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Lyr Req: Give Me Your Hand / Tabhair Dom Do Lámh

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Give Me Your Hand (Tabhair dom do lamh)
Give My Your Hand
tabhair dom do lamh (give me your hand)


Dolores.burke@ucd.ie 28 Aug 97 - 11:33 AM
Helen 29 Aug 97 - 08:21 AM
Barry 29 Aug 97 - 07:52 PM
Helen 30 Aug 97 - 08:26 PM
JimS 04 Sep 97 - 12:53 PM
Susan-Marie 18 May 99 - 03:24 PM
alison 18 May 99 - 09:33 PM
John in Brisbane 18 May 99 - 09:36 PM
18 May 99 - 10:34 PM
John in Brisbane 18 May 99 - 11:22 PM
Jeri 18 May 99 - 11:25 PM
Susan-Marie 19 May 99 - 09:20 AM
alison 19 May 99 - 10:26 AM
Susanne (skw) 20 May 99 - 08:00 PM
GUEST,robert@morrill.org 01 Jul 02 - 10:35 PM
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GUEST,Rod Wilson 16 Jul 02 - 12:37 PM
MMario 16 Jul 02 - 12:40 PM
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Subject: Lyrics: irish folk, Give me your hand
From: Dolores.burke@ucd.ie
Date: 28 Aug 97 - 11:33 AM

Hi,

Trying to find the lyrics to 'Give me your hand' (Tabhair dom do laimh). Any ideas?


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Subject: Lyr Add: GIVE ME YOUR HAND / TABHAIR DOM DO LÁMH
From: Helen
Date: 29 Aug 97 - 08:21 AM

Okay, so we were all proved wrong - there are lyrics after all

Helen

http://www.reelmusic.com/midi/lyrics/give.htm

GIVE ME YOUR HAND
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Just give me your hand, and strum* the love.
Just give me your hand and I'll walk with you,
Through the streets of our land,
Through the mountains so grand.
If you give me your hand.

Just give me your hand, and come along with me.
Will you give me your hand, and the world it can see,
That we can be free, in peace and harmony?
From the north to the south. From the east to the west.
Every mountain, every valley, every bush and birds nest!

CHO: By day and night, you will struggle and strife,
And beside you, to guide you, forever, my love.
For love's not for one, but for both of us to share.
For our country so fair, for our world and what's there.

Just give me your hand, and strum* the love.
Just give me your hand, for the world it is ours.
All the sea and the land,
Through the ?????? ???????**.
If you give me your hand.

Just give me your hand, in a gesture of peace.
Will you give me your hand and all troubles will cease,
For the strong and the weak, for the rich and the poor?
All peoples and creeds,
Let's meet their needs.
With a passion, we can fashion, a new world of love!

By day and night, you will struggle and strife,
And beside you, to guide you, forever, my love.
For love's not for one, but for both of us to share.
For our country so fair, for our world and what's there.

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Some words I couldn't make out:

* Sounds like "Strum" or, phonetically, "stir rum", but could be "stirs up"?

** In referential context, it must be a geographical place name.
I, however, have absolutely NFI what or where it is.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Recorded by The Wolfe Tones, 1991 on "Wolfe Tones: 25th Anniversary"


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: irish folk, Give me your hand
From: Barry
Date: 29 Aug 97 - 07:52 PM

It seems older, didn't one of the Fureys sing that Barry


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: irish folk, Give me your hand
From: Helen
Date: 30 Aug 97 - 08:26 PM

According to Edward Bunting, in The Ancient Music of Ireland book this harp tune was written in about 1603 by Rory Dall (blind Rory) O' Caghan. O' Carolan was around at the same time which is why it is often assumed that O'C wrote it, and not Rory Dall. There are no words to the tunes in the Bunting collection.

I really don't know whether the Wolfe Tones, or someone else invented words for the tune, or whether these are the original words. I'm not sure whether I have heard a tape of O'Riada with the lyrics either.

I have heard a story about how the song was supposed to have been written, about Rory gave a woman his hand to help her into a boat and he recognised her by her scent as a woman he had some sort of affection for, so he composed the tune.

Helen


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: irish folk, Give me your hand
From: JimS
Date: 04 Sep 97 - 12:53 PM

Helen wrote:

"Sounds like "Strum" or, phonetically, "stir rum", but could be "stirs up"? "

Those lyrics are actually the Gaelic title: "Tabhair dom do laimh" which means (no surprise) "give me your hand". Sounds like "taur dum do law".

I heard that the poem was written by way of an apology to the woman, whom the poet had slighted.


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: irish folk, Give me your hand
From: Susan-Marie
Date: 18 May 99 - 03:24 PM

The midi for this song at Reelmusic gives it 4/4 time. After hearing it played, it sounds like it should be in a slow 6/8. Can someone who knows the song or tune confirm that for me? Thanks.


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: irish folk, Give me your hand
From: alison
Date: 18 May 99 - 09:33 PM

Hi,

I do it in 3/4. If you want a Gif of the music let me know.

