YOUR Favorite Hymns Part 2

Subject: YOUR Favorite Hymns Part 2
From: Joe Offer
Date: 15 Oct 00 - 04:24 AM

This is part two of a thread Praise started to find music that will liven up her Episcopalian services, and I'm looking for stuff to liven up my Catholic liturgy.
Click here for links to lots of hymn sites.
-Joe Offer-

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Click HERE for Part 1 of the Hymn Thread.

Subject: RE: YOUR Favorite Hymns Part 2
From: Zebedee
Date: 15 Oct 00 - 04:59 AM

Sorry, click where??

Subject: RE: YOUR Favorite Hymns Part 2
From: Uncle Jaque
Date: 15 Oct 00 - 06:48 AM

Are U familiar with the Monks of the Weston (VT) Priory? I got one of their albums about 12 years ago, and really liked what they did - a nice contemporary blend of Gregorian chant and "Folk" traditions. I havn't heard from or about them in years, and not even sure if their music is available any more - but if you encounter it, do give a listen. They published books of the music to go with the albums, complete with guitar chords, and I have played some of their songs in our Baptist church services.

Subject: RE: YOUR Favorite Hymns Part 2
From: mrs_zezam
Date: 15 Oct 00 - 07:58 AM

Click HERE for Part 1 of the Hymn Thread.

Subject: RE: YOUR Favorite Hymns Part 2
From: wysiwyg
Date: 15 Oct 00 - 10:35 AM

Joe, maybe I had livened them up so much I am now looking for songs to settle back down with!

Ya wanna liven up yours? Send me a ticket!

I NEED A WINNEBAGO. PRAY ME A WINNEBAGO, GANG. Twelve years knowing I needed and would surely have a Winnebago, and it ain't here? Shouldaa asked the Cat long ago.

Oh, and funny-- I actually thought the hymn thread had petered out. When I know full well, How Can You Keep From SINGING????

Anyone having fun doing what's been posted? Using each other's ideas?

Anyone wanna start a thread to see how many active church musicians we have here, and what we do, or to see how many songleaders of any sort we have? Maybe if this thread settles into a dull roar sometime, huh? I'd love to know, but oops! Don't creep it into this thread! Oy! I accidently trolled for thread creeps!

Joe, whaddaya gonna do with me, always trouble? *Grin*Blush*Grin*

I cracked myself up.

~Susan

Subject: RE: YOUR Favorite Hymns Part 2
From: Amos
Date: 15 Oct 00 - 01:37 PM

Ol' Willie Nelson gets my vote as a favorite hymn.

Subject: RE: YOUR Favorite Hymns Part 2
From: wysiwyg
Date: 15 Oct 00 - 01:46 PM

Too spooky. At the same time this was posted, I was wondering who would start asking about hyrms. Trust Amos to come around it just then, from the other side.

Amos! Come on, you old curmudgeon, tell me YOUR favorite hymns. I may need them for Ernie. Or for private evening songtime with my new improved autoharp. I know you posted them a long time ago. So sue me, I forgot where. Don't make me come over there!

~S~

Subject: ADD: St. Catherine's Court
From: Hardiman the Fiddler
Date: 15 Oct 00 - 06:44 PM

As a carry over from the posting in the first thread, one of my current favorites is St. Catherine's Court. I've heard the tune many years ago now, and these words are by memory. If anyone has a more definitive link, I would appreciate it.

SAINT CATHERINE'S COURT

In our day of thanksgiving, one song let us offer
For the Saints who before us have found their reward
When the shadow of death fell upon them, we sorrowed
But now we rejoice that they rest in the Lord.

In the morning of life, and at noon and at even
He called them away from their labors below
But not till his love at the font and the altar
Had girt them in strength for the way they should go

Sing praise then for those who here sought and here found him,
Whose journeys are over, whose trials are passed
They believed in the Light and its glory surrounds them
Where clouds of earth's darkness are lifeted at last.

Hardiman (Greg) the Fiddler

Subject: RE: YOUR Favorite Hymns Part 2
From: wysiwyg
Date: 15 Oct 00 - 06:58 PM

sigh...

