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Lyr Req: lace

GUEST,george 10 Dec 00 - 03:44 PM
Allan C. 10 Dec 00 - 05:19 PM
Jim Dixon 28 Jul 02 - 08:09 PM
GUEST,MCP 13 Jan 03 - 04:50 AM
GUEST,MCP 13 Jan 03 - 09:09 AM
Q (Frank Staplin) 27 Aug 06 - 03:33 PM
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Subject: lace
From: GUEST,george
Date: 10 Dec 00 - 03:44 PM

can anyone please supply the lyrics for any songs about lace making ie bone lace weaver


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: lace
From: Allan C.
Date: 10 Dec 00 - 05:19 PM

george, if you put the word, "lace" in the DigiTrad Lyrics Search box at the top of the page, you'll get quite a list of songs in which it is mentioned. I am in some doubt as to whether any of them actually discuss the MAKING of lace, however. I don't know of any that do. But if you haven't already looked there, it is a good place to start. BTW, I did a search on the word, "tatting" with no useful results.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: lace
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 28 Jul 02 - 08:09 PM

BONE LACE WEAVER, by Leonard Wheatcroft and Roy Harris, was recorded by the Muckram Wakes on "Map of Derbyshire," Trailer LP #LER2085, 1973; and by Grace Notes (Maggie Boyle, Lynda Hardcastle, Helen Hockenhull) on "Anchored to the Time," Fellside CD #FECD163.

I suppose that's Leonard Wheatcroft of Ashover, Darbyshire who was a diarist and a minor 17th-century poet. Here's a sample of his work, a poem about bellringers. And here's an extract from his diary, in which he mentions apprenticing his daughter to a bone-lace weaver.


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Subject: Lyr Add: BONELACE WEAVER'S SONG (L Wheatcroft)
From: GUEST,MCP
Date: 13 Jan 03 - 04:50 AM

I must have missed this before. Here's the song from Roy Palmer's Ballad History Of England

THE BONELACE WEAVERS SONG
Here is myrthe and melody
(Leonard Wheatcroft)

I am a maid new com to towne
 But lounge I will not tarry.
 I have but two years for to stay
 and then I thinke to marry;
  But if a briske younge man com in,
  and that is no decever,
  to corte him then I will begin
  Like a bone-lace weaver.

If that he be a gentellman
 and vowes he'll love me kindly
 then for him I'le doe what I can
 and strive to please him finely.
  Of if he be a yoman good,
  and to me no decever,
  then I will strive to pleas his mood,
  Like a bone-lace weaver.

We get our living with our handes,
 having our wits about us.
 We hope to purches hous & lands,
 tho young men the[y] doe flout us.
  But let them all say what y can
  Wee'l trust no decever,
  Wee'l sing you songs of peg and nan,
  Like a bone-lace weaver.

We keepe out hands both whit and neat,
 our pritty lace to handle,
 We sing our sonits all compleat,
 By daylight or a candell,
  And when out Task we ended have,
  Our Mistris shews such fancy,
  We sport ans sing, that all doth ring,
  O Brave Bone-lace weaver.

And thus we leade most merry lives,
 We heed no young mens saying
 We scorne for to be married wives,
 Wee'l keepe our fingers playing.
  Wee'l weare brave laces on our heads,
  We scorne as yeat a beaver,
  Wee'l worke a pace, Brave flanders lace
  o brave Bone-lace weaver.

(I have left all spelling as printed by Palmer, except that all the letter vs in the abover were printed as u. I think this orthographic change makes it slightly easier to read while not obliterating the original).

Palmer writes: "The song was written in about 1650 by Leonard Wheatcroft, of Ashover in Derbyshire. Apart from writing songs he was village publican, tailor, parish clerk and a combatant in the Civil War - on both sides. No tune was indicated, but there is a modern recording with a tune by Roy Harris (Muckram Wakes, A Map of Derbyshire, Leader LER 2085)."

Palmer's source is given as: MS in the Ashover Parish Records, D253A/PZ11, Derbyshire Records Office

The tune (not given in Palmer) used is (IIRC) virtually the same as the tune for some other song, the title of which I can't remember now. I'll put up the tune as I remember it later.

Mick


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Subject: Tune Add: BONELACE WEAVER'S SONG (L Wheatcroft)
From: GUEST,MCP
Date: 13 Jan 03 - 09:09 AM

And this is the tune as I remember it, but it would be nice if someone could have a listen and try to verify it. I haven't heard it sung for many years.

Mick


X: 1
T:Bonelace Weaver
M:4/4
L:1/8
Q:1/4=75
K:GDor
D|G>A BG FG D
w: I am a maid new com to towne
D|G>A BG FG-G
w: But lounge I will not tar-ry_.
D|G>A BG FG D
w: I have but two years for to stay
D|G>A BG FG-G
w: and then I thinke to mar-ry_;
B|d>d dB A>B c>
w:   But if a briske younge man com in,
A|B>G Gc BA-A
w:   and that is no de-ce-ver_,
D|G>A BG FG D2|
w:   to corte him then I will beg-in
G>A BG FG-G||
w: Like a bone\- lace wea-ver_.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: lace / Bonelace Weaver
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 27 Aug 06 - 03:33 PM

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