Subject: Bald-Faced Steer - need lyrics From: GUEST,Ladyzinnia*@aol.com Date: 07 Jan 01 - 11:41 PM Please remove the * before responding... thanks... Looking for the lyrics to an old cowboy song... The Bald-faced Steer (I think). First couple of lines are... Jake and Roney was a ridin' along Jake was a singin' what he called a song Last couple of lines are... Jake he hollered so the world could hear, "Stay back NUTHIN! There's a BEAR in here!" I remember a couple of lines in the middle and that's about it. I have searched the web for days on end, found a reference to the song in one place but no lyrics. Hope someone can help. |
Subject: RE: Bald-Faced Steer - need lyrics From: Joe Offer Date: 08 Jan 01 - 01:24 AM Darn. That sounds so familiar, but I can't find it. -Joe Offer- |
Subject: Add: The Moonshine steer From: MMario Date: 08 Jan 01 - 08:52 AM this isn't the right song, but it's what I found searching on "bald faced steer"
THE MOONSHINE STEER
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Subject: RE: Bald-Faced Steer - need lyrics From: Jim Dixon Date: 13 Apr 05 - 12:28 AM According to this discography, Bill Bender sang BALD FACED STEER on an album made by Bill Bender and Cisco Houston called "Traditional Songs of the Old West," 1963. |
Subject: ADD: Jake and Roney and the Bald Faced Steer From: Peace Date: 13 Apr 05 - 12:38 AM This may be it. |
Subject: ADD: Jake and Roney / Roanie From: Joe Offer Date: 13 Apr 05 - 03:35 AM Here are the lyrics from Brucie's Link, which also has a recording of the song. Jake and Roney ^^ VERSE 1 Well, Jake an' Roney was a ride'n along Jakey was a sing'n what 'e called a song Up from a gulley what should appear An old moss back sukey an' a bald face steer VERSE 2 VERSE 3 VERSE 4 VERSE 5 VERSE 6 VERSE 7 VERSE 8 VERSE 9 VERSE 10
Click to playThere's an entry on the song in the Traditional Ballad Index: Jake and RoanieDESCRIPTION: Jake and Roanie spot (a) steer and give chase; it lures them into a gulley and they are thrown by their horses. Forced to flee the steer, Roanie climbs a tree while Jake heads for a cave. Jake keeps popping out; there is a bear in the caveAUTHOR: unknown EARLIEST DATE: 1930
KEYWORDS: cowboy horse animal humorous Go to the Ballad Search form
The Ballad Index Copyright 2005 by Robert B. Waltz and David G. Engle. The version in Ohrlin's Hell-Bound Train songbook is very similar to the Max Hunter transcription from Ohrlin's singing. Ohrlin says he found "Jake and Roanie" as a poem in Western Horseman, and then learned the song in 1967 from a tape by Arizona singer Romaine Lowdermilk. There's also a version called "The Bosky Steer" in Katie Lee's Ten Thousand Goddam Cattle (pp. 92-93)
-Joe Offer- |
Subject: ADD: Jake and Rome From: Joe Offer Date: 13 Apr 05 - 04:19 AM There is an older version here (click), from an article called "Cowboy Ballads" by Myra Hull, taken from the February, 1939, edition of the Kansas Historical Quarterly: Jake and Rome Jake and Rome were ridin' along, Jake was singin' what he called a song, When up from a gully what Should appear But a mossbacked sooky and a bald-faced steer. Jake started after with his hat pulled down, Rome followed up his partner's deal The sun was shinin' in old Jake's eyes, Old Jake's pony done a figure 8, Now Rome's horse was a good horse, too, Jake Sat a-holdin' up his swelled up thumb, Rome clumb a-straddle of a juniper tree, The Steer he charged with his head 'way down, Rome said, "You old fool, back out of sight,
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-Joe Offer- |
Subject: RE: Req/ADD Jake and Roney and the Bald Faced Steer From: GUEST,Gerry Date: 13 Apr 05 - 09:56 PM I have a (vinyl) recording of this. I think it's sung by Glenn Ohrlin, and I think it's on an album called Folk Festival of the Smokies, but my albums are not accessible right now. I'll look for it when I can. |
Subject: RE: Req/ADD Jake and Roney and the Bald Faced Stee From: GUEST,Dale Date: 14 Apr 05 - 01:19 AM Yep, so it is, Gerry ~~ listed as Jake and Roaney on side two, track two on the Folk Festival Of The Smokies LP. It's been a while since I've heard it, but I expect it wouldn't be all that much different than the version linked by Brucie, since it would have been only a few years later. I've heard him do it much more recently, and he still does it pretty much the same. Note that the Max Hunter site always spells OHRLIN incorrectly. |
Subject: RE: Req/ADD Jake and Roney and the Bald Faced Stee From: GUEST,Dale Date: 14 Apr 05 - 01:34 AM And of course that is Jake and Roaney and the Bald Faced Steer, not just Jake and Roaney as I typed in the previous post. After reading it again I could see where what I said could have been misleading. It's not pertinent to this discussion, but Joe's mention of the John Wetherill family reminds me that it is worth a side trip to delve into their part in the history of the American West for those who might be interested in such. |
