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First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow

Naemanson 13 Jan 01 - 05:03 PM
CarolC 13 Jan 01 - 09:26 AM
Mooh 13 Jan 01 - 07:57 AM
Bristol Ted 13 Jan 01 - 05:33 AM
SINSULL 12 Jan 01 - 11:28 AM
annamill 12 Jan 01 - 09:26 AM
Bert 11 Jan 01 - 04:14 PM
Pseudolus 11 Jan 01 - 03:26 PM
Bert 11 Jan 01 - 03:14 PM
Naemanson 11 Jan 01 - 02:41 PM
annamill 11 Jan 01 - 12:11 PM
Naemanson 11 Jan 01 - 11:38 AM
Susan A-R 10 Jan 01 - 11:33 PM
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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: Naemanson
Date: 13 Jan 01 - 05:03 PM

The thread has been continued here.


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: CarolC
Date: 13 Jan 01 - 09:26 AM

M.Ted,

If you are serious about wanting to perform the kind of stuff you have described here in Shepherdstown, you'll probably want to get in touch with Andrew McKnight. He does the "Shenandoah Coffee House Series", which is the main venue for folky-folk kinds of stuff (as opposed to traditional or derivations on traditional stuff).

His address is:

Andrew McKnight
c/o Shenandoah Coffee House Series
P.O. Box 481
Aldie, VA 20105.

His concerts/coffee houses are generally very well attended. Performers have come from as far away as Maine.

Carol


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: Mooh
Date: 13 Jan 01 - 07:57 AM

Somehow this thread has eluded me until this morning. As far as I know I'm the only performing Mudcatter for miles around but there's a healthy folk audience around here and this idea would work if I brought some band members along for the ride...unless other mudcatters will come as far as Huron County to play...Good halls here too. I'd go anywhere in southern Ontario to play. Mooh.


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: Bristol Ted
Date: 13 Jan 01 - 05:33 AM

So, where are all the UK Catters??

I am involved with a small club on the outskirts of Bristol, UK. This realy sounds good and if we can involve the home country then don't forget we're here.

Reading the earlier messages, I'm also interested in the House Concert process. I haven't come across this before and it sounds a good way of organising a tour. Has anyone ever tried this in the UK?

Please let me know.

TaTa

Ted


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: SINSULL
Date: 12 Jan 01 - 11:28 AM

What can I bring besides myself?


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: annamill
Date: 12 Jan 01 - 09:26 AM

OK, when? How about February 10th? It's a Saturday. People could come Friday night if they'ed like to. I'll make sure we have plenty of fodd and drink and fire wood. I miss you guys! I'll start a new thread so this doesn't interfere with our Roadshow.

Love, annamill


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: Bert
Date: 11 Jan 01 - 04:14 PM

Of course, it would be open to all Mudcatters, that's the only way to test the water properly.


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: Pseudolus
Date: 11 Jan 01 - 03:26 PM

A dry run would be nice, especially if it included us Wilmingtonians!! wink, wink, nudge, nudge........

Frank


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: Bert
Date: 11 Jan 01 - 03:14 PM

Hey Annamill, If they won't start sooner, we could always have a practice 'dry run' at your place. Just to make sure nothing goes wrong on the day of course;-)


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: Naemanson
Date: 11 Jan 01 - 02:41 PM

No, but some people maintain a s**t list. I don't do it but I've heard of others who have.


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: annamill
Date: 11 Jan 01 - 12:11 PM

Is there a bad list?

Love, annamill


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: Naemanson
Date: 11 Jan 01 - 11:38 AM

OK Susan, you are on my list (The good list!) for hosting a concert. You live close enough that I might even be able to get out there.

I will start a new thread (Part 2) which will start by listing the people who want to sponsor concerts and those who want to perform. There will also be a list of those offering accomodations for any who want to travel to participate. I know a few who are dedicated (foolish? *G*) enough to go to any lengths to be at a gathering.


