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Gary T 21 Oct 00 - 04:52 PM
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Subject: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Gary T
Date: 21 Oct 00 - 04:52 PM

This came up in some other thread, and I figured some Mudcatters would like an answer. Check it out.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Peter T.
Date: 21 Oct 00 - 05:06 PM

Raises other important questions:

What was Bill Clinton thinking? No one would find out?

When the French left Vietnam, why did no one in the American government ask them why?

Why do people who are afraid of corporations and factories buy bottled water which is -- bottled in a factory and sold by corporations!?

Why is the solution to the latest energy crisis a concerted effort to increase the gas mileage in SUV's?

Why don't they give people in tourist class hammocks to sleep in on overnight flights?

yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 21 Oct 00 - 05:14 PM

How does the snow plough driver get to work?

Skipjack


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Peter T.
Date: 21 Oct 00 - 05:18 PM

More questions:

Why can't you stop CD's in the middle of a song? A cheap tape recorder will do this with a cheap tape. Did they decide that no one was interested?

They are still running ads that say "whiter than white." What can this possibly mean?

Why are adult movies so childish?

yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 21 Oct 00 - 05:22 PM

What's the opposite of a personal friend?

Skipjack


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: MK
Date: 21 Oct 00 - 05:31 PM

You want more oxymorons, click here.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Peter T.
Date: 21 Oct 00 - 05:32 PM

More questions:

Why do they sell plastic garbage bags in plastic bags?

What would a grade C or even a grade B- egg look like?

Why would anyone talk to Mike Wallace?

In Zorro, Don Diego was the only person in Spanish California with a little tiny horizontal mustache like Zorro. Hello?

If you go to the movies today in multiplexes, the movies are so loud that the sound bleeds into the neighbouring multiplex, requiring the sound to be turned up to cover the sound from the other multiplex.

yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 21 Oct 00 - 05:42 PM

Maybe kamikaze pilots wore helmets so that their mother would come to the open casket funeral.

Little Neo


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Bernard
Date: 21 Oct 00 - 05:50 PM

You can stop CD's in the middle of a song - what do you think the pause button is for?!! To continue playing, press the pause button again!

Use the >> key to audibly scan through (most cassettes can't!) or << to scan back.

If your CD player hasn't got these functions, perhaps you've lost the remote control?!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: catspaw49
Date: 21 Oct 00 - 05:54 PM

Peter has an ecologically friendly CD player and the hamsters won't stop on command.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: bill\sables
Date: 21 Oct 00 - 05:55 PM

Why do they put frosted glass in the toilet windows in aircraft?


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Peter T.
Date: 21 Oct 00 - 06:05 PM

On my CD player if you want to scroll to the middle of a song and start, forget it. All you can do is skip from the beginning of one song to another. If you want to go backwards and forwards a few seconds, no way. I imagine they do this on really expensive ones, where you can cue to any number you like, but not on my Sony.
yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Gary T
Date: 21 Oct 00 - 06:33 PM

Peter, this may not apply to yours, but on some units if you press the ">" button momentarily, it will skip to the beginning of the next track, but if you hold that button down, it will scroll through the current track at high speed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 21 Oct 00 - 06:40 PM

And how do they know that that particular brand of toilet paper really IS kitten soft?

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 21 Oct 00 - 06:41 PM

And why, when I buy a packet of mixed nuts, does it say on the back, Warning this product contains nuts..... Duh?!

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Morticia
Date: 21 Oct 00 - 06:47 PM

Why don't you get brown sugar cubes?


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: MK
Date: 21 Oct 00 - 06:49 PM

When they say "new and improved flavor" in catfood or dogfood, how do we know?


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 21 Oct 00 - 07:14 PM

When they say "new and improved flavor" in catfood or dogfood, how do we know? - Do we really care? If it was what the cat or dog wanted to eat, why isn't it 'mouse and sparrow' flavour, or 'dead thing licked off the road' flavour?