Slainte

alison


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Subject: Tune Add: GIVE ME YOUR HAND
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 18 May 99 - 09:36 PM

Susan-Marie, I would regard this tune as 3/4, and I have attached an ABC notation of it below (from Richard Robinson's Tunebook). I see that another author regards it as 6/8. As for the 4/4 transcroption, being a newcomer to using a piano keyboard to input tunes, I could see how easily this could happen. Perhaps Lesley might comment on this, being a very accomplished MIDI sequencer.

Regards
John

PS Tried to send you a MIDI version as well but my normally reliable ABC to MIDI conversion program bombed on me (ABCMUS1.1)

X:63
T:GIVE ME YOUR HAND
R:Other
O:Ireland
N:R.D.o'C said to have been born c. 1550
M:3/4
C:Ruari Dall O'Cathain
K:G
D|EGG G2D|EGG G2D|EGG GAB|Bed B2A/G/|AAe/d/ BBd/B/|A>BA/G/ E2D| EGG G2D|EGG G2D|EGG GAB|D>BA/B/ G2D| EGG GAB|Bed B2d/B/|AAe/d/ BBd/B/|A2B/d/ e2d/B/| dde g2e/d/|eeg a2g/e/|ggd/e/ ggd/e/|gga b3| bbb b2a/g/|aa/b/a/g/ e2g/f/|eeg/e/ ddg/d/|BBd/B/A2B/A/| GBd =f2e/d/|eeg e2d/B/|ddg/e/ B2d/B/|AA/c/B/A/ G2||


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: irish folk, Give me your hand
From:
Date: 18 May 99 - 10:34 PM

Carolan was born in 1670!


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Subject: Tune Add: GIVE ME YOUR HAND
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 18 May 99 - 11:22 PM

And here's the full MIDI and ABC - hopefully the two ABC versions are close to identical.