Subject: RE: YOUR Favorite Hymns Part 2
From: wysiwyg
Date: 15 Oct 00 - 08:53 PM

Did you all click the link Joe left in the first post of this thread????? It doesn't go to part one! Go see! Wow!!!

Hardiman found a bad xerox of a hand-copied version of St. Catherine's Court.

Tune, R. Strutt, 1848-1927
Words, W.H. Draper

Here is what should be the third verse:

These stones that have echoed their praises are holy
And dear is the ground where their feet once have trod;
Yet here they confessed they were strangers and pilgrims,
And still they were seeking the city of God.

Wow.

~S~

Subject: RE: YOUR Favorite Hymns Part 2
From: CBjames
Date: 15 Oct 00 - 09:23 PM

Atheist though I am, I always liked the song "Jerusalem" with words by William Blake. The tune is so fine that I even transcribed it once.

Church of England though it is, it does appear in some United Church if Canada hymnals. Whether it would sell in a Catholic service I couldn't guess.

But it's got a catchy tune.

jb

Subject: RE: YOUR Favorite Hymns Part 2
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 02:32 AM

Not exactly a hymn,but Bridge Over Troubled Waters has the same feel.Also,as a great sing-along, Michael Row the Boat Ashore.I also love the old ones,Farther Along,I Am a Pilgrim,Faith of our Fathers,And He Walks with Me,and Life is Like a Mountain Railroad (Life's Railway to Heaven).

Subject: RE: YOUR Favorite Hymns Part 2
From: Haruo
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 11:42 AM

I'm looking for an Advent/Christmas song text by one Benjamin Rhodes, whose first line is "My heart and voice I raise", and whose tune is St. Elizabeth, also know by the names Ascalon, Crusaders' Hymn, Schönster Herr Jesu and St. Elisabeth. Anybody have it out there? I've got the Esperanto version in my hymnal, but I've never seen the English (and would like to). Since I got the translation from a British source (Esperanta Himnaro, by the late Leonard Gentle) I think it may perhaps be more common on yonder side of the ocean stream.

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Several of you mentioned "How can I keep from singing" as a favorite. Since I just posted my Esperanto version of this Robert Lowry hymn in my online hymnal, I'm interested in finding out to what tune it is a favorite of yours. What do you sing it to? My hymnal gives Lowry's own tune, My Life Flows On, as the primary tune, and Sankey's Endless Song as an alternative. Any others?

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Burke, I still haven't finished analysing the Lyngham info you sent me; however, I did look through my 20+ hymnals here, all those that have tune name indexes, anyhow, and not one of them has Lyngham listed for anything. Which doesn't surprise me, but does sadden me.

Subject: RE: YOUR Favorite Hymns Part 2
From: Haruo
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 11:44 AM

I'm trying to figure out if the tune at A Little Ship is the same as "Malbrouck/Bear over mtn." or different, or if it is a bit like Seven Joys.
Liland

Subject: RE: YOUR Favorite Hymns Part 2
From: Haruo
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 04:56 PM

Sorry, the link to my version of "How can I keep from singing", where I would appreciate feedback concerning the choice of tunes, is http://www.geocities.com/cigneto/thctxt/l/lavivoflu1.html. The MIDI links are down below the lyrics of the song.

Liland

Subject: RE: YOUR Favorite Hymns Part 2
From: Burke
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 04:59 PM

Liland, It was Bradypus, not me who was talking about Lingham. But as soon as I saw Bradypus's description, I knew that I know the tune & it turns out I have 2 & possibly 3 printed versions of it. I just love singing it.

Thomas Jarman's original composition was an English fuging tune published in his Sacred Music ca. 1803. It has also appeared in the US in de-fuged versions. The recording on Cyberhymnal & Bradypus' description retain the fuge & that may be why you can't make it fit.

It's also been published under the names Nativity and Desert. It's in the 1991 edition of the Sacred Harp with the tune name of Nativity, Jarman's original title for the tune. While the SH has lots of fuging tunes, the person who submitted it was only familiar with a defuged version so that's how it got into the Sacred Harp. That defuged version was in Joseph Funk's Harmonia Sacra.

