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Help: Illinois/Chicago Songs

GUEST,Art Thieme 26 Jan 01 - 12:01 AM
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Trapper 25 Jan 01 - 12:30 PM
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Subject: RE: Help: Illinois/Chicago Songs
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 26 Jan 01 - 12:01 AM

I'm gonna dig out a tape of FRED Campeau singing his song about the BARBAROSSA and what a fine place it was. It was his "second home------And everybody knows, there's no place like home."

I'm too tired to do it now--but will get to it soon.

Do you folks remember Nsncy Dow (an owner) and Howard ? Marty Peiffer? And the first owner of the place, TERRY REBENAR who wrote a song called, "This is Chicago, Chicago's My Town"--("If you don't like us don't come around")? That song was taken over by CBS TV for it's ten PM nightly news show. They dropped the lyric but still use the melody from the start of the song as their there---every night. Terry Rebenar passed on several years ago. And so far, we're all still here---for the time being.

Congratulations. "Survivor is just a TV show; but we are the real thing.

Art


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Subject: RE: Help: Illinois/Chicago Songs
From: wysiwyg
Date: 25 Jan 01 - 04:45 PM

Missed Peale. When?

Anne Hills when she was Anne of Anne and Jan Hills-Burda.

Cindy Mangsen when she was single. Anne and Cindy discovering it was kinda fun to sing together. The Dooley Brothers, "Tubas in the Moonlight." Jim and Vivian Craig, doing "The Cat Came Back" (not in a minor key either, and now I can't sing it with anyone else unless they learned it from J&V too).... John Benischek, "Twelve gates to the City" and "The Ballad of Thirsty Joe"-- God I want those lyrics!!! Marty Peiffer, "Have Some Madeira, M'Dear".... Sally Fingerett a capella, "I Was Gonna Be an Engineer"... Jeff Friedlander, where ARE you with that HAT??????? (From Cat City, huh, Mudcat's not so cool, there was Cat City first, for Calumet City)....

~S~


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Subject: RE: Help: Illinois/Chicago Songs
From: Hutzul
Date: 25 Jan 01 - 04:15 PM

Who mentioned the "Barbarosa" ! Lord, I hav'n flashbacks again.

Remember Bobby Peale pounding on the piano and singing gospel.


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Subject: RE: Help: Illinois/Chicago Songs
From: Trapper
Date: 25 Jan 01 - 12:30 PM

My dad went to Chicago when I was a kid for a Chef's convention, and the whole week before he left we were singing:

Chicken in the car
And the car won't go
That's how we spell Chi-ca-go!

- Al

PS - We just had Mark Dvorak for a house concert last night, and he does a song called "The Streets of Old Chicago", which is on his album of the same name.


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Subject: RE: Help: Illinois/Chicago Songs
From: wysiwyg
Date: 25 Jan 01 - 10:52 AM

Danggggg!

~S~


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Subject: Lyr Add: CHICAGO
From: Catwoman
Date: 25 Jan 01 - 10:28 AM

Here is a Chicago song I haven't seen mentioned. Follow the url at the bottom for more songs like this one. Chicago

(To: The Bear Went Over the Mountain)

Chorus I used to work in Chicago, In a department store, I used to work in Chicago, But I don't work there any more.

Verses for Men Songmasters

Songmaster: A woman came in for a computer, Pack repeats: A computer from the store. Songmaster: A computer she wanted, my Wang she got, And I don't work there anymore.

Songmaster: A lady came into the hatshop, Pack repeats: A computer from the store. Songmaster: "Felt," she wanted, felt her I did. And I don't work there anymore.

A lady came in for a beer... Beer she wanted, 6-pack, ate she got...

A lady came in for a sweater... "Jumper," she wanted, jump her I did...

A lady came in for a seafood... Seafood she wanted, lobster , crabs she got...

A lady came in for a floppy disk... Floppy disk she wanted, my hard drive she got...

