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Subject: What do you call your bread? From: Dave the Gnome Date: 17 Jan 01 - 08:07 AM Sat here having eaten my dinner. Very nice it was too. Egg salad, no mayo, bit of salt and pepper, on a lump of granary bread the shape and size of a rugby ball and I got to wondering what I should call said lump. Here in Salford, Lancs, England, it would be a French Stick. A white circular lump of bread approx 5" in diameter and 2" deep would be a balm cake. Similar size and shape with currants is a tea cake. Similar to a balm cake but twice the size would be an oven bottom. A roll is a spherical lump of doughy white stuff that you dip in soup. A cob is similar to a roll but baked longer to give a hard crust. A muffin is like a balm cake but smaller and denser, made specialy for toasting and scone rhymes with gone. Incidentaly, I am having my dinner because it is dinner time (noon) and I will have my tea (main evening meal)when I get home. Supper is a light snack between going to the pub and going to bed. Anything between two slices of bread (of any description) is a butty - except when you put a pie in a sliced balm cake at which point it becomes a pie burger. Anyone got any other good regional variations so we can argue who is right;-) Cheers Dave the Gnome |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: GUEST,the Doer of Things Date: 17 Jan 01 - 08:13 AM I do not have that many terms for bread. We have corn bread which we bake in a round pan. Light (or loaf) bread which we buy. French bread, somewhat oval shaped loaf, often seasoned with garlic. Bisquits and pizza sticks. Also money, moolah, cash, loot, karo, greenbacks; we call that bread. DOT |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Dave the Gnome Date: 17 Jan 01 - 08:20 AM money, moolah, cash, loot, karo, greenbacks - Ahhh! That's DOSH! |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: GUEST,the Doer of Things Date: 17 Jan 01 - 08:27 AM Pardon my ignorance, what is DOSH? |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Naemanson Date: 17 Jan 01 - 08:29 AM Hey, man, bread is like, bread, ya dig? |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Jon Freeman Date: 17 Jan 01 - 08:33 AM I'm buying my bread from the college I am attending at the moment and I don't call it anything - I just point and say "can I have that one please". Whatever it is called, the stuff I have had so far has been very tasty and very reasonably priced. Jon |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Dave the Gnome Date: 17 Jan 01 - 08:35 AM I guess a combination of DOugh and caSH. But who knows how the Salford linguistic process realy works....:-) DtG |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: GUEST,DOT Date: 17 Jan 01 - 08:41 AM Sounds like a dialect I heard on one of my strange journeys to never-evr land. Lot of gnomes there, you know! DOT |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Crazy Eddie Date: 17 Jan 01 - 09:16 AM Well, a "BLA" is a regional type of bread roll from Waterford. Same shape as a cob but with a soft crust, and a dusting of white flour. Our main variant of course is soda bread, which uses Sodium Bicarbonate & lactic acid as the raising agent rather than yeast. It is usually baked in a round shape, and so is referred to as a cake of bread, rather than a loaf of bread. Brown Soda is on the menu in every hotel & guest-house but there is also white soda, and currant soda. Currant soda (which usually contains raisins these days) is often made with a richer mixture including an egg & some sugar. It is also known as spotted dog in some places. (Not to be confused with spotted Dick, which is either a dessert, or a nasty affliction, depending on your circumstances). Of course, if there's a hurry, you could cook the soda bread on low heat in a heavy frying pan, turning it once. Your cake of bread is then known as a griddle-cake. [Yes I DO know that a frying pan is not a griddle, but the bread is pretty much the same, and who's got a griddle these days? :o)] We also used to get a very crusty white yeast loaf of unusual shape called a grinder, which was very nice with butter & (home-made) jam. Nowadays, I seem to mainly eat flat bread (unleavened), but thats 'cos it seems to match houmus, olives, and such. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Jimmy C Date: 17 Jan 01 - 09:22 AM In Canada, it's just bread, white or brown, wheaten, 7 grain or 12 grain. and many others but it is all bread.
In Ireland they have Farls, Bannocks and Barmbracks, A farl is 4" triangular piece about 1/2" thick and can be either a soda farl, wheaten farl or a treacle farl. Bannocks are wheaten bread about 12" round and 2" thick in the middle, Barmbrack is similar but more fluffier inside. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: folk1234 Date: 17 Jan 01 - 09:35 AM Speaking of Bread, here's one of my favorites. We just call it 'good'. HOMEMADE SOUR DOUGH BREAD (From Another Time) Phillip C. Norton, 1995
**HAVING:
* From the ancient vats of Braumeister Hienrik von Mach the perfectly aged brew made from the finest hops grown in the rolling plains of Volda and hand-harvested under the bright October morning sun.