In "An American Christmas Harp" (the source for most of my information) Lingham it printed with the fuge & is provided with the words:
But let us join the cheerful song,
With joy and pious mirth,
with joy and pious mithn,
And all with grateful heart and voice
Proclaim the Saviour's Birth (repeat phrase and individual as necessary to fit the part)

The compiler of the Christmas Harp found her arrangement in The American Church Harp, 1856. It also reported to be in the hymnal of The Reformed Presbyterian Church

I'd be glad to send the Sacred Harp & Christmas Harp versions to you. I have the newest ed. of Harmonia Sacra at home so I may have another version there as well.

Subject: RE: YOUR Favorite Hymns Part 2
From: Haruo
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 05:06 PM

Sorry about confusing you and Bradypus. Thanks to both of you for help on this topic
I would indeed be grateful if you could send me a photocopy of both versions (SH & CH). The snailmail address is

Liland B. Ros'
204 N 39th St
Seattle, WA 98103
États-Unis d'Amérique

Or if you have a scanner, you can scan them and send them to me as JPEGs or whatever by email.

Liland

Subject: RE: YOUR Favorite Hymns Part 2
From: Burke
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 05:09 PM

Liland, I'm not going to try to retranslate your version, but was your source for the English Cyberhymnal or Mudcat? There are some small, but significant differences. Cyberhymnal's are the original.

I'm only really familiar with Lowry's tune & can't really imagine using any other tune.

Subject: RE: YOUR Favorite Hymns Part 2
From: Haruo
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 05:22 PM

I'm not sure what my main source was (but I'm sure it was neither Cyberhymnal nor Mudcat); possibly Chalice Hymnal?
For the English text I translated from, that is; the MIDIs are both Cyberhymnal in origin, I think.

Subject: RE: YOUR Favorite Hymns Part 2
From: Haruo
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 05:23 PM

I'm not sure what my main source was (but I'm sure it was neither Cyberhymnal nor Mudcat); possibly Chalice Hymnal?
For the English text I translated from, that is; the MIDIs are both Cyberhymnal in origin, I think.

Subject: RE: YOUR Favorite Hymns Part 2
From: Haruo
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 05:24 PM

I'm not sure what my main source was (but I'm sure it was neither Cyberhymnal nor Mudcat); possibly Chalice Hymnal?
For the English text I translated from, that is; the MIDIs are both Cyberhymnal in origin, I think.

Liland

PS: Incidentally, if you like Lowry type stuff, I think his Chorus of Fire (it's in The Cyber Hymnal) is really neat.

Subject: RE: YOUR Favorite Hymns Part 2
From: Haruo
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 05:25 PM

Yikes! Sorry! - Liland

Subject: RE: YOUR Favorite Hymns Part 2
From: Penny S.
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 07:17 PM

Thine be the Glory, which my mother had at her funeral, and my father learned in Belgium during a little altercation over half a century back, in French. And Dear Lord and Father of Mankind.

Penny

Subject: RE: YOUR Favorite Hymns Part 2
From: Haruo
Date: 18 Oct 00 - 11:12 AM

Here are links to The Cyber Hymnal's versions of some of my favorite less well known hymns; the first two were added to TCH at my suggestion, the third I first saw there.

His Voice as the Sound of the Dulcimer Sweet ("Samanthra" in Walker's Southern Harmony
Come Away to the Skies ("Middlebury" in Walker's Southern Harmony; also i.a. in the Episcopal Hymnal 1982)
Chorus of Fire ("O golden hereafter"; Robert Lowry)

Liland

Subject: RE: YOUR Favorite Hymns Part 2
From: Burke
Date: 18 Oct 00 - 08:25 PM

Hardiman, the Anglical Online Hymnal has St. Catherine's Court.

Liland, the reason I asked about your source for How can I keep from singing is that in verse 2 the original has the line: "Since Christ is Lord of heaven and earth, How can I keep from singing?" while the Mudcat version has "Since love is lord of Heaven and earth How can I keep from singing?"