Subject: RE: Req/ADD Jake and Roney and the Bald Faced Steer From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 14 Apr 05 - 03:16 PM Romaine Lowdermilk (Arizona singer) recorded the song on a tape, and Glenn Ohrlin learned the song from this tape. Ohrlin included the song, with music, in his book, "The Hell-Bound Train," pp. 113-114, as "Jake and Roanie." I don't know if the Lowdermilk tape was commercially issued. |
Subject: Lyr Add: THE BOSKY STEER (Henry Herbert Knibbs) From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 15 Apr 05 - 03:22 PM First published in 1930 in "Songs of the Lost Frontier,"by Henry Herbert Knibbs (1874-1945), "The Bosky Steer" quickly was picked up by cowboys, and by the time Myra Hull published in 1939, the song had entered tradition with different names, but the story line remained fairly constant. 'Bosky' is a corruption of the Spanish 'bosque,' a brushy, wooded place, often following a stream course and a favorite shelter for mavericks and wild animals. Knibbs, born in Canada, at age 35 attended Harvard with his wife, both studying literature. His first books were on travel. Knibbs bought a little ranch in California in 1911, where he learned about cowboys. He was at home with them and their ways, and several of his poems entered their repertoire. His life was influenced by his friend, rancher-author Eugene Manlove Rhodes. His collected poetry was published in 1999. "Riders of the Stars" was his first western poetry book, 1916. Katie Lee, "Ten Thousand Goddam Cattle," pp. 92-93, gives a brief biographical note and the text of "The Bosky Steer"; music, pp. 191-192, as noted by Joe Offer, above. The composer of the distinctive music has not been identified. Lyr. Add: THE BOSKY STEER Henry Herbert Knibbs Jake and Roany were a-chousin' along, And Jake was a'singin' what he called a song, When up from a waller what should appear, But a moss-horned maverick, a bosky steer. Jake he started with his hat pulled down, Built a blocker that would snare a town, That steer he headed for the settin' sun, And believe me, neighbor, he could hump and run! Roany he followed his pardner's deal, -Two old waddies that could head and heel- Both of 'em ridin' for the Chicken Coop, With a red-hot iron and a hungry loop. The sun was a-shinin' in ole Jake's eyes, And he wasn't just lookin' for no real surprise, When the steer gave a wiggle like his dress was tight, Busted through a juniper and dropped from sight. Jake and his pony did the figure eight, But Jake did his addin' just a mite too late, He left that saddle. and a'seein' red, He lit in the gravel of a river bed. Now Roany's hoss was a good hoss, too, But he didn't understand just why Jake flew, So he humped and started for the cavviard, And left Roany settin' where the ground was hard. Jake was lookin' at a swelled-up thumb, And he says, "I reckon we was goin' some!" When Roany hollers, "Git a-movin' quick, Or you're sure goin' to tangle with that maverick." Roany clumb a-straddle of the juniper tree, "Ain't no more room up here," yells he. So Jake he figured for hisself to save, By backin' in the openin' of a cut-bank cave. The steer he prodded with his head one side, But he couldn't quite make it to old Jake's hide; Kep' snortin' and pawin' and prodin' stout, But every time he quit, why, Jake come out. "You ole fool!" yips Roany, "Keep back out of sight! You act like you're hankerin' to make him fight!" Then Jake he hollers kinda fierce and queer: "Back, hell, nothin'! There's a bear in here!" The song, as "unknown," is also in the collections of The University of New Mexico, K. L. Koelle file, as "Jake and Roanie," and in the Utah State Collection, Wyoming source, as "Jake and Roanie." For a selection of Knibbs' poetry, see Knibbs Poetry A poem "The Onery Roan Steer" in the Mary Gardner Condon Coll., Utah State University, may be related. |
Subject: RE:Jake and Roney and the Bald Faced Steer From: GUEST Date: 15 Aug 05 - 04:44 PM Pop Wagner has recorded a fine rendition of Jake and Roany on his cd of cowboy song titled Forty a Month and Found. Nice guitar work and a great singing style. |
Subject: RE: Req/ADD Jake and Roney and the Bald Faced Steer From: GUEST,Lyrics to Jake & Ronny Date: 26 Apr 07 - 05:56 PM Jake and Roany was a-chousin' along, And Jake was a singin' what he called a song, When up from a waller what should appear, But a moss-horned maverick, a bosky steer. Jake he started with his hat pulled down, Built a blocker that would snare a town; That steer he headed for the settin' sun, And believe me neighbor, he could hump and run! Roany he follared his pardner's deal, Two old waddies that could head and heel – Both of 'em ridin' for the Chicken Coop, With a red-hot iron and a hungry loop. The sun was a-shinin' in old Jakes eyes, And he wasn't just lookin' for no real surprise, When the steer gave a wriggle like his dress was tight, Busted through a juniper and dropped from sight. Jake and his pony did a figure eight, But Jake did his addin' just a mite too late; He left that saddle and a-seein' red, He lit in the gravel of the river bed. Now Roany's hoss was a good hoss too, But he didn't understand just why Jake flew, So he humped and started for the cavviard, And left Roany sittin' where the ground was hard. Jake was lookin' at a swelled up thumb, And he says, "I reckon we was goin' some!" When Roany hollers, "Git a movin' quick, Or yore shore goin' to tangle with that maverick!" The steer he prodded with his head one side, But he couldn't quite make it to old Jake's hide, Kep' snortin' and pawin' and prodin' stout, But every time he quit, why Jake came out. 