Regards
John

MIDI file: give_me_.mid

Timebase: 192

TimeSig: 3/4 24 8
Key: G
Tempo: 160 (375000 microsec/crotchet)
Text: Produced by AbcMus 1.1
Name: Give me your hand
Start
0480 1 62 064 0096 0 62 000 0000 1 64 064 0096 0 64 000 0000 1 67 064 0096 0 67 000 0000 1 67 064 0096 0 67 000 0000 1 67 064 0192 0 67 000 0000 1 62 064 0096 0 62 000 0000 1 64 064 0096 0 64 000 0000 1 67 064 0096 0 67 000 0000 1 67 064 0096 0 67 000 0000 1 67 064 0192 0 67 000 0000 1 62 064 0096 0 62 000 0000 1 64 064 0096 0 64 000 0000 1 67 064 0096 0 67 000 0000 1 67 064 0096 0 67 000 0000 1 67 064 0096 0 67 000 0000 1 69 064 0096 0 69 000 0000 1 71 064 0096 0 71 000 0000 1 71 064 0096 0 71 000 0000 1 76 064 0096 0 76 000 0000 1 74 064 0096 0 74 000 0000 1 71 064 0192 0 71 000 0000 1 69 064 0048 0 69 000 0000 1 67 064 0048 0 67 000 0000 1 69 064 0096 0 69 000 0000 1 69 064 0096 0 69 000 0000 1 76 064 0048 0 76 000 0000 1 74 064 0048 0 74 000 0000 1 71 064 0096 0 71 000 0000 1 71 064 0096 0 71 000 0000 1 74 064 0048 0 74 000 0000 1 71 064 0048 0 71 000 0000 1 69 064 0144 0 69 000 0000 1 71 064 0048 0 71 000 0000 1 69 064 0048 0 69 000 0000 1 67 064 0048 0 67 000 0000 1 64 064 0192 0 64 000 0000 1 62 064 0096 0 62 000 0000 1 64 064 0096 0 64 000 0000 1 67 064 0096 0 67 000 0000 1 67 064 0096 0 67 000 0000 1 67 064 0192 0 67 000 0000 1 62 064 0096 0 62 000 0000 1 64 064 0096 0 64 000 0000 1 67 064 0096 0 67 000 0000 1 67 064 0096 0 67 000 0000 1 67 064 0192 0 67 000 0000 1 62 064 0096 0 62 000 0000 1 64 064 0096 0 64 000 0000 1 67 064 0096 0 67 000 0000 1 67 064 0096 0 67 000 0000 1 67 064 0096 0 67 000 0000 1 69 064 0096 0 69 000 0000 1 71 064 0096 0 71 000 0000 1 62 064 0144 0 62 000 0000 1 71 064 0048 0 71 000 0000 1 69 064 0048 0 69 000 0000 1 71 064 0048 0 71 000 0000 1 67 064 0192 0 67 000 0000 1 62 064 0096 0 62 000 0000 1 64 064 0096 0 64 000 0000 1 67 064 0096 0 67 000 0000 1 67 064 0096 0 67 000 0000 1 67 064 0096 0 67 000 0000 1 69 064 0096 0 69 000 0000 1 71 064 0096 0 71 000 0000 1 71 064 0096 0 71 000 0000 1 76 064 0096 0 76 000 0000 1 74 064 0096 0 74 000 0000 1 71 064 0192 0 71 000 0000 1 74 064 0048 0 74 000 0000 1 71 064 0048 0 71 000 0000 1 69 064 0096 0 69 000 0000 1 69 064 0096 0 69 000 0000 1 76 064 0048 0 76 000 0000 1 74 064 0048 0 74 000 0000 1 71 064 0096 0 71 000 0000 1 71 064 0096 0 71 000 0000 1 74 064 0048 0 74 000 0000 1 71 064 0048 0 71 000 0000 1 69 064 0192 0 69 000 0000 1 71 064 0048 0 71 000 0000 1 74 064 0048 0 74 000 0000 1 76 064 0192 0 76 000 0000 1 74 064 0048 0 74 000 0000 1 71 064 0048 0 71 000 0000 1 74 064 0096 0 74 000 0000 1 74 064 0096 0 74 000 0000 1 76 064 0096 0 76 000 0000 1 79 064 0192 0 79 000 0000 1 76 064 0048 0 76 000 0000 1 74 064 0048 0 74 000 0000 1 76 064 0096 0 76 000 0000 1 76 064 0096 0 76 000 0000 1 79 064 0096 0 79 000 0000 1 81 064 0192 0 81 000 0000 1 79 064 0048 0 79 000 0000 1 76 064 0048 0 76 000 0000 1 79 064 0096 0 79 000 0000 1 79 064 0096 0 79 000 0000 1 74 064 0048 0 74 000 0000 1 76 064 0048 0 76 000 0000 1 79 064 0096 0 79 000 0000 1 79 064 0096 0 79 000 0000 1 74 064 0048 0 74 000 0000 1 76 064 0048 0 76 000 0000 1 79 064 0096 0 79 000 0000 1 79 064 0096 0 79 000 0000 1 81 064 0096 0 81 000 0000 1 83 064 0288 0 83 000 0000 1 83 064 0096 0 83 000 0000 1 83 064 0096 0 83 000 0000 1 83 064 0096 0 83 000 0000 1 83 064 0192 0 83 000 0000 1 81 064 0048 0 81 000 0000 1 79 064 0048 0 79 000 0000 1 81 064 0096 0 81 000 0000 1 81 064 0048 0 81 000 0000 1 83 064 0048 0 83 000 0000 1 81 064 0048 0 81 000 0000 1 79 064 0048 0 79 000 0000 1 76 064 0192 0 76 000 0000 1 79 064 0048 0 79 000 0000 1 78 064 0048 0 78 000 0000 1 76 064 0096 0 76 000 0000 1 76 064 0096 0 76 000 0000 1 79 064 0048 0 79 000 0000 1 76 064 0048 0 76 000 0000 1 74 064 0096 0 74 000 0000 1 74 064 0096 0 74 000 0000 1 79 064 0048 0 79 000 0000 1 74 064 0048 0 74 000 0000 1 71 064 0096 0 71 000 0000 1 71 064 0096 0 71 000 0000 1 74 064 0048 0 74 000 0000 1 71 064 0048 0 71 000 0000 1 69 064 0192 0 69 000 0000 1 71 064 0048 0 71 000 0000 1 69 064 0048 0 69 000 0000 1 67 064 0096 0 67 000 0000 1 71 064 0096 0 71 000 0000 1 74 064 0096 0 74 000 0000 1 77 064 0192 0 77 000 0000 1 76 064 0048 0 76 000 0000 1 74 064 0048 0 74 000 0000 1 76 064 0096 0 76 000 0000 1 76 064 0096 0 76 000 0000 1 79 064 0096 0 79 000 0000 1 76 064 0192 0 76 000 0000 1 74 064 0048 0 74 000 0000 1 71 064 0048 0 71 000 0000 1 74 064 0096 0 74 000 0000 1 74 064 0096 0 74 000 0000 1 79 064 0048 0 79 000 0000 1 76 064 0048 0 76 000 0000 1 71 064 0192 0 71 000 0000 1 74 064 0048 0 74 000 0000 1 71 064 0048 0 71 000 0000 1 69 064 0096 0 69 000 0000 1 69 064 0048 0 69 000 0000 1 72 064 0048 0 72 000 0000 1 71 064 0048 0 71 000 0000 1 69 064 0048 0 69 000 0000 1 67 064 0192 0 67 000
End

This program is worth the effort of learning it.