And why are beef flavour crisps vegetarian (i.e., no animal products at all) but cheese and onion aren't (non vegetable rennet cheese.....)?

Why do they make those tables that look like someone dropped the wall through them?

And why are they called traffic calming areas, when all they do is make drivers mad?

LTS

And what DO doggies do when they get bogies?


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Bernard
Date: 21 Oct 00 - 07:32 PM

And how come 'Nescafe Original' boasts a 'New and Improved Flavour'??

Do boggies get dogies?

And what does a vegetarian do when they bite their lip?


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Oct 00 - 10:02 PM

Pretty dumb question, I'd have to say, and pretty dumb responses, too, although I can't say I don't appreciate your sense of humour...somewhat.

To have some respect and take it seriously, though...

The kamikaze pilots were highly patriotic young men (albeit pawns of a military aggressor of the worst sort), and their paramount concern was to make it to the target and do as much damage as possible when they got there. Like all young soldiers they assumed that "God was on their side", to use a common phrase, and they felt entirely justified in defending their side.

So...a pilot takes all the protective equipment he can in order to complete his mission effectively. They did NOT pack parachutes, for example, on those missions, although they usually did on conventional missions.

The helmet was needed for a variety of reasons.

1. It contained speakers over the ears, allowing the pilot to communicate with other pilots and home base...a vital matter.

2. It mounted a set of goggles, which helped protect the eyes from smoke, debris, and fire in the cockpit.

3. Its leather helped protect his head and face from injury by same, along with his oxygen mask for high altitude flying, which covered the part of the face left bare by the helmet.

4. It helped protect the ears against extremely loud noises of explosions or whatever else.

5. A pilot in a damaged plane with his helmet on was far more likely to stay in control than one without a helmet.

6. Plus, they were proud men, and they wanted to die in proper uniform, as pilots.

All of that and probably more.

Now you can feel free to go back to the usual jokes, I suppose. Remember your own patriots, like Patrick Henry, and consider what your opponents may have felt on their one-way missions to eternity.

- this post is for Nishizawa and all the rest who fell in a hopeless and misguided cause, doing the best they knew how at the time.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Matt_R
Date: 21 Oct 00 - 10:10 PM

Thanks LH, I was going to say that! BTW I got disco fever today at the craft store...saw a model of an SDB Dauntless! Be still, my heart!


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: catspaw49
Date: 21 Oct 00 - 10:19 PM

Uh, Hawk........What does Nishizawa have to do with the Kamikaze? Or are you simply saying he was Japanese?

The helmets did protect with goggles and mask and increase the chances of a pilot making an accurate dive on a warship even when injured, but I doubt if they were of much use for radios since they were routinely removed from the planes used by the Kamikaze.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Oct 00 - 01:05 AM

Spaw - Yes, I am simply saying that Nishizawa was Japanese. He flew escort on numerous kamikaze missions, but was considered too valuable a pilot to be expended in that manner. He became very depressed by the deaths of his young friends and felt guilty for still being alive himself when they had made the ultimate sacrifice. He certainly had a death wish by the timt he was shot down in an unarmed transport plane, and had informed his friend Sakai that he would soon be dead.

As for the radio thing, you're basically right. In most, but not all cases they did strip the radios out of the planes before sending them on their final missions.

Matt - Thanks! The absolute best kit available of the SBD Dauntless is in 1/48 scale by Accurate Miniatures. It's a masterpiece. The Dauntless was the most successful naval dive bomber of WWII. Have fun flying that Wildcat, and watch your tail. Banzai!


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Gary T
Date: 22 Oct 00 - 01:13 AM

Uh, Little Hawk, maybe I'm missing your point here, but how is it a dumb question? Most people think of helmets in terms of impact protection, which seems pretty useless when you intend to crash and explode the plane you're flying. In fact, I've even seen the question with the phrase "crash helmets" in place of "helmets". Of course they weren't crash helmets, but the average Joe doesn't know details like that. The question arises from the appearance of absurdity and lack of specific knowledge, not from stupidity.

