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Bob Dylan Albums Question

mrmoe 02 Dec 07 - 12:48 PM
GUEST,HiLo 02 Dec 07 - 11:41 AM
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GUEST,Chris B (Born Again Scouser) 30 Nov 07 - 03:20 PM
the one 30 Nov 07 - 03:09 PM
mmm1a 30 Nov 07 - 06:26 AM
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Little Hawk 09 Nov 00 - 09:57 PM
rube1 09 Nov 00 - 03:24 PM
Matt_R 09 Nov 00 - 02:14 PM
Steve Latimer 09 Nov 00 - 01:38 PM
Peter T. 09 Nov 00 - 01:29 PM
Whistle Stop 09 Nov 00 - 12:54 PM
GUEST,Matt 09 Nov 00 - 11:56 AM
Peter T. 09 Nov 00 - 11:52 AM
GUEST 09 Nov 00 - 05:01 AM
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Peter T. 08 Nov 00 - 12:38 PM
Little Hawk 08 Nov 00 - 11:19 AM
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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: mrmoe
Date: 02 Dec 07 - 12:48 PM

why do you suppose that Dylan used the name John Wesley Harding and not John Wesley Hardin?.....this and Nashville Skyline are two of my favorites....but (of course) Highway 61 is my all time favorite....


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: GUEST,HiLo
Date: 02 Dec 07 - 11:41 AM

One of my favourites is Planet Waves.It is a very under rated album and is not always easy to find. I believe it was one of only two records he did for a label other than Columbia. I highly reccommend it..great songs, Forever, Youg, Wedding Song..great stuff.


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: bobad
Date: 30 Nov 07 - 03:35 PM

Both "Bob Dylan" and "Self Portrait" are available at Amazon - cheap.


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: GUEST,Chris B (Born Again Scouser)
Date: 30 Nov 07 - 03:20 PM

'Self Portrait'. One of the very greatest albums ever made. Honest. Hard to come by. Be prepared to pay lots of money. You'll never regret it.


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: the one
Date: 30 Nov 07 - 03:09 PM

try street legal...


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: mmm1a
Date: 30 Nov 07 - 06:26 AM

I would like to get the first album on cd but am having trouble finding it, My vinyl copy is getting pretty bad, I've had for so long and played it so much that I really need to start changing over to discs. Any help would be appreciated.

                        Thanks
                         mmm1a


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: GUEST,AW
Date: 30 Nov 07 - 01:49 AM

Does anyone know how I could get a copy of the Dylan and Ali photo?
I've looked, but haven't had much luck- any suggestions??


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: Peter T.
Date: 10 Nov 00 - 12:44 PM

"I Was Young...." isn't that "5 Hundred Miles"? (sortof).

yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Nov 00 - 09:57 PM

"No Direction Home" is definitely a good book. The original Anthony Scaduto biography Bob Dylan is quite good for the early years. Some of the books that John Bauldie co-wrote are definitely worth a look.

I think "Shot of Love" is a very good album, and it has the absolutely amazing song "Every Grain of Sand" which is one of the finest spiritual songs of all time...an absolutely transcendent and beautiful spiritual with a very personal feel.

"Dylan" is mostly pretty terrible, but the "Ballad of Ira Hayes" is kinda neat.

"New Morning" is a pretty cool album, with some classic tunes.


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: rube1
Date: 09 Nov 00 - 03:24 PM

There's a great song on an old bootleg album, (JOHN BIRCH SOCIETY BLUES) "I Was Young When I Left Home." I haven't seen it reissued on recent bootleg series cds, but maybe I haven't kept up. Truly amazing feeling in that song, I used to play it all the time.

I was young when I left home And I been all a rambling round And I never wrote a letter to my home....

Anybody know if this is on a cd?


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: Matt_R
Date: 09 Nov 00 - 02:14 PM

Sorry, elision!


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 09 Nov 00 - 01:38 PM

Peter,

Go easy, we have a convert and we can't expect perfection yet.


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: Peter T.
Date: 09 Nov 00 - 01:29 PM

Matt, you mean apart from the title?
yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: Whistle Stop
Date: 09 Nov 00 - 12:54 PM

I read a biography several years ago called "No Direction Home" that I recall as being pretty good. Don't remember who wrote it.


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: GUEST,Matt
Date: 09 Nov 00 - 11:56 AM

Hey Peter, what's the problem? Tangled Up In Blues is eeeeeeeeasy!


