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Martin Carthy: Nice Guy

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Zebedee 21 Jan 01 - 09:16 AM
Jeri 21 Jan 01 - 09:49 AM
RoyH (Burl) 21 Jan 01 - 09:57 AM
John Routledge 21 Jan 01 - 12:20 PM
GUEST,Geordie 21 Jan 01 - 02:40 PM
Garry Gillard 21 Jan 01 - 10:26 PM
GUEST,Alan Whittle 05 Apr 11 - 01:35 PM
Richard Bridge 05 Apr 11 - 02:43 PM
George Papavgeris 05 Apr 11 - 03:31 PM
GUEST,Alan Whittle 05 Apr 11 - 03:50 PM
GUEST,John MacKenzie 05 Apr 11 - 04:01 PM
Herga Kitty 05 Apr 11 - 04:09 PM
Little Robyn 05 Apr 11 - 05:45 PM
GUEST,Banjiman 05 Apr 11 - 05:50 PM
GUEST,Betsy 05 Apr 11 - 06:13 PM
Steve Gardham 05 Apr 11 - 06:28 PM
GUEST,Alan Whittle 05 Apr 11 - 07:31 PM
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Subject: Martin Carthy: Nice Guy
From: Zebedee
Date: 21 Jan 01 - 09:16 AM

I'm sure that many of you are aware of the disquiet that has ensued for many years regarding Paul Simon 'stealing' Scarborough Fair from Martin Carthy.

I've just been looking at the Waterson Carthy web site, where I found the following. It's quite long, but I feel deserves to be reproduced in full.

Ed

'Martin appeared onstage with Paul Simon at the Hammersmith Apollo during the last week of October. The "Scarborough Fair Saga" was finally put to bed as the two of them performed it together. Here's a word or two from Martin about the experience.

"It was a great moment and the whole thing is about as satisfying as it could be. And all because of a phone call from Paul a week or so beforehand with, among other things, an invitation to his London gig, an invitation which turned out to be an invitation to sing. So I accepted. The feeling has been growing more and more in me that, at the very very least, it was time to let go. Putting it quite bluntly: even if I had cause to be aggrieved - which I was becoming less and less sure was ever really the case - I cannot be a victim all my life. In fact, in an interview ten years ago or so, Paul thanked publicly all the musicians and others he had known in England in the sixties, and this gave a shove to that train of thought in me. In interviews more recently I have found myself, when faced with the inevitable question, less and less willing to go through this "trudge through the grudge". What I had felt was, I think, more to do with injured pride than actually being cheated by the man. It has become apparent over the years that any such cheating was done by others in the the course of or in the aftermath of lawsuits.

For a fair time now the music he makes has been telling me one important thing and finally I have taken notice. That this is a good man. Gracious too. His musicians love him and feel valued. They respond by being just about the best band they could possibly be. Simply hearing them play that night was to be given a masterclass. I was quite nervy at the thought of going out there and singing but Paul himself made it very easy. What else is there to say? Except that I left the Hammersmith Apollo a very happy man, with a weight off my mind and a real feeling of release. And all it took was to sing and talk with him at the end of the London leg of his tour. This is someone who values the life he has led - all of it - and detests the idea of bad blood. I'm thankful to him for having the imagination and the grace to pick up the phone and set up what has made an end of this nonsense. It's over."'


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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy: Nice Guy
From: Jeri
Date: 21 Jan 01 - 09:49 AM

It shows that the more people that get involved in something, the greater chance for it being blown out of proportion. I've seen the Carthy/Simon thing raised numerous times in various places on the internet, resulting in fans of either artist arguing against the other one. I'm very happy to see this situation conclude with both artists turning out to be "nice guys" and showing mutual respect.


