Subject: 300 IRISH REBEL SONGS TO TRADE From: LYRIC Date: 19 Dec 00 - 03:23 PM Hello my friends, Can you help me please, i have a collection of over 300 'Irish Rebel Songs' and i want to add more to my collection, i am willing to trade my songs with anyone who wishes to help me, looking forward to hearing from you, slainte, ray. p.s i come from a town in Ireland called 'Tullamore' |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 300 IRISH REBEL SONGS TO TRADE From: Jimmy C Date: 19 Dec 00 - 03:49 PM Lyric. Let us have a listing of your songs. I have an extensive collection, you can see a small number on the thread on Irish Rebel Songbooks. P.S. I'm from up in Co Antrim, but I liked Offaly when I went there, espcially the singing pubs that are all over the place. Love the county hurling and football jersey as well, it would be hard to score against it. Slainte |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 300 IRISH REBEL SONGS TO TRADE From: paddymac Date: 19 Dec 00 - 11:33 PM There are many of us who would like to see what you have in the DT if it isn't already there. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 300 IRISH REBEL SONGS TO TRADE From: MudGuard Date: 20 Dec 00 - 07:23 AM And we'd also like to have some ot the dew from your hometown, Lyric/Ray. Slainte MudGuard (just sipping a Scotch as I do not have TD right here) |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 300 IRISH REBEL SONGS TO TRADE From: LYRIC Date: 21 Dec 00 - 02:15 PM Hi to all, Thank you for responding to my message, i also adore our hurling and football jefsey and have had a few glasses of Tullamore Dew in my day, 'Great Stuff' Anyway's i will leave a list of my songs in this message, you can contact me by e-mail or by this forum, my e-mail is: raycelt@eircom.net 'i look forward to hearing from you all again soon, All the best, slainte, ray. NAME OF SONG WRITTEN BY/BAND CODE
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 300 IRISH REBEL SONGS TO TRADE From: Brendy Date: 21 Dec 00 - 02:27 PM How're ye, Lyric. There is a request from Jed who is looking for a 1916 ballad in this thread: If you recognise it ('cos nobody else does), maybe you could give him a hand out with it. Good on ye! B. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 300 IRISH REBEL SONGS TO TRADE From: Jock Morris Date: 22 Dec 00 - 04:03 AM Both sides the Tweed is a Scottish song, so I don't think it quite counts as an Irish Rebel Song. Scott |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 300 IRISH REBEL SONGS TO TRADE From: Wolfgang Date: 22 Dec 00 - 04:38 AM MMario, that was really helpful! Thanks
LYRIC,
Helicopter song (there are two song with this title and it might be different from the one you have) You can also search the database by entering '@rebel' in the search window (upper right). And then you might like to look here (but perhaps you know this site already)
My wishes: Please post in this forum: If you feel like, you can also post other songs in your list (I'm definitely not the only one interested), but many of them are already either in the DT database or in the Forum. So you could do a search (in the window titled Digitrad and Forum search) before posting a song that has already been posted. Wolfgang |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 300 IRISH REBEL SONGS TO TRADE From: Dave the Gnome Date: 22 Dec 00 - 05:09 AM THREAD CREEP WARNING - but could be important! Sorry about this guys. I love Irish music. I love Ireland. Been there, done that, bought the t-shirt as they say. Even been to Tullamore and sampled the fabulous 'dew'! I'm not sure about Irish Rebel Songs and their place on the DT though. We have had enough controversy about anti-(enter your favourite ethnic group here) songs. Lots of the rebel songs I have heard are very anti-brit. As a brit of mixed race (Polish/Russian/Welsh icluded) but having a grandfather (deceased) who was in the hated (by the Irish) black and tans I could get offended by having my relative called all the names under the sun for simply doing their jobs. Grandad Stanley was a peaceful, loving family man, injured in WW1 and sent to Ireland against his wishes. I don't think I will get offended - I will simply not read or listen to the songs. Some other sensitive soul may be upset though. I am just saying be careful about what you post, who you offend and, primarily, what hatreds you perpetrate. Sorry to be a wet blanket and assuring you I am not anti-anything but war and violence. Peace and best wishes for the season anyway Dave the Gnome |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 300 IRISH REBEL SONGS TO TRADE From: Jimmy C Date: 22 Dec 00 - 09:03 AM Dave, I'm sorry, but all tans were volunteers ?. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 300 IRISH REBEL SONGS TO TRADE From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 22 Dec 00 - 10:43 AM I would not vote for censorship of the DT but it is sad to see so much hate.A peaceful and joyous Christmas to all.Keith |