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: Peter T.
Date: 09 Nov 00 - 11:52 AM

Here's a new question. Has anyone been able to sort through all the printed much about Dylan and find any gems? There are all these crummy bios and "The Bob Dylan Companion" and "Inside Bob Dylan", etc. full of some facts and also real junk. The best single essay I know is Christopher Ricks'. The early Shelton biography has at least the virtues of someone being there. Anyone found anything they recommend in this dreary wasteland?

yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Nov 00 - 05:01 AM

Looks like someone mentioned every Dylan album except good as i been to you *****very good<> Dylan 0* God awful not to be confused with BOB DYLAN<> SHOT OF LOVE*** the religious period aint my cup of meat<> Knocked out loaded * i believe it starred gregory peck<> Under a red sky*** has its moments<> LIVE AT BUDAKON 0* may be worse than Dylan & the DEAD<> NEW MORNING**** underrated little piece not a masterwork but a good listen<> GREATEST HITS VOL.2***** required someone steered you away from greatest hits earlier i would agree except for this one TOMMORROW IS A LONGTIME, MASTERPIECE, I SHALL BE RELEASED, DOWN IN FLOOD, YOU AINT GOING NOWHERE, WATCHING THE RIVER only place to find em at least these versions <> <> DYLAN IS SO FAR AND AWAY THE GREATEST ARTIST OF THE RECORDING AGE IT AMAZES ME THAT EVERYONE DONT THINK SO.<> I WISH I COULD HEAR ALL THIS STUFF FOR THE FIRST TIME AGAIN. ENJOY<> FURRY


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 12:46 PM

Just listened to Sign Language. This is a song that Bob recorded with Eric Clpaton on Claptons album No Reason to Cry.

I really like the song, does anyone know if there is a version that Bob did solo?

Steve


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: Peter T.
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 12:38 PM

On the web site I noted, there is an interesting essay on the song -- its quasi-Cubist approach was what attracted me to it originally (like Simple Twist of Fate). The later versions of Tangled Up in Blue are a good example of Dylan's perversity -- he seems to delight in wrecking some of the most perfect balancing acts he ever wrote. Ridiculous stupid lines mixed in with stunning new trains of thought. Really makes you wonder. I mean wonder in the best sense: like Michelangelo taking crayons to the Sistine Chapel, and doing interesting graffiti in the corner.

yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 11:19 AM

It's interesting to hear the different versions Bob has done of that song in live concerts. He changed it around substantially, revising the lyrics. The version on BOTT was just a first attempt, but a very good one still.


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: Peter T.
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 10:24 AM

I have been working away on that song for the last few days (the open D/E version) -- so simple to play, but so hard to get smooth!

The girl is long gone, but she never escaped my mind. "We'll meet again someday on the avenue" ---

Only Bob Dylan would rhyme "employed" with "Delacroix".

yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 09:59 AM

Matt,

Now you're getting it.


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: Matt_R
Date: 07 Nov 00 - 02:03 PM

Niether can Peter! He lays awake at night wondering if her hair is still red...


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: GUEST,Steve Latimer
Date: 07 Nov 00 - 12:56 PM

Peter,

Thank you for the song title. I really enjoyed the song.

Now that girlfriend, at the risk of being unPC, I'll bet she was gorgeous, I won't venture a guess as to her hair colour.


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: Peter T.
Date: 07 Nov 00 - 11:17 AM

Steve - song is "Quit Your Low Down Ways".

I had a girlfriend once who thought that the song was about being stuck inside a mobile home with the Memphis Blues football team.

yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: Matt_R
Date: 07 Nov 00 - 10:27 AM

Man I love that song!


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Nov 00 - 10:02 AM

Matt - I am so happy that you're discovering all that amazing Dylan stuff! I envy you, because that sense of new discovery only happens once, and is it ever a thrill! For me it happened many years ago. Now Bob is like an old and familiar friend. I've even had dreams about him...usually just conversations in some place or another, about pretty ordinary daily stuff.

I don't begrudge you your liking for Billy Ray Cyrus either...

But DYLAN RULES!!! Yeah!

When Ruthy says come see her
In her honky-tonk lagoon
Where I can watch her waltz for free
Neath her Panamanian moon
And I say "Aw...c'mon now.
You must know about my debutante?"
And she says, "Your debutante just knows what you need,
But I know what you want."
Oh...Mama...can this really be the end?
To be stuck inside of Mobile with the Memphis Blues again


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: GUEST,Steve Latimer
Date: 07 Nov 00 - 08:17 AM

I don't own the Bootleg set but was planning on getting it after replacing some other vinyl that I have.

I listened to Rick's show last night and he and Peter T played Talkin' Hava Negeliah Blues. Now I had never heard this song but had heard it mentioned time and time again in various places. I expected something really deep, moving and wonderful. Instead it is Bob at his humourous best. I was giggling out loud. We often forget just how funny Bob can be, especially in the early years.

