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Pronunciation of 'Schottische'?

Songster Bob 25 Oct 00 - 01:57 PM
M. Ted (inactive) 25 Oct 00 - 01:08 PM
Wolfgang 25 Oct 00 - 12:19 PM
Uncle_DaveO 25 Oct 00 - 12:17 PM
Dave the Gnome 25 Oct 00 - 11:49 AM
Bat Goddess 25 Oct 00 - 11:26 AM
John J 25 Oct 00 - 03:33 AM
Bob Bolton 25 Oct 00 - 02:37 AM
Lepus Rex 25 Oct 00 - 01:12 AM
Matt_R 25 Oct 00 - 01:11 AM
campfire 25 Oct 00 - 01:05 AM
Sorcha 25 Oct 00 - 12:59 AM
GUEST,leeneia 25 Oct 00 - 12:47 AM
Ebbie 24 Oct 00 - 11:23 PM
Matt_R 24 Oct 00 - 11:21 PM
GUEST,Murray MacLeod 24 Oct 00 - 11:20 PM
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Subject: RE: Pronunciation of 'Schottische'?
From: Songster Bob
Date: 25 Oct 00 - 01:57 PM

In Iowa, mid-50s: SHOT-ish. (And it was ALWAYS the same tune, the one I've seen in books called "Rustic Dance.")

From Norman Kennedy, Scots singer and weaver: sho-TEESH. Note that he has the "shot" beginning, not the "scot" syllable that Murray had, but did have the accent on the last syllable.

Hope this helps.

... But I doubt it.

Bob Clayton


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Subject: RE: Pronunciation of 'Schottische'?
From: M. Ted (inactive)
Date: 25 Oct 00 - 01:08 PM

Actually, it is pronounced just the way it sounds--


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Subject: RE: Pronunciation of 'Schottische'?
From: Wolfgang
Date: 25 Oct 00 - 12:19 PM

The best transliteration of the German pronounciation of 'Schottisch' is 'shottish' (first syllable stress) as both Ebbie and Bat Goddess have it. For the best transliteration of 'Schottische' I borrow the last syllable from Matt and make it 'shottish-uh' (stress on first syllable) with a barely audible last syllable.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: Pronunciation of 'Schottische'?
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 25 Oct 00 - 12:17 PM

I was raised in Southeastern Minnesota in the 40s and 50s, and there was a lot of "old-time" (read "polka band") music on the radio. Whoopee John, Six Fat Dutchmen, Frankie Yankovic, and lots more. SHOT-ish was always the pronunciation.

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: Pronunciation of 'Schottische'?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 25 Oct 00 - 11:49 AM

In the song "Dorothy Drew" We SCOTTISHED and we polka'd to the strains the band did play..... In fact when our club residents sing it, it sounds more like "Scottidged"!

Both Dorothy and me are from Manchester so I'm not sure about JohnJ's pronunciation - Perhaps different parts of Manchester pronounce it different ways??? Weird init?

Cheers

D the G


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Subject: RE: Pronunciation of 'Schottische'?
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 25 Oct 00 - 11:26 AM

I grew up in Wisconsin with "shottish" accent on first syllable -- as a form German music played by local (including my father) polka bands. And here in NH I also hear it (from fiddlers mostly) as shottish.

Bat Goddess


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Subject: RE: Pronunciation of 'Schottische'?
From: John J
Date: 25 Oct 00 - 03:33 AM

'Shoteesh'....around here anyway (Manchester, NW England) John


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Subject: RE: Pronunciation of 'Schottische'?
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 25 Oct 00 - 02:37 AM

G'day Murray,

Here in Australia, the general folk dance pronunciation comes out as "Shoteash", but a lot of old players in the country clip it down to "Shotease". Neither has any validity in the alleged German derivation ... and nothing like the argument potential of Varsovienna / Varsovienne / Varsoviana / Versuviana / ... / Vater Wiesskopf / ... / ? / !

Regards,

Bob Bolton


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Subject: RE: Pronunciation of 'Schottische'?
From: Lepus Rex
Date: 25 Oct 00 - 01:12 AM

The only people I've ever heard say schottische were from Sweden, and they pronounced it something like 'shott-ish,' too.

---Lepus Rex


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Subject: RE: Pronunciation of 'Schottische'?
From: Matt_R
Date: 25 Oct 00 - 01:11 AM

Got it. Correct German pronuciation "show-teesh-uh".

--Matt (half German)


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Subject: RE: Pronunciation of 'Schottische'?
From: campfire
Date: 25 Oct 00 - 01:05 AM

I grew up doing the "shott-ish", too. Midwest USA.

campfire


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Subject: RE: Pronunciation of 'Schottische'?
From: Sorcha
Date: 25 Oct 00 - 12:59 AM

In both Kansas and all of Wyoming, shott-ish is what we say.


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Subject: RE: Pronunciation of 'Schottische'?
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 25 Oct 00 - 12:47 AM

Schottisch is German for Scottish, and she's pronouncing it right.


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Subject: RE: Pronunciation of 'Schottische'?
From: Ebbie
Date: 24 Oct 00 - 11:23 PM

'Shottish' on the US west coast.


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Subject: RE: Pronunciation of 'Schottische'?
From: Matt_R
Date: 24 Oct 00 - 11:21 PM

Should be "Sko-TEESH-uh"


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Subject: Pronunciation of 'Schottische'?
From: GUEST,Murray MacLeod
Date: 24 Oct 00 - 11:20 PM

Rehearsing with my fiddler tonight, I was amazed to hear her talk about a "shottish" (accent on first syllable). In Scotland I have always heard the dance called a "skott-eesh" (accent on second syllable). She assured me that in the contradance community, at any rate on the Eastern Seaboard (she comes from Virginia) everybody says "shottish". Is she pulling my leg ?

Murray


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