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Subject: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: The Shambles Date: 24 Oct 00 - 04:07 PM Trouble remembering names?
Following on from the above thread, this one is for those who do not need to use names and who can make it perfectly clear who they are talking about by describing, their appearance, their partners, their instrument. What kind of dog they own, where they live, who they are not and many other weird and wonderful details……………It usually works eventually but can get a little complicated, if not a little surreal, if they get one or more of those facts slightly wrong. ………….This thread may also be a good exercise for those who know such people and spend a lot of their time trying to work out who they are talking about?
Here goes…… That Scottish chap, with the funny name that sounds like a cough, you know him, I can see him now. Talks a lot between songs and breaks a lot of strings. You know, used to be in that band, years ago, with that other Scottish bloke what plays the fiddle. They were called 'Something of the something' or something. He reminds me a bit of my Uncle Jim, but without the squint. You must know him, very political, nice bloke too………… |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: mousethief Date: 24 Oct 00 - 04:20 PM Well, Sham, you've lost me. My favorite artist moved from Scotland to the south of England as a child, then to London at the tender age of 19. He made his name in the "folk scene" of London in the early 70's, being one of the first --or at least most notorious-- singer/songwriters to use the "f" word on an album. He later switched from writing primarily love songs to songs with historical themes, one of which was dubbed "British Pie" by the press for covering post-war British history in a manner somewhat reminiscent to "American Pie." He had a very short string of #1 hits in the USA in the mid-to-late 70's. He moved to the USA (near L.A.) shortly thereafter, and has been quietly putting out albums of quality folk-rock ever since. Is this the sort of thing you mean?
"I came up to London when I was 19
Alex |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: Morticia Date: 24 Oct 00 - 05:29 PM Shambles.....I think you mean Dick Gaughan,yes? Mine would be that chap, you know the one......had the wife called Linda, did a lot of stuff with her, was in lots of different bands.....you KNOW.....ordinary looking, dead good guitarist, British, I think.....wrote lots of stuff that other people do now?Oh, what's his name, it's on the tip of me wotsit. |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: Rick Fielding Date: 24 Oct 00 - 05:37 PM Gotcha Sham. Yep, I love that "ordinary" guy, you know the one from the "something of fame". And can't forget "the physician who kept all those crime notes" Oh and who could forget that "bobby" and his "penis"? (i'm not being scatalogical...just following the rules) Oops, and the "Venitian" guy with the "two penises"!! I better get outta here before I get in trouble....but trust me they're all great musicians! Rick |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: Little Hawk Date: 24 Oct 00 - 05:49 PM Absolutely as simple as falling off a greased tightrope. He's got hair that looks like he was dragged through a hedge backwards. He's got a Jewish nose that gets larger and larger as the years go by. He's lookin' really OLD now, but still plays a stunning show almost every time. Numerous fools with short attention span have accused him of being unable to sing, and of singing songs that are "too long". Numerous other fools have asserted that his songs from the 60's are all about drugs. Some people ask his son Jakob why he changed his surname (he didn't!!!, but his dad did). George Coventry (me) grew up in a place which bears the same name as His original surname, and it's near Milton, Ontario. He grew up not far south of the Canadian border, in a mining town. And so on... Now amuse me by naming the wrong guy...go ahead. Is it Freddy Fender...no. Is it Wayne Newton...no. It's....(drum roll, please)..... |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: Wesley S Date: 24 Oct 00 - 06:00 PM ONE of my favorites plays mandolin, guitar, bouzouki, and sometimes fiddle. He's released several CD's with his sister but he got his start playing bluegrass with a band that was named after a phrase from the Martha White flour package. He's from an Irish background. He doesn't put out the same CD twice. Recent releases have been jazzy, old time, celtic-bluegrass mix, and a duet CD with one of Guy Clarks guitarists. O' I wonder who it could be??? |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: mousethief Date: 24 Oct 00 - 06:01 PM One needn't have a short attention span to realize that Robert Zimmerman can't sing.
