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Subject: Long Tale:The Whale I would Like to Meet From: Amos Date: 10 Nov 00 - 02:16 AM Apologies for the length of this post. I will make up for it by posting rarely:
Many of us have been bemused by the legends in folk tale and song of the days when spermaceti ruled the American economy, fortunes were made by wooden ships and iron lances, and whale oil lit the New England evenings. It was brought home from far oceans hundreds of barrels a trip by weathered, hard-hided but bright-eyed men from Nantucket and New Bedford. The fishermen in these towns had learned the trade of the hunt at first from Indians who confined their hunt to whales washed ashore. It is said the first sea-going whaler was a Nantucketer who got blown offshore by mistake while closing on a whale. |
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Subject: RE: Long Tale:The Whale I would Like to Meet From: Lanfranc Date: 10 Nov 00 - 02:13 PM Amos - It might be long, but it is fascinating! Stick around. More of the same, please, at least as far as I'm concerned. |
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Subject: RE: Long Tale:The Whale I would Like to Meet From: Mrrzy Date: 10 Nov 00 - 02:21 PM You guys need to read The World History of the Basque. They were whalers back before whales had been invented...
And, just so you know, I didn't open this thread, I opened the one about The Leviathan! |
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Subject: RE: Long Tale:The Whale I would Like to Meet From: Uncle_DaveO Date: 10 Nov 00 - 02:38 PM Sex and the Single Whale |
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Subject: RE: Long Tale:The Whale I would Like to Meet From: Amos Date: 10 Nov 00 - 02:57 PM The Basques did indeed invent whaling around 1215 or so. But it took the Yanks to make an industry of it. While I do not share the knee-jerk sense of shame for our terrible history as hunters of innocent animules, I think the slaughter of whales should have stopped dead at the turn of the century, when kerosene was finally available industrially and we could no longer justify the use of whale oil to fill basic survival related needs. And I love the image of that one whale getting just mad enough to step up and do something about it. A |
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Subject: RE: Long Tale:The Whale I would Like to Meet From: Amos Date: 10 Nov 00 - 03:52 PM Further research has revealed that Gris did in fact have an archetypal hero of his own species to model himself after -- a grisled veteran sperm whale who dominated the seas around the Pacific island of Mocha, and whose repute was so widespread that harpooners would freeze up when they faced him; he was renowned for attacking whaleboats, although never their mother-ships. His name was Mocha Dick, and it is upon his general form that Moby Dick was modeled in part, the other half being provided by our friend Gris. The whole story of Mocha Dick, vividly told in the language of the whalers of 1810, can be found on this page . Enjoy, you addle-pated lizard-stickers! There she breaches, broad to leeward, with a spout as large as the yards! Regards, Amos |
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Subject: RE: Long Tale:The Whale I would Like to Meet From: jeffp Date: 10 Nov 00 - 04:06 PM Wow, Amos! An incredible tale, well told. BTW, I, too, followed the link from the other thread. I'm glad I did. When are you going to immortalize Gris in song? jeffp |
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Subject: RE: Long Tale:The Whale I would Like to Meet From: GUEST Date: 10 Nov 00 - 09:16 PM Fascinating, especially as I've recently finished reading Moby Dick.