I assume you did click on the link in my post to get the answer there, which, like yours, was correct and serious rather than dumb or humorous.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Bernard
Date: 22 Oct 00 - 05:46 AM

The whole point of 'one-liner' humour is that accuracy is of secondary importance to absurdity. Such humour is immediate, and not intended to stand up to close scrutiny.

I agree that there are many deep and clever one-liners, which also have their place.

However, dissecting silly stuff to 'score points' is rather impertinent and lacking in good taste...


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Boxette
Date: 22 Oct 00 - 08:44 AM

Why, when the first time you push a toaster down and it pops up, the bread is hardly warm, let alone even beginning to brown. You then push it down for another half minute, check it, and the toaster is smoking like a 50s detective and resembles a flattened lump of charcoal. Are these machines programmed like this?


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Bernard
Date: 22 Oct 00 - 08:53 AM

Mais oui, ma cherie!

Pears are the same - every time you check to see if they are ripe, they are as hard as concrete. As soon as your back is turned, splat! They turn into mush!

BTW - when things go wrong, we say they go 'pear shaped'. So what shape do pears go?

Occasional tables - what are they the rest of the time?

On the subject of one-liners, a typical example of the unimportance of accuracy (from the late, great Les Dawson):

My mother-in-law is so fat that she hung out her knickers to dry, and a family of gypsies moved in...

Absurdity over accuracy = humour (but not always!).


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Oct 00 - 10:03 AM

Bernard - Are you accusing me of being impertinent and not in good taste? OOOOO...those are strong words! I will have to get my chinchilla after you, and then you'll be sorry. It's an attack chinchilla. Actually, your point about one-liners is well taken...I just get my buttons pushed when it comes to ignorant remarks about kamikaze pilots. Go figure, eh? We all have our weak spots, I suppose.

Gary T - yeah. I looked at your link. Good one. It was all the dumb humour after your posting that set me off.

Not that I haven't inflicted any amount of dumb humour on Mudcat...this must be my comeuppance for so doing.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Gary T
Date: 22 Oct 00 - 10:39 AM

Actually, Little Hawk, I suspected Bernard's comments were directed my way. Maybe we can share?

I think I got a little heavy-handed defending my question from the description "dumb"--I apologize.

I posted this with a mental direction perhaps similar to yours, thinking not of the humor angle (such as a stand-up comic using the question as a one-liner) but of the information angle, figuring I was helping provide knowledge to the inquisitive. When the thread took the direction it did, I was thinking "What's going on--can't these people read my mind and see my intent?" (Of course, in my case, it's not read it so much as look at the pictures. Yuk yuk.) Nevertheless, calling the humor I've inflicted on the Mudcat "dumb" would probably be a kindness. I just hope I'm not expected to provide answers to all the questions on this thread! (BG)


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Bernard
Date: 22 Oct 00 - 10:44 AM

All in the interests of good, healthy discussion! As long as no-one's being vindictive! ;-)

I do have a habit of adopting a 'Devil's Advocate' stance - must start using the talcum powder...


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 22 Oct 00 - 12:41 PM

Well I do apologize if my one liner offended you Little Hawk or anyone else.
And I apologize if I offended any mothers of kamikaze pilots.
Humor seems to be a natural reflex that has gotten me through the most serious of situations. I think they call it 'black humor'. Well at least that is what I was told it was called.


Bonnie


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Matt_R
Date: 22 Oct 00 - 12:59 PM

Cool LH...this was just a little 1/72 Testors model. Small is good for me since I don't have a lot of free time...or space to put stuff in my apartment. They also had a Texan..ooh!


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Naemanson
Date: 22 Oct 00 - 02:20 PM

So, LH, you have an attack chincilla? Many of my friends are persecuted fur bearers who would be devastated to hear you making such a joke...

Or how about this response:

So, LH, you have an attack chincilla? What part of the opponent's body is it trained to go fur? If it were the result of a cross breeding progam between chincillas and boa constrictors you'd have a chinchilla wrap!


