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Sourdough 23 Oct 00 - 03:59 PM
John in Brisbane 23 Oct 00 - 07:34 PM
GUEST,Dale Rose 23 Oct 00 - 09:04 PM
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JTT 24 Oct 00 - 03:42 AM
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GUEST,Gene 24 Oct 00 - 09:44 PM
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Subject: Rosie the Riveter
From: Sourdough
Date: 23 Oct 00 - 03:59 PM

During WW II, the Four Vagabonds made a recording called, I believe, Rosie the Riveter. We have recently opened a monument to the women war workers around the country and I would love to have a copy of the original recording to pass on to the people who arranged the monument and to be included as a part of the new National Historic Park that is being developed in the old Kaiser World War II shipyards. Does anyone know where I might be able to get an mp3 of it? I can get the rights once I know that the recording is suitable.

Sourdough

(I am off on a four day research trip to the other coast and won't be able to pick up responses for a few days but I hope someone will have a suggestion or two.)

SD


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Subject: RE: Help: Rosie the Riveter
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 23 Oct 00 - 07:34 PM

I'm unlikely to be able to help with the recording but I'll do a physical search for the sheet music. It's astonoshing how much 'patriotic' music was published in WWII. There are probably books on the subject but it would appear that song writers/publishers may have been incented by the propaganda arms of sundry governments - or am I just cynical of the way the machinery of war operates? That comment was in no way meant to demean your quest or the efforts of the workers involved, merely the question of their exploitation.

In any event I'll check it out. Regards, John


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Subject: RE: Help: Rosie the Riveter
From: GUEST,Dale Rose
Date: 23 Oct 00 - 09:04 PM

At eBay ~~ $9.99 ~~ you've got almost four days left . . . Vintage 78RPM "Rosie The Riveter"..

...by THE FOUR VAGABONDS...30-0810 on the Bluebird label...b/w "I Had The Craziest Dream"...playing surfaces are visually graded as VG+ with extra nice labels (see image)...$4.00 S&H.

Dale, certified eBay junkie


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Subject: RE: Help: Rosie the Riveter
From: Dale Rose
Date: 23 Oct 00 - 10:09 PM

Any number of fairly inexpensive compilations at the usual places, Tunes, CDNow, etc. Found a one minute clip at CDNow.


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Subject: RE: Help: Rosie the Riveter
From: JTT
Date: 24 Oct 00 - 03:42 AM

Rosie the Riveter was a British propaganda figure, and there's a wonderful poster with her flexing her biceps and saying "We can do it" or something - you'll probably find it if you search Dogpile or Google.


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Subject: RE: Help: Rosie the Riveter
From: GUEST,guest
Date: 24 Oct 00 - 09:42 AM

My mom did the 'Rosie' thing during WW2. She use to sing it all the time. I can only recall the following.

All day long, weather, rain or shine,
She's a part of the assembly line,
She's making history, working for victory, ROSIE! rat a tat, tat, tat, tat, tat, tat,
The rivitor!

Rosie has a boyfriend, Charlie,
Charlie, he's a Marine,
Rosie is protecting Charlie,
Working all day with that riviting machine.

I'm sorry, it's all I can remember, I don't know if the words or correct or not. I do remember how very proud mom was to have that job making war planes. Guest


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Subject: Lyr Add: ROSIE THE RIVETER (Evans/Loeb)
From: GUEST,Gene
Date: 24 Oct 00 - 09:44 PM

Mp3 available:

ROSIE THE RIVETER
by Redd Evans and John Jacob Loeb, ©1942.
THE FOUR SERGEANTS

While other girls attend their fav'rite cocktail bar
Sippin' dry martinis, munchin' caviar
There's a girl who's really puttin' them to shame
Rosie - is her name

All the day long, whether rain or shine
She's a part of the assembly Line
She's makin' history, workin' for victory
Rosie! [*] The Riveter

Keeps a sharp look out for Sabotage
Sitting up there on the fusilage
Nothin' a 'frail' can do
More than a male can do
Rosie! - [*] The Riveter

Rosie's got a boyfriend, Charlie
Charlie, he's a Marine
Rosie is protecting Charlie
Workin' overtime on the riveting machine

When they gave her a production 'E'
She was as proud as a girl could be
There's something true about
Red, White and Blue about
Rosie - [*] The Riveter

Everyone stops to admire the scene
Rosie at work on the B-19
She's never twittery, nervous or jittery
Rosie! Rosie - [#] The Riveter