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: Susan A-R
Date: 10 Jan 01 - 11:33 PM

Naemenson, as I said earlier, we have a living rooom which seats 30 people, and could host a concert. I may be able to do better than that and get LiveArt to sponsor it. We also have room to host 1 or two performers. WE also have access to a couple of mailing lists for something like this, and have done self-promoted concerts before, and so know what is involved. I am also glad to do back-up vocals and fiddle, and there is a LARGE Steinway if anyone has the need/urge to do keyboard work.

Susan A-R


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: M.Ted
Date: 10 Jan 01 - 08:04 PM

Carol, I just want you to know that my zany Michigan comedy routine is not an act for hicks at all, and in fact it takes a college degree to get a lot of the jokes( not one of those fakey "Bachelor of Arts degrees, either, but one a firm foundation in science and math)--I just thought that your educated, sophisticated, and highly educated audiences would enjoy having another state as the subject of humor for a change, because, (and we both know that this is true), when Congress is not in session, those Washingtonian readers make West Viginia the subject of a lot of their jokes--


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: CarolC
Date: 10 Jan 01 - 07:23 PM

Oops, correction-

Make that Washingtonian Magazine.

Carol


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: CarolC
Date: 10 Jan 01 - 06:12 PM

Susan-Marie,

If you're ever coming back for another training session, send me a PM. Maybe we could get together over a cup of something at the Lost Dog.

Carol


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: Susan-Marie
Date: 10 Jan 01 - 05:46 PM

Carol - I love Shepherdstown. Been to two training sessions at the FWS training center - nicest use of "pork" money I ever saw....


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: CarolC
Date: 10 Jan 01 - 05:09 PM

M Ted,

The hick schtick might work in most of West Virginin, but don't try it in Shepherdstown.

Washington Post Magazine designated Shepherdstown as the "Smartest small town" within a 100 mile radius of the Washington Monument, with the highest percentage of people with college degrees (54%).

This is an events town. Events is what we do here. There are many able promoters here in town who do a fine job of promoting and succesfully holding events. Unfortunately, I'm not one of them. I have good connections, though.

Carol


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: Naemanson
Date: 10 Jan 01 - 12:54 PM

Sorry but we need time to set this up, annamill. You would be surprised how long it will take to set up gigs and line up talent. And some venues are already booked out that far. The side Door coffeehouse is booked through next winter but mine is only booked a few minths in advance so you can guess where the local concert will be held.

I still haven't heard from anyone who would like to design and make the banner.


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: annamill
Date: 10 Jan 01 - 12:21 PM

I was just re-reading the posts and I realized that we're considering starting it after the FSGW??? Can't we do this soon and END at FSGW??

First we do Mudcat radio, then over to the coast (me), the onward to the North, East, West and South. How very exciting!

I don't wanna wait til next October!! Whine, whine..

Love, annamill


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: Naemanson
Date: 10 Jan 01 - 12:06 PM

BTW, with the different format, i.e., mailing the banner around the world, our overseas brothers and sisters can join in the fun. Where are they in this. Some have checked in above but I think they have backed off. Let's see if we can include some of our other members in this. It is after all a WORLD tour.


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: annamill
Date: 10 Jan 01 - 11:44 AM

Frank, I'll be happy to come down to Wilmington, as an audience. I. alas, still haven't learned how to play guitar. Someday.... Are you my first guest?

Naemanson, may I be considered a serious venue. I could set it up at a nice local pub. The owner is a friend. Besides, he'd make money on the drinks.

How much are we charging for this, anyway? $10 a head good? Max can hold the money as it comes in ;-)

I need some Mudcatters to play though!

Love, annamill


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: Rex
Date: 10 Jan 01 - 11:43 AM

Hey WyoWoman, count me in. I'll toss some instruments in the car join in. Lets get the other CO folks too.

