyg Date: 15 Oct 00 - 09:55 PM Whooo-ee! Good rant!!! Awards show, The Ranties! Yer nominated! ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Naemanson Date: 15 Oct 00 - 09:38 PM Re: Harleys and Folk Music Rant On! I just came from the Portsmouth (NH) Sea Music Festival and have a new opinion of those damn machines. Admittedly the venues weren't great but the Harleys roaring past every 15 seconds or so certainly didn't help at all. The love affair with loud engines offends me anyway as I sit here listening to the eternal ringing in my ears. The prevalent lack of consideration on the roads today is starting to wear down my generally benevolent outlook on life. If it isn't roaring engines then it's stereos throbbing the bass beat out into the atmosphere. Where and when will it stop. Do these people even have a clue that there are people out here who don't care to hear them? Rant Off! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: wysiwyg Date: 15 Oct 00 - 09:24 PM Joerg, can you please e-mail me since we can't exchange PM's? (I may not get it till AM unless you are quick.) ~Susan motormice@hotmail.com
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: GUEST,Joerg Date: 15 Oct 00 - 09:18 PM Click Posted that just before and don't want to repeat myself that quickly. Somebody (I don't know who) seems to be thinking that there is something funny. There isn't, friends. Joerg |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: wysiwyg Date: 15 Oct 00 - 12:00 AM troll, don't you call my bes/bud a Hell girlfriend! She IS a hellion though. Hmmm... (Joke.) ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Sourdough Date: 14 Oct 00 - 11:57 PM Avoiding totally the topic of Mbo, I ant to carry on the thread creep: I am getting ready for a May 2001 trip from California to Connecticut and back on my bike, a well tested 1983 R-80RT from the wonderful folks at Bavarian Motorcycles. I've been looking at other bikes thinking that taking an 18 year old machine that I have put 80K miles on is risky but it is such a good bike. Twice I have had 1000 mile plus days. This is a real road eater. Present plan is to have the engine "refreshed" and the bike painted and then do it. I do get some oil drops, three or four, after a yhard ride and it offends my aesthetic sensibilities and motorcycles are an aesthetic experience as well as other things. I like getting the bike out in the world, putting it alongside other bikes (it looks great) and then seeing how many of those bikes it takes to add up to my motorcycle's total mileage. Yes, I have looked at the Harleys, Gold Wings and the new touring bikes including the Native American but I am pretty sure I am going to Go Deutsch on my Deutsch Treat. Sourdough |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Biskit Date: 14 Oct 00 - 11:41 PM There are a few of us "57" classics around,lessee,Nomad, Stingray,an'Me! -Biskit- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Biskit Date: 14 Oct 00 - 11:35 PM Amos, The only problem I've found with the new "Indians" is the belt driven Primary(bad idea)with the dry clutch,(worse idea)The S&S superstock 88 cubic inch is cool enough, and yeah they do look real spiffy,but other than the seat and the frame(and the little lit up indian head on the front fender)everything else is after market stuff that you could put together yourself for 8 to 9,000 dollars less! An' that my friend is alot o' Rasin Pie. Peace-Biskit- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: katlaughing Date: 14 Oct 00 - 07:40 PM That's First Nations, Spaw!!! **BG** |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: kendall Date: 14 Oct 00 - 07:29 PM Harley Davidson is about to produce its own brand of computer..it will hit the market as soon as they figure a way to make it leak oil. )and make unnecessary noise, and vibrate) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: bbelle Date: 14 Oct 00 - 07:28 PM Sorchie ... '57 Chevys and '57 Corvettes. Yum, Yum. moonpie |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Sorcha Date: 14 Oct 00 - 07:17 PM Make my Day!, Troll LOL ref: the new "Indians"--Kate and Bubba saw a couple at Sturgis this year. Said they were beeeeuuutifulllll. Don't know how they run, tho. 2 Harleys in this household, and they are in the shop more than out.....but will boys switch? Hell NO! Harley's kinda remind me of 57 Chevy's--ya gotta like to "tinker" with 'em. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Troll Date: 14 Oct 00 - 06:47 PM Sorcha.. You are only 49? Hell girlfriend, I've got SOCKS that are older than that.**BG** troll |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: catspaw49 Date: 14 Oct 00 - 06:36 PM Sorry I haven't.......But I think theyr'e calling it "Native American" instead though........... Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Amos Date: 14 Oct 00 - 06:19 PM Gotcha, Big Spaw -- it was a setup. Harleys are the TQM Revolution made manifest, man!!! Better than Toyotae, right?? BTW, you heard any performance/quality info on those new beautiful mosheens using the old Indian name and the Harley racing engine? ...I can dream, can't I? A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: catspaw49 Date: 14 Oct 00 - 06:10 PM Amos, I was about to kick your ass for some sappy ramblin' boy stuff til I got to the last couple of lines. And try to get the boy on a riceburner......Do you want him broke down in East Bumphuk?? Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Amos Date: 14 Oct 00 - 06:04 PM SONG FOR MEEBO GONE (sniff!) He was a friend, and a friend always So here's to you, Grow it long now, Mbo! and they will come!! Warmest regards, A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Peter T. Date: 14 Oct 00 - 05:45 PM Hey, Mick, did you get sucked into the election after all? yours, Peter T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: katlaughing Date: 14 Oct 00 - 05:23 PM McGrath, YES! They did show Reginald Perrin; one of our very favourites!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Metchosin Date: 14 Oct 00 - 05:12 PM Sure there is Bill ala Dan Hicks and His Hot Licks |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Bill D Date: 14 Oct 00 - 05:03 PM old Country song title:(no song to go with it that I know of)
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 14 Oct 00 - 04:14 PM Once when I was young a friend who was involved in peace movcement stuff with me phoned my home and asked my mother if I was there, and she said something about me not being there any more, and the lad, being of a melodranatic disposition, took it that I'd gone and died. So he was ringing round and organising a memorial service and so forth. Fortunately I ran into him before he'd got too far with it.
But if he had got a bit further, and there'd been people saying what a great fella I was and how they'd all miss me, I imagine it might have been a bit embarrassing for everyone, including me, if I turned up again.
So I'm wondering if Mbo might have just posted that Oasis song because he liked it, and was feeling like sharing it with us, and he never got round to adding in the explanatory bit, or left it out on purpose, as a jeu d'esprit, on the eve of going off for a break.
In which case how's he going to feel reading all this stuff? Especially the nice bits, anyone can shrug off insults, but sincere tributes are a bit harder. You know, I think if it was me, I'd get meself a new cookie and come in as a stranger.
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: catspaw49 Date: 14 Oct 00 - 04:10 PM And you keep spelling Guthrie wrong too you big dumb Mick. ......Geesis, the boy can't get anything right! Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Big Mick Date: 14 Oct 00 - 04:00 PM Hey Groucho.............bite me!!!! What the hell you doing, throwing research and appropriate dates on me when I am trying to wax poetic. I hate it when the facts get in the way of a good story. It just ain't the Irish way........hahahahahahaha..............it was meant as a rhetorical comment on the furor caused by Dylan leaving the "pure form". You are absolutely correct on Houston at that time, but I believe that I read in Joe Klein's that Gutherie and he had become disenchanted with Dylan early on over some of this stuff. I will have to go pull that out and find the timeframe. Interesting, your take on Geer. While it is true that he was never a singer on the level of the others, he was surely a singer. I believe he performed extensively in the Village. I will check that out and get back to you. In fact he apparently said that every time Gutherie stayed at his place he had to replace his Martin guitar as Woody would borrow it. Anyway, Matt, ignore that picky prick Marxist and take the message for what it is worth. Mick |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Clinton Hammond2 Date: 14 Oct 00 - 02:51 PM What's a SandyToes? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Groucho Marxist (inactive) Date: 14 Oct 00 - 02:37 PM Mick, By the time Dylan went electric in 1965, Cisco Houston had been dead for four years and Woody Guthrie was into the final stages of his battle with Huntington's Disease (he died in 1967). I don't think it would have bothered Odetta because she did albums with electric backing in the '60s herself (she did a great version of "Strawberry Fields Forever"). As for Will Geer, he was an actor whose connection to folk music was primarily through friends like Woody and Cisco. Groucho |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Big Mick Date: 14 Oct 00 - 02:26 PM Matt, Sorry to see you go, it has been great having you here. Gave the place a different feel, you were kind of like our collective kid. You reminded me what it must have been like for Guthrie, Geer, Houston, Odetta and company when the spiritual heir(Dylan) to their legacy plugged in that electric guitar. Do well, keep in touch, get regular xercise, practice every day, and don't forget to eat your vegetables. Oh,.......and watch your mouth young man. You are not to old for a whuppin'. LOL. Mick |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Naemanson Date: 14 Oct 00 - 01:54 PM OK folks, break it up. There's nothing more to be seen here. Why don't you all go home and let things sort themselves out. Oh, you're already home. Well then let's go annoy another thread. To the Matt supporters, your hearts are in the right place but let's not go overboard. He needs to fly and he is doing the same thing young people have done for generations. If you love something let it go... To the Matt detractors, I'm sorry you feel about him as you do and I certainly won't argue the matter with you. I'm sure you feel justified and our discussion cannot change that. To the lurkers: See! We're human after all! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: kendall Date: 14 Oct 00 - 01:50 PM As Oscar said in The Odd Couple,.."he's got them falling all over him..I'm thinking about getting hysterical myself!" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: kendall Date: 14 Oct 00 - 01:46 PM If I know him, he is probably lurking somewhere, laughing down his sleeve because some of us didnt recognize those words as that of some obscure pop song. At least I gave him credit for having written them! I must go off somewhere and try to figure out why I even cared... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: catspaw49 Date: 14 Oct 00 - 01:43 PM Hi Sins......Glad you agree with my opinion because I certainly agree with yours. After time, every one of our kids have come back. They don't apologize, nor are they expected to......If they've grown as human beings, that is all we expect, and all have.....but they're still "works in progress".......so am I for that matter. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: kendall Date: 14 Oct 00 - 01:38 PM Guest, I have no need or desire to flame you, so, you think I was mean to him? Where were you when he made that asshole remark to me? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: SINSULL Date: 14 Oct 00 - 01:19 PM I like Matthew and if he is gone from Mudcat, I will miss him. But I actually am glad to see that he is moving on to "real" people. That is where he belongs. He owes a lot to some of the people here and the Matthew I know appreciates it. That applies to any of you who risked hurting his feelings or bringing down the wrath of the 'Cat by pulling him up short when he got out of line. Kendall, the more Matt fights you, the more he shows his need to have your respect. Jon, you're right. He crossed the line more than once. I remember a young man whose anger took the form of destroying instruments or tossing them in the sea. Matt needs to show it differently. Neither is appropriate. Please don't take this as criticism. I agree with your take on the "shite" crack - it was unnecessarily cruel. My point is that young men use anger against the things and people they love most. Clinton, I would love to hear SandyToes' take on this. She's put up with a "touchy" artist for years. Spaw, I believe you've got it right. Sometimes the only way a young man can walk away from security and take the next step is to turn on those he loves most and declare his independence. Mine came back three years later and was astonished to find his family waiting for him with open arms. Matt isn't gone for good. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Sorcha Date: 14 Oct 00 - 01:06 PM I just had an e mail from him, and he is not doing the suicide thing. There are other things wrong, but not that, so those of us who care can give a sigh of relief. Those of you who don't can go on about your business. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: GUEST,Name Withheld Date: 14 Oct 00 - 01:03 PM I'm very worried about Matt/Mbo. For several weeks, he has frequently repeated that "Now That I've Taken My Life" is his favorite song. I hope that he was not dropping clues. I think that Kendall has been very mean to him and I hope that he hasn't gone over the edge. I know that I'll be flamed for posting as a guest. I don't care. I needed to say this and don't need the judgemental flames of Kendall and his friends coming down on me.
