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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Jon Freeman Date: 13 Oct 00 - 11:50 PM Naemanson, my objective was to state my opinion clearly, not to change minds and, as you suggested, this was achieved. I am content :-) Jon |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Sorcha Date: 13 Oct 00 - 11:47 PM Ya REALLY wanna know? OK, brace yerselfs--------49 last Wednesday. Ancient. Older than dirt. Australia. Falling apart. And, sadly, it was just "yesterday".......... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: catspaw49 Date: 13 Oct 00 - 11:43 PM Actually, a gentleman never asks a LADY her age......So how old are you Sorcha? Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Troll Date: 13 Oct 00 - 11:41 PM SPAAAAW! A gentleman never reminds a lady of her age.
oh yeah. a gentleman. right. troll ***BG*** |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: JamesJim Date: 13 Oct 00 - 11:40 PM Goodbye my little sugar darlin' Goodbye my little sugar darrrrlin' Goodbye my little sugar darlin' Never gonna see me anymore! (At least he said goodbye). Jim |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: catspaw49 Date: 13 Oct 00 - 11:32 PM YES Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Sorcha Date: 13 Oct 00 - 11:29 PM Yesterday, when I was young...........can it really have been such a very long time ago? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: katlaughing Date: 13 Oct 00 - 11:27 PM In another thread, he posted that this weekend is homecoming and sounded excited about it. I hope he is out there having fun. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Naemanson Date: 13 Oct 00 - 11:24 PM Matt has some growing up to do but then most of us did at that age. I joined the Navy at 18 and got to see the world and experience people up close and personal. At his age while riding the grey funnel line I toured Plymouth, Edinburgh, Bergen, Amsterdam, and Bremerhaven. He needs to do something similar. Hopefully he's doing that right now. Whatever he's doing I, for one, wish him well. Sure he's touchy and short tempered, a little self centered. But how many of you could face the man with a rock in your hand? (i.e., let he who is without sin cast the first stone.) So far I have described almost any other human being. We all fit that description to some degree. You have to remember all the posts where people have described him as being bighearted and kind. Think of the things he has said that made you think and feel. Please don't focus only on those parts of Matt that pissed you off. Troll, you are right. People come and people go. If Matt is done with us then he is gone. I'd like him to think he can come back any time and be welcome. Jon, you have a right to your opinion and have clearly stated it. But is your opinion going to change any of us and our opinions? We are only humans. We cannot please everyone all the time. If we restrict ourselves to only saying the things that we know will not rile other people we are betraying ourselves and the people around us. The difference between us old codgers and Matt and his generation is that we are old enough to know how to do that gently. They still have to learn that lesson. Running up against our more short tempered members is hopefully teaching them that lesson. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: katlaughing Date: 13 Oct 00 - 11:14 PM I think you are right, Spaw. It is also hard for a kid to say goodbye sometimes, so they will pick a fight, piss everyone off, then leave in a huff. As I am sure some would welcome Gargoyle back and as Michael K. has come back, I would hope we would be open to Mbo's return, too. Nothing he has ever done, no matter how obnoxious, holds a candle to some of their past antics. kat |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Lonesome EJ Date: 13 Oct 00 - 11:14 PM Reminds me of the time I transcribed the M*A*S*H theme song...