Alex |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: Mrs.Duck Date: 24 Oct 00 - 06:10 PM Big woman from Yorkshire/ husband and daughter in the same business and often the same band. Some blues, some jazz, lots of very traditional English stuff. |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: catspaw49 Date: 24 Oct 00 - 06:11 PM Guy was a pretty fair singer but had a real country kind of untrained and unrefined voice. Helluva' good picker and worked a good bit with MJH and even produced some stuff at the end. Wrote some fine songs that he shared with Buffy and Peter and vice versa. Didn't like the way things were going back in the 70's and sorta' disappeared. He does a lot of bagpipe work now, both playing and writing some stuff for the Smithsonian. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: Little Hawk Date: 24 Oct 00 - 08:15 PM You're wrong, Alex. Dylan can (or could) sing like so many WISH they could...just ask some musicians (not that I'm suggesting you are NOT a musician...I don't know what your occupation is). Ask Bruce Springsteen for a definitive opinion on it. Or were you just being funny? And now...I got a PM complaining about my saying that Mr. Bob has a "Jewish nose". Well, by gum, here was part of my answer to that... Bob Dylan is a Jew. Therefore he literally has a Jewish nose. So is Leonard Cohen, and ditto. I love both of them dearly. (Not that a "Jewish nose" need necessarilly be of any specific dimension...). I made the statement AFFECTIONATELY!!! I love Bob Dylan. I am a mix of Scottish and Czech. I would not be offended to hear someone say that I have a Scottish nose or a Czech nose. I do not regard "Jewish nose" as a pejorative expression, because I see Jews the same way I see other people...exactly the same. Maybe you do not? If so, maybe it's your problem, not mine. Follow me? I always noticed that Red Cloud, for example, had a superb "Indian nose" or maybe you prefer "Native North American nose". He did. Nothing pejorative about it at all. It's a well recognized feature seen on many Native Americans, especially males of certain "tribal" groups (and, yes, I know that some of you don't like the word "tribe" either, so say "nation" or something, but leave me alone about it). If I could only convey to you how much I respect and admire Bob Dylan, for God's sake...I like his nose, and I like his Jewishness. I like his Jewish mysticism and his Jewish chutzpah. Get real, man! I do not like Zionism at present very much, but that's a political issue. I like Jews just fine. Period. I have largely avoided inflammatory postings on the Middle East, because, frankly it's a can of worms, and people's hatred around it is so extreme that I would rather not be bothered with it. Ditto for Northern Ireland. I feel for all the helpless victims on both sides of each of those issues. I like Jews. I admire Jews. I respect Jews. I do not place them on any higher a pedestal than anybody else, but on the same level exactly. Everyone bleeds the same way. No one is better than anyone else. If you can't handle that, get a life. Isaiah might have some words to straighten you out. Cheers, George Coventry
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: GUEST,mousethief Date: 24 Oct 00 - 08:19 PM There is no accounting for taste. You can like Dylan's voice, we can hate it, and we can all get along. My wife hates Bruce Cockburn's voice, but likes his songs when I sing them. I know it's hard for Dylan fans to come to grips with the fact that some people don't like his voice. They are always defending him and "proving" that he's a great singer by quoting people like springsteen to show that he really does have a good voice. Look, it's okay for us to disagree, see? It's just silly to insist that everybody else in the world like Dylan's voice just because you do. And I'm with you on the Jewish Nose thing. He has a Jewish nose because he's Jewish and it's his nose. Besides, one needn't hate a particular people group to notice that they sometimes have physical features in common. That's really political correctness carried to a foolish extreme.
