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BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?

GUEST,Greyeyes, at work. 28 Oct 00 - 09:03 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: GUEST,Greyeyes, at work.
Date: 28 Oct 00 - 09:03 AM

No. An unappetizing word is used because they are completeley unappetizing. They look and taste horrible. If you can imagine what a bunch of dried peas, boiled and mushed would look like, that's it. The word is well chosen, trust me.


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: Peter Kasin
Date: 28 Oct 00 - 12:12 AM

OK, NOW I know what mushy peas are. But, hey, I still like the thick split pea soup recipe. One question, though, about mushy peas. Why is such an unappetizing word as "mushy" used for them? Or does that word have a different ring to it in the UK when applied to this dish?


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: Cobble
Date: 27 Oct 00 - 08:18 PM

Mushy Peas Yum Yum.


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: Zebedee
Date: 27 Oct 00 - 06:47 PM

It deserves at least 300


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: Greyeyes
Date: 27 Oct 00 - 05:27 PM

But we gain as well as lose with progress. There has been a great revival in the last few years in the UK of traditional, quality made craft foods which is great to see.

I can't believe a thread about mushy peas has reached 100 posts. It doesn't deserve it.


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: mousethief
Date: 27 Oct 00 - 05:20 PM

Meat, onion and potato are a fine combination! Neat story about the village oven. Those days are gone, aren't they? Simpler times that I've never known, anyway. I was born in the crass commercial 60's, and it's only gotten worse since then.

Alex
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: Greyeyes
Date: 27 Oct 00 - 05:10 PM

It is really delicious, traditionally people who didn't have their own ovens would take their hotpots to the village baker after the days baking was done and leave their hotpots there to cook in the residual heat left over from the baking.

Kidneys and oysters are not often included nowadays, it's mostly meat,onion and potato.


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: mousethief
Date: 27 Oct 00 - 04:40 PM

Sounds delicious, except for the kidneys and oysters. Thank goodness those have gotten more expensive recently.

Alex
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 27 Oct 00 - 04:27 PM

Greyeyes,

Thanks. I'm sorry I asked.

Steve


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: Greyeyes
Date: 27 Oct 00 - 04:23 PM

Lancashire hotpot is a dish of lamb or mutton (usually best end of neck) onion and (optionally) veg, laid in a dish and topped with sliced overlapping potatoes which if dotted with butter will form a lovely crisp crust. It should always be served in the dish it is cooked in, and traditionally would also contain kidney and oysters (which used to be extremely cheap and were used to supplement the more expensive meat)but rarely does nowadays.


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 27 Oct 00 - 04:11 PM

Hey you people on the other side of the pond, I've watched Coronation St. for years.

What is a Hot Pot?


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: Zebedee
Date: 27 Oct 00 - 03:53 PM

Greyeyes,

I'll try the eggplant salting trick on cougettes. I've had a few really bitter ones recently. Maybe it's a seasonal thing.

Thanks

Zeb


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: Greyeyes
Date: 27 Oct 00 - 03:42 PM

Eggplants sometimes need to be sprinkled with salt and left under a weighted plate in order to draw out the bitter juices. In days of yore this was a standard procedure but these days most of the bitterness has been propogated out of them. I've never come across a bitter courgette, bland maybe, but not bitter.


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 27 Oct 00 - 04:17 AM

Like everything else there are good and bad mushy peas. I am a born and bred northener but admit that the peas from most 'chippies' are pretty bad. There are some exeptions though and they serve a greyish-green mush - tastes far better than it looks. Best I had were in a pub years ago where they sold pie and peas. Meat and potato pie at the bottom of an old fasioned pint pot - the type with dimples and a handle - and then filled up with mushy peas, served with loads of vinegar and eaten with a long handled spoon. Yummy!!!

Next best thing - and round about the season for them - black peas. Bowl of them with salt, pepper and vinegar, eaten stood around the 'Bommie'. Amazing that no-one ever blew themselves up releasing all that methane in close proximity to naked flames....

Anyone for a burnt potato from the ashes???

Cheers

Dave The Gnome


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: guinnesschik
Date: 26 Oct 00 - 07:31 PM

Faggots sound rather similar to chitterlings, or "chitlins," which are the remnants of what's scraped out of the intestinal, usually pork, casings. They sound absolutely repulsive, but taste pretty good. 'Specially with a lot of garlic, onion and tabasco sauce.