Subject: Lyr Add: AUF WEIDERSEHEN TO CROSSMAGLEN and more From: LYRIC Date: 22 Dec 00 - 01:27 PM AUF WEIDERSEHEN TO CROSSMAGLEN (Chorus) So auf weidersehen to Crossmaglen Farewell to Carrickmore I have seen enough of Ireland boys And I won't be back for more, no I won't be back for more The recruiting sergeant he told me son Well army life it is fine But he did not mention the mortar bombs Or bloody Claymore mines (Chorus) They told me of the German girls The disco's every night But the only craic in South Armagh Comes from an armalite (Chorus) Well I spent some time on the Toomebridge line Where I thought I'd known no fear Till a van bomb parked outside our base Brought the barracks around my ears (Chorus) So farewell at last to West Belfast To the Markets and the Falls I quickly got the message there It was written on the walls 'BRITS OUT' (Chorus) So all you young lads, though in England you be Signing on the breau Just stay well away from the IRA And they won't bother you (Chorus *2) The Irish Brigade (Written by Gerry O'Glacain) CROSSMAGLEN (Chorus) In Crossmaglen the fire burns true The patriot flame will never die And when you hear the battle cry It will be those fighting men from Crossmaglen I'll sing a song of the bravest men That famous fighting unit from Armagh We are the men from Crossmaglen Among the bravest Ireland's ever saw (Chorus) At night you'd here bazookas roar Armalites are heard across the land The IRA their spirits soar They know their reckoning has come to hand (Chorus) Those British scum, they do fear Will never again see their cursed shore Because the know they will pay dear The RA will even Ireland's bloody score (Chorus) We won't give up until we're free Till Ireland is out of British hands Never rest until we see Britannia rule driven from our land (Chorus) (Written by Reavy) THE LAST FAREWELL Dearest mother I am writing Just to say I won't be home There is something that I have to do And I must do alone They took me and they put me In this lonely prison cell Tonight my thoughts are with you As I say my last farewell (Chorus) So say goodbye to Margaret Mary, Brigid and Michael I have no words to tell you How much I'll miss you all Although I may not show it You know I love you well So in my final letter I will bid my last farewell Dearest brother, won't you take good care Of all the folks for me Go home to Rathfarnham On the day they set you free I was happy when you stood by me In all that we've been through No one has ever had so through A brother such as you (Chorus) Dearest mother it's so very sad That now we have to part To understand the reasons That trouble your poor heart I have told you since I was a boy It was my destiny To die a true brave soldier So that one-day you'd be free (Chorus) (Written by Sean/Frank O'Meara)
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 300 IRISH REBEL SONGS TO TRADE From: LYRIC Date: 22 Dec 00 - 01:44 PM To the forum My collection of 'Irish Rebel Songs' are not meant to offend anyone, i have only posted my songs on the forum to trade with others, who like me love the songs of Ireland, especially the songs of 'Irish Rebellion', 'Irish Rebel Songs', are from the heart, the tell the stories of the Irish people who have suffered over the past 800 years, ie. from Cromwell's men to the butchers of 'The Black And Tans' As i said i wish to offend no one, but my songs stay on the forum, and i will continue to post them, for whovever wants to recive or trade songs with me, I wish you all a peaceful Christmas and a Happy New Year, All the best, slainte, ray. |
Subject: Line Breaks Needed From: Joe Offer Date: 22 Dec 00 - 03:00 PM Hi, Ray - keep posting those songs, but try to remember to put <br> line breaks at the end of each line, so they don't smash all together. I tried fix what you posted, but I'm not sure I did it right. Thanks. -Joe Offer- Line breaks look like this: <br> |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 300 IRISH REBEL SONGS TO TRADE From: widowmaker Date: 23 Dec 00 - 04:55 AM Perhaps you may be able to help this exile I have been trying to find the words and title to a song that I sang years ago in Belfast, the only worrds I can remember are, "They were soldiers everyone, some with pen and some with gun, In the fight for liberty to make this island once more free" hope you can help Slan anois |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 300 IRISH REBEL SONGS TO TRADE From: dick greenhaus Date: 23 Dec 00 - 09:55 AM LYRIC- I may be alone in feeling this way, but I'm somewhat annoyed by the concept of "trading" songs. The DT, which has well over 100 Irish rebel songs, is dedicated to the concept of sharing, not trading. If you post a song here, it goes to everyone. And songs that everyone else posts can go to you. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 300 IRISH REBEL SONGS TO TRADE From: Dave the Gnome Date: 23 Dec 00 - 11:06 AM The 'tans' were not all volunteers, Jimmy. Some, such as my grandad, were recruited specificaly from Salford and Liverpool because of the stong Irish catholic communities there. The reasoning (If you can call it that from british high command!) was that the IRA would not shoot there own. The fact that my grandad was neither Irish or Catholic seems to prove the fact the they got things wrong sometimes;-) Anyhow, Ray, I agree with Joe - keep posting the songs. As I said if they do offend anyone whoever it is can stop reading them. My main point was that it seems a little peculiar to me that it is OK to use the term "British scum" (See above) but not Jewish/Black/Polish/Irish etc etc scum. BTW - I have no issue with Irish rebel songs about the 'old' struggles and agree wholeheartedly that as a nation the Irish have suffered under Britsh rule. The old songs are about people long dead and beyond caring. I have been known to render a passible version of "Roddy McCorly" myself. It is only songs refering to people, still alive or having living releatives, in a heteful or derogatory manner that may offend someone not as thick skinned as me! Cheers and, once again, peace and good wishes to all. Dave the Gnome |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 300 IRISH REBEL SONGS TO TRADE From: Jimmy C Date: 23 Dec 00 - 11:41 AM Widowmaker, I have that song on an LP, by one of Irish Showbands. I will have to do a bit of searching, but will get back to you, Gnome, I would like this thread to stay on the topic of music and songs and I appreciate your feelings, but if the English government did not want the Irish to shoot at the tans, then they should have sent them over without guns. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 300 IRISH REBEL SONGS TO TRADE From: Dave the Gnome Date: 23 Dec 00 - 11:51 AM Hi Jimmy - I agree with the sentiment about no guns but stay on topic??? Come on, when has that ever happened at the 'cat;-) I don't really think the guns thing would have worked BTW. When did not having a armed target stop any gunman from shooting at people. Or when did not having military targets stop any organisation from blowing innocent people? Anyway - I have said my bit and don't want to come across as pro british government - I am far from it - so I will shut up now. Please continue to post and discuss the songs as long as they give pleasure to someone. Cheers DtG |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 300 IRISH REBEL SONGS TO TRADE From: GUEST Date: 23 Dec 00 - 03:34 PM |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 300 IRISH REBEL SONGS TO TRADE From: Jimmy C Date: 23 Dec 00 - 10:32 PM Dave the Gnome, Merry Christmas and a very Happy New year to you. I really mean that. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 300 IRISH REBEL SONGS TO TRADE From: Blackcatter Date: 24 Dec 00 - 01:54 AM Greetings While it does seem that there's a large amount of anti-British sentiment in the song list on Mudcat, remember that were primarily dealing with songs in the English language. That's why there isn't a lot of anti-Franco songs or Korean ditties about the evil Japanese and the such. Unfortunately, the Brits have pissed off the other English speaking locales a bit more than vice-versa. I am of English and German extraction - and I am not offended by negative songs about them (as well as U.S. negative songs, too). I'd bet that the archives of Central American Folk Songs out there, if there are any, are filled with anti-Yankee sentiments. More power to them, regardless if I agree with them or not. Song is a nearly universal form of protest. I agree that people can get upset with things said here, and enouraging people to exercise restraint is a good thing, but until the Irish-British matter is solved, once and for all, there will be 'anti' songs. Anyone who is unhappy with that, should start helping the two sides find more common ground. Pax yall |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 300 IRISH REBEL SONGS TO TRADE From: GUEST Date: 24 Dec 00 - 03:59 AM Have you got the version of "Down by the Liffeyside" with the line "and we'll spike the guns of the Saxon Huns"? All I've been able to find is the politically correct version, not the one I learned as a kid. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 300 IRISH REBEL SONGS TO TRADE From: Jimmy C Date: 24 Dec 00 - 11:40 AM The version I learned as a child had the line "Send them off with guns, against the Free State Huns" |
Subject: 300 IRISH REBEL BALLADS From: LYRIC Date: 28 Dec 00 - 03:35 PM Hi to you all, I have enclosed my collection of 'Irish Rebel Ballads', i would like to share my 'Rebel Ballads' with anyone who would like the lyrics of my songs, Likewise if anyone would like to share their 'Irish Rebel Ballads' with me, they would be well received, I am also looking for the 'Authors' of my 'Rebel Ballads', if anyone could help me out, they can reply to the forum or contact me at my e-mail address raycelt@eircom.net All the best, slainte, ray.