I loved the song that followed Talkin Hava Negeliah, the title escapes me but apparently it is the next song on the CD. Listening to it I got a sense that his much later Serve Somebody was an apology for this song.

So I guess I have to shell out sooner rather than later for this set. Maybe today.


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: Froodo
Date: 06 Nov 00 - 04:02 PM

Tough Mama, meat shakin' on the bone... I'm gonna, go down to the river and get some stones. Sisters on the highway with that steel drivin' crew Papa's in the big house, his workin' days are through... Tough Mama, can I blow a little smoke on you...


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: Whistle Stop
Date: 06 Nov 00 - 03:24 PM

Terry, I'm not familiar with the song you're talking about. But "Springsteen's guitarist" would either be Steve Van Zandt (early E Street Band), or Nils Lofgren (later E Street Band), or Shayne Fontayne Bruce's band on Lucky Town and Human Touch). Regards -- WS


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: Terry K
Date: 06 Nov 00 - 02:52 PM

Matt, you're right about the bootleg CDs - thank someone that CDs don't wear out like vinyl or I'd be on my third set!

Santa Fe - just amazing is'nt it? - how on earth it did'nt make it on to the Big Pink album I'll never know. But then there's my all time favourite incomplete track, She's Your Lover Now. Why, oh why was there not a proper recording. Someone said the acoustic version (on an acetate) is better - anyone heard it?

Then there's When the Night Comes Falling From the Sky - Springsteen's guitarist (who played on it and whose name escapes me) must have thought his birthday had come.

Cheers, Terry


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: Peter T.
Date: 06 Nov 00 - 01:32 PM

By the way, this is probably the best Dylan site on the web for serious players and obsessives, though there are others. The guitar transcriptions are superior.

yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: Peter T.
Date: 06 Nov 00 - 01:27 PM

Dylan Thomas is good too. Check out "Fern Hill" sometime. yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 06 Nov 00 - 01:27 PM

Khandu,

Silvio is a very good song. And I'm partial to Bob's cover of Ralph Stanley's classic Rank Strangers to Me.


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: GUEST,khandu
Date: 06 Nov 00 - 01:08 PM

What about "Down in the Groove". I considered "Self Portrait" far superior to "DITG". It seemed that he just HAD to release something when he did "DITG". I cannot think of one gem on it.

khandu


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: Matt_R
Date: 06 Nov 00 - 12:20 PM

But I still like Billy Ray Cyrus! And BELIEVE me, you don't know how much I find Oasis & ELO is influence by his music! In depth studies, ye know?


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 06 Nov 00 - 12:17 PM

Matt,

Now you're talking.


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: Matt_R
Date: 06 Nov 00 - 12:09 PM

WHOA! I was digging at the library...KNOWING that there was some more Dylan there than was listen in the card catalog, and found Volumes 2 & 3 of the Bootleg Collection. All I can say is WHOOOOOOOOOOOA!!! This stuff is bloody AWESOME! "I'll Keep It With Mine"...GORGEOUS, especially the organ! "Sitting On a Barbed Wire Fence"---ROCKS! "Sante Fe"...oh, be still, my heart!...all morning it's been in my head! PLus I found "Slow Train Coming" at the lib, and bought "Highway 61 Revisited" on Thursday. I'm goin' Dylan CRAZY! My sister is getting annoyed because that's all I play in the car anymore. LITTLE HAWK! I WANT TO BE YOUR APPRENTICE! Man, if we ever meet, we'll have a Dylan-fest! As soon as I can, I'm gonna go out and get myself a harmonica harness so's I can play it with my guitar. You know it had to come sooner or later, but

BobB Dylan RULES!

--Matt


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: Whistle Stop
Date: 03 Nov 00 - 12:43 PM


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Nov 00 - 11:28 AM

There's a cool photo of Bob Dylan and Muhammad Ali standing side by side...I think it was taken in '75 during the Rolling Thunder Revue tour. Dylan looks literally one half the size of Ali in height and every other way, but like Ali he is the greatest heavyweight champ of all time in his chosen field. Interesting photo.

Another very cool photo I've seen is of Bob and Joan Baez standing on either side of a large poster in 1965. The poster says "Stand Fast Against The Rising Tide of Conformity". Joan is holding some flowers and looking very madonna-like, very idealistic. Bob is looking very cynical. Great photo expressing the Yin and Yang of the movement at the time. Joan thought she could change the world. Bob thought nobody could.

Judging by my experience, Joan was right...but it all depends on what you think the phrase "change the world" really means, I suppose. I change it every time I change myself.