Rex


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: Naemanson
Date: 10 Jan 01 - 11:32 AM

I just listened to the archive of last night's radio show and Max gave this project his blessing. Well, actually what he said was that it could go forward if he could be the roadie. That's fine as far as I'm concerned. If he wants to hump all that equipment then more power to him. *BG*

I am indeed taking names, pseudolus, and yours is now on the list. It will take some serious skull work to put this all together and before it's over our communications will have to be by email rather than PM but not yet. Once I have a list of people and places to set up concerts I will ask for specific email addresses for a First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow Central Committee.


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: Pseudolus
Date: 10 Jan 01 - 10:50 AM

What an awesome can of worms this is!! I think that Naemanson will probably want to do some more organizing to make sure this great idea doesn't fly outta control but when the time comes, I can find either one of those exits! I'll travel there if you'll travel here!!

Naemanson, I am willing to help in whatever way I can. Post it here or PM me and let me know.

Frank


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: annamill
Date: 10 Jan 01 - 09:23 AM

I would love to organize a gig in Sea Bright, NJ, exit 117 from the North, and exit 105 from the South. Anyone care to play here? You are welcome to stay at my house and I know of a real nice place I might be able to get for free and Glenn is real good frinds with a reporter at The Asbury Park Press, and I have a good friend on a local entertainment rag called Fred's Entertainment. Folk is moving in our area. It probably would be a good draw.

I need some players though! And, Naemanson, I would need a date window to plan for.

What fun! Even better than a gathering! Well, maybe. I love new projects.

Love, annamill


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: Naemanson
Date: 10 Jan 01 - 07:39 AM

I am indeed trying to put together a list of names. I would like those who are serious about doing this to PM me with what they want to contribute.

Please note that I am taking the role of chairman and organizer. Once I have a list of volunteers I may be asking you to do more than you have volunteered for. As an example, John P and Grey Rooster have each volunteered to perform. This is great and very necessary. But for every performer on stage there are several people unseen and often unappreciated who put that person on that stage. Those are the people we need and if I cannot get those volunteers I will have to either draft the performers themselves or drop the project. This is a team effort to put together something that nobody has ever done before.


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: InOBU
Date: 10 Jan 01 - 06:21 AM

I think Sorcha Dorcha would go for this for the New York City stop, and someone drop Liam's Brother an email to check out this post, he is one of the few other NYC mudcatters whoperforms here...
Larry


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: John P
Date: 10 Jan 01 - 06:13 AM

I can organize a concert in the Seattle area, split the bill with an out-of-town Mudcatter, and put one or two folks up overnight (depending on how cozy they are). Travelling to another city is more difficult, but not impossible. I play in a duet act called Telynor. Naemanson, are you putting together a list of people? If so, put me on it:
John Peekstok
jpeekstok@aol.com


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: Gray Rooster
Date: 09 Jan 01 - 06:14 PM

Right on Jeff. Put me down as your opening act in the Dallas area. There are enough of us in this area to kick it off quickly. Hell, I'll put up the $$ to mail the banner to the next location - and I've got this BIG felt marker to sign my name on it . I'd be honored.


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: Bert
Date: 09 Jan 01 - 04:51 PM

Pseudolus, If you're in Wilmington Delaware, get your ass up here to Mudcat Radio;-)


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: Pseudolus
Date: 09 Jan 01 - 04:35 PM

I got into this really late and didn't have time to read all of the posts so if I am repeating, I apologize. The idea is great. why don't we gather all of the names of the folks willing to perform (and where they live) AND the names of the audience folks that want the tour to come to them, put it on a map and then decide a route. Maybe a small committee to pull it all together. I would LOVE it if the tour would come through Wilmington Delaware!! I saw at least one post from Rowana in Philadelphia....sounds like a cluster of catters to me!!

Frank


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: MMario
Date: 09 Jan 01 - 02:49 PM

I was about to say something about that. We used to have a great deal of problems at my home school with functions because we were required by the SCHOOL to pay the janitors (at overtime rates) and by the TOWN to pay a police officer (again at overtime) even though the auditorium itself was free.


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: RedCelt
Date: 09 Jan 01 - 02:46 PM

Here's another idea, kinda spun off from the original.