BREAD:
FOR STARTER: Mix all ingredients and stir with wooden spoon until well-combined and pasty. Cover with a towel & set aside in warm spot. Stir several times a day for three days. On 3rd day it should smell pleasantly sour and there should be many bubbles. You may need 4 days to reach this point. If after 4 days you are not successful, or if the mix smells rancid, start over. Check the expiration date on the yeast. Store in an earthenware air tight crock and refrigerate.
When ready to use the starter, stir and bring to room temperature. Reserve what is left over and replenish with equal parts of flour and water. Let it rise for three hours, then refrigerate.
TO MAKE BREAD: Mix all ingredients in a large warm bowl until smooth and sticky. Cover with a towel and place in a warm area to rise for one hour. Flop out on a floured bread board and begin kneading with firm, but gentle, strokes using the heel of your hands and your fingers. This is good exercise for musicians who play fretted instruments. You may want to add caraway seeds, poppy seeds, or onion flakes at this point. Knead until firm and silky. Cover, and let rise again for about 40 minutes. Hit the dough hard with a closed fist and form into two loaves. Let rise in the loaf plan or bread sheet for another 20 minutes then place in a pre-heated 350 oven for 30 to 45 minutes
Now sit in a comfortable chair, listen to good music, and breath in the earthly aroma of the yeast spirits dancing in the colorful harmony created by the harvests of wheat and sugar carried by the mysterious steam of the water from another time.
** NOTE: If you cannot find the specific ingredients, then you may use stuff from your favorite grocery store with only minor, perhaps unnoticeable, affect to the overall recipe.
***REFERENCE: "Water From Another Time", written by John McCutchen, contemporary folk singer/songwriter, and repeated, in part, as follows:
"Primed with wisdom from another time........."
"Though Grandpa's hands have gone to dust,
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: A Wandering Minstrel Date: 17 Jan 01 - 09:41 AM In my native land we call the round flat ones "Stotty Cakes" and the small cubical ones "Penny Bricks" |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: okthen Date: 17 Jan 01 - 09:42 AM I'm surprised Jon didn't mention Larva bread, made from seaweed I'm told. Then there's scofa bread, or coberg (pronounced cobber) loaves. Pikelets on the other hand are known crumpets, in most of the civilised world. cheers bill |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: folk1234 Date: 17 Jan 01 - 09:47 AM Sorry. It looks like the column format for the recipe didn't work. BREAD 3 Heaping cups bread flour 1 1/2 Cups Starter 1 pkg dry yeast 1/2 cup warm beer 1 tsp salt 2 Tblsp Sugar 2 Tblsp butter cut up STARTER 2 Cups all purpose flour 1 Tblsp Sugar 1 pkg dry yeast 1 tsp salt 2 Cups warm beer |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Jon Freeman Date: 17 Jan 01 - 09:48 AM bill, I am ashamed to admit that I have never tasted larva bread and I would not even be sure where to find it in Llandudno. Jon |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Dave the Gnome Date: 17 Jan 01 - 10:12 AM I thought pikelets were like crumpets but thinner (ie about 1/4" deep insted of a couple of inches like a crumpet is?) Not as nice as a crumpet but pretty useful for sticking in the toaster! DtG |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Pinetop Slim Date: 17 Jan 01 - 10:15 AM I have a nice loaf of vienna bread I call Guido. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: aussiebloke Date: 17 Jan 01 - 10:34 AM And not to forget Australia's famous 'folk-bread', which is known as damper, traditionally cooked on the coals of an open fire. It is said that the best shearers cooks can make a damper which is so light that it has to be nailed to the table, lest a stray breeze lift it up and waft it away.... cheers... |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Les from Hull Date: 17 Jan 01 - 10:34 AM A 'barm cake' in Hull is a breadcake. A roll is more cylindrical (as in a Vienna Roll) but something less elonogated would be called a bap. More recently stotties have migrated down fron the North-East in search of a better lifestyle. Teacakes here have currents in them, unlike some areas of the UK. Les
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 17 Jan 01 - 10:49 AM There's "grinders" in Ireland as well - big loaves look a bit like molars. Where I am it's tins and bloomersd and sandwich loaves.
