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Lyr Req: Jigger in the Bum Boat

GUEST,Bristol Ted 18 Dec 00 - 05:40 PM
Troll 18 Dec 00 - 06:26 PM
Rev 18 Dec 00 - 08:12 PM
paddymac 19 Dec 00 - 12:23 AM
Troll 19 Dec 00 - 12:44 AM
GUEST,Bristol Ted 19 Dec 00 - 04:38 AM
Jimmy C 19 Dec 00 - 08:25 AM
Jim Dixon 20 Dec 10 - 08:59 AM
Charley Noble 20 Dec 10 - 10:41 AM
open mike 20 Dec 10 - 01:46 PM
Q (Frank Staplin) 20 Dec 10 - 03:22 PM
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Subject: Jigger in the Bum Boat
From: GUEST,Bristol Ted
Date: 18 Dec 00 - 05:40 PM

Has anyone heard of this? Collecting songs for a shantie workshop and someone threw this title at me. No ideas on origin so any help appreciated. Thanks.


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Subject: RE: Jigger in the Bum Boat
From: Troll
Date: 18 Dec 00 - 06:26 PM

Bristol Ted. I don't know of the song but I'll bet you that the original title was "Nigger in the Bum Boat" You might have luck looking for it by that title.

troll


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Subject: RE: Jigger in the Bum Boat
From: Rev
Date: 18 Dec 00 - 08:12 PM

There's a song in Stan Hugill's book "Shanties From the Seven Seas" called "the Chinee Bumboatman." That may be what you're thinking of. It's a horribly offensive song by any modern standards of political correctness. I've only heard it sung publicly once, at a sea chantey sing along in San Francisco, and it was met with a great deal of hissing and "tsk tsk."


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Subject: RE: Jigger in the Bum Boat
From: paddymac
Date: 19 Dec 00 - 12:23 AM

Language is a funny thing. I read the thread title and first thought of "jigger" with reference to a shot of whiskey. Wasn't sure what to make of "bum boat." I thought of the east-yank (:>) penchant to use that word for ass, or butt, etc, and had a vision of some little open shuttle boat wherein a passenger might need a bit o' the crature to keep his ass from freezing.

Maybe I'm just unrealistically optimistic about some things. Sadly, I admit that other ideas suggested above might also be plausible.


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Subject: RE: Jigger in the Bum Boat
From: Troll
Date: 19 Dec 00 - 12:44 AM

A bumboat is a small boat that comes out to the large ships at anchor with things to sell or to offer ferry service. It was a good way for locals to make a bit of money.They sold provisions and other wares.

troll


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Subject: RE: Jigger in the Bum Boat
From: GUEST,Bristol Ted
Date: 19 Dec 00 - 04:38 AM

Thanks all for the replies. Much to think about!! I now know the reference apparently came from a book about whaling so that could be another thread.

Bristol Ted


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Subject: RE: Jigger in the Bum Boat
From: Jimmy C
Date: 19 Dec 00 - 08:25 AM

In Newfoundland a "jigger" is used to catch squid. See " The Squid Jigging Ground"
Any small mechanism with ajolting action is called a jigger.

"Some were working their jiggers
While others were yarning
There's some standing up
And there's more lying down
While all kinds of fun
Jokes and tricks are g
As they wait for the squid on the Squid Jiggin grounds
.

Sailors who were very superstitious also had a word "Jinger/Jinker" for someone who brought bad luck ?.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Jigger in the Bum Boat
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 20 Dec 10 - 08:59 AM

JIGGER IN THE BUM BOAT is mentioned in the book Whale Hunt: The Narrative of a Voyage by Nelson Cole Haley (New York: I. Washburn, 1948), page 107—but no lyrics are given there.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Jigger in the Bum Boat
From: Charley Noble
Date: 20 Dec 10 - 10:41 AM

The mystery deepens!

I'll be jiggered!

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Jigger in the Bum Boat
From: open mike
Date: 20 Dec 10 - 01:46 PM

i have a vague recollection of a song similar to this
that we used to sing at camp...and would substitute
different letters to start each word in different
verses....such as digger in the dum doat....
figger in teh fum foat....or some such...
very vague memories from my
far distant youth....
farther distant
every day....


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Jigger in the Bum Boat
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 20 Dec 10 - 03:22 PM

There has been long use of the term 'jigger' by sailors. Several usages by them.

-A small tackle of various kinds. One mentioned for bousing casks close to the ship's side, in print 1847.
-A small sail (stern).
-a small vessel, rigged with a 'jigger' sail
-a small fishing vessel (N. Am., in print in the 1860s).
-a device for catching fish, squid, etc.

Which of these applies in the verse line is uncertain; more lines of the chanty (if there is such) would be helpful, but Bristol Ted, posting in 2000 never came back.


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