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: Matt_R Date: 24 Oct 00 - 08:29 PM LH, I really like Dylan's voice. In this rough time I'm going through, Dylan's Blood On The Trax is one of the things that's getting me by. I've had the tape for a few months now, but just listened to the 2nd side last night. I gotts ask you, is "Lily, Rosemary, and The Jack of Hearts" just the greatest song, or WHAT?! --Matt |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: Little Hawk Date: 24 Oct 00 - 09:16 PM Matt - yeah, it's one of the greatest ballads ever written. One magazine survey picked "Blood On The Tracks" as the "greatest rock album of all time". Don't worry, I was not on the panel that chose it. Bob was going through a lot when he did that one, and it is one of his 3 or 4 greatest albums, for me. By the way, the person who PM'ed me on the "nose" thing threatened to ignore all my future postings if I didn't post a retraction. How about that, eh? Talk about a MAJOR threat (I'm being sarcastic here). I've had one or two people in my actual life threaten not to talk to me ever again...they were both close relatives...my father and my mother, on different occasions. All they wanted to do was intimidate me, and get control of the situation the way they wanted it. I called their bluff on both occasions, and we are still talking to this day. Much ado about nothing. (They were objecting to my choice of a girlfriend, if you can believe it! The girlfriend proved easier to survive in the long run than my erstwhile family, I'd have to say...but we are still talking.) It's astonishing to me that my deep affection for Mr. Bob Dylan can cause someone to think I am insulting Jews, but that's what happens sometimes when people don't know a person yet, but only read what's on the screen in front of them, and draw some fast conclusions. I have no doubt made similar errors when getting upset at various postings. I once took Sophocleese dead seriously when she was just being ironical, for example, congratulated her on her point, and expanded upon it. I was later astonished to find out that she was making fun of the position I thought she was defending. |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: Matt_R Date: 24 Oct 00 - 09:22 PM I'd have been on that panel too, LH. Love the drums & bass on the album...keeps you bouncing the whole way. |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: GUEST,khandu Date: 24 Oct 00 - 11:57 PM I have more than one, but I'll list less than three. Scottish guy, plays multi instruments. Sometimes too commercial. Plays in band with a man's name. Called by some as "The Fruit with a flute", tho I think he is not fruity. Released great solo effort, dances with God and knows the secret language of birds. Black man, "rediscovered" in '63. Couldn't find his monday morning shoes. May have left them in Avalon, his hometown. khandu |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: Rich(bodhránai gan ciall) Date: 25 Oct 00 - 12:16 AM Wesley, I just saw the guy you speak of on Saturday, with a bearded fella who played guitar and a little mandolin, they like to play in real time(cheat). Great show, I wish I could remember their names. There was a fellow outside of town who ran a Moose Lodge near here. If he was still around, I'm sure he'd remember their names. OK, It's almost too easy to say I like the band from Donegal with the 2 fiddles. Used to have a flute, now an accordian. One fiddler redefines the word "singing" in two languages. Without even going into the incredible rhythm section of a fine guitarist and wonderful bouzouki player, you know who I mean. Rich, that senseless guy who plays that banjo head masquerading as a drum of some sort, the type of drum with the "d" in the middle of it for no good reason. |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: Whistle Stop Date: 25 Oct 00 - 08:05 AM A Texan, and no stranger to hard times, generally of his own making. Known as a great songwriter but difficult to get along with, and with a self-destructive streak that has sometimes gotten the best of him. Having spent some time in prison himself, he is an advocate of prisoners' rights and a staunch opponent of the death penalty. Thinks Townes Van Zandt was the greatest songwriter of all, and is willing to stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in his cowboy boots and say so. With his back to the riser he'll make his stand. |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: The Shambles Date: 25 Oct 00 - 08:45 AM Rick
"Elementary my dear Wilson".
