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Tune Req: four post bed / Four Poster Bed

Roger in Sheffield 25 Dec 00 - 02:47 PM
Chanteyranger 25 Dec 00 - 03:19 PM
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Jon Freeman 25 Dec 00 - 03:57 PM
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Subject: four post bed
From: Roger in Sheffield
Date: 25 Dec 00 - 02:47 PM

can anyone help? I keep on hearing a tune in the pub and someone called it "four post bed", it sounded like Dingle Regatta to me (but I was a wee bit drunk)
I just wanted the music to practise it

Roger


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: four post bed
From: Chanteyranger
Date: 25 Dec 00 - 03:19 PM

The Four Poster Bed. Try J.C.'s Tunefinder. It's best to play it on a fiddle you don't mind messing up! (B part - tapping the fiddle with the bow)


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: four post bed
From: Roger in Sheffield
Date: 25 Dec 00 - 03:42 PM

Tried that before posting Chanteyranger but J.C.'s don't seem to have it, unless it has another name too???

Roger


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: four post bed
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 25 Dec 00 - 03:57 PM

Plenty of them at JC's - try this. I don't know the first tune (2 entries that this search gives).

Jon


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: four post bed
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 25 Dec 00 - 04:09 PM

Note from  The Fiddler's Companion:

"FOUR POSTER BED, THE.  AKA and see "Four Corners of St. Malo," "Four Corners Reel," "Four Posts of the Bed," "Les Quatre Coins du Lit," "Les Quat' Coins de St Malo." English, Scottish, Irish, Shetlands; Polka, Reel or 'Programme Piece'.  Ireland, Donegal. D Major. Standard. ABB (Phillips): AABB (Martin).  This tune's 'B' part dramatizes the four poster bed by giving four taps with the frog-end of the bow on each of the four quarters of the belly of the fiddle, interspersed by a right-hand pizzicato.  The melody is popular in the Shetlands, though probably not of Shetland origin admits Cooke.  On an early recording made for Comhaltas, Donegal fiddler John Doherty relates the story of "The Fours Posts of the Bed" and then plays the tune.  His story tells of an itinerant fiddle player who finds refuge for the night in a cottage which lacks a bed for him.  Not wanting to be inhospitable, the man of the house fashions a bed, and in return the fiddler composes a tune to thank him.  Under the title "The Four Corners of St. Malo" the melody was recorded for Philo by French-Canadian fiddler Henri Landry.  As has been noted by any fiddler who attempts to play this tune in the traditional manner, tapping the metal end of the frog on the belly of the violin often produces nicks and dings in the wood.  To prevent this damage fiddlers in Donegal shout in Gaelic "Aon, do, tri, ceathair" (one, two, three, four) as the tap the four corners of the violin with their bow in the vertical but with the fleshy part of their middle finger covering the end of the frog."

I had a phase of playing this one some years ago, and with a little practice was able to tap the bow on a nearby table instead of on the fiddle; the pizzicato bit can just as easily be done with the left hand.

Malcolm


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: four post bed
From: Roger in Sheffield
Date: 25 Dec 00 - 04:15 PM

thanks Jon, why wouldn't it work for me?
though I did put the word 'Four' in, seperated from 'poster'
Anyway thanks for that I will print it off and have a go
Hope you are having a good christmas......Cheers

roger


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: four post bed
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 25 Dec 00 - 04:23 PM

Sometimes it seems to be a matter of trial and error combined with a little patience to get search results you want. In this instance my first attempt, "poster bed", worked.

Jon


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: four post bed
From: Roger in Sheffield
Date: 25 Dec 00 - 05:29 PM

Thanks Malcolm that explains about everything, one night I did see a fiddle player tapping the four 'corners' of his instrument very gently while other instrument players said the words instead

Roger


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: four post bed
From: Son of the Mill
Date: 29 Dec 00 - 10:37 PM

I had the great pleasure many moons ago to see The Dubliners in person at The Poles Apart Folk Club in Newmarket, Auckland New Zealand. John their violin player played the 4 poster bed. Then a very talented Coleen Bain went to the stage & they played together. John was thrilled & disapointed. He had practiced so hard & she had listened, then played the tune.She was a member of the Hamilton County Bluegrass Band.To see & hear these briliant artists performing together in a room 20 x 20 foot room was magic.It is sad that Luke Kelly is nolonger with us, but I can still hear his voice, when the club members tried to sing along C.Burke. The tune was Somertime,a club favorite then this great voice rung out "ONE MAN ONE DOG" We all shut up & listened.To get the tune buy a Dubliners CD & listen to the master. Cheers Mal


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: four post bed
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 27 Nov 09 - 09:24 AM

I have always enjoyed this tune, even though posts above suggest it has been played a lot. Bags of information from the late Malcolm - as detailed and as fascinating as he always was.

Got the dots from The Session website. I have seen fiddles tapping around the belly and squeezers using the air hole. Any suggestions for I could do with the tenor banjo?

Yes I know, I know ...................... manners and self discipline please

L in C


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: four post bed
From: Will Fly
Date: 27 Nov 09 - 11:49 AM

~Les - I used to play this on tenor banjo (many years ago). I did the four-poster bit by tapping sharply with the nails of the right hand on the vellum.

One of the finest versions of this in on Swarb and Carthy's "Rags, Reels & Airs" album, if memory serves.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: four post bed
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 27 Nov 09 - 11:56 AM

Thanks will I will try that

L in C


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: four post bed
From: Little Robyn
Date: 27 Nov 09 - 01:50 PM

Colleen used to flick the top string with the ring finger of her left hand and I believe she had a bit of rubber stuck to the frog of her bow so it wouldn't scratch the top of her violin.
Leo Ready played it too and I never saw any scratches on his fiddle so maybe he had something on the end of his bow too.
If you are wearing finger picks, they would work just as well for your right hand and the left hand bit is easy.
Robyn


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: four post bed
From: Gurney
Date: 27 Nov 09 - 02:15 PM

Eddie of the Furey Brothers had it as one of his 'standards' many years ago. I think he had a bit of rubber tube on his bow for the 'posts.'


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