And it's "dosh" down here as well. And of course "readies." If it's dodgy dosh of course it can be "a bung" |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Dave the Gnome Date: 17 Jan 01 - 10:51 AM Does it take a lot of looking after, Slim? I am looking for a new pet myself. My favourite pet, a tin of sardines called Roscoe, died last week. DtG |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: mousethief Date: 17 Jan 01 - 11:23 AM Bob. Sometimes Tom. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: GUEST,Matt_R Date: 17 Jan 01 - 11:27 AM Baby, I'm a want some bread now. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: annamill Date: 17 Jan 01 - 12:19 PM Folk1234, that was excellent. I don't how I would come upon those ingredients though! I haven't made bread (the eating kind anyway) for a VERY long time. Sometimes I think I'm too busy for life. Maybe I'll try that this weekend. I've been bored lately. Love, annamill |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Kim C Date: 17 Jan 01 - 12:53 PM OH gosh do I love bread. Don't eat as much of it as I used to these days. Used to actually BAKE bread when I had time to do it. Don't care for the bread machines, though - bread baked in them is good, yes, but it's not dense like hand-kneaded bread. Too many airy holes and it still tastes like storebought to me. Put enough butter on it, though (and I do mean BUTTER and not MARGARINE) and anything's okay. Around our house the conversation is what's the difference between a roll and a biscuit. Mister being from Indiana and all still doesn't understand that in Dixie a roll and a biscuit are two entirely different animals. A roll is a small roundish bit of bread usually made with yeast. A biscuit is a nice soft flaky thing with no yeast. He's been here almost 12 years and I'm still tryin to train him.... sigh... |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: mousethief Date: 17 Jan 01 - 01:06 PM That's the difference between roll and biscuit here, too. But what's a bun? That's the real question. Alex |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Mrs.Duck Date: 17 Jan 01 - 01:21 PM Right-having lived in Hull and Greater Manchester and with Geoff who's from Bradford I get very confused but have sort of settled with tea cakes (or sometimes bread cakes but never barm) and those with fruit in are called currant tea cakes. French bread is long and thin and only garlic bread has garlic in it. Now I agree that crumpets and pikelets are differentiated by their depth and now to really confuse the friends accross the pond-a muffin is a flattened tea cake, slightly floury and delicious toasted and dripping with butter and syrup-thats syrup NOT treacle which is horrible black stuff!!! And then there are bloomers......... |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: The Walrus at work Date: 17 Jan 01 - 01:39 PM When I was a lad a "bloomer" was known locally as a "twist" (just to make things more awkward). Now then, Whatever happened to cottage loaves? Walrus |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Mrs.Duck Date: 17 Jan 01 - 03:12 PM They're still out there Walrus but not as many as there used to be. Not so many small bakeries either. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Kim C Date: 17 Jan 01 - 03:28 PM Alex, I think a bun could be described as a large roll meant to hold something else, like a hamburger or a hot dog and Spaw don't you even DARE say anything. ;) |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Mrs.Duck Date: 17 Jan 01 - 03:51 PM A bun is sweet and would probably be called a muffin in the US. You can have cream buns chocolate buns or iced buns. I would put my burger in a bap! |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: GUEST,LynnT Date: 17 Jan 01 - 04:13 PM I believe the seaweed bread is "laver" bread not larva -- since laver is a kind of dulse harvested along that coast. Seem likely? Or more so than bread baked with grubs (larvae) ? LynnT |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Greyeyes Date: 17 Jan 01 - 04:44 PM Laverbread of course has nothing to do with bread as such, it's a sort of a joke name, it's just cooked seaweed, usually eaten for breakfast. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Llanfair Date: 17 Jan 01 - 04:45 PM I MISS barm cakes. And/or oven bottoms, which are bigger and slightly overcooked. Here, the bakery sells "bara da" literally "good bread". And it is, too!! Cheers, Bron. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: InOBU Date: 17 Jan 01 - 04:57 PM Down here on the lower east side of New York, our slavic neighbors make a light egg bread called Challah ... the ch is pronounced in the back of the throat, as if you were hocking up a gob of lougie to spit at the baker (which during the 1930's many of these bakers where doing to my mum's people... but that is another story). Challah is very nice, sort of sweet bread, very good with vodka and borsht as you all will find after the revolution (again, another story). Up in Canada, among Innu, a Native hunter/gatherer people I works with (and yet another story) they make a bread called Banoch bread. They told me the Scotish trappers taught them to make it, but they don't know what the word means. I told them it means white, or whitish of white... white bread. Being out of bread and storries, I remain Yours in the One Big Union Larry (sometimes called judge whitebread... you guessed it... another story) |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: MudGuard Date: 17 Jan 01 - 05:00 PM Depending on time of day I call my bread either "breakfast" or "lunch" or "dinner", and sometimes "midnight snack" !-) MudGuard |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: MudGuard Date: 17 Jan 01 - 05:00 PM Depending on time of day I call my bread either "breakfast" or "lunch" or "dinner", and sometimes "midnight snack" !-) MudGuard |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: MudGuard Date: 17 Jan 01 - 05:02 PM Sorry for double posting, my phone line went dead ... |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 17 Jan 01 - 05:18 PM Bannock - small flat loaf, often made with oatmeal. Scotland and Northern England. And I think in parts pof Ireland as well. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Kim C Date: 17 Jan 01 - 05:46 PM No, see, Mrs. Duck, there's a Bun (like for a hamburger or a hot dog or a sloppy joe), then there's a Honey Bun which could also be called a Sweet Roll. A Muffin is an entirely different animal. Now even I'm getting confused. What was it the guy said about pornography? Something like I don't know how to explain it but I know it when I see it? That's the difference between a Bun, a Honey Bun and a Muffin. I think............. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: GUEST,ALBO Date: 17 Jan 01 - 05:57 PM And that, my friends, is what Folk Music is all about! Leon Albo |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Giac Date: 17 Jan 01 - 06:05 PM Ya'll are starvin' me to death! Think I'l go make a dodger of cornbread. Heat up the oven, put a little grease in an iron skillet, get the skillet hot, throw in a little plain cornmeal, put it back in the oven til the cornmeal browns, then pour in the batter. That's popcornbread. Lots of butter on it. And no sugar in cornbread, please. For breakfast or supper, I like those big old cathead biscuits, with butter, and maybe some sorghum molasses or red clover honey. Gaaaaak, I'm drowning in drool. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: InOBU Date: 17 Jan 01 - 06:36 PM Yup, Kev... two nn in Bannock, but not oatmeal anymore in Quebec's forrests. Cheers, Larry |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Banjer Date: 17 Jan 01 - 06:51 PM Well' since 'Spaw seems to be absent from this thread I will attempt to stand in his stead....Kim C is absolutely right in her description of biscuits and rolls. The rolls generaly have yeast in them and the biscuits don't. My high school math teacher was a poor old gal from north of the Mason Dixon line and she didn't know squat....Nice lady, but dumber than a box of rocks. She kept tryin' to teach us that Pie are square, tain't so, Miss Campbell, pie are ROUND, cornbread are square. Never could convince her of that....And for those inquiring minds that asked, buns are what you sit on whilst eating your biscuits or cornbread...Unnerstan' now? |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Stewie Date: 17 Jan 01 - 07:01 PM In Oz, the bread shapes into which you put ham and salad, hamburgers, hotdogs etc are called rolls, not buns. Buns are sweet things with icing, cream, currants, jam etc. --Stewie. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: blt Date: 17 Jan 01 - 10:06 PM There's fry bread, which is basically fried bread, the recipe varies depending on who taught you to make it (I was taught by a woman from the Cheyenne River reservation in South Dakota, so yeast, lots of Crisco, white flour, some sugar, pinch of salt, fry it up and eat with lots of butter and wos'api (choke cherry jam). Then there's New England brown bread, which my grandma made in an old Maxwell House coffee can, but I don't know how. blt |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Snuffy Date: 17 Jan 01 - 10:17 PM And what about all the foreign breads that have gained popularity in Britain in recent years? Ciabatta and crissini(sp?), nans, chapatis, pittas. BTW I have an old Victorian cookbook with a recipe for Yorkshire Pie Clates which I assume to be pikelets. Anyone else heard of pie clates? Wassail! V |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Dave the Gnome Date: 18 Jan 01 - 04:53 AM Talking of furin' breads, I found one in Safeways the other day called Anadama (Or something similar) from the US of A - very nice it was too. Moistened with molases but not too sweet - very odd shape - any of you statesiders got a recipe? Cheers DtG |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: GUEST,Toogan Date: 18 Jan 01 - 05:51 