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Bernard
Date: 22 Oct 00 - 02:58 PM

And I thought chinchilla meant I shaved my beard off in winter...


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Peter T.
Date: 22 Oct 00 - 03:51 PM

I would certainly wish to apologise for my flippant remarks, especially to all manufacturers of aircraft carriers during the aforementioned conflict. Can you imagine their heartbreak after all their work? All those little bits and pieces welded together....

yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Gary T
Date: 22 Oct 00 - 04:05 PM

Yeah, yeah, that's wonderful, Peter, but on to the important stuff--have you tried holding down the ">" button on your CD player to see if it will scroll into the middle of a track?

(From a previous post: Peter, this may not apply to yours, but on some units if you press the ">" button momentarily, it will skip to the beginning of the next track, but if you hold that button down, it will scroll through the current track at high speed.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Don Firth
Date: 22 Oct 00 - 04:20 PM

Who was Chicken Teriyaki?

The only kamikaze pilot to survive World War II.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Troll
Date: 22 Oct 00 - 04:53 PM

LH... Attack Chinchilla, huh? Whatsamatta! Domestic attack rabbits not good enough for you? Gotta have an IMPORTED attack animal!
And while we're on the subject, why do you have to have an animal at all. Are you anti-vegatable or somethin"? Why not have a carrot or a turnip for protection? I'll bet one of them could be pretty vicious. or a radish!
Mammalist!

troll*** who can no longer type from righteous indignation.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Peter T.
Date: 22 Oct 00 - 07:46 PM

Thanks Gary!!! It doesn't work on my main system, but lo and behold it does work on the >> button on the CD player on my MAC (I bow to the Mudcat Gods of learning again).

yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Oct 00 - 08:49 PM

Oh shit! LOL! ROTFLMAO!!! This thread has really hit rock bottom and deviated into weird, weird humour...just the sort of thing that tickles my fancy. I am no longer mad at anyone, I am too amused.

Actually, though, Saburo Sakai and both his wingmen, plus the superlative young ace Kaneyoshi Muto all survived an early kamikaze mission...for the simple reason that they failed (under pretty vile weather conditions) to find any American ships, and finally flew back to base when they hit the halfway point of their fuel. They had been attacked on the way out by literally hundreds of Hellcats, and it was a bloody miracle that any of them survived at all (most of the Japanese planes in their small group were quickly shot down). Sakai and his friends escaped by plunging straight into a thunderhead (an extremely dangerous thing to do), and lost the Hellcats. No one criticized them for coming back. In fact, the commander who had sent them out pretty much begged their forgiveness for having done so in the first place. He admitted that it had been a completely futile gesture in the face of overwhelming American forces. In the late days of the war, the young and inexperienced Japanese pilots were almost as likely to die on a conventional mission as on a kamikaze mission anyway. Only the veterans had any real chance of survival. Thus, to volunteer as a kamikaze only made official what was pretty much one's guaranteed fate at that point...for the inexperienced.

Troll - indignant, are you? Ha! My chinchilla snorts in your general direction, and my dachshund lifts his leg.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Troll
Date: 22 Oct 00 - 09:21 PM

Little Hawk.
May an unruly tribe of rutabaga's take up residence in your sock drawer and keep you awake all night playing tuba duets.
I take little notice of chinchilla snorts and if your dachshund DID lift his leg (which I doubt) he couldn't clear the sole of my flip-flops.
I've SEEN dachshunds. They aren't even knee-high to a short begonia.
So there!

troll...who is having trouble controling his fits of laughter.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Oct 00 - 09:24 PM

OOOOooo...is my dachshund ever ticked now! He hates those "short" jokes.

Where's Spaw, anyway? I offered to buy him a drink.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Boxette
Date: 23 Oct 00 - 06:43 AM

Don, I think Chicken Teriyaki was a highly skilled but easily frightened Japanese cook. Why, when a friend's dog starts sniffing in places it shouldn't be sniffing, does the friend invariably say "that means he likes you"? Are you supposed to be flattered by the attention of the hound? And would it be etiquette to return the act to show that you like it back? Do you risk offending him or his owner by not doing so?