The game of life is hard to play
Suicide is painless I inadvertantly left this on the kitchen table,and my Mom found it and was in panic thinking I'd left it as a suicide note.She was relieved to find me asleep in my room and told me in the morning "I'd have hated it if you'd killed yourself,especially leavin' a crappy note like that behind." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Jeri Date: 13 Oct 00 - 11:13 PM Kendall, festival info is in the What's On thread. The festival has a web page, with an event schedule. About Mbo, if he's gone, I sincerely hope he's found something he likes better. He hasn't seemed happy here for a while, judging by his comments about the sucky nature of folk music and folkies, and I think he only hung around as long as he did because he made some friends here. He was cut a huge amount of slack when he said those things. I honestly hope he's found something closer to what he wants, and I hope he stays in touch with the friends he's made here. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: GUEST,Rose Date: 13 Oct 00 - 11:04 PM Oh ferchristsake. this isn't the first time Mbo has checked out and it may very well not be the last. not the first temper tamtrum throw here, definately won't be the last. not the first passive aggressive attempt at sucking other folks in (poor "misunderstood" guy). that has happened on a regular basis and is getting fairly boring. Jon F. caught on a long time ago. say whatcha mean - mean whatcha say. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Sorcha Date: 13 Oct 00 - 10:30 PM spaw, I hope and pray that is all it is............sounded like a cry in the wilderness to both Kate and I, and she is "closer" to his "place"? than most of us are. She is scared for her friend Matt. So am I. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Troll Date: 13 Oct 00 - 10:17 PM If he's gone, he's gone. If not ,not. People come and people go. Some do it with grace and style and some like spoiled children and some simply disappear for no apparent reason. The sun will come up in the morning regardless of what we do, so why not just accept what is. If I can't change it, I don't worry about it. troll |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: catspaw49 Date: 13 Oct 00 - 10:10 PM Hey Gang......We have all, especially me and a few others, been pushing hard on him to get the hell out into the 3D world. Finally, thanks to a CYS group at college and a Father Tom, he has gone on a few outtings and had a few nights with a group his own age who like much of what he likes and appreciate his talent. When we found out we encouraged it and many expressed how happy we were to see him experience real 3D life. If he's leaving completely or for awhile, this method is very natural. First, its natural to rebel and I'm glad he has that piece of normalcy in him. Then there is the same thing we saw with a lot of our foster kids. When it was time (for whatever reason) to move on, be it back home or on their own as adults,a strange thing occurred almost everytime and Karen and I came to expect it and even use it. It is more apt to happen when the person is insecure and the move to something else is a bit (or a lot) scary. They could not admit it was scary or that they feared the unknown....the future had to be GREAT!!! How do you make the unknown future great? Very simple....You make the present out to be the absolute PITS!!! Then the future is much brighter. I watched it happen repeatedly. Matt may still not understand that we didn't hate his music and that some of us are rock fans too....There is much he still does not understand. But he is out learning, spreading his wings......and if he has the crash or two, he needs to know that no matter what we are here. We all need to understand where he's coming from at this point.....and he is still socially a novice and has much emotional growth to go. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Jon Freeman Date: 13 Oct 00 - 10:08 PM MMario, with respect, I think that the question should be "Why does Mbo not cut slack for others?" Jon |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: MMario Date: 13 Oct 00 - 10:03 PM The original post is a (partial) set of lyrics by Oasis. I'm not sure why Matt posted them, but he's taken a lot of flak from others here at various times, so why not cut him a bit of slack? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Bill D Date: 13 Oct 00 - 09:52 PM after THAT post/poem/song, it had BETTER be goodbye...Gargoyle was easier to cope with than this! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Sorcha Date: 13 Oct 00 - 09:52 PM I don't know, davecoje. If I am reading this correctly, I think I am angry, and that my feelings are hurt, but I am withholding judgement for a few days. I, like Jon, dislike having my music called "shite" from someone I thought was a friend. I can't help but wonder just what is going on here. I hope, that as kendall says, he is just being theatrical. I shudder to think--just what is he saying "goodbye" to? I must say, I am a little concerned. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Oversoul Date: 13 Oct 00 - 09:42 PM Tempest in a "D" cup. Al Gore is behind this. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Jon Freeman Date: 13 Oct 00 - 09:05 PM Mbo, I assume you are being serious here and at the risk of the wrath of other 'catters, I will be too. I find your words offensive. I think that a number of people have bent over backwards to help you and in their own ways have tried to offer their hand of frienship to you. I don't know what others have put up with but my latest reward from you has been to be more or less completely ignored by you in Hearme and I remember a recent night where you didn't even manage the common courtesy to say hello to anyone because you were in one of your sulks. I try to understand you but you have to face up to the fact that the world does not revolve around "MEEEEEEEEbo". Please just grow up, get a life and join in with those of us who try to welcome you even if our view points may be different. We all have those differences and most of us can agree to disagree and still stay friends. Jon ( who is only posting here rather than PM because of Mbo's "I think your music's shite...") |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: kendall Date: 13 Oct 00 - 04:33 PM Is this a challenge Jeri? ok I dont have the details on this festival. Got some details? Mbo will be back...he's just being theatrical... again. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Clinton Hammond2 Date: 13 Oct 00 - 04:22 PM LOL!!! This place is a gas!! You people make the Marx Brothers look like straight men!
