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Does anyone know? What is Figgy Pudding?
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Subject: RE: Does anyone know? What is Figgy Pudding? From: GUEST,henryp Date: 24 Nov 22 - 09:34 AM Hard sauce; it's all to do with alcohol. In North America, the term hard liquor is often used to distinguish distilled alcoholic drinks from non-distilled ones, whereas the term spirits is used in the UK. So brandy butter is known as hard sauce in North America. Rum butter is an alternative, certainly in England. And apple juice is often called cider in North America, where fermented apple juice is called hard cider. In the UK, cider refers to fermented apple juice, called cidre in France. While sweet apple juice comes from dessert apples, traditional cider is made from bittersharp and bittersweet cider apples. Soft drinks are the alternative to hard drinks. 'The term soft drink was originated to distinguish the flavoured drinks from hard liquor, or distilled spirits. Soft drinks were recommended as a substitute in the effort to change the hard-drinking habits of early Americans.' Britannica |
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Subject: RE: Does anyone know? What is Figgy Pudding? From: Joe Offer Date: 23 Nov 22 - 11:04 PM I couldn't resist. Amazon had two 12-ounce cans for $9.99. My order is due for delivery November 30. I'll have a report. |
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Subject: RE: Does anyone know? What is Figgy Pudding? From: Jack Campin Date: 23 Nov 22 - 05:23 PM Spam Figgy Pudding |
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Subject: RE: Does anyone know? What is Figgy Pudding? From: GUEST, topsie Date: 09 Jan 11 - 10:10 AM I was going to add 'And what the hell is "hard sauce"' but following a search in the database I find that it is what I know as 'brandy butter', or butter icing with a bit of rum, brandy and/or cream added. Why it is described as 'hard' I have no idea. |
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Subject: RE: Does anyone know? What is Figgy Pudding? From: GUEST,Jim Martin Date: 09 Jan 11 - 09:04 AM There used to be a folk-rock group around in the 90's called "Figgy Duff" who used to tour around the UK: http://www.ambermusic.ca/artist_figgyduff.htm |
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Subject: RE: Does anyone know? What is Figgy Pudding? From: Joe_F Date: 23 Dec 10 - 07:10 PM Don: Hear, hear! |
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Subject: RE: Does anyone know? What is Figgy Pudding? From: GUEST,Ian Gill Date: 23 Dec 10 - 07:07 PM Don't care for it myself but does anyone remember a band called Figgy Duff ? From Canada, I think. Supported them a long time ago - superb band and very nice people, too. Are they still around ? |
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Subject: RE: Does anyone know? What is Figgy Pudding? From: Don Firth Date: 23 Dec 10 - 05:48 PM What's all this animosity toward fruitcake that's developed over the past few decades!?? I grew up with all kinds of goodies and munchables associated with Christmas, one of which was fruitcake. We kids loved it and scarfed it down with great glee. Yet, within recent years, fruitcake has come to be the butt of all kinds of rude humor and general slanders. I don't get it! Tell you what: If you wind up with a fruitcake you don't want, PM me. I'll gladly take it off your hands. Yum!! Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: Does anyone know? What is Figgy Pudding? From: Genie Date: 23 Dec 10 - 04:50 PM Between the verses "We all want some figgy pudding ... " and "We won't go until we get some ..." I usually insert the verse, "What the heck is figgy pudding?" |
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Subject: RE: Does anyone know? What is Figgy Pudding? From: giles earle Date: 23 Dec 10 - 03:56 PM Elizabeth David (English Bread and Yeast Cookery, publ. 1977) confirms Joe F's post about the figs/figgys in old Cornish and West Country recipes (and the plums/plumbs of plum cake and pudding) being raisins or currants. |
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Subject: RE: Does anyone know? What is Figgy Pudding? From: Midchuck Date: 23 Dec 10 - 03:23 PM Just sing, "We want some frigging pudding," and forget the whole thing. Peter |