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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy: Nice Guy
From: RoyH (Burl)
Date: 21 Jan 01 - 09:57 AM

In all the years I've known Martin, and it's a lot of years believe me, I've never found him other than a genuinely good bloke. He has far more reason than most to play 'big timer' but he doesn't. He loves the music with passion and intensity, and respects the efforts of all who make music at whatever level. He is always ready to play at the smallest folk club, he sits in to listen to all the floor singers, and gives encouragement and advice whenever he can. Martin has many musical gifts and he is prodigal with them all, but his gifts as a gracious, graceful, sensitive man of integrity are what I admire most. I am proud to be a part of a community that includes him.


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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy: Nice Guy
From: John Routledge
Date: 21 Jan 01 - 12:20 PM

Many thanks Ed. It may have been years before I learned of "It's over."

Heart warming news indeed. Even a huge PR machine could not create a better image than I already have of Martin Carthy.


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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy: Nice Guy
From: GUEST,Geordie
Date: 21 Jan 01 - 02:40 PM

I once met Martin Carthy, briefly, in a Pub in Truo, Cornwall...he is every bit the Gentleman. He was gracious and helpful..giving me an adress in London where I could buy music books. Sometimes we forget to aknowledge the good guys..here's to Martin Carthy..a real fine bloke.

Geordie


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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy: Nice Guy
From: Garry Gillard
Date: 21 Jan 01 - 10:26 PM

I too have only had the pleasure of meeting Martin Carthy once, when he was here in Western Australia. And although he is obviously a really nice guy I was so in awe of the great man that I'm not sure if I got across that I am the guy who maintains the OTHER Martin Carthy website.

I wonder if he's ever looked at it ...

Garry


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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy: Nice Guy
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle
Date: 05 Apr 11 - 01:35 PM

I followed that link and i ended up on an Australian University site - something about Cockatoos.

What could be the perceived relationship between Martin Carthy and Cockatoos?


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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy: Nice Guy
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 05 Apr 11 - 02:43 PM

Agreed. Martin Carthy: nice guy.


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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy: Nice Guy
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 05 Apr 11 - 03:31 PM

Hear, hear! Martin is one of the nicest people in the whole music scene. His contribution through his behaviour is as great as his musical legacy.


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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy: Nice Guy
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle
Date: 05 Apr 11 - 03:50 PM

I wonder if MC ever followed the link and thought......cockatoos?


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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy: Nice Guy
From: GUEST,John MacKenzie
Date: 05 Apr 11 - 04:01 PM

One day I was waiting for the Edinburgh train at Inverness, when I saw Martin in the queue for the same train. Well we travelled together as far as Perth where I had to change for Glasgow, but I tell you, it was a very pleasant journey. We reminisced on those we knew in days gone by, discussed Dave Swarbrick's health, and shared a cup of coffee, and a few anecdotes.
Indeed a great bloke, and good company.


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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy: Nice Guy
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 05 Apr 11 - 04:09 PM

My first recollections of MC are from my first Sidmouth festival in 1968 when I was blown away hearing him playing with Swarb - whose 70th birthday it is today! And the privilege of buying Martin a takeaway meal when he performed at the Oxford Heritage folk club in 1971(for which, IIRC, Heritage never reimbursed me...).

Kitty


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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy: Nice Guy
From: Little Robyn
Date: 05 Apr 11 - 05:45 PM

Hi Alan,
I couldn't see cockatoos or kangaroos or anything at that site so I googled Garry and found this.

Cheers,
Robyn


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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy: Nice Guy
From: GUEST,Banjiman
Date: 05 Apr 11 - 05:50 PM

..... I hope so, he's staying at my house on Friday!


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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy: Nice Guy
From: GUEST,Betsy
Date: 05 Apr 11 - 06:13 PM

Burl you summed him up perfectly and I couldn't improve one word you wrote .Well done .


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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy: Nice Guy
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 05 Apr 11 - 06:28 PM

INTEGRITY


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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy: Nice Guy
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle
Date: 05 Apr 11 - 07:31 PM

Brilliant! I just found the cockatoos.


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