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When does 'acoustic' become 'electric'?

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Tattie Bogle 23 Jun 22 - 08:12 PM
Piers Plowman 23 Jun 22 - 09:46 PM
GUEST,Phil d'Conch 24 Jun 22 - 04:24 AM
saulgoldie 24 Jun 22 - 07:42 AM
Bonzo3legs 24 Jun 22 - 07:53 AM
Tattie Bogle 24 Jun 22 - 01:58 PM
Piers Plowman 24 Jun 22 - 02:16 PM
GUEST,Phil d'Conch 24 Jun 22 - 03:27 PM
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Subject: RE: When does 'acoustic' become 'electric'?
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 23 Jun 22 - 08:12 PM

Phil: I’m talking about the literal meaning of the word acoustic; not about me or anyone else, who or when!
This definition agrees with what I understand it to mean:
“ Acoustic music is music that solely or primarily uses instruments that produce sound through acoustic means, as opposed to electric or electronic means”.
This is not to say that I disapprove of using microphones or PA systems to achieve what other posters have described as “balance” : that’s when it ceases to be acoustic music and becomes electric.


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Subject: RE: When does 'acoustic' become 'electric'?
From: Piers Plowman
Date: 23 Jun 22 - 09:46 PM

Life is full of compromises.


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Subject: RE: When does 'acoustic' become 'electric'?
From: GUEST,Phil d'Conch
Date: 24 Jun 22 - 04:24 AM

Tattie: All God's "whos" got definitions. I don't see where yours disagree with science about music production. The human voice produces acoustic energy. An electric guitar does not, needs a transducer, or three or four, before ears can even 'hear' the strings.

But, post-production, it doesn't matter if it's coming at them through a PA, radio or computer speaker, consumers will accept it as "acoustic music" if that's how it was made at the other end... no matter how far apart in time or space that may be.


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Subject: RE: When does 'acoustic' become 'electric'?
From: saulgoldie
Date: 24 Jun 22 - 07:42 AM

My sense of when it is acoustic and when it is electric has already been posted. I don't know what I would add.

But more importantly, to me anyway, is the fact that people are engaged enough to want to discuss it.

Saul


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Subject: RE: When does 'acoustic' become 'electric'?
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 24 Jun 22 - 07:53 AM

Does it matter? Electronics are available to convert an electric guitar signal to that of an acoustic guitar, circuits are out there on the internet.


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Subject: RE: When does 'acoustic' become 'electric'?
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 24 Jun 22 - 01:58 PM

Someone has had a pedant's bypass! Plainly does not understand my simple view.


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Subject: RE: When does 'acoustic' become 'electric'?
From: Piers Plowman
Date: 24 Jun 22 - 02:16 PM

If it's electric, it must have been an impedants bypass.


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Subject: RE: When does 'acoustic' become 'electric'?
From: GUEST,Phil d'Conch
Date: 24 Jun 22 - 03:27 PM

Pedantic point being... you are at the center of your universe but not the universe. Unless you are playing your acoustic guitar alone on a desert island... there will be more than one "view" for every note played.

For the OP's question, it's the perspective of the other person what wrote the advert or liner notes one must learn and accept if one wants to understand what's on offer inside. The last promoter's labels & definitions; and the one next week or year; and one's personal opinion of it all... fairly useless.

"Too loud" same-same. The fine line between MUSIC and NOISE!

'Member when it was a loudspeaker? I 'member. Should have never let 'em put those newfangled electric wind pumps in the church organ. The old pipes just don't speak the same in my view.


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Subject: RE: When does 'acoustic' become 'electric'?
From: Piers Plowman
Date: 24 Jun 22 - 03:39 PM

They never should have put those newfangled organs in the churches in the first place, viz., Thomas Hardy "Under the Greenwood Tree" and the Mellstock Quire.


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Subject: RE: When does 'acoustic' become 'electric'?
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 24 Jun 22 - 04:22 PM

In our old church in Highbury, the electric bellows was barely adequate for the fifty stopsworth of pipes at the best of times (the story behind *that* need not detain us here). Our young organist went through Vidor's Toccata like an express train; when it got to the flat-out ending, the poor organ deflated on the last chord. Full of sound and fury, and signifying EUuuuuu .....


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