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Earl Dandy 27 Aug 97 - 04:28 PM
Jim Dixon 15 Jan 11 - 08:45 PM
GUEST,mg 15 Jan 11 - 09:13 PM
Q (Frank Staplin) 15 Jan 11 - 09:32 PM
Jim Dixon 15 Jan 11 - 10:00 PM
Taconicus 15 Jan 11 - 11:25 PM
janemick 16 Jan 11 - 07:19 AM
GUEST,Doug Saum 16 Jan 11 - 01:13 PM
Q (Frank Staplin) 16 Jan 11 - 02:47 PM
Jim Dixon 21 Jan 11 - 06:41 PM
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Subject: America, we stand against you - Lyrics
From: Earl Dandy
Date: 27 Aug 97 - 04:28 PM

Heard this a few years ago, live. Anyone got lyrics and tune?


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Subject: Lyr Add: AMERICA, WE STAND AGAINST YOU
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 15 Jan 11 - 08:45 PM

I found these lyrics in a PDF file called "Songs We Sing When We're Together—Sometimes," Vancouver Morris Men, 2006

It was attributed to "Miles Woolton." I suppose that should be Miles Wootton, of Brighton, England.


AMERICA, WE STAND AGAINST YOU

For chewing gum, cola, brunchburgers and rye,
  America, we stand against you.
Sinatra, Chicago and blueberry pie,
  America, we stand against you.
For the death of the buffalo, birth of the blues,
For F-111's, the bases they choose,
For Honest John, Minuteman, Trident and Cruise,
  America, we stand against you.

For Disneyland, Dumbo, Sue Ellen, JR,
  America, we stand against you.
For Rambo, Bing Crosby, the Cadillac car,
  America, we stand against you.
For your space-age technology, stone-age finesse,
For getting us all in one hell of a mess,
With your "God bless America, God damn the rest,"
  America, we stand against you.

For Nixon and Kissinger, bombs in Vietnam,
  America, we stand against you.
For that sly redneck huckster they call Uncle Sam,
  America, we stand against you.
For the sake of the thousands of children who died,
For presidents, senators, generals who lied,
With your Mickey-Mouse morals, Neanderthal pride,
  America, we stand against you.

For show biz and all of the razzmatazz,
  America, we stand against you.
For Uncle Tom's Cabin, chain gangs, Alcatraz,
  America, we stand against you.
For Las Vegas and crap and amusement arcades,
Ku Klux Klan, Billy Graham and Moral Crusade,
For Ronnie before his sweet memory fades,
  America, we stand against you.


[Although I sympathize with the sentiment, I am mystified as to why some items are included in the list. What's not to like about blueberry pie? Why "birth of the blues"? What the heck is a brunchburger? Are you sure amusement arcades began in the US? I don't know what "Moral Crusade" (capitalized) refers to.]


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: America, We Stand Against You
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 15 Jan 11 - 09:13 PM

certainly a hateful song. Sing it if you like it though. mg


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: America, We Stand Against You
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 15 Jan 11 - 09:32 PM

One of those songs that lists selected 'short-comings' of a person, people or nation.

Serves no purpose except to make the inferior feel superior.
(Hey, I like the sound of that meaningless sentence!)

Blackpool's amusement piers date back to mid-19th C. or earlier, Brighton also famous for the Victorian-age pier. Coney island perhaps modeled after them.

Long live blueberry pie (and other blues including the kind one sings).

I was temporarily defeated by the term brunchburger, but found that one Paula Dean seemingly was the creator.
It is a bacon cheeseburger, topped with a fried egg, between halves of a glazed doughnut. NPR article, August 16, 2010.
There seem to be several variants, like any good folk food or song.

Now that's my kind of food!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: America, We Stand Against You
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 15 Jan 11 - 10:00 PM

But surely the song is much older than Paula Dean's invention?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: America, We Stand Against You
From: Taconicus
Date: 15 Jan 11 - 11:25 PM

Why mystified, Jim? Since when has anti-Americanism ever had to make any sense?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: America, We Stand Against You
From: janemick
Date: 16 Jan 11 - 07:19 AM

This was recorded by Martin Carthy (The Kershaw Sessions)
here is some info I downloaded about it (sorry I forget the source)

"Aux anciens parapets is a poem by Miles Wooton, a savage bit of satire on American fatcattery, spoken over a tour de force rendering of the Harry Lime Theme from The Third Man, a tune for the zither by Anton Caras. An air of sauntering menace.
The title is taken from Rimbaud's Le bateau ivre: "Je regrette l'Europe aux anciens parapets!"