To download the March 10 MIDItext 98 software and get instructions on how to use it click here

ABC format:

X:1
T:Give me your hand
M:3/4
Q:1/4=160
K:G
D6|EGGG2D|EGGG2D|EGGGAB|BedB2A/2G/2|AAe/2d/2BBd/2B/2|
A3/2B/2A/2G/2E2D|EGGG2D|EGGG2D|EGGGAB|D3/2B/2A/2B/2G2D|
EGGGAB|BedB2d/2B/2|AAe/2d/2BBd/2B/2|A2B/2d/2e2d/2B/2|
ddeg2e/2d/2|eega2g/2e/2|ggd/2e/2ggd/2e/2|
ggab3|bbbb2a/2g/2|aa/2b/2a/2g/2e2g/2f/2|eeg/2e/2ddg/2d/2|
BBd/2B/2A2B/2A/2|GBd=f2e/2d/2|eege2d/2B/2|
ddg/2e/2B2d/2B/2|AA/2c/2B/2A/2G2||


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: irish folk, Give me your hand
From: Jeri
Date: 18 May 99 - 11:25 PM

But Rory Dall/AKA Ruari Dall O'Cathain was a different guy.

A friend of mine said Dall moved to Ireland and called himself "Morrison." Anyone know anything about that? My friend also wondered if he could be responsible for "Morrison's Jig." (My apology if this is really out there - I should be asleep now.)


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: irish folk, Give me your hand
From: Susan-Marie
Date: 19 May 99 - 09:20 AM

Thanks for all your help, everyone. ALison, I'd love to have a gif as a reality check on the computer-translated midi and ABC files. You can send it to Susan.Stedman@noaa.gov.

As I've been learning the song I've been challenged by the range one needs to sing it - I'm an alto so I drop it down a couple of keys but even then I'm straining on "By day and night". The author must have been quite a tenor.


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: irish folk, Give me your hand
From: alison
Date: 19 May 99 - 10:26 AM

Hi again,

The GIF is on its way.

Slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: irish folk, Give me your hand
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 20 May 99 - 08:00 PM

The sleeve of The Wolfe Tones 'Live-Alive Oh' holds VBrian Warfield of The Wolfe Tones responsible for the lyrics. An earlier recording carries these notes:
[1974:] This tune, revived by Sean O'Riada, was originally a composition of the blind Derry harpist Rory 'Dall' O'Cathain. He wrote it while on a visit to Scotland where he had a disagreement with a Lady Eglingtoun. He composed the tune for her when she apologized. Brian's words are directed at the disagreements between the two peoples in Ireland today. (Notes Wolfe Tones, 'Till Ireland A Nation')


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: irish folk, Give me your hand
From: GUEST,robert@morrill.org
Date: 01 Jul 02 - 10:35 PM

Twenty years ago I heard this tune on the radio. It was a live performance and I think there was only a flute and a piano.

I accidentally recorded it and played the tape until the tape wore out.

I've heard a number of versions with some significant deviations.

Jay Ungar plays it on violin on his Lover's Waltz album and I like Jay Ungar but I think he makes it sound too sweet.

When done simple and raw with good musicians, this tune can make you break out into a sweat.

I'm fascinated by it, if not obsessed.


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: irish folk, Give me your hand
From: GUEST,over my mountain
Date: 16 Jul 02 - 06:02 AM


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: irish folk, Give me your hand
From: GUEST,Rod Wilson
Date: 16 Jul 02 - 12:37 PM

I've played this tune and had a stranger sing lyrics about a trooper and an Irish girl. The chorus starts, "White, Orange and Green, White Orange and Green.........".Could perhaps find these if anyone is interested.


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: irish folk, Give me your hand
From: MMario
Date: 16 Jul 02 - 12:40 PM

Rod - welcome to the Mudcat. One thing you should know - *someone* here will ALWAYS be interested.


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: irish folk, Give me your hand
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 16 Jul 02 - 02:28 PM

That song has already been posted in a previous discussion: White, orange and green. A little ironic, perhaps, to use a piece of music which is all about reconciliation, for a song which is anything but that; mind you, it's better-written than the Wolfe Tones' effort! I tend to think it wisest to leave well alone, and resist the temptation to set one's own words to instrumental pieces like this unless they are of equal quality; which is pretty rare.

A number of largely apocryphal stories have circulated about the circumstances of the tune's composition; further details can be seen at Andrew Kuntz's The Fiddler's Companion:

Give Me Your Hand (search results).

The Gaelic and English titles seem not to have appeared in print until 1840; prior to that (at least since 1644) the piece was known by its (original?) Latin name, Da Mihi Manum. Ruari Dall wasn't exactly "on a visit" to Scotland; he lived there for most of his life, and the tune was first published there.


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: irish folk, Give me your hand
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Jul 02 - 07:52 PM

English and Gaelic titles first appeared in 'A Collection of Ancient Irish Airs', by John Mulholland, 2 vols. Belfast, 1810.


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: irish folk, Give me your hand
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 16 Jul 02 - 09:46 PM

Thanks for that clarification.


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: irish folk, Give me your hand
From: GUEST,Rod Wilson
Date: 17 Jul 02 - 02:00 PM

Thanks for the welcome MMario and the pointer to a previous discussion, Malcolm. I'll try to loose the guest tag and look in again.