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: wysiwyg Date: 14 Oct 00 - 12:43 PM I SO DUMB. DUBBLE-DUH! Me Red Cross AND pastor's wife, it only occurs to me NOW to call Father TOM!!!!! (I'm still smarter than you though!!) These things can take time. I'll let you know! LOL!!! I so DUMB!!! ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Metchosin Date: 14 Oct 00 - 12:28 PM Well my Shooglenifty friend, you've created quite a stir...... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Clinton Hammond2 Date: 14 Oct 00 - 12:28 PM LOL!!!! This place just gets funnier and funnier... He even came back in to make sure we knew where his 'message' lyrics came from!! LOL!!!!!!!! I used to be like that too... when I was 14.... LOL!!!!!! *pauses to wipe away laughter tears* This place is priceless... Catters fall all over themselves better than Jackie Chan!! LOL!!! Film at 11... <-: |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: wysiwyg Date: 14 Oct 00 - 12:06 PM I only have the school number. ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Mooh Date: 14 Oct 00 - 11:50 AM Oh brother, here we go again. Yeah, Mbo adds to the wonderful world of Mudcat. So do lots of others. But for goodness sake let's keep our perspective. Gone or not, he's the boy who cried wolf if there ever was one. To swipe Soph's metaphor/analogy, he's being paper-trained at our collective expense. I just wish that he'd curb the crap postings and keep adding worthy postings because it's getting to the point where I avoid reading him if there's even a wiff of his bs. Thanks Soph, for the laugh. Oh yeah, and Mbo, assuming you're reading this, are you coming back next week or what? Mooh (using an Oasis disc as a coaster). |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Troll Date: 14 Oct 00 - 11:46 AM Thanks GUEST. So we didn't get ALL the words. troll |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: GUEST Date: 14 Oct 00 - 11:34 AM click |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: kendall Date: 14 Oct 00 - 10:30 AM Sophocleese you made me laugh right out lous for the first time today...thanks. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: alison Date: 14 Oct 00 - 09:48 AM Mbo, there are a lot of people here who care about you, and have offered you help and advice many times .... sure they don't all share your taste in music.... but it'd be a dull place if we all agreed with each other all of the time.... your song above is offensive, and comes across as a kick in the teeth to any of the people who have tried to help..... this isn't the first time you've said you were leaving and received all the "don't go" messages.... it's wearing very thin.... as is the sulking in hearme....time to grow up... and try to give back even a little of the respect that others have tried to give you..... slainte alison |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: sophocleese Date: 14 Oct 00 - 09:35 AM This posting does not sound like the work of a sensitive, intelligent individual. It sounds bratty, whiney, self-centered and perhaps troubled. I think the earlier description of it as passive-aggressive behaviour seems suitable. He may have talent and I hope he grows up enough to use it with wit and empathy. But mostly I think he's still a puppy. Puppies can be cute and affectionate but they also need to be trained not to chew on the furniture or shit in the house. I have hopes that Mbo will turn into a decent dog and maybe the mixed bag of postings here will help. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: kendall Date: 14 Oct 00 - 08:30 AM Actually, I dont much give a damn what some snot nosed teen age philosopher thinks of my music.And furthermore, he wasnt always compassionate either. When I told you all that I had to have an operation on my throat, and was quite worried about it, Mbo's only comment was "Ask what Gordon Bok would do." That didnt sound like compassion to me, it sounded like more of his compulsive posting. Someone called him MMMEEEbo. Right on.If he found another sand box to play in, thats ok by me. Now..flame if you must, but STAND FROM UNDER if you do. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: wysiwyg Date: 14 Oct 00 - 01:25 AM Sorch, if you have school and home numbers, please leave them in my PM box, they are at my office and I ain't. I will follow up on the other angle tomorrow. ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Sorcha Date: 14 Oct 00 - 01:12 AM PLEASE DO!! And I will, also, tomorrow morning. Too late tonight to disturb his folks. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: wysiwyg Date: 14 Oct 00 - 01:09 AM Well I was hoping that this was just a way of his leaving as Mbo and coming back in as Matthew, but so far I don't see him thus. Maybe it is just that he went home for the weekend, and that he didn't realize how the post would sound. I'll try to call him over the weekend. There may be another factor here I can tap into as well. ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: bbelle Date: 14 Oct 00 - 12:37 AM I am amazed at the lack of compassion for this "child." I have witnessed his show of compassion for others more than a few times on this forum. Matthew came into the mudcat because of his love for music, our kind of music. So, he is much younger and his tastes have a more modern edge, he's exposed a few of us to good music that we, otherwise, might not have heard. He has been flamed by people using aliases and even threatened personally, to the point that he was afraid to use his name on the forum. He has been treated meanly by some people and accused of "hogging" the microphone on HearMe. I've been on HearMe with him and never evidenced this. What I did see was him taking up slack when everyone else was trying to make up their minds whether or not to sing. This young man is intelligent, and sensitive, and talented, and for adults to treat him like this is a sin. So Guest,lone haranguer and Guest,Rose ... train your little insect antennae on someone else. Please feel free to flame me ... jenny |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: catspaw49 Date: 14 Oct 00 - 12:11 AM Yeah, well, whatever it is, we're all mucking about with it a lot more than he is or is even necessary. AMF and Catcha' Later....... Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Jeri Date: 14 Oct 00 - 12:07 AM So maybe Mbo just went home and mooned us on his way out the door? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Sorcha Date: 13 Oct 00 - 11:55 PM and spaw, LADY is probably the least of the nasty things I have ever been called. Now, my friends new Briard, Lindy, IS a Lady and she is only 3.