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 23 Oct 00 - 07:01 AM

Well, I can answer one of the above odd questions, oddly...courtesy of Les Barker:

I've got an occasional table
There it is over there
You can tell it's an occasional table
Today's its day off -- it's a chair!

(More of Les Barker's wonderful humor can be found through Waterbug Records.) He also has a web site, but I don't have the link offhand.

Aloha,
Mark


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: catspaw49
Date: 23 Oct 00 - 07:06 AM

Boxette, that's why Dachshunds are such frantic acting little buggers. They can't get their noses high enough to jam then in your crotch....makes 'em nuts.....true of most small dogs. Large breeds are generally laid back because they can get their fix a lot easier.

Did you ever think how popular crotch flavored dog food might be? Or cat's ass flavored cat food?

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Bernard
Date: 23 Oct 00 - 07:27 AM

Les Barker's website:

Les Barker

Les publishes all his own material; as it's his livelihood, please ask his permission before you post any more than a brief excerpt...

His occasional table poem (which is hilarious in its entirety!) is just one of many - one of my favourites is his different view of the Titanic disaster - a polar bear is asking 'Have you got any news of the iceberg? My family were on it, you see...'

He also created the character 'Cosmo - the fairly accurate knife-thrower' - in the chorus, the name of his lovely assistant keeps changing!


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: GUEST,Guest NH DAve
Date: 23 Oct 00 - 09:02 AM

One thing we need to remember here is that until the time of jet powered aircraft, flying helmets were nothing more than a close fitting leather hat with attachment points for earphones, microphones, oxygen masks, and goggles. The idea of or need for a helmet that did more than keep the wind out of your hair did not occur to folks until the increased speed provided by jet aircraft. Motorcycle helmets didn't become common until the early 60's.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: The Walrus at work
Date: 23 Oct 00 - 09:06 AM

Here is a serious question (albeit triggered by one of the earlier posts)
Bearing in mind the belief in transubstantiation:-
Is it possible to be a Roman Catholic and a vegitarian?
(And before any RCs out there go balistic, this is NOT an attach in any way, shape or form).

Regards

Walrus


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: MartinRyan
Date: 23 Oct 00 - 09:29 AM

Many years ago, at the height of the "troubles" in Northern Ireland, I was taking a ferry from Dublin to Holyhead in Wales. In those far off days there was still a "first class" and "second class" section on the boat. When I arrived at the dock to join the boat, there were hundreds of people herded together in a shed, having been evacuated due to a bomb scare. These were the second class passengers, believe it or not. The "first class" section had not been emptied - the staff didn't like to discommode them!

Regards


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Bernard
Date: 23 Oct 00 - 09:34 AM

As a practising Catholic (one day I'll get it right!), I can assure you that there isn't a conflict of interests!

Vegetarians are interested (in the main) in animal rights - the death of Christ is history, and not, therefore, preventable!!

No, I see your point - it's a bit like Catholics being allowed coloured condoms, because they are a 'fashion accessory'!!

What about the Catholic Male Contraceptive? A pebble in your shoe, 'cos it makes you limp...

Or the Catholic Birth Control Pill? The woman holds it firmly between her knees...


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Bernard
Date: 23 Oct 00 - 09:40 AM

'Ere! Aren't we just taking this whole 'crash helmet' thing a tad too seriously?

We're all intelligent beings, us Mudcatters, and we know the score! There's such a thing as driving the point home a little too hard, and splitting the wood!

Moreover, does it really matter?

;^)


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: catspaw49
Date: 23 Oct 00 - 10:08 AM

Yeah, I agree Bernard.......so let's talk DECOMMODE.