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: irish folk, Give me your hand
From: Helen
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 09:23 PM

I have copied this comment from GUEST,Croí which was added to another thread, so that it can be kept with the appropriate discussion. As I replied in the other thread, I can claim no responsibility for the lyrics I posted above, because I simply did an Internet search. (Ex-librarian's prerogative: to just find the info, but not be held responsible for any mistakes - tee-hee!)

Anyway, GUEST,Croí's excellent comments clear the confusion up about the mistaken word "strum" in the lyrics that I found at reelmusic.

Subject: Helen - going back to '97
From: GUEST,Croí - PM
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 02:57 PM

hi Helen
don't know you from Adam but a friend that I dance with is getting married this June and I was telling her about 'Tabhair Dom do Lámh' for a song and I found a music file and sent it and then went on a search for the lyrics.
came, by way of the convoluted path of web-magic, to your post in '97 !! and I HAD to write because of the first line, there was confusion about the 'strum* the love'....

what it actually is, is the Gaelic form of the title.
from my hearing it at home, it was always
'Give me your hand, 'gus tabhair dom do lámh'

"'gus" being an abbreviation of "agus" - Irish for "and"
"tabhair" - pronounced 'tour' - Irish for "give"
"dom" - pronounced 'dumb' - Irish for "to me"
"do" - 'duh' - Irish for "your"
"lámh" - 'law-iv' - Irish for ..... you guessed it ! ... "hand"

I think this is why you got that 's tru m' 'gus tour dumb' and 'the love' is really 'duh law-iv'

Not sure if you could care less at this point but you know, you never can tell what little thing might always be niggling away at the old brain cells and I thought - just on the offchance - I'd write and put you out of your misery !!

When I get time, I'd like to check back here - seems an interesting
spot !!

anyway, all the best !
go gentle
Croí


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: irish folk, Give me your hand
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Mar 04 - 08:17 PM

just wondering if anyone knows a site that has the Gaelic lyrics to this song? I've been trying for a while but I haven't had any luck. Thanks


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: irish folk, Give me your hand
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 27 Mar 04 - 08:40 PM

That would be because, so far as can be told, there aren't any Gaelic lyrics. As mentioned above, the tune had a Latin title for the first couple of hundred years of its life; the Gaelic and English titles first appear at about the same time. There seems to be no record of Rory Dall having made words for his composition (if he had, he'd have been as likely to use English -or even Latin- as Gaelic), and songs set to it appear all to be modern; of course someone may well have written a Gaelic lyric for it at some point, and perhaps someone else will know of one.


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: irish folk, Give me your hand
From: open mike
Date: 27 Mar 04 - 09:04 PM

welll, we used to call it (in hushed tones speaking among band members)
Give Me Your Gland...


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: irish folk, Give me your hand
From: paddymac
Date: 28 Mar 04 - 05:38 AM

I suspect that Malcolm is correct in his supposition that the composer did not write lyrics for the tune. Probably the most widely known lyrics today are those by Brian Warfield of the "The Wolfe Tones." Suzanne correctly charcterized them above. The song, with lyrics, is included in "The Wofle Tones Songbook, Vol. 2," Published by Waltons Music, Inc., in 1990, which I have. The end note for the song reads thusly: "By the blind harper Rory 'Dall' O'Cahan with additional words by Brian." I want to search the DT first, but if a complete and "correct" version isn't there, I'll post them "as published."


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: irish folk, Give me your hand
From: Com Seangan
Date: 28 Mar 04 - 06:16 AM

A great and educative discussion. But Croí is bang on on the "strum the love" part of it as a truailliú of the Irish words. This beautiful tune feels really at home on the uileann pipes and is quite often preceded (or followed) by Sí Beag Sí Mór. Are they both attributed to Rory Dall?


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Subject: Lyr Add: GIVE ME YOUR HAND (from Wolfe Tones)
From: paddymac
Date: 28 Mar 04 - 07:45 PM

Com - "Si Beag Si Mor" is, I believe, an O'Carolan piece, and probably the most widely played session tune attributable to him.

Now, here's the "Wolfe Tones'" version of "Give Me Your Hand."

GIVE ME YOUR HAND
From "The Wolfe Tones Songbook Vol. 2"; Lyrics by Brian Warfield, (c) Waltons Music, 1990

Bb/F F Bb/F F
Will you give me your hand is "Tabhair dom do lamh,"
Bb/F F
Just give me your hand and I'll walk with you.
C F Gm Dm
Through the streets of our land, through the mountains so grand.
Bb F
If you just give me your hand.
Bb F
Just give me your hand and come along with me
Bb F
Will you give me your hand and the world it can see,
C F Gm Dm
That we can be free in peace and harmony
F Dm Bb C
From the north to the south, from the east to the west,
F F7
Every mountain, every valley, every bush and bird's nest,
F C
By day and by night, through our struggle and strife,
Bb F C
I'm beside you to guide you forever my love,
F F7 Bb Bb
For love's not for one, for the both of us to share,
Dm C F
For a country so fair, for a world of what's there.