Need some more help on the others thought, what with all them penis's? Willie or Dicks Does anyone else know who he means? |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: Bert Date: 25 Oct 00 - 12:52 PM First we heard of this little guy he was diggin' his potatoes on the flipside of some Dixieland Jazz single. His voice was OK. but his real talent lay in 'performing' a song and connecting with his audience. He went on to introduce the wonders of American Folk Music to a whole generation. And made himself quite a bundle at the same time. |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: Steve Latimer Date: 25 Oct 00 - 03:13 PM Okay, so Dylan doesn't have the greatest voice, but he sure can sing a song. Mbo, nice to ahve something to agree on for once. Blood on the Tracks is my favourite Dylan album. Lilly, Rosemary and the Jack of Hearts being one of my favourite tunes he ever did, although as much as I'd like to say it's the greatest song ever, I'm not sure it's even the best on that CD. And that's not taking any thing away from the song. Khandu, Ian Anderson and Missippi John Hurt. 'Spaw, That must be Patrick Sky. |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: Little Hawk Date: 25 Oct 00 - 03:22 PM Here's one. He is the greatest living writer of Western songs, IMO. Not "country and western". Western. He started singing in the 50's, was one half of a hugely influential folk duo in the 60's, wrote his first and most famous song about a weather phenomenon (in a sense), lives in Alberta, and usually wears a ten gallon hat. He said, "If that little squirt (Dylan) can write songs, so can I," and proceeded to do so, but he never matched Dylan's yearly output of great songs, as he has freely admitted. Still, he's one of the best. |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: Steve Latimer Date: 25 Oct 00 - 03:35 PM Little Hawk, Ian Tyson? |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: GUEST,Kernow Jon Date: 25 Oct 00 - 05:22 PM Bert Was his old man a dustman by any chance? KJ |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: Bert Date: 25 Oct 00 - 05:23 PM He sure was KJ. |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: GUEST,Kernow Jon Date: 25 Oct 00 - 05:25 PM Alex Am right in thinking "it grew to be less like f***ing and more like making love"? KJ |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: mousethief Date: 25 Oct 00 - 05:27 PM Is that a great line or what? The song, however, tends to drag on after the first 22 minutes.... You really pay your dues before you get the payout, so to speak.
Alex |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: The Shambles Date: 25 Oct 00 - 05:33 PM Oh that bloke with the blonde hair and the titght trousers. Used to sing Sailing..........Rod Stewart? |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: mousethief Date: 25 Oct 00 - 05:37 PM Them's fightin' words, Sham!
Alex |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: Robo Date: 25 Oct 00 - 05:47 PM Short guy, windy city. --Rob-o |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: GUEST,khandu Date: 25 Oct 00 - 07:51 PM Out of place, out of date, in his own world, in his white suit, in his straw hat. Is that a kazoo? Naw, its his mouth. Going up the lazy river to do a bittersweet waltz. Let me down, he did; did a detergent commercial. Dr John and he were a hoot with Frosty! |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: John Hardly Date: 25 Oct 00 - 08:59 PM You know. He's that guy who plays on that, you know, radio show with the tall goober who makes up stories about Minnesota. Can pick anything from jazz, folk, pop, even make fingerstyle sound like flatpicking. Hell of a good writer too. Love his voice and it just keeps getting better. |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler Date: 26 Oct 00 - 06:06 AM Bert, wasn't he the best selling UK artist before the Beatles , "retired" to Spain with heart trouble but still keeps coming back for more and wows 'em at festivals (pop,folk or jazz) every time he appears? Inspired a whole generation, including yours truly, to look at the roots of his music. RtS (whose ignarance is only exceeded by his arrogance) |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler Date: 26 Oct 00 - 06:23 AM Khandu, that must be Leon Redbone, another of my favourites (also did a commercial for British Rail!). RtS |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: GUEST,Patrish Date: 26 Oct 00 - 07:05 AM Chap with a grey beard, plays a sort plinky plonky type of instrument and sometimes a squeaky one and sometimes a scrapey one, emm, all very well. And he sings with a sort of bluesy voice, and he's a geordie, and he has a grey beard and his initials have an unfortunate link with the mudcat Patrish |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: catspaw49 Date: 26 Oct 00 - 09:16 AM Rob-O.......Would that be a buddy and sometime song writing partner of the ex-mailman with the "illegal smile?" Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: bill\sables Date: 26 Oct 00 - 09:28 AM Patrish, Is the person you are describing realy who I think it is, It can't be the bloke who knows Allan C can it. Cheers Bill |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: GUEST,Pat Date: 26 Oct 00 - 10:24 AM Yes indeedy Bill - you got it in one. Patrish |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: Jeri Date: 26 Oct 00 - 10:40 AM No fair! Shambles started off with the one I'd post! Rick's #3 is the guy who supposedly sold his soul at an intersection somewhere. His #4 I don't get, but I'm pretty sure he couldn't read music and his first name was a question. Last name might be something that rhymes with that of a notorious US president, but I'm not sure. Mrs Duck is, I think, referring to the woman who's married to a guy who plays guitar very well and used to be in a folk-rock band. a couple of American musicians had a hit with (mostly) his arrangement of a song. Oh, this guy's real name was Jimmie Miller. He wrote some great songs and frequently sang with his finger in his ear. He was married to a woman who's related to a guy who plays a disappearing banjo and who sometimes sings with another guy who had a funny first name and wrote a humorous song about a massacre and who's father was famous and wrote a serious song about a massacre that was removed from the DT because the publishers are anal-retentive and think someone may feel compelled to give them money to get the lyrics even though a chunk of people in the known universe have the song on a recording by somebody, another chunk has it in a songbook, and portions of the above chunks actually sing it themselves. |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: mousethief Date: 26 Oct 00 - 11:27 AM John Hardly -- you mean Kottke?