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: Clifton53
Date: 03 Nov 00 - 11:26 AM

This is a tough one. To me, "Blood On The Tracks" is Dylan's greatest work, it is just so flawless and contains that songwriting that bowls me over.

"Self-Portrait" has the finest opening I think I have ever heard from Dylan, "All The Tired Horses". I could listen to that little tune all day. The strings, the mournful lyric, the harmony vocals, and the subject matter, perhaps the noblest beast on earth outside of the canine, it just fills me up.

And not to mention "Days Of Forty-Nine", which I have been singing for years, and which I also consider one of his greatest renditions.

The first album he made is still one of my favorites. I always play it LOUD when I put it on, chasing the kids and the dog from the vicinity. I love those opening chords of "Your No Good", and "Song To Woody" is performed like the classic that it is.

I'm glad to see some positive notes in this thread, as the man gets hammered here upon occaision, for whatever reason.

Clifton


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 03 Nov 00 - 11:01 AM

Ah, Cassius Clay. One of a kind. The true definition of a champ.


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: Terry K
Date: 03 Nov 00 - 10:50 AM

As I recall, the so-called Royal Albert Hall concert was televised, I think as "In Concert" on BBC2. I understand that the videotapes did not survive (the BBC presumably thought they were not important enough to keep!) but the sound track is the album.

If it is the same one, I saw it. I had just about heard of Bob Dylan at the time and until I saw that performance had not much idea of what he was really about. That for me was a life-changing experience.

Around the same time, another young man was making waves in a different field - a certain Cassius Clay. What a time to have lived through at the perfect time in one's life. I'm so lucky.

Cheers, Terry


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: rube1
Date: 03 Nov 00 - 06:23 AM

There is not a single Dylan album that I would recommend avoiding. Some, like Dylan and the Dead may be a bit dreary, but that's the worst you can say about it. Self-Portrait is great, Nashville Skyline is great. Infidels has several great songs on it. "Jokerman", for one. and Knocked out Loaded has "Brownsville Girl" Every album has at least one or two gems on it, without exception.


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Nov 00 - 12:55 AM

Absolutely, Superdad, because for the Honest, no law is necessary. In a similar way, when you become an adult you are no longer subject to the rules which children are expected to obey. In a society of truly honest and kindly people, no laws would be needed, so, yes, to live outside the law you must be honest. One of the greatest things, Bob ever said.

Spaw, I don't quite agree about the Pat Garret and Billy the Kid soundtrack. I find it quite agreeable. As for the movie, it's weird, but has a few neat moments. Not a terribly good film, but kind of memorable in its own way. Bob's character "Alias" was originally intended to play a much more significant role, as was his music, but it got all cut up by the Hollywood people, and bastardized out of all context, so only fragments remained of what could have been. Kristofferson, also, was miscast, I think. They shoulda had someone else play Billy. James Coburn was excellent, as usual.

I like "Dylan and the Dead". I like "Planet Waves". I even like "Real Live". Hell, I even like Self Portrait. But that's me. I love Bob so much I probably would buy a bootleg of him snoring on the bus between Spokane and Yreka...

- LH


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: Superdad
Date: 02 Nov 00 - 11:17 PM

"To live outside the law, you must be Honest"

Bob Dylan


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: RWilhelm
Date: 02 Nov 00 - 06:26 PM

Another to avoid is "Dylan and the Dead." Buy only if you are a hard core fan of both acts and absolutely NEED a complete set of recordings.


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: GUEST,Matt_R
Date: 02 Nov 00 - 04:04 PM

I did it! I got Highway 61 Revisited!


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: Whistle Stop
Date: 02 Nov 00 - 12:43 PM

I used to own the Pat Garrett & Billy the Kid soundtrack. It was mostly instrumental, vaguely Mexican/western sounding stuff -- strumming guitars, the same progressions played over and over and over and over... Probably made sense as a backdrop for some of the scenes in the movie, but it doesn't really amount to much on its own. If you aspire to own everything Dylan ever put out, get it; if not, it's probably one you can do without.


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Subject: RE: Bob Dylan Albums Question
From: catspaw49
Date: 02 Nov 00 - 12:16 PM

The disagreement will arrive shortly, but it a tough call to make on the PG&BtK thing. Which is worse? Movie of soundtrack? Hmmmmmm........Wait until I dig them out fromunder "Plan Nine from Outer Space" and "Yoko Ono's 254 Greatest Hits." Let's see if I can think of a suitable comment...................

BBBBBBRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWMMMMMMMMMPPPPPPPPPPP

Yeah, that's about it.

Spaw


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