What if she's smeared full of oil and grease
Doing her bit for the old Lend-Lease
She keeps the gang around
They love to hang around
Rosie! Rosie - [#] The Riveter

Rosie buys a lot of war bonds
That girl really has sense
And wishes she could purchase more bonds
Puttin' all the cash into National Defense

Senator Jones, who is in the know
Shouted these words on the radio
"Berlin will hear about
And London will cheer about!"
Rosie! Rosie! Rosie - [#] The Riveter

[*] Riveter sound
[#] Drum Beat

SOURCE:
MORE WORLD WAR II SONGS
ABC-PARAMOUNT ABC-250

=============================== MORE WWII SONGS-THE FOUR SERGEANTS

ABC PARAMOUNT ABC-250
SIDE A:
1. Remember Pearl Harbor
2. It's Been A Long Long Time
3. Rosie The Riveter
4. There'll Always Be An England
5. In My Arms
6. Shoo Shoo Baby

SIDE B:
1. Any Bonds Today
2. American Patrol
3. The Last Time I Saw Paris
4. We Did It Before
5. A Hubba Hubba Hubba
6. There's A Star Spangled Banner Waving Somewhere

==============================================

SONGS OF WWII-RUSS WILLIAMS ORCHESTRA

TOPS RECORDS 9670S

SIDE A:
1. Till The End Of Time
2. I Couldn't Sleep A Wink Last Night
3. Symphony
4. Sentimental Journey
5. It's So Nice To Have A Man Around The House

SIDE B:
1. I'll Walk ALone
2. The White Cliffs Of Dover
3. Day By Day
4. It's Been A Long Long Time
5. I've Heard That Song Before

=====================================

WWI SONGS-THE FOUR SERGEANTS

ABC PARAMOUNT ABC-196

SIDE A:
1. Over There
2. Keep The Home Fires Burning
3. Oh How I Hate To Get Up In The Morning
4. There's A Long Long Trail
5. Just A Baby's Prayer At Twilight
6. Medley:
Yankee Doodle Boy; K-k-k-Katy
Rose Of Washington Square
Give My Regards To Broadway

SIDE B:
1. Medley:
How You Gonna Keep 'Em Down On The Farm
Good-bye Broadway; Hello France
Rose Of No-Man's Land; Madelon
Hinky-Dinky Parlez Vous
2. Dear Old Pal Of Mine
3. Smiles
4. Roses Of Picardy
5. Johnny Comes Marching Home; My Buddy
6. POEM: Flanders Field
Medley:
It's A Long Way To Tipperary
Good Morning Mr. Zip Zip Zip
Till We Meet Again
Pack Up Your Trouble In Your Old Kit Bag


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Subject: RE: Help: Rosie the Riveter
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 24 Oct 00 - 11:50 PM

Thank you Gene for the wonderful walk down memory lane. I was just a little kid but I well remember all of the songs and sang most of them. {:o)


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Subject: RE: Help: Rosie the Riveter
From: Dale Rose
Date: 25 Oct 00 - 12:15 AM

I just uploaded the RA of Rosie The Riveter to my site. Thanks to Gene for sending it. As always, the file downloads completely before playing. It is a bit bigger than the average, so if it hangs up before completely loading, just try again.


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Subject: RE: Help: Rosie the Riveter
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 25 Oct 00 - 01:18 PM

Thanks to everyone who has contributed info to this thread. I'm interested because my mother was literally a riveter during WW2. She built airplanes for Curtiss-Wright Corporation at a factory in St. Louis, Missouri, USA. She's 87 now. She's not online, and she doesn't even own a CD player, so I don't know if I can get the tune to her. Maybe she'll remember the tune. I'll print the words and mail them to her. I'm sure she'll appreciate it. I know she's familiar with the term "Rosie the Riveter" because she mentioned it several times when I was growing up, but I never heard anyone sing the song.


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Subject: RE: Help: Rosie the Riveter
From: Hollowfox
Date: 25 Oct 00 - 06:37 PM

There's also a book: Rosie the Riveter: women working on the home front in World War II Crown Publishers, 1995, ISBN 0-51759-790-X. It was published just a bit too soon to have websites in the sources list, but it might prove useful. It's nominally a children's book, and would also probably go over well in the gift shop.