'You ole fool!" yips Roany, "Keep back out of sight! You act like you're hankerin' to make him fight!" Then Jake he hollers kind a fierce and queer: "Back hell nothin'! There's a bear in here!" |
Subject: RE: Moonshine Steer From: Artful Codger Date: 18 May 08 - 11:01 PM "The Moonshine Steer", posted unattributed earlier in this thread, was written by Gail I. Gardner; the DT entry should be updated accordingly. I presume he included it in his collection Orejana Bull (1935), though the poem circulated separately prior to that time. In Katie Lee's Ten Thousand Goddam Cattle, she devotes much of Chapter 5 to discussing with Gail how his poems have been pirated frequently without attribution. To quote briefly from the horse's mouth (p.51): "After the war I showed that poem [Sierry Petes] and some others I'd written to some cowboy friends, among them Billy Simon. Bill decided to cook up an old tune for it and started singing it around cow camps and rodeos. This was the first time I got the idea that a lot of my poems would do for songs. "A Wickenburg dude wrangler by the name of George German was also a radio singer and he wanted my Sierry Petes and my Moonshine Steer to publish in a collection of old cow songs he was getting out for his radio station in Yankton, South Dakota, in 1929. [...] I suppose that is where those radio punks first got hold of it." I haven't found indications of when the poem was first written, published or put to music, or whether it is now officially in the public domain. John I White, in the book Git Along, Little Dogies (1975) adds: 'Gardner says he himself sang "The Sierry Petes" the first time for the cowboys attending one of a series of neighborhood rodeos staged on the Z-Triangle Ranch near Wagoner owned by James Minotto. The boys like it. Liked it so much that for each of the next few years Gardner had to come up with a new one. Those that he feels have made the best songs are "The Moonshine Steer" and "The Dude Wrangler." The former, which can be sung to the tune of "Roving Gambler," […]' [italics mine] |
Subject: RE: Req/ADD Jake and Roney and the Bald Faced Stee From: open mike Date: 18 May 08 - 11:27 PM i thought Boskey was from the word Basque...as there many cow and sheep herders from that tradition.see http://www.cowboyshowcase.com/basque.htm |
Subject: RE: Req/ADD Jake and Roney and the Bald Faced Steer From: GUEST,Q as guest Date: 18 May 08 - 11:50 PM Gail Gardner did publish "The Moonshine Steer" in "Orejana Bull," 1935, p. 3-4, and a brief musical score on p. 27. This little volume also includes "The Sierry Petes," with a brief score. "Orejana Bull" was reprinted in 1987 by the Sharlott Hall Museum Press, Prescott, AZ. The frontispiece is a cartoon by J. R. Williams of a puncher trying to rope a recalcitrant steer. 'Orejana' is a calf old enough to quit its mother, a maverick. |
Subject: RE: Req/ADD Jake and Roney and the Bald Faced Steer From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 18 Jun 08 - 02:56 PM Bosque, from my Velasquez Spanish and English Dictionary- m. Wood, tract of land with trees and brushwood; forest, grove, any wooded place. In the Southwest, the brushwood is often spiny, or otherwise designed to discourage anyone trying to ride or walk through it. |
Subject: RE: Req/ADD Jake and Roney and the Bald Faced Stee From: GUEST,DWR Date: 18 Jun 08 - 02:59 PM http://www.hillbilly-music.com/artists/story/printartist.php?id=13307 hillbilly-music.com has a very nice article on Romaine Lowdermilk, I have the link turned to the printer friendly version. Their whole site has a lot of worthwhile articles. I have heard the Romaine Lowdermilk recording that was donated to the Ozark Folk Center by Glenn Ohrlin. It varies only a little from the versions given above. |
Subject: RE: Req/ADD Jake and Roney and the Bald Faced Steer From: GUEST,Kingnormie Date: 26 Jul 08 - 04:28 PM I have this tune, as sung by Romaine Lowdermilk, on an LP, an acetate that he cut in the late 1950s. The record itself is a rarity, probably a "one of a kind", so I no longer play it at all btu I did move the music to CD and enjoy all 13 songs on it regularly. |
Subject: RE: Req/ADD Jake and Roney and the Bald Faced Stee From: GUEST,romy gerould Date: 14 Nov 09 - 08:27 AM I remember him singing that when I was a child. I am his step-grandson named for him. Does the record label say Ramsey's Recording Studio? |
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