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Subject: RE: Does anyone know? What is Figgy Pudding? From: GUEST,Eliza Date: 23 Dec 10 - 12:06 PM Micca, I laughed like anything about "We won't go until we've got some" referring to its laxative properties! I shall never sing it again without smiling at your idea! |
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Subject: RE: Does anyone know? What is Figgy Pudding? From: Hollowfox Date: 22 Dec 10 - 10:06 PM I use my electric skillet to steam puddings. It's one of the few things I use it for, but it's really easy to check the water level and so on. I use one of those vegetable steamer things that open up like a flower for steaming in a pot and folds up for storage, to hold the pudding out of the water. Here's my family recipe for plum pudding: 1/2 cup sugar 1/2 cup flour 2 teaspoons baking powder, or a pinch more 1 1/2 cups suet, coarsely chopped (this helps to find and remove the connecting membranes) 1 1/2 cups TOTAL of raisins, nuts and what-you-will 1 small shake salt Enough water to hold together. Tie loosely in cheesecloth or white muslin. Steam slowly at a low temperature on a trivet until it is bready, darkened, and the fruit sticks out. SAUCE: The pudding drippings, flour-and-water, butter, and sugar. This will be a bit thin, but tasty. My mother served this every Thanksgiving, and my paternal grandmother always asked for the recipe. My mother never gave it, because her mother-in-law would probably have turned green at the thought of eating suet. I don't know about this, my grandmother knew that lard made the best pie crusts, but there you have it. And now for another pudding recipe, from A Vermont Cookbook, by Vermont Cooks, first edition, 1946 Steamed Thrift Pudding 2 cups bread crumbs 1 cup molasses 1 cup hot water 1 cup flour 1 cup raisins 1 whole egg 1 teaspoon each baking soda, cloves, and cinnamon 1 Tablespoon shortening Sift soda and spices with flour. Pour molasses and hot water over crumbs and let stand until cool. Add other ingredients and stir well. Put into a greased tubed pan or pound tin cans (I use a loaf pan) and steam three hours. Serve with any hot sauce (sic)(you know we're not talking habaneros here, so stop giggling), or a hard sauce. This tastes like a dark, rich gingerbread, and can be sliced and eaten cold, as well as warm with sauce. |
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Subject: RE: Does anyone know? What is Figgy Pudding? From: open mike Date: 22 Dec 10 - 09:45 PM i used to make "boston brown bread" which was steamed in cans in the pressure cooker...It had chopped figs in it..and sour milk and molasses it works best with cans that do no have ridges in them...smooth cans are easier to get the finished bread out of... |
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Subject: RE: Does anyone know? What is Figgy Pudding? From: Desert Dancer Date: 22 Dec 10 - 08:24 PM (Note that Joe Offer refreshed this after 10 years with a musical query...) |
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Subject: RE: Does anyone know? What is Figgy Pudding? From: Amos Date: 22 Dec 10 - 06:28 PM figgy pudding From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Wikibooks Cookbook has a recipe/module on Figgy PuddingA figgy pudding with flaming brandy Figgy pudding is a pudding resembling something like a white Christmas pudding containing figs. The pudding may be baked, steamed in the oven, boiled or fried.[1] The history of figgy pudding dates back to 16th century England.[2] Its possible ancestors include savory puddings such as crustades, fygeye or figge (a potage of mashed figs thickened with bread), creme boiled (a kind of stirred custard), and sippets. In any case, its methods and ingredients appear in diverse older recipes. Today, the term figgy pudding is known mainly because of the Christmas carol "We Wish You A Merry Christmas," which repeats, "Now bring us some figgy pudding" in the chorus, indicating that it was a Christmas traditional dish served during the season and thus might potentially be given to Christmas carolers. [edit] References 1. ^ "We All Want Figgy Pudding When the Weather Turns Cold". St. Petersburg Times. 1976-11-18. http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=WxoMAAAAIBAJ&sjid=h10DAAAAIBAJ&pg=4914,1699049&dq=figgy+pudding. Retrieved 2009-06-21. 2. ^ "Figgy Pudding's Welcome Christmas Return". Telegraph.co.uk. 2008-12-12. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/3726511/Figgy-puddings-welcome-Christmas-return.html. Retrieved 2009-06-21. |