Will you give me your hand is "tabhair dom do lamh,"
Just give me your hand, for the world it is ours
All the sea and the land, who'll destroy our command.
Just give me your hand.
Just give me your hand in the gesture of peace.
Give me your hand and all troubles will cease.
The strong and the weak, both the rich and the poor,
All people and creeds, let meet their needs,
With a passion and compassion, a new world of love.
By day and by night, through our struggle and strife,
I'm beside you to guide you forever my love,
For love's not for one, for the both of us to share,
For a country so fair, for a world of what's there.


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: irish folk, Give me your hand
From: paddymac
Date: 28 Mar 04 - 08:00 PM

Lyrics came through ok, but the chord placement got screwed up. hope this one works ok.


From "The Wolfe Tones Songbook Vol. 2"; Lyrics by Brian Warfield, (c) Waltons Music, 1990
                                                                               Bb/F         F       Bb/F          F               
WILL YOU GIVE ME YOUR HAND IS "TABHAIR DOM DO LAMH,"
             Bb/F         F
         JUST GIVE ME YOUR HAND AND I'LL WALK WITH YOU.
             C             F                Gm          Dm
THROUGH THE STREETS OF OUR LAND, THROUGH THE MOUNTAINS SO GRAND.
                Bb          F
         IF YOU GIVE ME YOUR HAND.
      Bb          F
JUST GIVE ME YOUR HAND AND COME ALONG WITH ME
                  Bb          F
         WILL YOU GIVE ME YOUR HAND AND THE WORLD IT CAN SEE,
       C       F       Gm             Dm
THAT WE CAN BE FREE IN PEACE AND HARMONY
                  F            Dm             Bb          C
         FROM THE NORTH TO THE SOUTH, FROM THE EAST TO THE WEST,
       F                            F7
EVERY MOUNTAIN, EVERY VALLEY, EVERY BUSH AND BIRD'S NEST,
         F                               C
         BY DAY AND BY NIGHT, THROUGH OUR STRUGGLE AND STRIFE,
       Bb          F                   C
I'M BESIDE YOU TO GUIDE YOU FOREVER MY LOVE,
             F             F7          Bb            Bb
         FOR LOVE'S NOT FOR ONE, FOR THE BOTH OF US TO SHARE,
                  Dm          C               F
FOR A COUNTRY SO FAIR, FOR A WORLD OF WHAT'S THERE.


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: irish folk, Give me your hand
From: paddymac
Date: 28 Mar 04 - 08:15 PM

Screwed up again. Let me try it this way.

Line 1. Chords should be over: Give, Hand, Tab--, & Lamh
Line 2,                        Give, & Hand
Line 3.                        Streets, Land, Mount--, & Grand
Line 4.                        Give & Hand
Line 5.                        Give & Hand
Line 6.                        Give & Hand
Line 7.                        We, Free, Peace, & ----NY
Line 8.                        North, South, East & West
Line 9.                        Mount-- & Bush
Line 10.                      By & Strug---
Line 11.                      --Side, Guide & Love
Line 12.                      Love's, One, Both & Share
Line 13.                      Fair, World & There.

If anyone can tell me why it got screwed up in transmittal, I would appreciate your advice in a PM.


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: irish folk, Give me your hand
From: GUEST,An Púca
Date: 30 Mar 04 - 04:17 PM

Whatever the age, there definitely are Irish lyrics where the first line is "Tabhair dom do láimh, tabhair dom do láimh" as far as I can remember. I don't have any references for this but would assume some of the harpists' books (say Nancy Calthorpe's ones as a good first bet) would have them. I''ve used the search facility but haven't come across them on this site, which is surprising given the amount of times the tune has been discussed. As I write, I recollect that the second line probably started with "Tabhair dom do láimh" again - and quite possibly, the rest of the lyrics are no more memorable for others than for me now.

My only other memory in connection with lyrics to Tabhair dom do láimh is that on first hearing the Wolfe Tones' version (also last hearing - I am careful), I felt the opening line was simply a "half-translation" of the Irish lyrics which I had heard previously.

As regards some of the comments in the threads I have read, I feel that some of those relating to Ruairí Dall in Ireland and Scotland are anachronistic in their perspective (or lack of same).    Gaelic Ireland and Gaelic Scotland can be considered the one cultural province for many centuries up to the time of Ruairí Dall (especially in relation to the more formal cultural spheres of strict bardic poetry and seemingly also harp music). Ruairí Dall would be a mere footnote in literary studies of poets who crossed Sruth na Maoile in search of new or different patrons and there seems to have been a superior class of poets whose privilege it was to exact hospitality from any lord or chieftain in either Gaelic Ireland or Scotland if they wished to follow a circuit from southerly Munster to the top of Lewis. Muireadhach Albanach (Ó Dálaigh) is one particularly known for his crossing of Sruth na Maoile. This is not my particular area or period but I am aware that much scholarship has focused on this theme over the last decade or decade and a half. Neither Ruairí Dall nor Tabhair dom do láimh should be considered with a perspective of tension between Ireland and Scotland in any way close to that during the first half of the rugby match last Saturday.