The original also has a entirely different 3rd verse. From a folk point of view I have no objection to the substitutions, but I do think that a hymnal should keep Christ in the hymn.

Here's the Cyberhymnal version.

Subject: RE: YOUR Favorite Hymns Part 2
From: Sorcha
Date: 18 Oct 00 - 08:34 PM

I forgot "Count Your Many Blessings" (name them one by one)

Subject: RE: YOUR Favorite Hymns Part 2
From: Haruo
Date: 23 Oct 00 - 01:33 PM

Burke, I still haven't figured out exactly what my source was for "How can I keep from singing"; I'm still leaning towards Chalice Hymnal. I wouldn't want to be dogmatic about making Christ explicit. "Come, O thou traveller unknown", for example, would be far less effective both as hymnody and as theology if it had more Christ and less Love. But I think if it's a Christian hymn, in such place, Love should be capitalized.

Bradypus, et al., you may be interested to learnâ€"I was—that at the Baptist Men's Conference I attended this past weekend, John Sinkevich, our pianist/songleader, was well acquainted with the use of Lyngham for "O for a thousand tongues"; indeed, he led us in a verse of it, and he heads an amateur, occasional men's chorus (at the Everett Union Gospel Mission) which regularly sings it to that tune. And it's interesting (from an oral-tradition viewpoint) that 90% of the singing around the piano this weekend was sans textes, from memory. Not exactly oral tradition, as many of us had originally learned the texts from books, but still not wholly divorced from it.

Lilan

Subject: ADD: Stars In My Crown
From: GUEST,elaine
Date: 23 Oct 00 - 02:36 PM

My favourite is a baptist hymn called "Stars in my crown" (no. 787, Baptist Sankey hymnal):

STARS IN MY CROWN

I am thinking today of that beautiful land
I shall reach when the sun goes down
When through wonderful grace by my Saviour I stand
Will there be any stars in my crown?

Chorus
Will there be any stars in my crown
When at evening the sun goes down
When I wake with the blest in the mansions of rest
Will there be any stars in my crown?

In the strength of the Lord let me labour and pray,
Shall I watch as a winner of souls
That bright stars may be mine in the glorious day
When His praise like the sea billow rolls?

Chorus

O what joy will there be when His face I behold
And with gems at His feet to lay down
It would sweeten my bliss in the City of gold
Should there be any stars in my crown?

Chorus

Subject: RE: YOUR Favorite Hymns Part 2
From: Ebbie
Date: 24 Oct 00 - 01:59 AM

One of my favorites is When They Ring Those Golden Bells.

Ebbie

Subject: RE: YOUR Favorite Hymns Part 2
From: wysiwyg
Date: 24 Oct 00 - 06:46 AM

I have not been able to spend much time yet plumbing the depths and soaring the heights these posts have spanned. Finishing up my job and trying to find out why the modem can only go 1,200 bps instead of the 56,000 it's rated for... and posting where I know I am needed or where I need to be, it's been like triage. But knowing this thread has continued and waits for me to explore it means more to me than I can say-- and as you know, I'm not so bad at saying stuff either, so imagine how much more than that this means. Thank you so much....

~Susan

Subject: RE: YOUR Favorite Hymns Part 2
From: GUEST,Bill Foster
Date: 24 Oct 00 - 08:32 AM

Not too long ago I was in a local production of Smoke On The Mountain, and I re-discovered a great old song: *I Wouldn't Take Nothing For My Journey Now*. If anyone has complete lyrics, I'd purely love to have them.

Subject: RE: YOUR Favorite Hymns Part 2
From: SINSULL
Date: 24 Oct 00 - 09:26 AM

Frank Patterson produced a CD and TV Special called "Faith of our Fathers" featuring hymns that were traditionally song in Irish parishes in the 50s and 60s. One of my favorites: "Bring Flowers of the Fairest" which was sung at the May crowning ceremony. I have the Patterson tape somewhere, if you are interested Joe.