(It's entirely possible that this sort of thing already exists somewhere on the 'cat, and I'm in blissful ignorance of it)

Rather than organizing a fixed string of concerts, we might at the least maintain regional/city lists of players, willing hosts, people plugged into the local venues, free publicity, etc...

Then whenever a 'Catter is traveling and needs a between-shows gig, or wants to individually organize a "Mudcat Touring Roadshow" the resources are already assembled.

I hereby volunteer for the host and free publicity lists from Dallas.

All the Best, Jeff


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: Allan C.
Date: 09 Jan 01 - 02:40 PM

Most of the high schools I know about attach fees for auditorium rental. In addition, many of them charge an extra fee for janitorial support, etc.. But some of them don't charge very much and many will help with advertising.


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: Amergin
Date: 09 Jan 01 - 02:27 PM

I think that if the catter's volunteer to help, they should get in for free or for a discount, otherwise it might help defeat the purpose. BTW some high schools let folks use their auditoriums for special shows and lectures and such....if I can get an idea about a when and such maybe I can try to get us the local high school here....


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: annamill
Date: 09 Jan 01 - 02:21 PM

Hey, cool Bert! Another question. Will non-performing Mudcatters be paying as a guest, or will they be paying less, or nothing?

I've already got my mind rolling on this from my side. I could have it at my house or I know of at least one place that would make a wonderful venue, but you'd have to buy your own booze, um, drinks. I would supply the food, and maybe Bert and Tre could cook something up to be included in the price, or anybody who wants to help. This would be fun. We were discussing, a while back, a Mudcat festival here at Sandy Hook, same as Greenpeace. This might be a good first try.

Love, annamill


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: Naemanson
Date: 09 Jan 01 - 02:16 PM

That's OK, Amergin, I did my time with them too. They help even when hit by the big body blow you got earlier.

Allan, that was indeed what I originally had in mind. If someone wants to volunteer to go on to the next concert then we are that much farther ahead. Unfortunately it will be almost impossible to schedule the concerts such that they can be consecutive and geographically close enough for this to work.

Bert, great idea! First the banner then the song thing. This might be difficult because there might not be a person in the next concert who knows the song used in the last one. That is just a matter of coordination and cooperation.

BTW, Bert, any word from Max?


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: Bert
Date: 09 Jan 01 - 01:59 PM

Because this is an ongoing thing, the last song should not be a goodbye song.
The next session could start with the last song from the previous session.


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: Allan C.
Date: 09 Jan 01 - 01:50 PM

"In an ideal world" I presume that the torch, or banner in this case, could be hand-carried by someone from the previous venue. That person would then participate in the performance at the next venue. Thus, some of the energies would be passed onto the next group.

That was my picture of what it might be like. However, as in so many things, real life can get in the way of doing stuff like that. So I guess mailing the banner is as close as we can get in most cases.


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: Amergin
Date: 09 Jan 01 - 01:43 PM

Uh, Naemanson, am already taking them....


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: Naemanson
Date: 09 Jan 01 - 01:34 PM

To: Jaze, Amergin, Rowana, and others who have made similare "no talent" statements.

Re: Said "no talent" statements

1. Hey, drop it! I refuse to believe it. Everyone has talent in some form or another. Even the village idiot is generally good at being an idiot. Maybe you can't play an instrument, maybe your voice wavers on more than one note, maybe you are rhythmically challenged. It ain't no big deal! There are more talents than those in music. I started out putting away chairs after open mike night. Doesn't sound like much but that is where I started to explore my talents as regards music.

2. And if I hear any more self deprecating talk like that I will recommend you to the nearest psychologist for anti depressants. *BG*

3. Now, with that in mind what can you offer the First Ever Mudcat World Tour? Sure you can't get up on stage and wow the audience but then neither will I. Events don't happen because a performer gets on a stage. Events happen because an unseen someone puts that performer on the stage.


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: GUEST,jaze
Date: 09 Jan 01 - 01:04 PM

Thanks to Amergin and Rowana for letting me know I'm not the only untalented soul here. Don't sing or play..wish I did. But I too am a great listener and enjoy other's talent in bringing great songs to us.