Jon, not making light of your post/opinion, and in some ways I agree. I just hope you are right, and that he is OK. (My Corgi girl, Annie, is NOT a Lady, doesn't claim to be, and never will be. She is a Bitch, First Class. Deserves to live in my house.) LOL! *BG* Joke people, joke. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Jon Freeman Date: 13 Oct 00 - 11:50 PM Naemanson, my objective was to state my opinion clearly, not to change minds and, as you suggested, this was achieved. I am content :-) Jon |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Sorcha Date: 13 Oct 00 - 11:47 PM Ya REALLY wanna know? OK, brace yerselfs--------49 last Wednesday. Ancient. Older than dirt. Australia. Falling apart. And, sadly, it was just "yesterday".......... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: catspaw49 Date: 13 Oct 00 - 11:43 PM Actually, a gentleman never asks a LADY her age......So how old are you Sorcha? Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Troll Date: 13 Oct 00 - 11:41 PM SPAAAAW! A gentleman never reminds a lady of her age.
oh yeah. a gentleman. right. troll ***BG*** |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: JamesJim Date: 13 Oct 00 - 11:40 PM Goodbye my little sugar darlin' Goodbye my little sugar darrrrlin' Goodbye my little sugar darlin' Never gonna see me anymore! (At least he said goodbye). Jim |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: catspaw49 Date: 13 Oct 00 - 11:32 PM YES Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Sorcha Date: 13 Oct 00 - 11:29 PM Yesterday, when I was young...........can it really have been such a very long time ago? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: katlaughing Date: 13 Oct 00 - 11:27 PM In another thread, he posted that this weekend is homecoming and sounded excited about it. I hope he is out there having fun. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Naemanson Date: 13 Oct 00 - 11:24 PM Matt has some growing up to do but then most of us did at that age. I joined the Navy at 18 and got to see the world and experience people up close and personal. At his age while riding the grey funnel line I toured Plymouth, Edinburgh, Bergen, Amsterdam, and Bremerhaven. He needs to do something similar. Hopefully he's doing that right now. Whatever he's doing I, for one, wish him well. Sure he's touchy and short tempered, a little self centered. But how many of you could face the man with a rock in your hand? (i.e., let he who is without sin cast the first stone.) So far I have described almost any other human being. We all fit that description to some degree. You have to remember all the posts where people have described him as being bighearted and kind. Think of the things he has said that made you think and feel. Please don't focus only on those parts of Matt that pissed you off. Troll, you are right. People come and people go. If Matt is done with us then he is gone. I'd like him to think he can come back any time and be welcome. Jon, you have a right to your opinion and have clearly stated it. But is your opinion going to change any of us and our opinions? We are only humans. We cannot please everyone all the time. If we restrict ourselves to only saying the things that we know will not rile other people we are betraying ourselves and the people around us. The difference between us old codgers and Matt and his generation is that we are old enough to know how to do that gently. They still have to learn that lesson. Running up against our more short tempered members is hopefully teaching them that lesson. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: katlaughing Date: 13 Oct 00 - 11:14 PM I think you are right, Spaw. It is also hard for a kid to say goodbye sometimes, so they will pick a fight, piss everyone off, then leave in a huff. As I am sure some would welcome Gargoyle back and as Michael K. has come back, I would hope we would be open to Mbo's return, too. Nothing he has ever done, no matter how obnoxious, holds a candle to some of their past antics. kat |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Lonesome EJ Date: 13 Oct 00 - 11:14 PM Reminds me of the time I transcribed the M*A*S*H theme song...