For chewing gum, cola, brunch burgers and rye

America

Honor tarts, Sinatra, Mom's apple pie

America
For the death of the buffalo, the birth of the blues,
For high balls and hot dogs and bootlegger's booze

Honest John, Minuteman, Trident and Cruise

America

Dumbo, Rambo, Bonzo, Sue Ellen, J.R.

America

For Elvis and Bing and the Cadillac car

America
For space age technology, for stone age finesse,
For getting us all in one hell of a mess,
With your God save America, God damn the rest

America

Nixon, Kissinger, bombs in Vietnam

America

That sly red-necked huckster they call Uncle Sam

America
For the sake of the thousands of children who died,
For your generals, your senators, your presidents who lied,
For their Mickey Mouse morals, Neanderthal pride

America

Showbiz and all of the razzamatazz

America
Uncle Toms cabin, chain gang, Alcatraz

America
Peanuts, popcorn, B movies and glamour parades,
Las Vegas, and crap and amusement arcades
Ku Klux Klan, Billy Graham and moral crusades

America

We stand against you


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: America, We Stand Against You
From: GUEST,Doug Saum
Date: 16 Jan 11 - 01:13 PM

"Uncle Tom's Cabin" (the anti-slavery novel)? Does this mean the composer is in favor of slavery? Doug Saum


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: America, We Stand Against You
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 16 Jan 11 - 02:47 PM

Brunchburger (two words or one) appears in many sites on google. The Seventh Day Adventists claim its origin, members at the Worthington Cafe, 1969:
Prosage Bunchburgers
Into a large bowl, crumble until mealy, one package of Prosage, then add the following ingredients.
1 large minced green pepper
1 small jar diced pimiento
1 egg
1 4-oz pkg. grated mozarella cheese
dash Paprika
liberal dash garlic salt
1/4 teaspoon oregano
Mix together and form patties.
Fry in vegetable oil until brown. Serve on toasted, well-buttered onion buns.
(Prosage is a vegetarian (ugh!!) substitute for sausage made by Kelloggs).

A lovely combination offered by Dr. Sharp's in Halifax, Canada, served at Brunch (11 AM-2 PM)-
Eggs Benny:
2 poached eggs on toasted English muffin with black forest ham, topped with hollandais sauce and served with home fries.

Unwined in Baltimore offers a brunch burger: Angus beef topped with bacon, cheddar or blue cheese and fried egg, all in a bun, and home fries on the side.

Many other greats; a very rare beef burger, topped with avocado, smoked mayo and argula, called the Origin Burger, at the Origin restaurant in Toronto.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: America, We Stand Against You
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 21 Jan 11 - 06:41 PM

Well, I still can't locate the Worthington Café, although I suppose Worthington, Ohio is the most likely location. There's an SDA church there and an SDA academy. And I still don't know how the Adventists managed to annoy Miles Wootton so severely with their brunch burgers that he decided to include them in a rant about America. Do you suppose he was once stranded in Worthington, Ohio when the only restaurant open was the Worthington Café? Hey, I was once stranded in Bath, Maine late on a Sunday evening when the only restaurant I could find open was a McDonalds. But do you hear me ranting about Mainers? No, it was my own fault; I had forgotten that businesses in small towns tend to close early.

Oh, I don't blame him for ranting. I'm just trying to figure out why he chose those particular things to rant about.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: America, We Stand Against You
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 21 Jan 11 - 07:29 PM

Worthington Foods, my error.
But scroll down in this Adventist site, about 3/4, p. 13 of the pdf, following illustration of a Prosage brunchburger.

http://www.adventistarchives.org/docs/LUH/LUH19690304-V61-09_C.pdf

(Note- the __ may be doubled)

Article, Which came first, Brunch or the Brunchburger?


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