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: GUEST,Ickle Dorritt-given up with the cookie
Date: 26 Oct 00 - 03:42 PM

I have been known to faint clean away at the sight and smell of mushy peas absolutely disgusting. But oysters with a dash of lime juice and tabasco sauce -now your talking real food!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 26 Oct 00 - 03:29 PM

They create internal gasses that could cut through steel plate, so it's probably just as well!!

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: catspaw49
Date: 26 Oct 00 - 03:26 PM

I have never eaten a faggot. Trust me on this.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 26 Oct 00 - 03:15 PM

Here's a foodstuff (yes, it is....) that hasn't been mentioned here, and I only mention them now because the intestines creep got to me.... how many out there have eaten faggots? This is a large meatball made with all the bits left over (allegedly)and served with onion gravy. My parents used to love them, and served them regularly, I turned vegetarian just so's I wouldn't have to eat them!!

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: mousethief
Date: 26 Oct 00 - 03:02 PM

I've never had bitter zucchini (courgettes), but I've had a couple of eggplants (aubergines) that were just nasty. I can never tell before cooking and eating them which will be good and which won't. I've given up buying them.

Alex
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: Zebedee
Date: 26 Oct 00 - 02:57 PM

Back to bitter vegetables:

Courgettes (zucchini) are really bitter sometimes, but other times sweet.

I never know until I've cooked them.

Any tips?

Zeb


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 26 Oct 00 - 02:30 PM

Reminds me of my grandmother's recipe for Chicken Soup. First, you steal a chicken.


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: L R Mole
Date: 26 Oct 00 - 02:07 PM

Old punch line: Hold the chicken, and make it pea soup.


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: GUEST,Gerry in Vancouver, BC
Date: 25 Oct 00 - 08:24 PM

I like mushy peas too. They have very good ones at Penny Farthing Fish & Chips in Burnaby right next to Vancouver. The best fish & chips too. Run by a friendly Geordie family. They use canola oil to fry the F & C in....yummy and not greasy.


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: Max Tone
Date: 25 Oct 00 - 07:23 PM

In the ol' days, nothin' was wasted; sausages, leather an' glue were the ultimate by-products of animal farmin'. Triple-packaged modern stuff just doesn't compare.


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: Sorcha
Date: 25 Oct 00 - 06:42 PM

Biologically,the small "breakfast" sausages are sheep casings, the weiner/brat/banger size are pig, and the large sandwich types are beef. All sizes also come in "non biological" edible and non-edible. Non edible is a paper that must be peeled off before eating.

I know this because I used to make sausages at home. The local packing house (which also makes sausage) would order cleaned biological casings for me. NO WAY was I going to clean intestines. It involves stripping the gut, then peeling out the middle layer of the intestine. It is kinda gross............


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 25 Oct 00 - 06:09 PM

Nope, they use either real pig intestines, or a processed version of the same. The real ones tend to give the shorter, fatter sausage, the processed ones (intestines, sometimes of other animals, mashed and reconstituted) are the ones that give production line sausages that split as soon as they hit the hot pan..... I suspect it was the look of the machine that made the announcers lose it, it forces the meat into the skins, after the skin has been threaded onto the nozzle of the machine, like a condom on a particularly productive willy. Pressure and speed are of the essence or else you get a long limp sausage, or burst the skin. It is quite an erotic experience skinning sausages, almost pornographic.....

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 25 Oct 00 - 05:56 PM

Well I am English and I always thought that was how saugages were made. Mind you I have lived in Wales most of my life.

Jon


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: mousethief
Date: 25 Oct 00 - 05:22 PM

Perhaps just ignorant sausage fans.

Alex
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: Lepus Rex
Date: 25 Oct 00 - 05:20 PM

Since this is all off-topic, but still repulsive-food-loved-by-Brits related, I've got a question: On this BBC radio show I was listening to the other day, they were touring a French sausage casing factory. Some story about how they've had to lay off lots of employees---I forget the detail. But anyways, the reporter and the 'Anchor' guy were acting like stuffing meat into intestines was an unusual and repulsive way to make sausage. What the hell do the English use for casings, if they're so nauseated by intestines? Or were these guys just not sausage fans?

---Dick van Patten


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: mousethief
Date: 25 Oct 00 - 05:15 PM

Frosty X's sounds like a breakfast cereal.

Alex
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: Greyeyes
Date: 25 Oct 00 - 05:10 PM

Brussel sprouts shredded and stir fried with a dash of soy sauce is a good ploy for people who aren't keen on them normally.


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: MMario
Date: 25 Oct 00 - 04:03 PM

Bert - I don't know if they are still available, but the equivilant of your 'buckling' used to be available in little mom and pop stores on Cape Cod - for a very very short season every spring. smoked herring in spawn. course the allowed legal take was incredibly small.