Subject: RE: YOUR Favorite Hymns Part 2
From: wysiwyg
Date: 24 Oct 00 - 10:18 AM

Bill Foster--

It's been done on the Gaither Homecoming Hour on cable, so I am sure it is in a Gaither songbook. I think the Happy Goodman Family does it. I can check further if no one turns it up. But this week is nuts-- so if you will not be here regularly to check this thread, please e-mail me. If you find it, also, would you post it here?

~Susan

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Subject: RE: Come, Thou Fount of Every Blessing
From: GUEST,catyronwode
Date: 13 Mar 18 - 06:22 PM

I am returning to the original topic of the part 1 of this thread -- "Come, Thou Fount of Every Blessing" by Robert Robinson (1758),

I have found a fragment of it embedded in a gospel song by the Norfleet Brothers, which is remarkable, to my mind. Here is the relevant information.

The Norfleet Brothers have inserted this verse in two parts, in a well-known African-American (Baptist) Gospel song variously known as "None But the Righteous," "Take Me to the Water' and "Baptize Me". Their version is titled "None But the Righteous."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P87a5l4dqHk

Their intro and verse 3 constitute a broken floating verse from
"Come, Thou Fount of Every Blessing" by Robert Robinson (1758),
originally sung as follows:

Prone to wander, Lord, I feel it
Prone to leave the God I love
Here’s my heart, O take and seal it,
Seal it for Thy courts above.

Note that "leave" in the original has become "serve" in the Norfleet's intro
and "for thy courts" has become "from the courts" intheir verse 3.

They sing it as two extended couplets:

Prone to wander, Lord, I feel it
Prone to serve the God I love

Well, right here is my heart
(my heart, my heart)
Well, take and seal it
(seal it, seal it)
Oh, now, seal it from the
(from the, from the)
From the courts above
(the courts above)

I have the entirety of their version transcribed and will find a "Baptize Me" / "None But the Righteous" thread somewhere around here in which to post the text.

Compare:
http://cyberhymnal.org/htm/c/o/comethou.htm

Enjoy the wonderful word of variant stanzas!

Subject: RE: YOUR Favorite Hymns Part 2
From: banjoman
Date: 14 Mar 18 - 06:08 AM

Loads of favourites, but probably " In Christ alone" followed by "Colours of day"

Subject: RE: YOUR Favorite Hymns Part 2
From: mayomick
Date: 15 Mar 18 - 01:06 PM

Coming up to Good Friday , what's that one about" wash me in water gushing from thy side"?I always liked that line and another line from the same Catholic hymn "deep in thy wound Lord hide and shelter me" .

Subject: RE: YOUR Favorite Hymns Part 2
From: mayomick
Date: 15 Mar 18 - 01:21 PM

Just checked ; it’s called "Soul of My Saviour". By miracle of modern technology they have a sing-along ,karaoke version on youtube .


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlRqv5vdQtY

Subject: RE: YOUR Favorite Hymns Part 2
From: GUEST,Pete from seven stars link
Date: 15 Mar 18 - 05:56 PM

Colours of day , was written and sung by the folk group parchment , originally trinity folk . They just made it in the lower reaches of the pop charts I think, and had a couple of nice albums

Subject: RE: YOUR Favorite Hymns Part 2
From: Hrothgar
Date: 16 Mar 18 - 07:00 AM

Is this the one, Mayomick?

1 Soul of my Saviour, sanctify my breast,
Body of Christ, be thou my saving guest,
Blood of my Saviour, bathe me in thy tide,
Wash me with water flowing from thy side.

2 Strength and protection may thy Passion be,
O blessèd Jesu, hear and answer me;
Deep in thy wounds, Lord, hide and shelter me,
So shall I never, never part from thee.

3 Guard and defend me from the foe malign,
In death's dread moments make me only thine;
Call me and bid me come to thee on high
Where I may praise thee with thy saints for ay.

Now that you've reminded me of it, I might see if I can get somebody to lead it in the hymn singing session at the National this Easter.

Subject: RE: YOUR Favorite Hymns Part 2
From: topical tom
Date: 16 Oct 18 - 12:38 PM

This is one of my favorite old hymhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH72dgNSAsw
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