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Subject: RE: Does anyone know? What is Figgy Pudding? From: The Doctor Date: 22 Dec 10 - 06:25 PM 'We singers make bold' appears in The Joy of Christmas, Worrall Male Voice Choir, and the note says simply: 'Closely associated with the Mount family. Different versions widespread throughout the country.' It is also on the Leader recording A People's Carol, which has a cover photo of the Mount family carol party. The specific note here says: 'This carol is found in other parts of the country and is quite distinct from the 'figgy pudding' or the 'pocketful of money' versions. It has always been a great favourite locally for it occurs in many of the older manuscript books and is frequently mentioned in the newspaper accounts.' There is also mention of 'the elaborate five volumes that had once belonged to the Mount family of Worrall'. I also remember English Tapestry singing it, albeit briefly. |
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Subject: RE: Does anyone know? What is Figgy Pudding? From: Joe_F Date: 22 Dec 10 - 06:01 PM According to the OED, figgy pudding does not contain figs. "Figgy pudding" is a dialect name for Christmas pudding, in a dialect in which "fig" meant raisin. Likewise, "plum pudding" is another dialect name for Christmas pudding, in a dialect in which "plum" meant raisin; and (of course) Christmas pudding does not contain plums either. I was going to try to make Christmas pudding this year, and researched the matter, with the above results, as well as the fact that I would need to get hold of suet somewhere (nontrivial in the US), as well as invest in the equipment for large-scale steaming. So I gave up; it's fruitcake again this Christmas. At least I can make my own hard sauce. |
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Subject: ADD: We Wish You a Merry Christmas (no figs) From: Joe Offer Date: 22 Dec 10 - 03:01 AM In his A Folk Song a Day project, Jon Boden's song for December 18 is "we Wish You a Merry Christmas. His lyrics are different from the "figgy pudding" song: WE WISH YOU A MERRY CHRISTMAS We singers make bold, as in days of old, To celebrate Christmas and bring you good cheer. Glad tidings I bring of Messiah, our King, So we wish you a merry Christmas, So we wish you a merry Christmas, So we wish you a merry Christmas and a happy New Year! The shepherds amazed, as upwards they gazed, Behold! Holy angels to them drawing near, Singing "Goodwill to men!" as onwards they came, So we wish you a merry Christmas, So we wish you a merry Christmas, So we wish you a merry Christmas and a happy New Year! Lets join heart and hand to keep God's command, By loving to serve Him throughout the New Year. In an innocent way we'll be happy today, So we wish you a merry Christmas, So we wish you a merry Christmas, So we wish you a merry Christmas and a happy New Year! So we wish you a merry Christmas, So we wish you a merry Christmas, So we wish you a merry Christmas and a happy New Year! Does anybody know anything about the origins of these two very different versions of the song? -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does anyone know?What is Figgy Pudding? From: MMario Date: 22 Dec 00 - 09:35 PM Not a figgy pudding, but I have a molasses cranberry nut pudding in the steamer right now. Old recipe from my Mom's side of the family. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does anyone know?What is Figgy Pudding? From: Ebbie Date: 22 Dec 00 - 08:54 PM Talk about synchronicity - or maybe the the comic strip author is a secret Mudcatter?? Today's 'The Grizzwells' comic strip has this sequence:
Child: Mama, I'm not a kid anymore and I want to ask you something about Christmas Ebbie |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does anyone know?What is Figgy Pudding? From: GUEST,late 'n short Date: 22 Dec 00 - 07:23 PM If there's a choice here, I'll opt for the "bishop" and leave more of the "figgy" for the other folks. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does anyone know?What is Figgy Pudding? From: GUEST,Les B Date: 22 Dec 00 - 03:17 PM So I take it Figgy Pudding has no Vegemite in it !?! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does anyone know?What is Figgy Pudding? From: Pelrad Date: 21 Dec 00 - 11:05 PM I had plum duff made right once, (someone followed a recipe from a 19th-century whaling journal but with FRESH ingredients and no boll weevils) it was fantastic. If figgy pudding comes out anything like it, it'll be loverly. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does anyone know?What is Figgy Pudding? From: Tinker Date: 21 Dec 00 - 11:04 PM Now the Smoking Bishop has some real possibilities.... Thanks Mario, I've actually got a Bishop in mind to serve this to.... Tinker |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does anyone know?What is Figgy Pudding? From: GUEST,Penny S. (not at home) Date: 21 Dec 00 - 03:16 PM You can steam it in a steamer (a perforated top section which sits on a saucepan, and has a lid), or any saucepan, with a trivet to hold it off the bottom, and the water coming halfway up the basin, or in a slow cooker. Penny |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does anyone know?What is Figgy Pudding? From: SDShad Date: 21 Dec 00 - 02:45 PM Thanks, MMario! Sounds splendid. Must try it some time. Chris |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does anyone know?What is Figgy Pudding? From: Alice Date: 21 Dec 00 - 02:15 PM Here's a practical question anyone may ask who wants to follow the Figgy Pudding recipe: What is the best way to steam it? Do you have to use a special kind of steaming pot, or could you just lower it into a big stock pot? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does anyone know?What is Figgy Pudding? From: GUEST,Becky Date: 21 Dec 00 - 02:13 PM In recent years I acquired my (American - New York state) grandmother's recipe for figgy pudding. It's much plainer than the one listed above, and non-alcoholic. (It would be easy to re-incorporate the alcohol into the recipe. I suspect it was deleted in the 20th century.) The final product is just very rich on its own, crumbly, and crunchy from the fig seeds. I like it with a lemon sauce, but there are other recommendations (see below).
Fill greased mold(s) 2/3 full, cover and seal (I used foil and string -- the handle point's a good one that I didn't have!). Steam for 4 hours. (That's over, not in boiling water.) Release steam a few minutes before unmolding. Serve warm with lemon sauce, custard sauce, ice cream, or whipped cream.
For a late 20th/early 21st century variation, you can cook it in the microwave: covered with plastic wrap, pierced, and cook for 8 minutes at medium high (1000 watt oven) worked for half the recipe. It comes out pale, instead of dark, but pretty comparable in consistency.
~ Becky in Tucson |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does anyone know?What is Figgy Pudding? From: Jimmy C Date: 21 Dec 00 - 01:02 PM CHRISTMAS FRUITCAKE RECIPE --------------------------- You'll need the following: 1 C water 1 tsp. baking soda 1 C sugar 1 C brown sugar 4 large eggs lemon juice 2 C dried fruit nuts 1 tsp. salt 1 FULL bottle of your favorite whiskey > > Sample the whiskey to check for quality. About 1/2cup of whiskey would be a good sample Take a large bowl. Check the whiskey again to be sure that it is of the highest quality. Repeat. Turn on the electric mixer. Beat 1 C of butter in a large fluffy bowl. Add 1 tsp. sugar and beat again. Make sure the whiskey is still okay, by having another drink Cry another tup. Turn off the mixer. Break two legs and add to the bowl and chuck in the cup of dried fruit. Mix on the turner. If the fried druit gets stuck in the beaterers,pry it loose with a drewscriver. Have another sup of whiskey to check for tonsisticity. Next, sift 2 cups of salt. Or something. Who cares. Check the whiskey again. Now sift the lemon juice and strain your nuts. Add one table. Spoon. Of sugar or something. Whatever you can find. Grease the oven. Turn the cake tin to 350 degrees. Don't forget to beat off the turner. Throw the bowl out the window. Check the whiskey again. Go to bed. Who the heck likes fruitcake anyway??!