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Origin: Poor Fellow My Country (Ted Egan)

murray@mpce.mq.edu.au 28 Oct 00 - 05:13 AM
GUEST,Andrew 28 Oct 00 - 08:10 AM
murray@mpce.mq.edu.au 29 Oct 00 - 04:26 AM
Bob Bolton 29 Oct 00 - 05:27 AM
Bob Bolton 29 Oct 00 - 09:39 PM
Bob Bolton 29 Oct 00 - 09:42 PM
Callie 30 Oct 00 - 07:53 AM
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Bugsy 30 Oct 00 - 07:50 PM
Bob Bolton 30 Oct 00 - 08:21 PM
GUEST,murray@mpce.mq.edu.au 31 Oct 00 - 06:33 AM
Bob Bolton 31 Oct 00 - 06:55 AM
sian, west wales 31 Oct 00 - 09:01 AM
nutty 31 Oct 00 - 05:52 PM
Bugsy 31 Oct 00 - 07:16 PM
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sian, west wales 01 Nov 00 - 04:48 AM
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Subject: Poor Fellow My Country
From: murray@mpce.mq.edu.au
Date: 28 Oct 00 - 05:13 AM

I recentlly heard a song called "Poor Fellow My Country". It was from a poem by Ted Egan and the music was composed by Margaret Bradford.

The poem is beautiful and the music fits it nicely. I can work out the lyrics. What I am interested in is: Who are the poet and music composer? Do they go back a long way are are they relatively recent? Is Egan Aboriginese? The poem is from an Aboriginal point of view.

Thanks,

Murray


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Subject: RE: Poor Fellow My Country
From: GUEST,Andrew
Date: 28 Oct 00 - 08:10 AM

Murray, you are a dunce. Look in any record shop.


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Subject: RE: Poor Fellow My Country
From: murray@mpce.mq.edu.au
Date: 29 Oct 00 - 04:26 AM

Andrew,

I suppose you are telling me that it is a very much recorded song. I somehow missed it until recently.

I try to stay out of record shops because they play such loud, usually awful, music. I pretty much do all my record shopping on the Internet for that reason.

I didn't ask where to find the song; but rather some details about the author and composer. Do you mean I should read the record jackets? Tell me what the name of the album is with the information to minimise the time spent in the shop.

Murray


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Subject: RE: Poor Fellow My Country
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 29 Oct 00 - 05:27 AM

G'day Murray,

Ted Egan, who is immensely popular with both Country Music fans and folkies in Australia worked as a Northern Territory Patrol Officer before gaining a Bachelor of Arts degree from the ANU, majoring in Australian Studies and Politics. He has always had a strong sympathy for the Aboriginal people he worked with and is remebered by them with real affection.

His Aboriginal material is written with real collaboration and genuine concern ... and it comes out in tthe songs. He has also written songs about other minority groups in the Australian context - Darwin Chinese and Broome's pearl divers come to mind. I am not sure if he is on the internet yet ... but I would expect there to be atleast a fan site out there.

I have met Ted and his Lady Neris Evans at Jamberoo and national Folk Festivals and he is a real character - and an Australian with real concerns about eveyone in the country.

Regards,

Bob Bolton


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Subject: RE: Poor Fellow My Country
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 29 Oct 00 - 09:39 PM

G'day again Mrray,

I looked for a specific Ted Egan site and found none, but this might give you a few pointers on the lad: Ted Egan.

Regards,

Bob Bolton


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Subject: RE: Poor Fellow My Country
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 29 Oct 00 - 09:42 PM

G'day yet again Murray,

I must have got the substitutions wrong in the "Blue Clicky Thing" ... Just use the URL, while I go back and consult the text book.

http://www.nttc.com.au/pfm/sites/0001884/body.htm

Regards(les)s,

Bob Bolton


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Subject: RE: Poor Fellow My Country
From: Callie
Date: 30 Oct 00 - 07:53 AM

I don't know the song, but I suppose you know that "Poor Fellow ..." is the title of a novel by Xavier Herbert?


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Subject: RE: Poor Fellow My Country
From: SINSULL
Date: 30 Oct 00 - 10:01 AM

Murray,
Another dunce here. I never heard it before. Thanks for the information, Bob.


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Subject: RE: Poor Fellow My Country
From: Bugsy
Date: 30 Oct 00 - 07:50 PM

"Poor Fellow My Country" was actually written as a song by Ted and he also composed the music.

Ted is a prolific songwriter with a great feel for Australia and it's multicultural society. A the moment he is trying very hard to raise money to finance a film project called "The Drover's Boy" the idea for the film being taken from his song of the same name and the script being written by his lady Nerys. It promises to be a wonderful film but he is getting very little(read NO) assistance from the Australian Film Board, and is a couple of Mil short of his target of AUS$7.5M. The money so far raised being from friends, fans and supporters.

Check out his websiteClick here

CHeers

Bugsy


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Subject: RE: Poor Fellow My Country
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 30 Oct 00 - 08:21 PM

G'day Bugsy,

One of things I would really do if I suddenly had control of millions would be to help fund this film. (Definitely unlikely ... me ever having millions, that is!)

As far as I can see, I was the first one to publish Ted's song The Drover's Boy. It won the Bush Music Club New Song and Tune category back in the '80s and I had one of the Club members transcribe it from the concert tape ... published it in the Club Magazine Mulga Wire. I did not see it in print anywhere else for a year or two - and the when I did, it appeared to be based on our transcription.