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 300 IRISH REBEL SONGS TO TRADE From: Wolfgang Date: 02 Jan 01 - 05:04 AM Thanks a lot for the three songs, LYRIC. Wolfgang |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 300 IRISH REBEL SONGS TO TRADE From: little john cameron Date: 02 Jan 01 - 04:26 PM Ireland and Scotland have a long history of exploitation by the English.These songs represent the feelings of of anger and disappointment of the Irish for hundreds of years. On the other thread i posted titled SCOTLAND,which i doubt anyone took the time to read,the connection between Scotland and Ireland concerning England can be clearly seen. We,Scotland and Ireland ,are of a different race than the English,unfortunately our close proximity to MOTHER ENGLAND has aggravated this condition.All we ever wanted was to be left alone to follow our own destiny as a separate,but equal,part of the Brotherhood of Man. Those of you who are interest in these songs[Irish and Scottish] and would like to know the history of the relationship between us and them will find a wealth of information regarding our struggle for independance. Having said that,i realise that times have changed mostly for the better but there is still a mind-set regarding the the superiority of our neighbors. That's it,ah'm gaun back tae mah ain Scots tounge noo.Hae a read at baith these posts,ye'll find them tae be a bit o ane eye opener.Then again,wha cares. http://www.ucc.ie/celt/online/T300001.001/ LJC |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 300 IRISH REBEL SONGS TO TRADE From: little john cameron Date: 03 Jan 01 - 11:40 AM Ah wis jist wonderin whit Brendy has tae say aboot this as ah believe he is fae Ulster. ljc |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 300 IRISH REBEL SONGS TO TRADE From: Jimmy C Date: 03 Jan 01 - 11:57 AM In the beginning when God created the universe he went missing for about a week. Upon his return Gabriel asked him where he had been, I just made another planet was the reply. I will call it Earth. Everything on Earth will be balanced, There will be very cold countries and also very hot countries. The cold countries will not be able to grow certains foods during the winters and the hot countries will face drought etc during the summer. All countries will be faced with times of plenty and times of need, Floods and droughts etc. Everything balanced. Gabriel pointed to a little green spot on Earth and asked " What is this called" Ah God replied that is Ireland. Never too hot and never too cold, Green valleys, clear clean rivers, populated by poets, music lovers and good looking women. A climate where almost anything grows. Gabriel asked about the balance . "How come the rest of the planet has good and bad times but this little island everything seems to like paradise, what are tou going to do to balance things?". God answered " Just wait till you see who they will have for neighbours." |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 300 IRISH REBEL SONGS TO TRADE From: Fairy Hill Date: 27 Jan 03 - 12:27 AM I am looking for a complete set of lyrics for Both Sides of the Tweed. I have two partials. One is from another website and has missing words and the other is what I can glean off of a very bad recording I made off the radio some 15 years ago. My recording is of an unknown woman accompanied by an accordiain and what probably is a penny whistle. They apear to be different versions though. The recording has as it's chorus line: "Let the love of our land's sacred rights To the love of our people succeed." The written partial I have goes: "Let the love of our King's sacred rights To the love of our people succeed." What is the history behind this. Other than knowing that the Tweed is a river, I am clueless. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 300 IRISH REBEL SONGS TO TRADE From: Joe Offer Date: 27 Jan 03 - 02:39 AM Hi, Fairy Hill - if you put Tweed in the filter and set the age all the way back, you'll find several discussions of the song. Click here for the lyrics and tune of "Both Sides the Tweed" in our Digital Tradition folk song database. All the best to you. -Joe Offer- Search for "Tweed" threads |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 300 IRISH REBEL SONGS TO TRADE From: GUEST Date: 10 Aug 03 - 09:34 AM looking for the lyrics to the black and tan gun please help hashbrowne2002@yahoo.com Reply to this request is here (click) -Joe Offer (e-mail sent)- |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 300 IRISH REBEL SONGS TO TRADE From: GUEST,omon Date: 19 Aug 10 - 10:52 AM Could anyone help me - i am searching for the lyrics of 'putting on the style' - celtic fc version ???
Thanks. -Joe Offer, Forum Moderator- |
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