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does anyone know?What is Figgy Pudding? From: Micca Date: 21 Dec 00 - 12:49 PM "We wont't go until we get some.... Why??" probably because of the laxative properties of figs***BG*** you would certainly "go" afterwards... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does anyone know?What is Figgy Pudding? From: MMario Date: 21 Dec 00 - 12:38 PM Recipe for "A Smoking Bishop" Taken from "Drinking With Dickens", published in the US by New Amersterdam Books, NY 'Port was the base for a number of drinks: "we will discuss your affairs this very afternoon, over a Christmas bowl of smoking bishop." Bishop seems to have been a very popular drink, and no wonder. I discovered it many years ago and it quickly became a traditional winter party drink. Not only is its taste exquisite, but equally its medicinal qualities are great. You can feel it doing good. Temperatures go up, from the top of the head (bald heads turn red) right down to the toes.' A Smoking BishopIngredients For an American version5 sweet oranges 1 old fashioned grapefruit 1/4 lb sugar or to taste 2 bottles cheap strong red wine 1 bottle ruby port cloves How It's Done Bake the oranges and grapefruit in the oven until they are pale brown and then put them into a warmed earthenware bowl with five cloves pricked into each. Add the sugar and pour in the wine - not the port. Cover and leave in a warm place for about a day. Squeeze the oranges and grapefruit into the wine and pour it through a sieve. Add the port and heat, but do not boil. Serve in warmed goblets and drink hot. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does anyone know?What is Figgy Pudding? From: SDShad Date: 21 Dec 00 - 12:19 PM Okay, so this is thread creep, but while we're on such subjects, what the hell is "smoking bishop?" As in: "A merry Christmas, Bob," said Scrooge, with an earnestness that could not be mistaken, as he clapped him on the back. "A merrier Christmas, Bob, my good fellow, than I have given you for many a year. I'll raise your salary, and endeavour to assist your struggling family, and we will discuss your affairs this very afternoon, over a Christmas bowl of smoking bishop, Bob. Make up the fires, and buy another coal-scuttle before you dot another i, Bob Cratchit!" Among the cast and crew of our church/community production of A Christmas Carol this year, we were wondering, but had no good answers.... Chris |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does anyone know?What is Figgy Pudding? From: MMario Date: 21 Dec 00 - 09:20 AM steaming and baking will give very different results, even when the mix is the same. I have a recipe that calls for either, which I usually steam. baked it once because my steamer was in use...was okay - but just not the same. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does anyone know?What is Figgy Pudding? From: Margaret V Date: 21 Dec 00 - 08:27 AM I made figgy pudding for Christmas about ten years ago, following a recipe in Verity Isitt's "Take a Buttock of Beefe" (not a book I would recommend, as she purports to offer original 17th century recipes paired with their modern equivalents but is ridiculously loose in her idea of an equivalent). It didn't include breadcrumbs in the mix, but it was covered with a simple pastry crust. It was pretty dreadful... LTS is quite right about the "sharpness" of it. Of course, I'm not a very good cook, and I may have gone a bit heavy on the brandy. Come to think of it, I may have decided it would be a good way to use up some grappa I'd been given.... Oh, keep me out of the kitchen!!! Margaret |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does anyone know?What is Figgy Pudding? From: GUEST,Zip Date: 21 Dec 00 - 07:31 AM Normally I don't give a fi.....about pudding,but what a great recipe this is.Not only do you get to bake a cake, you also get down with some DIY and a basin.Not to mention social history etc. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does anyone know?What is Figgy Pudding? From: GeorgeH Date: 21 Dec 00 - 06:19 AM To add to Liz's comprehensive notes . . surely the fact that Figgy Pudding is a steamed pudding while fruitcake is baked is also significant . . (well, it seems to make a difference in our kitchen . .) G |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does anyone know?What is Figgy Pudding? From: Liz the Squeak Date: 21 Dec 00 - 06:12 AM Fruit cake uses different fruits; raisins, sultanas and cherries, and is a harder texture and drier. Figgy pudding is more moist and has a sharper taste, due to the apples and brandy. It's also about 500yrs older, which is why it stipulates whole meal (brown) flour and breadcrumbs. Only the very rich got to eat white flour, the lower orders got the nice brown flour, the lowest got the bits with all the husks, grit and stuff in, which is why they knackered their teeth early in life. There, where else could you get cookery and social history in one posting? LTS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does anyone know?What is Figgy Pudding? From: roopoo Date: 21 Dec 00 - 02:19 AM I suspect that "wm" is wholemeal, folks! Andrea |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does anyone know?What is Figgy Pudding? From: Joe Offer Date: 21 Dec 00 - 02:09 AM Hey, what's the difference between that and fruitcake? Sounds like it would taste just about the same. -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does anyone know?What is Figgy Pudding? From: Ebbie Date: 21 Dec 00 - 02:03 AM Could 'wm' refer to 'white meal' flour? Just guessing. Ebbie |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does anyone know?What is Figgy Pudding? From: Alice Date: 21 Dec 00 - 12:23 AM I don't know about the wm, rabitrunning,.... I just copied it off of one of the many recipe websites I found. Maybe it is a typo? Someone more enlightened may enlighten us. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does anyone know?What is Figgy Pudding? From: Tinker Date: 21 Dec 00 - 12:02 AM Thanks, perhaps the kids and I will take it on as a vacation project .... Tinker |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does anyone know?What is Figgy Pudding? From: rabbitrunning Date: 20 Dec 00 - 11:49 PM What does the "wm" stand for in front of the flour and breadcrumbs? "Warm?" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does anyone know?What is Figgy Pudding? From: Sorcha Date: 20 Dec 00 - 11:24 PM What did I tell ya? *BG* With whipped cream or hard sauce on top........ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does anyone know?What is Figgy Pudding? From: Alice Date: 20 Dec 00 - 11:22 PM Figgy Pudding 225g dried figs 50g candied peel,chopped 125ml brandy 1 small cooking apple 1 medium ccoking apple 50g fresh wm.breadcrumbs 50g wm.flour 1 tsp cinnamon 1/4 nutmeg, grated grated rind and juice of 1 lemon 2 eggs , beaten butter for greasing a 11/2 pint-850ml pudding basin
Chop the figs and place them in a bowl with the peel, pour the brandy over the fruit and leave to soak over night peel and grate the apple, also grate the carrot , mix both with the soaked figs , mix the breadcrumbs and flour in a mixing bowl , add the cinnamon, nutmeg and lemon rind. add the fig mix , lemon juice eggs and mix well . put the mix into the pudding basin and cover with grease proof paper and foil, tie a cotton string around the basin and make a handle for easy lifting. steam for 3 hours (the recipe is on many websites on the internet) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does anyone know?What is Figgy Pudding? From: Seamus Kennedy Date: 20 Dec 00 - 11:22 PM Very close to plum duff. Seamus |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does anyone know?What is Figgy Pudding? From: Sorcha Date: 20 Dec 00 - 11:11 PM I don't "know", but I always assumed it was a plum pudding/fruitcake thingie with figs in it........like fig bars......... |
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Subject: Does anyone know?What is Figgy Pudding? From: Tinker Date: 20 Dec 00 - 10:57 PM My voice teacher asked me this question today and I had to admitt I've sung it for years and have no idea what figgy pudding is! Best we could come up with was Probably British and perhaps steamed??? HELP! So bring us some figgy pudding, So Bring us some figgy pudding, So bring us some figgy pudding, And bring it out here.... We wont't go until we get some.... Why?? Tinker |
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