For any Irish language readers inerested, Alan Titley has writen a novel based on Muireadhach Albannach, the exact title of which eludes me now.

Apologies, I've gone on at great length and little significant info again. If only I had time!

If I might raise a last hare as I part - Da mihi manum does not fit the music of this tune without serious disruption of internal word-stress.   In fact it is a particularly "unmusical". Tabhair dom do lámh could have been the invitation of the music's glove. This is circumstantial (often the best as Perry Mason would say) evidence only - but how coincidental if a purely instrumental tune were given a title in Latin by a Gaelic-speaking composer which on translation to Irish fitted the music so perfectly? (In my opinion, the relative stresses in the Gaelic version fits the music much better than the English version also.)



PS. Having not noticed it in any of the threads relating to harp tunes etc., I wonder if people know that the memoirs of Arthur O'Neill are available on the net at

http://perso.club-internet.fr/pybertra/ceol/oneill.htm

(I get lost on the clicky thing).


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: irish folk, Give me your hand
From: GUEST,An Púca
Date: 30 Mar 04 - 06:54 PM

The mind too slow at the moment - as this is in Bunting's collections, wouldn't Donal O'Sullivan have supplied a set of lyrics if such existed in the Journal of the Irish Folk Song Society (Voll. 22 ff. if memory serves me). Anyone out there have easy access? Whatever he had to say on the subject would be interesting.

I love that the link in my previous message got clicky (!all on its own!).


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: irish folk, Give me your hand
From: GUEST,An Púca
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 09:23 AM

I should qualify my recent remarks by saying that none of what I said in them should be read as indicating that there actually is an extant Irish language text which is contemporary with the composition of the music. The best source (to my knowledge) for anyone really interested in tracking a relatively early set of lyrics (if such existed) for Tabhair dom do lámh would be Dónal O'Sullivan's work on the Bunting Mss. Another likely source and one of the first ports of call for research into material such as this would be Clár Litridheachta na Nua-Ghaedhilge (spelling betrays terminus) which is a reference book giving further points of reference to work published before the Clár itself. Checking the index of first lines there would point people in the right direction.

As stated above, this is an area of enthusiasm for me rather than expertise, but I would be surprised if an early text (if it existed) would not have been included in anthologies with which I would be reasonably familiar and no such inclusion comes to mind.

To be absolutely definitive on this point one would have to be familiar with a huge amount of unpublished ms material since the seventeenth century from Ireland and Scotland.

I would like to qualify previous remarks regarding relative stresses in the Irish and English versions by raising the possibility also that Ruairí Dall had a syllabic metre in mind rather than a song metre given his dates.

Always good to keep in mind though an observation (which I don't think Perry Mason ever made) that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: irish folk, Give me your hand
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 11:36 AM

anach cuan: July 2004
A memorial is being erected naming all those who drowned.R.I.P


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: irish folk, Give me your hand
From: GUEST,scalloway04@yahoo.co.uk
Date: 28 Feb 05 - 03:42 PM

hi,
Does anyone have the music for the piece
Ta


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: irish folk, Give me your hand
From: GLoux
Date: 28 Feb 05 - 04:41 PM

It's in the Fiddler's Fake Book...

-Greg


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: irish folk, Give me your hand
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 01 Mar 05 - 01:27 PM

Watch this space. I have submitted a MIDI, and if all goes well it will appear. Scalloway, do you have music program capable of downloading it?

The MIDI originated with O'Neill's Music of Ireland.


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: irish folk, Give me your hand
From: Joe Offer
Date: 01 Mar 05 - 04:45 PM

MIDI posted, thanks to leeneia.

Click to play


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: irish folk, Give me your hand
From: Grab
Date: 02 Mar 05 - 08:00 AM

I play a mandolin version with chords included so it stands on its own. If I get time, I'll post a tab (could also be used by a fiddler who can handle double-stopping, I guess).

Graham.

PS. Can't *stand* those Wolfe Tones words. Why do people always feel they have to put lousy words to lovely tunes...?


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: irish folk, Give me your hand
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 02 Mar 05 - 11:44 AM

I couldn't agree more, Graham. This music is artful and creative. It should be left alone.

Slapping lyrics on it is like putting a Hallowe'en costume on Michaelangelo's David.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Give Me Your Hand / Tabhair Dom Do Lámh
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Jul 07 - 02:01 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YTVk3vK0zE

personally i dont think there is a better version


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Give Me Your Hand / Tabhair Dom Do Lá
From: GUEST,Durshka
Date: 09 Jul 09 - 11:54 AM

Hi all,

This is a *very* late addition, I know. It's mostly nit-picking but after reading through everyone's posts, I noticed that noone has mentioned that "is" in the first line is actually in Irish too!

Instead of the English part of the line being:
"Will you give me your hand is"
It should be:
"Will you give me your hand"

Then the Irish part becomes:
"Is tabhair dom do lámh"

"Is" is pronounced like the 'iss' in 'hiss'

This changes the meaning of the Irish part from "Give me your hand" to "Will you give me your hand" and therefore it matches the English part exactly.