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Irish sergeant Date: 13 Oct 00 - 04:17 PM Mbo: Hopefully you're not leaving this riotous little band for good. However, no matter your choice, go with your head up knowing that you have friends here who wish you well in all your endeavours. Kindest reguards, Neil |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Jeri Date: 13 Oct 00 - 03:07 PM Kendall, festival on Saturday too. Concert Sat night. (I know, I know - you got sumthin' to do. Maybe get the old binoculars out and going leaf-peeper watching..."Ooh look - there's a double-breasted nuthatch with Mass plates.") |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: GUEST,Lena Date: 13 Oct 00 - 02:59 PM there we go.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: kendall Date: 13 Oct 00 - 02:55 PM as a matter of fact, I would like to go to Portsmouth, but, I'm commited to be at the Country Music awards show.Thats on Sunday all afternoon. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: GUEST,the lone haranger Date: 13 Oct 00 - 02:53 PM advice from a 21 year old? hehehe thats funny! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: GUEST,Lena who's impressed Date: 13 Oct 00 - 02:43 PM Now,don't tell me this is the first time I'm on on the 'cat and Miribo' is not there!!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: GUEST,Lena who still can't log in Date: 13 Oct 00 - 02:15 PM god.I need him here right now!!!Matt,i have my first twemty-one-years-old-sleepless-night right now and I need some expert advise to handle it!!!Darling come back!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Naemanson Date: 13 Oct 00 - 02:11 PM You're right Kendall but he adds a lot to this place. I know some don't care for his musical tastes but that just adds spice to the mix. BTW, Kendall, are you going to the Portsmouth thing this weekend? I'm headed down there on Sunday with my daughter and expect to meet some 'catters there. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: kendall Date: 13 Oct 00 - 01:26 PM Leave him be, he knows what he wants. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: SINSULL Date: 13 Oct 00 - 01:08 PM Damn! He graduated from Meebs to Matt and now he's too good for us. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: wysiwyg Date: 13 Oct 00 - 12:50 PM I can dig up a phone number over the weekend if we don't hear something. ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Mrrzy Date: 13 Oct 00 - 12:42 PM As long as he comes back! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: wysiwyg Date: 13 Oct 00 - 12:38 PM Well he does go home each weekend... ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: GUEST,Fibula Mattock Date: 13 Oct 00 - 12:27 PM Yeah, a "goodbye for the weekend" is okay.... and the words are indeed fitting... :o) but come back soon |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Naemanson Date: 13 Oct 00 - 12:26 PM What are you saying here, Matt? I hope it isn't the message I'm reading. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: GUEST,Fibula Mattock Date: 13 Oct 00 - 12:19 PM Are you borrowing the emotions of Oasis for personal expression here, Matt? Cool. |
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Subject: Goodbye From: Mbo Date: 13 Oct 00 - 12:13 PM There's no need for you to say you're sorry Goodbye, I'm going home I don't care no more, so don't you worry Goodbye, I'm going home I hate the way that even though you know you're wrong You say you're right I hate the books you read and all your friends Your music's shite-- It keeps me up all night There's no need for you to say you're sorry Goodbye, I'm going home I don't care no more, so don't you worry Goodbye I'm going home I hate the way that you are so sarcastic And you're not very bright You think that everything you've done's fantastic Your music's shite-- It keeps me up all night There's no need for you to say you're sorry Goodbye, I'm going home I don't care no more, so don't you worry Goodbye I'm going Home |