AM And what about dough boys in Australia? Made of dough (surpise!) wrapped around a strong twig from a gum tree and cooked over the camp fire. Slide them off the stick, and fill with golden syrup. Serve with billy tea and lean back and look at the Milky Way and the Southern Cross. Heaven on a stick!! Then we have lamingtons, and pavs (pavlovas), and pikelets (sort of small pancakes served with butter, strawberry jam and cream), and butterfly cakes, and wine trifle, and chocolate crackles and white christmas and heavenly hash ........... Yum yum. And the word "dosh" comes India. And all the above is made by the hugs and kisses (the misses {wife}) |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Banjer Date: 18 Jan 01 - 06:35 AM It's not so much WHAT you call your bread as it is HOW you call it. I have found that a simple 'Here Bread, Bread, Bread doesn't work well. Usually I find you have to sneak up on it and grab it when it's not looking. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: GUEST,Fibula Mattock Date: 18 Jan 01 - 06:52 AM Just stun it with a rolling pin Banjer, and it won't run off again. ;-) One of the happiest days I had recently was when I discovered you can buy soda farls in Bristol. Obviously I don't get out much... I still have to make my own potato bread though. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Troll Date: 18 Jan 01 - 08:19 AM Larry, Challa is an egg bread that is traditionally eaten on Shabes(the Sabath) by observant Jews. It is braided prior to baking and it makes the BEST toast ever with butter and strawberry jam. That's from the Memsahibs side of the family. From mine, cornbread, and I don't mean that crap mix they sell that has sugar in it and no texture and tastes like sawdust. I mean real cornbread, made of stone-ground meal and baked in the oven in an iron skillet. If you want some REALLY fine cornbread, save the grease next time you cook a goose ( sorry all you vegans) and use that instead of vegetable oil. You won't regret it. We call corn sticks "pones". troll |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: MMario Date: 18 Jan 01 - 08:39 AM there are at least 400 recipes for anadama bread on the net. one of them is here |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 18 Jan 01 - 09:13 AM Does Yorkshire Pudding count as bread? I still prefer the way we had it, which was flat and stodgy and glutinous instead of fluffy and risen, like they say it's supposed to be. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Kim C Date: 18 Jan 01 - 09:46 AM Troll, I make cornbread from scratch in my iron skillet! Ever used blue cornmeal? Awesome! I will admit to using cornbread in a box once in a while, though - it's cheap and works great after a long day at work when you don't feel like washing a bunch of mixing bowls. :) I also like to make hoecakes - cornmeal, an egg, a little milk. Fry em up in the skillet. Yum! |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Dave the Gnome Date: 18 Jan 01 - 09:47 AM I agree with McGraths theory on Yorkshire puds - but then again I am a Lancashire heathen! My granny used to make a large, flat, stodgy YP in a roasting tin, fill it with hot baked beans, cover it with grated cheese and then grill it so the cheese melted. Good cheap midweek meal! She also made a mean bread pud - not bread and butter pud with individual slices of bread but again a soggy mass made by crumbing the old bread, soaking the crumbs in milk, mixing in dried fruit, spices etc and then baking it. Lay on yer tum like a lead weight but could sustain you through 3 days down't'pit ....;-) DtG |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: VickiS Date: 18 Jan 01 - 12:08 PM In addition to regular bread, we also eat tortillas. A flat foldable bread made out of either corn or wheat. A fine addition from the Spanish part of the American West's culture. (Although I understand that in Spain, unlike in Mexico, a tortilla is an omelet.) If you like crunch, you can fry the tortilla before putting the fillings in or on. Traditional fillings are spicy ground cooked meat with cheese, lettuce and tomatoes. Or beans and rice. Bagels: a small tube of dough is curved so the ends join, making a circle about 5 inches across with a hole in the middle. The dough is supposedly first boiled and then baked. Usually served with cream cheese and lox. Associated with Jews and New York. Usually eaten in the morning or at noon. Donuts: the same shape as above, but formed by cutting the hole out of the middle of a circle of dough. Always fried and very sweet. Frequently topped with sugar, sugar glaze, frosting, sprikles or chocolate. Famous food for police officers in the US. Another morning food. Pita: Mediterraneun/Middle Eastern style flat bread. Muffins: small sweet breads often eaten for breakfast. Cooked in circular pans about 3 inches across. Usually 6 or 12 circles in a "muffin tin." While they can be bought at stores or bakeries, this is the bread only bread in this post I make at home.