Regards,

Bob Bolton


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Subject: RE: Poor Fellow My Country
From: GUEST,murray@mpce.mq.edu.au
Date: 31 Oct 00 - 06:33 AM

Thanks for the info, Bob. I knew you could answer that one; but I choose to post it and see what other info I got. I suppose if ten thousand people gave him $100 he would have a million right there.

Bugsy, Is his music different from Margaret Bradford's. Still unanswered: Who is Margaret Bradford?

Thanks,

Murray


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Subject: RE: Poor Fellow My Country
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 31 Oct 00 - 06:55 AM

G'day Murray,

Margaret Bradford is a teacher who lives down Sutherland way and is involved with the Sutherland Folk Club. She is a good singer/sogwriter and has several CDs, mostly of her own work. I can't remember her doing a different version of Ted's song, so I would guess she does Ted's tune. Maybe Bugsy can confirm this - although I suspect he would only have heard Margaret at a state ot national festival, if at all.

Regards,

Bob Bolton


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Subject: RE: Poor Fellow My Country
From: sian, west wales
Date: 31 Oct 00 - 09:01 AM

If his partner is someone called Nerys Evans, he *must* have checked out the possibility of co-producing with a Welsh company but, just in case not, here are some contacts which you might pass on to him:
Dafydd Hughes, Chief Exec. TAC (Welsh Independent Film Producers), tac@taccyf.demon.cyf.uk
Berwyn Rowlands, Chief Exec. Sgrin, Media Agency for Wales, sgrin@sgrinwales.demon.co.uk
Huw Jones, Chief Exec. S4C, s4c@s4c.co.uk

And one independent which has some track record of working with Australia

Teliesyn Cyf. (Mary Simmonds), tv@teliesyn.demon.co.uk

There were plans to make a feature film of Diary of a Welsh Swagman but there were a number of problems with the rights so I think it's now dormant to the point of being belly-up. There might be interest now in an alternative...

sian


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Subject: RE: Poor Fellow My Country
From: nutty
Date: 31 Oct 00 - 05:52 PM

I was over in Australia in 1990 when The Drover's Boy was receiving a lot of publicity - I thought it was a wonderful song but my Aussie relations were not so enthusiastic - Ive also heard Poor Fellow sung under the title of Jackie in the Street


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Subject: RE: Poor Fellow My Country
From: Bugsy
Date: 31 Oct 00 - 07:16 PM

He did get involved with some "High Flying" production company in the US who did nothing but spend the few Million he had originally raised. He finished up sacking them but the money was lost. SO he had to start again. I don't know how he would look at going with another producer after that episode, but thanks for the info, I will pass it on to him.

I do know that investment options begin at AUS$500.00 (thats around US$250).

CHeers

Bugsy


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Subject: RE: Poor Fellow My Country
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 31 Oct 00 - 09:19 PM

G'day Sian,

A couple of years back I got involved in a query through another forum about some Welsh filmwork in Australia and recommended that they contact Ted (Nerys came as a bonus). This led to a TV programme including footage (metrage? ... tape ...?) from the Illawarra Folk Festival at Jamberoo, featuring Ted. I'm sure Ted would have put out feelers for the film at the time. It would not hurt for Ted to pick your contacts and try again.

Regards,

Bob Bolton


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Subject: RE: Poor Fellow My Country
From: sian, west wales
Date: 01 Nov 00 - 04:48 AM

Hmm. I think I saw that one, Bob. (Oh, and the alt+ whatever doesn't seem to work on this ol' machine!) I think your Ted should at least float the idea. There aren't that many companies which work both in documentary and drama (Teliesyn is one, however) so he might not have been speaking to the right people... He's welcome to PM me; most of the commissioners in Welsh broadcasting have changed since my day, but I can still find out who's the right Who for him to contact if he's interested.

And Bugsy, I used to work for a Welsh indie and knew a lot of other minority culture Euro. indies ... none of whom were 100 per cent pleased with any co-productions with the USA. You tended to suffer through them for the (presumed) prestige. The Welsh tended to have good relationships with Canadian producers - different corporate culture, I guess.

Sian


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Subject: RE: Poor Fellow My Country
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 01 Nov 00 - 09:57 PM

G'day again Siân,

Hmmm... It always worked on my past machines - and that goes back quite a few years - it is basic to ASCII coding. You have to hold down the alt key while typing all 4 characters or it doesn't work. I have a small shareware program that prints out all 256 characters for any selected font, as well as the codes. This is indispensible when I start mucking about with specialised faces like music characters.

I can't see the contacts that I had at the time of that Welsh TV episode (this is a work machine and all settings and non-core data were scorched to the ground when the IT horde went through before the dreaded Y2k non-event. (Well, not quite a NON-event ... Win 95 stopped talking to our intranet server on 1 January and we had to switch our core machines to NT to get back in there.)

I will check to see if the contact names and addresses are in my backup CD, but I remember that the bloke I was dealing with had to be contacted on someone else's email, so he either wasn't cyber-connected ... or wasn't permanent staff.

BTW: Oh Murray, if you're still out there ... sorry about the thread drift (I think the ASCII codes are a cross-drift), but it is all in a good cause!

Regards,

Bob Bolton


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Subject: RE: Origin: Poor Fellow My Country (Ted Egan)
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Jan 14 - 04:25 AM

Yet another 'Dunce' here............
WoW...... Powerful Stuff , MANY Thanks for sharing Guys
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