Alex |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: Whistle Stop Date: 26 Oct 00 - 03:00 PM John, I was thinking Pat Donohue. Who's right -- mousethief or me? |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: kendall Date: 26 Oct 00 - 03:49 PM He's that old guy..lives out west. Used to bum around the country. Never wrote a bad song. Never incorporated the line ..yeah yeah baby, dont mean maybe.. his songs make sense. He is also a great story teller, and he's very funny.Plays an old beat up Guild. |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: Robo Date: 26 Oct 00 - 03:56 PM Right on Catspaw49, they're two and the same! |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: Little Hawk Date: 26 Oct 00 - 08:25 PM Steve - Right. Ian Tyson. - LH |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: John Hardly Date: 26 Oct 00 - 08:46 PM You got it Whistle stop--John |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: Little Hawk Date: 26 Oct 00 - 10:58 PM Here's another. She's female. Did original material only. I don't think she's released an album just lately, but she did several in the 80's to early 90's. She has an unusual surname, I think it may be Arabic. Her lyrics are extraordinary...unlike anyone else. Her voice is rather deep-toned, and her singing tuneful but a bit unconventional. I think she is from the United Kingdom. Her first and last name have 3 syllables each. She has dark hair and is kind of exotic looking, not a sex symbol type but beautiful in a dignified way. Her songs sometimes sound almost classical at times and are quite intelligent and not very commercial at all. Not just your average songwriter. One song she had on the radio in the late 80's had a notable oboe part in it. |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler Date: 27 Oct 00 - 03:34 AM "Jimmy Miller"'s daughter by his first marriage is a folksy pop singer and he also had a long relationship with Theatre Workshop's Joan Littlewood. RtS |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: Amergin Date: 27 Oct 00 - 04:01 AM Jimmy Miller was Ewan MacColl....right? This guy at one time was in an Irish band with a funny name....he had some problems with the drink and has since cleaned up...His first name at least Stateside is an effeminate one.....and he sang this wonderful song about riding a horse... Amergin |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: Jim Krause Date: 27 Oct 00 - 01:38 PM Amergin, Christy Something-or-other. Ah, the name Christy Moore comes to mind? Is that right? Theah's this fellah who's a down east Yankee. Weahs a cowboy hat all the time, at least on stage he does. Funny thing tho' when ya talk to him, he don't seem ta have muchuva New England accent. Personally, I think he's kinda shy. Pleasant fellah, tho'. Hasn't had a hit in quite a few yeahs. Don't know why. He can still write 'em like he useta. Weahs a beard and glasses. I remembah thinkin' he might be tallah by quite a bit than he actually is. I reckon he might be in his mid fifties neah abouts. Saw him up in Omaha a coupla yeahs ago, and had the whole crowd singin' along at one time. He's good at that, ehyuh. Just can't think o' his name right off hand. |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: Jeri Date: 27 Oct 00 - 02:39 PM Amergin - bingo! Kendall, the guy is a bit wobbly and likes trains, right? |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: kendall Date: 28 Oct 00 - 08:02 AM Soddy, that must be Bill Staines..Jeri, you got it, Utah Phillips. |
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Subject: RE: Your favourite artist? NO NAMES. From: Little Hawk Date: 28 Oct 00 - 02:58 PM refresh |
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