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Troll Date: 18 Jan 01 - 12:22 PM KimC, I've never tried blue cornmeal. Don't know if we can get it here in Fla. If I can find some, I'll sure try it. DtG, your Gram's bread pudding sounds like the description of T.Pratchetts "Ankh Morpork Clootie Dumplings" which lay on the tongue like the lightest merengue, and on the stomach like a concrete bowling ball. And then there's Dwarf Bread, made of the finest grit and useful as lunch or as a weapon. Pratchett RULES! troll
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: GUEST,JohnB Date: 18 Jan 01 - 12:32 PM My teachers always told me that Pie was 22/7, or 3.142^&(^&etc. Anyhow in Canada we have ENGLISH MUFFINS, which were new to me when I arrived here, after being born and spending the first 27 years of my life in England. They are about 3-4" in Diameter and about 3/4- 1" thick packaged in packs of 4 or 6. They are "forksplit", which means that they are cut almost into 2 pieces and are made of sawdust. At least that's what it tastes like. They also sell "Scottish BAPS" of which I am not qualified to comment coming from Manchester. No mention of Parkin yet either, I guess that is a bit more of a cake. JohnB |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Bert Date: 18 Jan 01 - 12:33 PM Ah! memories. A loaf used to be a bloomer, farmhouse, tin or cottage. Now it's baguette, or pain de compagne. Talking of Middle Eastern bread, how come no one has mentioned 'barbary'? A long flat loaf with ridges in it so that you get more crust, mmmmm. I make it occasionally, but it takes practise to get it right. You make a kind of flattish oval loaf about seven inches by four, and when it's raised you push it down with your knuckles to make four grooves along it's length, then you stretch it out to about 16 inches. and pop it in the oven. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Bill D Date: 18 Jan 01 - 12:56 PM hmmmmm... I'm late to the thread as usual. We all know that bread comes in VERY many styles and shapes and consistancies in the world...but the interesting thing about this thread to me is just how fond the English, in particular, seem to be of finding quaint, folksy, colloquial, regional NAMES for things....some of which seem to have little or no relationship to the item. Bloomers, baps, balm cakes, darls, doshes and barmbacks simply don't register in my brain! *grin* It is almost as if various regions and classes were using language as a way to identify themselves to each other, the way various regions in the USA do. Any feelings on this? and I never WILL be able to identify a major meal as 'tea'.(People here argue constantly about when one eats 'lunch', 'dinner', 'supper'...etc., and often have their egos and identities involved, just as they do about how to pronounce 'tomato' and 'salmon'.
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 18 Jan 01 - 01:40 PM Dinner's the main meal of the day, whenever it takes place. Unless it's at teatime, in which case it's high tea.
So in the week it'd be dinner at lunchtime, and at weekend maybe it'd be dinner a bit later than teatime, on a Sunday anyway. And Christnmas Dinner is of course at lunchtime - except that it always falls behind schedule and ends up halfway to teatime. Lunch is what you pack in a lunchbox, if you aren't going to get a proper meal.
Confusion can arise when families with different understandings about such things - like when we had someone accept an invitatiion to Christmas Dinner under the impression it was in the evening. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Greyeyes Date: 18 Jan 01 - 05:21 PM Supper, of course, is if you have your dinner later than 9pm. I've mentioned Wiltshire Lardy cake on a previous thread, but as it's dough based it is really a bread rather than a cake, sounds disgusting but is delicious. Nobody's mentioned ginger bread yet, dark and sticky, best kept a few days before eating. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Linda Kelly Date: 18 Jan 01 - 05:30 PM In Coventry where I was brought up -a bread roll was a batch, lunch was at lunch time and dinner was an evening meal. If you had had a full lunch and not much of an evening meal you would have supper which was lighter ie soup or sandwiches around 8pm. When I was a child we used to have tea around 4 sandwiches cake etc and my parents ate their dinner later on. I read the Royal family have breakfast lunch high tea and dinner - no wonder they have so many clothes they must go up a dress size every year! Talk about Who ate all the pies!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Linda Kelly Date: 18 Jan 01 - 05:32 PM My husband has just said that the Royal family need to eat that much to soak up all the gin! |