Cheers, |
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Subject: RE: Long Tale:The Whale I would Like to Meet From: GUEST,Barry Finn Date: 11 Nov 00 - 01:04 AM I believe it was Captain Pollard who became the night watchman after he lost his next command, the Two Brothers, Chase & 4 of the other survivors went on to become whaling captains. The last to die as a main dish was Owen Coffin who's Uncle I believe was to rescue some of the whalers. It was latter said of Pollard that he was asked by one of the relatives whom he met in the street if he had known his Uncle to which Pollard replied "Did I know him, hell, man I ate him". Barry |
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Subject: RE: Long Tale:The Whale I would Like to Meet From: Lanfranc Date: 11 Nov 00 - 05:59 AM Does anyone know the tune to the song quoted in "Mocha Dick"? It's a new one to me. |
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Subject: RE: Long Tale:The Whale I would Like to Meet From: Amos Date: 01 Aug 01 - 03:43 PM There's an old saying that it's the pattern that return in the world... once again, in the best tradition of the Essex a whale shows a capital ship who's boss of the seas.... Navy Ship Hits Whale SAN DIEGO, CA - A navy ship was damaged Saturday after it apparently hit a whale. According to the ship's captain Brad Kyker, they were about 10 miles off Del Mar when he reported seeing a water spout ahead just prior to feeling the ship shutter. A small boat was deployed to see if the whale was injured. It was seen spouting again then swimming away. The ship did suffer damage to the hull and was forced to return to port. |
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Subject: RE: Long Tale:The Whale I would Like to Meet From: Amos Date: 20 Nov 08 - 10:21 PM Revisied in 2008: "1820: The whaling ship Essex is rammed and sunk by a sperm whale 2,000 miles off the west coast of South America. The ordeal of the crew inspires Herman Melville's classic, Moby Dick. The Essex was an aging vessel from Nantucket, which at the time possessed the largest whaling fleet in the world. The three-masted ship was 87 feet long and weighed 238 tons. She was captained by George Pollard Jr., at 28 already an experienced whaler. By November 1820 the Essex had been at sea for over a year (three years out was not uncommon), surviving an early knockdown in an Atlantic squall and a rough passage around Cape Horn. Once the ship reached the fertile Pacific whaling grounds, however, things began looking up. If the risks of whaling were many, the rewards could be great. Whale oil was prized as a lighting fuel. A successful voyage could make a captain wealthy, and meant a good payday for the crew as well. The Essex had taken its share of whales and on Nov. 20 appeared ready to take a few more when a pod was sighted off the starboard beam. The ship's three remaining whaleboats — one had been destroyed by a whale's flukes during an earlier hunt — were dispatched for the kill. As the harpooning began, First Mate Owen Chase, commanding one of the whaleboats, looked back and saw a large sperm whale, which he estimated at 85 feet, approaching the Essex. As he watched helplessly, the whale propelled itself into the ship with great force. Some crewmen on board were knocked off their feet by the collision, and Chase watched in disbelief as the whale drew back and rammed the ship again. This time the Essex was holed below the waterline, and doomed. The crew organized what provisions they could and two days later abandoned ship aboard the three whaleboats. Twenty men left the Essex. Eight would ultimately survive the harrowing ordeal that played out over the next three months. Fearing the "cannibalistic savages" of the South Seas islands (the irony of that reasoning will become apparent momentarily), Pollard decided to head for the more distant coastlines of Chile or Peru, first heading south to catch the expected favorable winds. The winds, it turned out, weren't favorable at all, but Pollard was determined to reach South America. Eventually the three boats became separated from one another. One vanished and was never heard from again. The other two, one commanded by Pollard and the other by Chase, thrashed against the elements, and as the provisions dwindled and ran out, men began to die. The first to go were given proper burials at sea, but as food ran out and the survivors on both boats became delirious from hunger, they turned to cannibalism. In Pollard's boat, straws were drawn to see who of the remaining four would be sacrificed so that the other three might survive. Pollard's young cousin, Owen Coffin, drew short straw. He was shot and eaten. Only two men on that boat, Pollard and Charles Ramsdell, were alive when they were rescued by the whaling ship Dauphin after 95 days in an open boat. Chase and the survivors of his boat were picked up after 90 days. Three other men, who had chosen to remain on a small island shortly after the ordeal began, were also rescued. What is known of the details of the ship's ill-fated voyage rests largely on Chase's memoir. He could offer no reason why the whale should attack the ship. But another young Nantucket whaleman, Herman Melville, drew his own conclusions. Moby Dick was a very, very smart whale." Source: BBC |
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