The game of life is hard to play
Suicide is painless I inadvertantly left this on the kitchen table,and my Mom found it and was in panic thinking I'd left it as a suicide note.She was relieved to find me asleep in my room and told me in the morning "I'd have hated it if you'd killed yourself,especially leavin' a crappy note like that behind." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Jeri Date: 13 Oct 00 - 11:13 PM Kendall, festival info is in the What's On thread. The festival has a web page, with an event schedule. About Mbo, if he's gone, I sincerely hope he's found something he likes better. He hasn't seemed happy here for a while, judging by his comments about the sucky nature of folk music and folkies, and I think he only hung around as long as he did because he made some friends here. He was cut a huge amount of slack when he said those things. I honestly hope he's found something closer to what he wants, and I hope he stays in touch with the friends he's made here. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: GUEST,Rose Date: 13 Oct 00 - 11:04 PM Oh ferchristsake. this isn't the first time Mbo has checked out and it may very well not be the last. not the first temper tamtrum throw here, definately won't be the last. not the first passive aggressive attempt at sucking other folks in (poor "misunderstood" guy). that has happened on a regular basis and is getting fairly boring. Jon F. caught on a long time ago. say whatcha mean - mean whatcha say. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Sorcha Date: 13 Oct 00 - 10:30 PM spaw, I hope and pray that is all it is............sounded like a cry in the wilderness to both Kate and I, and she is "closer" to his "place"? than most of us are. She is scared for her friend Matt. So am I. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Troll Date: 13 Oct 00 - 10:17 PM If he's gone, he's gone. If not ,not. People come and people go. Some do it with grace and style and some like spoiled children and some simply disappear for no apparent reason. The sun will come up in the morning regardless of what we do, so why not just accept what is. If I can't change it, I don't worry about it. troll |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: catspaw49 Date: 13 Oct 00 - 10:10 PM Hey Gang......We have all, especially me and a few others, been pushing hard on him to get the hell out into the 3D world. Finally, thanks to a CYS group at college and a Father Tom, he has gone on a few outtings and had a few nights with a group his own age who like much of what he likes and appreciate his talent. When we found out we encouraged it and many expressed how happy we were to see him experience real 3D life. If he's leaving completely or for awhile, this method is very natural. First, its natural to rebel and I'm glad he has that piece of normalcy in him. Then there is the same thing we saw with a lot of our foster kids. When it was time (for whatever reason) to move on, be it back home or on their own as adults,a strange thing occurred almost everytime and Karen and I came to expect it and even use it. It is more apt to happen when the person is insecure and the move to something else is a bit (or a lot) scary. They could not admit it was scary or that they feared the unknown....the future had to be GREAT!!! How do you make the unknown future great? Very simple....You make the present out to be the absolute PITS!!! Then the future is much brighter. I watched it happen repeatedly. Matt may still not understand that we didn't hate his music and that some of us are rock fans too....There is much he still does not understand. But he is out learning, spreading his wings......and if he has the crash or two, he needs to know that no matter what we are here. We all need to understand where he's coming from at this point.....and he is still socially a novice and has much emotional growth to go. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Jon Freeman Date: 13 Oct 00 - 10:08 PM MMario, with respect, I think that the question should be "Why does Mbo not cut slack for others?" Jon |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: MMario Date: 13 Oct 00 - 10:03 PM The original post is a (partial) set of lyrics by Oasis. I'm not sure why Matt posted them, but he's taken a lot of flak from others here at various times, so why not cut him a bit of slack? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Bill D Date: 13 Oct 00 - 09:52 PM after THAT post/poem/song, it had BETTER be goodbye...Gargoyle was easier to cope with than this! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Sorcha Date: 13 Oct 00 - 09:52 PM I don't know, davecoje. If I am reading this correctly, I think I am angry, and that my feelings are hurt, but I am withholding judgement for a few days. I, like Jon, dislike having my music called "shite" from someone I thought was a friend. I can't help but wonder just what is going on here. I hope, that as kendall says, he is just being theatrical. I shudder to think--just what is he saying "goodbye" to? I must say, I am a little concerned. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Oversoul Date: 13 Oct 00 - 09:42 PM Tempest in a "D" cup. Al Gore is behind this. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Jon Freeman Date: 13 Oct 00 - 09:05 PM Mbo, I assume you are being serious here and at the risk of the wrath of other 'catters, I will be too. I find your words offensive. I think that a number of people have bent over backwards to help you and in their own ways have tried to offer their hand of frienship to you. I don't know what others have put up with but my latest reward from you has been to be more or less completely ignored by you in Hearme and I remember a recent night where you didn't even manage the common courtesy to say hello to anyone because you were in one of your sulks. I try to understand you but you have to face up to the fact that the world does not revolve around "MEEEEEEEEbo". Please just grow up, get a life and join in with those of us who try to welcome you even if our view points may be different. We all have those differences and most of us can agree to disagree and still stay friends. Jon ( who is only posting here rather than PM because of Mbo's "I think your music's shite...") |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: kendall Date: 13 Oct 00 - 04:33 PM Is this a challenge Jeri? ok I dont have the details on this festival. Got some details? Mbo will be back...he's just being theatrical... again. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Clinton Hammond2 Date: 13 Oct 00 - 04:22 PM LOL!!! This place is a gas!! You people make the Marx Brothers look like straight men!