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Subject: What do I call my bread? From: Bernard Date: 18 Jan 01 - 05:42 PM |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Dave Wynn Date: 18 Jan 01 - 05:48 PM You lot need to get out more often...bread comes from supermarkets and is called Warburtons around here. It's wrapped in airproof , waterproof and rot proof wrappings and is made with heavily bleached and very properly processed WHITE flour. Plenty of preservatives to keep it soft and antioxidants to keep it from going off. Sorted! Nine billion names of bread indeed!! Spot |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Dave the Gnome Date: 19 Jan 01 - 04:46 AM It is the colloquial names I started off with but the thread has been just as interesting anyway. I agree dinner is always the main meal of the day, but what do you call it if you main meal is breakfast??? And if Spot thinks bread is called Warburtons his owners are too rich - at our house it's Aldi at 15p a loaf.... DtG |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Jock Morris Date: 19 Jan 01 - 07:12 AM When I were a sprog I used to go home at lunchtime for my dinner and then have my tea, the main meal of the day, when my Dad got home from work. Confusing isn't it:-) Scott |
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Subject: Does anybody read these message headers? From: Snuffy Date: 19 Jan 01 - 08:52 AM Dinner was always at mid-day; lunch was the ketchup sandwiches that I took to school to eat at the mid-morning break with my 1/3 pint of free school milk; tea was the main evening meal; and supper was just a light snack later on (cocoa and bicuits or a jam butty, etc) Wassail! V |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Allan C. Date: 19 Jan 01 - 09:04 AM Snuffy, many of us have two separate opportunities to read the headings. Lots of us have discovered the "New Messages Since Your Last Visit" in the Quick Links. In that listing the headers, rather than the thread title, show up. Of course, whether we get here through the NMSYLV or by way of the Main Forum Page, we still get to the same place. I don't know about everyone else, but I usually see the headers. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: GUEST,Fibula Mattock Date: 19 Jan 01 - 09:08 AM No Snuffy, I obviously don't as I wondered what the heck Allan C was going on about... I'll read 'em from now on though! (Are people using the headers as some form of subliminal messaging...? It might just work!) |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Dave the Gnome Date: 19 Jan 01 - 09:26 AM BoooHooo Sob - I'm totaly confused. I think I'll curl up in the foetal position under my desk until someone explains what the last 2 messages were about.... DtG |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: CamiSu Date: 19 Jan 01 - 09:27 AM My brother tells me that the name of Anadama bread comes from when Anna's husband had to eat his sandwiches made from that heavy dark stuff, was heard to mutter "Anna, Damn ya". But it's real good with butter. And how does one make flat Yorkshire Pud? BTW a griddle is really good to make tortillas on and homemade flour 'tillas are sooooooo much better than the store bought kind. CamiSu |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Ella who is Sooze Date: 19 Jan 01 - 10:22 AM larva bread also has fish eggs in it and other suspect wobbly things... They sells it in the tescos here in Cardiff they does.... And I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot barge pole, never mind call it a nice name. yeuch! Ella |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Peter K (Fionn) Date: 19 Jan 01 - 02:26 PM Gnomic Dave, you sound a decent spud, I liked what you said in the (related?!) thread about hunger strikes, and above all, you know how to pronounce "scone." On that basis I'll gladly entice you out from under the desk by explaining that each and every post has its own header. About 999 times in a thousand we all just accept the default when posting (which is the thread title). And whether we do or we don't, none of us read them, unless getting into the threads via the "new messages since last visit" quicklink).On the basis of which, Snuffy has chosen to challenge the wisdom of Max in laying on this so often spurned luxury. More dangerous thread creep: On the way home from Crewe to Bilsthorpe on Tuesday, I paused in Bakewell to buy an original Bakewell pudding. Utterly disgusting of course, but I like to see these quaint traditions surviving. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Dave the Gnome Date: 19 Jan 01 - 02:35 PM Ah - all is now clear - Thanks Fionn. I like the connection between hunger strikes and bread as well - just up my (silly sense of humour) street. Serendipity or what? I was traveling from Nottingham to Manchester on Tuesday and decided to come up through Derbyshire (via Ashbourne - A515 and A6) instead of the boring old A50/M6. Passing the sign for Bakewell I was very tempted to go and buy a Bakewell Tart. Honest! But there the co-incidence ends - I decided to keep on the A6 and went through Buxton instead. Perhaps the mudcatish vibes were traveling through the ether but not quite strong enough at the time. This was at about 2pm-ish btw - when were you there? Twighlight zone noises - dedededededededede DtG |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Bernard Date: 19 Jan 01 - 04:16 PM Eeh! Spot, did you know that 'Warburtons' spelt backwards is 'Snot rub raw'? Dave and Fionn - what's the fastest cake in the world? ......scone! (only works if you pronounce 'scone' like 'gone' - 's gone!) |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Peter K (Fionn) Date: 19 Jan 01 - 08:09 PM Thanks for spelling it out Bernard *BG* Dave, Bakewell is on the A6, but I've sussed out what you meant (helped by eventually realising we were going in opposite directions!). I got to Buxton about 3pm and Bakewell soon after that. I wouldn't want to have been in the town if you'd asked for a Bakewell tart though. They do say that if you call a pudding a tart in Bakewell.... |
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Subject: Obviously someone does From: Snuffy Date: 19 Jan 01 - 10:05 PM Fionn I wasn't challenging the wisdom of Max - the message header is a very useful device. Many people use it to draw the attention of the DT 'Harvesters' to lyric or tune additions to an existing thread. I knew of its usefulness to the backroom boys (and girls) at Mudcat, I just wondered if any of us ordinary 'Catters really paid much attention to headers. See the header to this post for my conclusions. Wassail! V |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Dave the Gnome Date: 20 Jan 01 - 10:15 AM Just spotted that mysen, Fionn - should have said I turned north up the A6 instead. Anyway - how do you know I wanted a pudding? I may have wanted a tart after all.... *BG* DtG |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Dave Wynn Date: 20 Jan 01 - 07:24 PM This is really freaky...coz I once drove on the A6. Co-incidence city or what!! Spot.(the x-files) dog |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Peter K (Fionn) Date: 20 Jan 01 - 07:53 PM Thanks for explaining that, Snuffy. I've always thought the song harvesters must have a tough task. I'll try to remember to use the subject line if I'm posting lyrics. (I've noticed one or two people saying that lyrics have not got into the DT several months after they were posted. Might this be because no subject header was used?) |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Snuffy Date: 21 Jan 01 - 06:53 AM As long as you put "Add" in the header line, the harvesters should be able to find it. Sometimes I forget, then I have to go back and post a refresher with "Add" in it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Elise Date: 21 Jan 01 - 03:51 PM Leftover Challah on Saturday morning (or afternoon, when I get up) makes the world's best French toast. Especially when I take the time to bake the bread myself on Friday! Challah takes all day, though. 6-8 hours of rising time, and worth every minute of it. Pita bread is not unleavened. The pita recipe I have has you mix a sponge, which then sits overnight in the fridge. Good stuff. No one should ever eat that crap they sell as white bread in the grocery store. Anything that keeps indefinitely shouldn't be ingested, probably. Especially if it claims to be bread. I love this thread! |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Peter K (Fionn) Date: 21 Jan 01 - 08:23 PM What's Challah, Elise, and where's it from? It sounds like the kind of stuff I like to experiment with. Any chance you could post a recipe? |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Elise Date: 22 Jan 01 - 03:04 AM Fionn, Challah, as someone else mentioned nine million posts ago, is a rich egg bread, usually braided. It is the traditional bread eaten on Friday night for the Jewish Sabbath celebration. The recipe I use is from a book called The Book of Jewish Food by C. Roden. It's a wonderful book. Besides giving recipes, it explains many things about the Jewish people. Good reading as well as good eating. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Firecat Date: 22 Jan 01 - 10:35 AM I usually call it plastic! |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Little Hawk Date: 23 Jan 01 - 01:13 AM It doesn't matter what I call mine, it won't come. It just sits there and stares at me. - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Gypsy Date: 23 Jan 01 - 03:06 PM Anadama Bread Water 1 1/3 cup 1 egg 1 tablespoon applesauce 1/2 cup molasses dark salt 3/4 teaspoon vital gluten 1/4 cup cornmeal, 1/2 cup whole wheat flour yeast 2 to 3 teaspoons Let rise 3 times |
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Subject: RE: BS: What do you call your bread? From: Penny S. Date: 23 Jan 01 - 06:13 PM My Mum used to pull the kissing crust of the side of batch loaves and eat it on the way home - those layers of bread where the loaves touched, that peel off really easily, and taste warm and soft from the oven.... I need a baker with a proper brick oven - NOW! I need a small farmhouse loaf, that I can eat a third of by itself, and a third with butter, and a third with butter and strawberry jam - NOW! I should not have read this thread.... Penny |