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: Bert
Date: 25 Oct 00 - 03:52 PM

Yeah, and the frosty ex's also 'cost more than the regular kind'


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 25 Oct 00 - 03:32 PM

Here's to bitter, frosty ex's. (Are there any other kind?)


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: mousethief
Date: 25 Oct 00 - 03:28 PM

My ex was often quite frosted, and yet was capable of being bitter at the same time.

Alex
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: Bert
Date: 25 Oct 00 - 03:27 PM

I don't think I've ever seen them on sale as such, but I'd be willing to pay more if I KNEW they'd been frosted.


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: mousethief
Date: 25 Oct 00 - 03:22 PM

"Ice" brussels sprouts cost more than the regular kind, though, don't they?

Alex
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: Bert
Date: 25 Oct 00 - 03:18 PM

Actually Brussels Sprouts shouldn't be picked until the frost has been on them.

Bert


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 25 Oct 00 - 02:47 PM

Mousethief,

I always found Brussel Sprouts to be bitter too. Until my ex found a simple recipe for them that was delicious.

Boli the sprouts until tender, add some butter, Parmesan cheese and Pepper.

The Parmesan Cheese seems to really counteract the Bitterness usually associated with Brussel Sprouts, makes them almost sweet. God, I miss them (the Brussel Sprouts).

You haven't tasted bitter until you've had Collard greens.


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: Bert
Date: 25 Oct 00 - 01:32 PM

It's a herring that is chosen for it's large roe and it is cooked in smoke.


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: mousethief
Date: 25 Oct 00 - 01:21 PM

Bert, what's buckling?

Alex
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: Bert
Date: 25 Oct 00 - 01:01 PM

I love any kind of peas, beans, lentils, Dal. You name it. Max Tone said it perfectly, Mushy peas are refried beans made with peas.
THE VERY BEST WAY to eat fish eggs is in 'buckling' but I've never seen the things this side of the pond, dammit.


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: MMario
Date: 25 Oct 00 - 12:41 PM

*drool* [wiping mouth]

This is a difficult thread to read...too many tasty things being described...


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: mousethief
Date: 25 Oct 00 - 12:29 PM

Too bad about the beets, which are wonderful. Have you tried beet greens? Lightly steamed with lemon and butter. Lovely!

I used to like, but no longer like, brussels sprouts. They seem very bitter to me, and taste like aluminum.

Alex
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: Llanfair
Date: 25 Oct 00 - 05:50 AM

Herring roes!!!Now you are talking!! Fry quickly in a little butter, and spread on toast with a squeeze of lemon. Absolute heaven.
I love all veggies, cooked or raw or in- between, with the exception of beetroot for some reason. I make pea and ham soup, but you MUST soak the bacon/ham in cold water overnight first, or it will be too salty.
Cheers, Bron.


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: GUEST,Paul Burke
Date: 25 Oct 00 - 04:19 AM

Lancashire folk tale (almost on topic here):

A couple of hundred years ago, the harvest failed in the area around Grange over Sands in NW Lancashire. The small supply they had ran out early in the winter, and being poor, they had no way of buying in more.

So the vicar gathered everyone together in the church, and they prayed for relief.

That night, a fearsome storm blew up, and in the night the cry went up "A ship is aground!". The sandbanks around Morecambe Bay are fearsome in the daylight, but the villagers knew them well, and their heroic efforts eventually brought the crew ashore safe and sound.

As soon as it was light, the whole village set to to salveage the ship's cargo. It turned out to be mostly dried peas, which were gratefully hauled ashore. The village was saved from starvation, and that winter became known as Pea Soup Year.

The opinions of the neighbours are not recorded.

Paul Burke


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: GUEST,mike Cahill
Date: 25 Oct 00 - 02:37 AM

The deep fried Pizza reminded me of a chineese? chippy in Oswestry in shropshire where they deep fried cheese and onion pies


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: GUEST,mousethief
Date: 24 Oct 00 - 08:10 PM

Ick, Hesp. That really is sick.

Sorch, once you get the taramasalata all mixed up, you don't realize it's fish eggs. It really is delicious. I can't stand to eat caviar (and going to a Russian church, it's presented to me far more often than you might otherwise guess!). But taramasalata is great. And souvlaki, and dolmas, and spanikopita, and ....

Now I'm making myself hungry!

Alex
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas?
From: Sorcha
Date: 24 Oct 00 - 08:04 PM

I ate fish eggs once. BLICK SICK! Any time, hesp.


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