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: Naemanson
Date: 09 Jan 01 - 12:51 PM

This thread has been pretty quiet. Has the interest been lost?


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 09 Jan 01 - 12:25 PM

I hear you, and I'm still thinking how I can help in NC. Anyone else in the area with ideas they want to talk out?


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: Naemanson
Date: 08 Jan 01 - 05:01 PM

Annamill, you've basicly got it right. "Mudcat banner will be passed from one to the other, as each gig is done, by torch carriers..." the torch carriers will actually mail the banner to the next torch carrier.

"So, what we need is people to set up the jobs, people to carry the torch (presumably someone from the last job) to the next job and they also get to play at the gig, hosts along the way, and Max's ok.... Do we need advertizing? Will we support our own efforts? Will the money go to Mudcat, or to the performers for expenses, or, perhaps a percentage to both? "

Yes to all of the above. In an ideal world this would be a fundraiser only for the Mudcat but there would be expenses to defray. I am used to our local conditions where the local papers will freely run a story that tells the public what is going on but charge you for an advertisement. The majority of these events will be little things that few people will attend but we might be able to get something set up with some heft.

I like your idea, Mick, of using the pub night after FSGW. I guess this locks me into going to next year's FSGW. Oh darn. Woe is me...

Still need to hear from Max on this idea.


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: annamill
Date: 08 Jan 01 - 03:16 PM

I haven't really grasped the idea of what we're trying to accomplish here. Please let me know if I've got it wrong.

As I see it, gigs will be set up around the world by/for Mudcatters ( one after the other) or ( all at the same time) and the Mudcat banner will be passed from one to the other, as each gig is done, by torch carriers handing it from person to person through the world.

So, what we need is people to set up the jobs, people to carry the torch (presumably someone from the last job) to the next job and they also get to play at the gig, hosts along the way, and Max's ok.

Do we need advertizing? Will we support our own efforts? Will the money go to Mudcat, or to the performers for expenses, or, perhaps a percentage to both?

So, what's the problem? I could probably set up a gig or two in my area. Maybe even a house gig. I know people who are familiar with my Mudcat friends from previous gatherings and would be anxious to come. And I host too!

Do I have it right?

Rowena, I'm in Little Silver, near Red Bank. PM me when you'd like to come up and maybe I could get some of the Mudcatters in the area to come and play.

Love, annamill


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: Big Mick
Date: 08 Jan 01 - 02:26 PM

I would suggest one modification for the first one. I wouldn't do it at the FSGW as that would infringe too much on their gathering. I would use that gathering as a meeting place and then stay over the extra night and do it at Mudcat Central in West Chester, PA at the same pub we did the last show at. Does that sound like it will work? I will assist in whatever way I can. And I would want as many 'Catters as possible to start socking away the cash and reserving the time for the event. This gives us 10 months to get it together.

Mick


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: Tinker
Date: 08 Jan 01 - 01:37 PM

Okay, I'll take on Mudcat organization my way, but I wouldn't know how to agent for someone. I do know there is an acousitic venue down the block from me that
1) covers the same folk and blues that Mudcat does.
2)Is tied in to WFUV and regularly interviews the performers.
3) WFUV has posted to the cat
4. Perhaps performers could check the web site and see if it would work??? E-MAil the co-ordinator for more info??
http://www.outpostintheburbs.org/concerts.html sorry I haven't learn't clickies

MAX I WANT YOU TO DO THIS!!!!!!!

Montclair is 20 miles out of NYC and on both bus and train routes. I can shuttle from stations, find mucho space(shared with kids and dog) offer more (and more comfortable) sing a round space that the "Cat Getaway cabin and by then my kitchen will no longer date from the 1920's...


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Subject: RE: First Ever Mudcat Touring Roadshow
From: Naemanson
Date: 08 Jan 01 - 01:11 PM

It goes without saying that we need Max's blessing too.


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