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Irish sergeant Date: 13 Oct 00 - 04:17 PM Mbo: Hopefully you're not leaving this riotous little band for good. However, no matter your choice, go with your head up knowing that you have friends here who wish you well in all your endeavours. Kindest reguards, Neil |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Jeri Date: 13 Oct 00 - 03:07 PM Kendall, festival on Saturday too. Concert Sat night. (I know, I know - you got sumthin' to do. Maybe get the old binoculars out and going leaf-peeper watching..."Ooh look - there's a double-breasted nuthatch with Mass plates.") |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: GUEST,Lena Date: 13 Oct 00 - 02:59 PM there we go.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: kendall Date: 13 Oct 00 - 02:55 PM as a matter of fact, I would like to go to Portsmouth, but, I'm commited to be at the Country Music awards show.Thats on Sunday all afternoon. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: GUEST,the lone haranger Date: 13 Oct 00 - 02:53 PM advice from a 21 year old? hehehe thats funny! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: GUEST,Lena who's impressed Date: 13 Oct 00 - 02:43 PM Now,don't tell me this is the first time I'm on on the 'cat and Miribo' is not there!!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: GUEST,Lena who still can't log in Date: 13 Oct 00 - 02:15 PM god.I need him here right now!!!Matt,i have my first twemty-one-years-old-sleepless-night right now and I need some expert advise to handle it!!!Darling come back!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Naemanson Date: 13 Oct 00 - 02:11 PM You're right Kendall but he adds a lot to this place. I know some don't care for his musical tastes but that just adds spice to the mix. BTW, Kendall, are you going to the Portsmouth thing this weekend? I'm headed down there on Sunday with my daughter and expect to meet some 'catters there. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: kendall Date: 13 Oct 00 - 01:26 PM Leave him be, he knows what he wants. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: SINSULL Date: 13 Oct 00 - 01:08 PM Damn! He graduated from Meebs to Matt and now he's too good for us. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: wysiwyg Date: 13 Oct 00 - 12:50 PM I can dig up a phone number over the weekend if we don't hear something. ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Mrrzy Date: 13 Oct 00 - 12:42 PM As long as he comes back! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: wysiwyg Date: 13 Oct 00 - 12:38 PM Well he does go home each weekend... ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: GUEST,Fibula Mattock Date: 13 Oct 00 - 12:27 PM Yeah, a "goodbye for the weekend" is okay.... and the words are indeed fitting... :o) but come back soon |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Naemanson Date: 13 Oct 00 - 12:26 PM What are you saying here, Matt? I hope it isn't the message I'm reading. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: GUEST,Fibula Mattock Date: 13 Oct 00 - 12:19 PM Are you borrowing the emotions of Oasis for personal expression here, Matt? Cool. |
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Subject: Goodbye From: Mbo Date: 13 Oct 00 - 12:13 PM There's no need for you to say you're sorry Goodbye, I'm going home I don't care no more, so don't you worry Goodbye, I'm going home I hate the way that even though you know you're wrong You say you're right I hate the books you read and all your friends Your music's shite-- It keeps me up all night There's no need for you to say you're sorry Goodbye, I'm going home I don't care no more, so don't you worry Goodbye I'm going home I hate the way that you are so sarcastic And you're not very bright You think that everything you've done's fantastic Your music's shite-- It keeps me up all night There's no need for you to say you're sorry Goodbye, I'm going home I don't care no more, so don't you worry Goodbye I'm going Home |