Enjoy!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Give Me Your Hand / Tabhair Dom Do Lámh
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 09 Jul 09 - 12:36 PM

Am I right in remembering that John Doonan plays this on his fife on The Lark in the Clear Air? It's a lovely air for sure but I've never heard of it having words, and the ones here don't appear to be up to the job anyway.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Give Me Your Hand / Tabhair Dom Do Lá
From: Jack Campin
Date: 09 Jul 09 - 01:19 PM

Nobody's pointed out that the tune is rather different in the older versions than as played now (Robin Williamson's version) - the structure is far less regular. Dan Wright's is the oldest one I've seen, and I think I have a copy of that at home. Anyone got a version older than that?

You wouldn't have a prayer of fitting any of the words posted here to the versions printed in 18th century Scottish books.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Give Me Your Hand / Tabhair Dom Do L?
From: Jack Campin
Date: 13 Jul 09 - 09:14 PM

And here's one of those older versions. I can't figure out where I got this except by rummaging through a pile of pencil notebooks. It's most likely Daniel Dow's "Ancient Scottish Music" or maybe Dan Wright.

X:1
T:Da Mihi Manum
M:3/4
L:1/16
Q:1/4=120
K:C
E4    G4   G4 |TG6    E2 D4 | E2F2    G4         G4    | B2c2 d4    D4   |
E4    G4   G4 |TG6    B2 A2G2| E2D2    E2G2       A2B2   |TG6    E2 D4   |
E4    G4   A4 | B4   e4   d4 | B4       e4         d4    |TB6    A2 G4   |
A4    A4   e4 | G4   G4   B4 | A6         B2       A2G2   |TE8         D4   |
E2F2 G4   G4 | B2c2 d4   D4 | E2F2    G4         G4    | g2a2 b4    D4   |
E2F2 G4   G4 | G6    B2 A2G2| E2D2    E2G2       A2B2   |TG6    E2 D4   |
E4    G4   A4 | B4   e2d2 e2d2| B4       e2d2       e2d2   | B4   d2B2 A2G2 |
A4    A4   e4 | G4   G4   B4 | A4       G2A2       B4    | e6    d2 B4   |
d4    d4   e4 |Tg6    e2 d4 |Te6         d2       e2g2   | a6    g2 e4   |
g4    d4   e4 | g4   d4   e4 | g4       g4         a4    | b6    a2 (bag2)|
a6      g2 a2b2| a6    g2 e4 | g4       g4       (gaba) | g4   e4    d4   |
e2g2 a2g2 e4 | d2e2 g2e2 d4 | B2d2    e2d2       B4    | A2B2 A2G2 E4   |
G4    G4   B4 |TB6    A2 B2d2| e6         d2       B2d2   |Te8         d4   |
e2^f2 g4   g4 |Tg6    ^f2 e2d2|TB6         A2       B2d2   |Te6    d2 B4   |
d4    d4   e4 | f6    g2 a2g2|Te6         d2       e2g2   |Te6    d2 B4   |
d2e2 g2e2 d4 | B2d2 e2d2 B4 |(A2B2) (3(d2B2A2) (3(B2A2G2)|TE8         D4 |]


Try it in a session and watch the befuddled expressions.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Give Me Your Hand / Tabhair Dom Do L?
From: Jack Campin
Date: 13 Jul 09 - 09:21 PM

Okay, that must have been Dow, since I just found Dan Wright's:

X:2
T:Da mihi Manum
S:Dan Wright, Aria di Camera c.1726 NLS F.7.g.10 tune #36 p 24
M:6/4
L:1/4
Q:1/4=120
K:EMin
D   |EGG    G2E   |EGG    G2E   |EGG    GAB   |Bed          B2
A/G/|AAe    BBd   |A>BA/G/ E2D   |EGG    g2D   |EGG          g2
D   |EGG    gab   |d>ba/b/ g2D   |EGG    GAB   |Bed          B2
A   |AAe    BBd   |ABd    e2d/B/|dde    g2e/d/|eeg          a2
g/e/|ggd/e/ ggd/e/|gga    b3    |bbb    b2a/g/|a/g/a/b/a/b/ a2
g   |eeg/e/ dde/d/|BBd/B/ A2G   |GGB/d/ =f2e/d/|eeg          e2
d/B/|ddg    BBd   |A>BA/G/ E2D   |]

A bit nearer the familiar version.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Give Me Your Hand / Tabhair Dom Do Lá
From: GUEST,julia
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 10:46 PM

I believe the story about Carolan recognizing the woman by the touch of her hand as he helped her onto the boat actually refers to Bridget Cruise, an old flame for whom he wrote 4 tunes.Her father forbid him to to marry her since he was stricken by smallpox and blinded in his teens.
Since Carolan had nothing to do with "Give me Your Hand", this is more plausible, however anecdotal.

best-Julia


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