Martin, I liked your post for its obvious meaning, but also here in the States, there are a lot of people who use the word "commode" to mean the toilet, can, throne, crapper.....whatever you call it. The image of a crowd of first class passengers all taking a crap is pretty vivid.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 23 Oct 00 - 10:13 AM

I'd say, from my observations, that it is possible to be a Roman Catholic and be almost anything else at the same time...depending on how serious a Roman Catholic one is...

Bernard - but us Mudcatters love beating a dead horse! That's why we log on here so much, when we could be doing more useful things, like flossing the dachshund's teeth.

Spaw - cat's ass flavoured dog food? God, what a brilliant idea!!! My dachshund, of course, will eat almost anything, but I think he'd go for it in a big way!


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: catspaw49
Date: 23 Oct 00 - 10:28 AM

Well, I had originally suggested it for catfood, but I agree most dogs would go for it too. Interestingly enough, my dog is always trying to get the cat food and the cats all go after his dog food. And speaking of dog food...........

I don't mean to bring up the bodily function stuff, but Karen recently bought a different brand of dog food than we normally use. Weimaraners are prone to getting fat as they age, contrary to what anyone tells you, they are supreme couch potatoes. When they get fat they resemble a sausage on sticks, not a great appearance for a dog that is generally known to be muscular and sleek. Karen wanted to try a brand that should keep him healthy without consuming mass quantities )which would be Jaeger's preference). In any case, this stuff produces the WORST farts I have ever encountered in man or beast! He tends to lay at (or on) my feet under the desk and since the food change, I will be sitting here and suddenly overwhelmed by a cloud of this most noxious emission, which will damn near knock me out of the chair!!!

To tie this in, if we could have bottled this in WWII and dropped it on Japan and Germany, the war could have been shortened by several years.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Bernard
Date: 23 Oct 00 - 11:10 AM

Hawk - you sussed it! That's why we're called 'Catholic' - dictionary definition:

'Comprehensive in interests, tastes, etc.; broadminded, liberal...'

Doesn't explain why many Catholics are narrow minded, though...


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: JTT
Date: 24 Oct 00 - 04:48 AM

Winamp is software that allows you to treat CD tracks like record tracks (among other things: it also plays MP3s, for instance). So you can happily play a phrase over and over until you've learned it, or worked out what on earth the singer is saying. Though I still haven't worked out that line: "I'm a butcher, a baker, a candlestick maker, and I speak for the Pompeduce of Love". What *can* he mean?


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Boxette
Date: 24 Oct 00 - 05:54 AM

Spaw, I had the same problem when we switched cat foods with my (horrifically obese) pet a few years back. Take some advice and only but the best food. Merely showing a match in the room where the aforementioned pet has been could result in a scene reminiscent of Hiroshima.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 24 Oct 00 - 09:04 AM

I will be sitting here and suddenly overwhelmed by a cloud of this most noxious emission, which will damn near knock me out of the chair... the author/screenwriter Mark Wallington describes this as 'a miasma of curry and winalot' in the book 'Penine Walkies'.

Pompeduce - made up word, even HE doesn't know what it means..... all explained on the Pop Quiz, Radio 2, Ken Bruce, some time ago..... he meant it to mean the pomposity of love, but got it wrong.

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Gary T
Date: 24 Oct 00 - 09:14 AM

JTT and Liz, although Steve Miller may not have been consciously aware of it, there is a meaning to the "pompatus of love". Check it out here.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 24 Oct 00 - 09:25 AM

Nope, still none the wiser.....

LTS *BG*


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: GUEST,Liam's Brother
Date: 24 Oct 00 - 10:37 AM

Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?

...to keep their ears warm.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: Bernard
Date: 24 Oct 00 - 12:26 PM

We know, we know, we know, we know.....!!!

So where exactly is this stone you just crawled out from under??

;^)


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Oct 00 - 06:59 PM

When is this thread going to reach its target and DIE!!!

I ask you, when???


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
From: GUEST,Little Hawk
Date: 24 Oct 00 - 06:59 PM

When is this thread going to reach its target and DIE!!!

I ask you, when???


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