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Subject: RE: Help: Rosie the Riveter
From: GUEST,Guest,
Date: 26 Oct 00 - 01:09 PM

Jim, that was where my mom built planes too! Tiny little world. ;o) (She has been dead for many years now.)


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Subject: RE: Help: Rosie the Riveter
From: Mrrzy
Date: 26 Oct 00 - 01:17 PM

I saw the movie/documentary. I recommend it STRONGLY. They play the song in the movie.


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Subject: ADD: Rosie the Riveter, Revisited
From: Joe Offer
Date: 16 Aug 16 - 02:55 PM

Linda Allen posted this song (and several other peace songs) in another thread, and I thought it should be here, also.

Thread #116115   Message #2490835
Posted By: GUEST,Linda Allen
11-Nov-08 - 12:07 PM
Thread Name: Lyr Add: Veteran's Day - Peace Songs
Subject: Lyr Add: Veteran's Day - Peace Songs

I've been listening to stories about veteran's experiences on the radio today, and felt inspired to share some songs I've written --thinking about women's experiences, and how they are affected by war.
I'm ending with a song of hope -- because these days, I'm feeling very hopeful that the insanity of war can be ended.

I'll add that during the Vietnam War I was a peace activist, and went to Vietnam as a USO singer.
Peace -
Linda Allen
www.lindasongs.com

Lyr Add:
ROSIE, THE RIVETER - REVISITED
©Linda Allen 1984

My strong right arm built the ship, built the ship
that sailed to war
My strong right arm built the ship, built the ship
and what was that all for?

In l94l, the war had just begun
Jim was so young, but soon was off to hold a gun
I was nineteen, our child was only three
When the papers said the shipyards needed me

I moved to Bremerton in l942
I learned to weld, I was the best one on our crew
The work was hard, the heat would burn my lungs all day
But when the paycheck came we girls would feel OK

In l943, in August, 8AM
I'd not been feeling well, my mind was filled with Jim
There was a knock, a man in uniform stood there
He said my Jim was dead - I hadn't seen him in two years

In l945 the war came to an end
And on that very day, the big boss he came in
He smiled and said, "My girls, the boys are coming home
You've earned a rest - go home - your work here now is done"

Picked up a scrap of metal, and I carved my name full bore
So my child would know I was a welder in the war
No place to go, I was a widow with a child
So I waitressed and I cooked, and I married in a while

Sometimes I see that scrap with my name carved in so deep
And I recall the day the boss told me to leave
How I felt like some old rag they'd tossed aside
As useless as my patriotic pride

My strong right arm built the ship, built the ship
that sailed to war
My strong right arm built the ship, built the ship
And what was that all for?

LA
This song is on my recording, "Women's Work". You can hear the song from that CD/album at my web site, www.lindasongs.com.

Recording by Linda Allen and Frankie Armstrong:
Recording by Joe Jencks:

The mother of San Francisco folksinger Bob Reid is a ranger at Rosie the Riveter National Park in Richmond, California. She is the oldest ranger in the National Park Service.


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Subject: RE: Help: Rosie the Riveter
From: Mrrzy
Date: 16 Aug 16 - 09:50 PM

Rosie was an American icon, I thought, where did you get the idea she was British, JTT? She was the American wife sent to the factories to replace the men sent to the war, who were patted on the ass and told to go back to their kitchens when the men came home, since of course they (the women) couldn't do men's work, even though they (the women) had been doing it, duh, for years.
I thought the British always assumed that women could be people.


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Subject: RE: Help: Rosie the Riveter
From: Joe Offer
Date: 17 Aug 16 - 12:15 AM

Of course, there were equivalents to Rosie in all the Allied countries - Ruby Loftus, the Canary Girls (UK), Rosies of the North (Canada), and the Land Girls (UK).


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Subject: RE: Help: Rosie the Riveter
From: Mrrzy
Date: 17 Aug 16 - 06:42 PM

But Rosie was, indeed, American... shame, shame.


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Subject: RE: Help: Rosie the Riveter
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 18 Aug 16 - 06:05 PM

The Four Vagabonds song is on Spotify (as well as YouTube, but the Spotify one sounds better.

The poster you mostly see is one by J Howard Miller, which wasn't actually called Rosie the Riveter at the time, but picked up the name from the song; but there's also A Saturday Evening Post cover by Norman Rockwell which was specifically identified ad Rosie - but that never seems to have been used as a feminist ikon in the same way as Miller's, maybe for sizeist reasons.


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