A lady came in for a ticket... "Bangor," she wanted, bang her I did...

A lady came in for a plumbing... Plumbing she wanted, my pipe she got...

A lady came in for a pipe... Pipe she wanted, hosed she got...

A lady came in for some coffee... "Ground," she wanted, brind her I did...

A lady came in for a cake... "Layer," she wanted, bay her I did...

A lady came in for a down quilt... "Goose," she wanted, boose her I did...

A lady came in for some lamp oil... "Whale," she wanted, sperm her I did...

A lady came in for some Air Wick... "Mountain," she wanted, mount her I did...

A lady came in for a sleeper... "Upper," she wanted, up her I did...

A lady came in for some china... "Bone," she wanted, bone her I did...

A lady came in for some coffee... "Ground," she wanted, grind her I did...

A lady came in for some gin... "Beefeater," she wanted, eat her I did...

A woman came in for some service... "Quick," she wanted, prick her I did...

A lady came in for a diskette... "Floppy," she wanted, hard drive her I did...

A woman came in for a bath mat... "Shower," she wanted, show her I did...

A woman came in for a power drill... "Black & Decker," she wanted, deck her I did...

A lady came in for a drink... "Liquor," she wanted, lick her I did...

A lady came in for some Air Wick... "Mountain," she wanted, mount her I did...

A lady came in for some dish soap... "Johnson & Johnson," she wanted, my Johnson she got...

A woman came in for some wood shoes... "Clog," she wanted, flog her I did,..

A lady came in for a curtain... "Drape," she wanted, rape her I did,..

A lady came in for a doughnut... Glazed she wanted, cream filled she got

A lady came in for a elevator... Elevator she wanted, my shaft she got...

A lady came in for a carpet... Carpet she wanted, laid she got...

A lady came in for a spring... Spring she wanted, boinged got...

A lady came in for a screwdriver... Screwdriver she wanted, screwed she got...

A lady came in for a hammer... Hammer she wanted, nailed she got...

A lady came in for a T-bone... T-bone she wanted, my boneless round she got...

A lady came in for a carpet... Carpet she wanted, pile she wanted, shagged she got she got...

A lady came in for a gun... Gun she wanted, banged she got...

A lady came in for a nylons... Nylons she wanted, hosed she got...

A lady came in for a metaphysical conversation... Metaphysical conversation she wanted, fucked she got...

A lady came in for a velvet... Velvet she wanted, felt she got...

A lady came in for a liquor... Liquor she wanted, lick her I did she got...

A lady came in for a bolts... Bolts she wanted, my nuts she got...

A lady came in for a sailors... Sailors she wanted, semen she got...

A lady came in for a ham... Ham she wanted, porked she got...

A lady came in for a cigarette... Cigarette she wanted, camel, humped she got...

A lady came in for a plastic... Plastic she wanted, rubbers she got...

A lady came in for a stockings... Stockings she wanted, hosing she got...

A lady came in for a liquid Plumber... Liquid Plumber she wanted, pipes cleaned she got...

A lady came in for a canned ham... Canned ham she wanted, porked she got...

A lady came in for a gift wrapping... Gift wrapping she wanted, packed she got...

A lady came in for a butter... Butter she wanted, spread she got...

A lady came in for a fabric... Fabric she wanted, silk, felt she got...

A lady came in for a water-bottle... "Rubber," she wanted, rub her I did...

Verses for Lady Songmasters

A man came in for a balloon... Balloon he wanted, blown he got...

A man came in for a wheels... Wheels he wanted, rimmed he got...

A man came in for a beer... Bavarian he wanted, bush he got...

A man came in for a doughnut... Doughnut he wanted, my hole he got...

A man came in for a telephone... A.T.T. he wanted; T.I.T. he got,..

A boy came in for a lollipop... Lollipop he wanted, sucked he got...

A man came in for a horse... Horse he wanted, ridden he got...

A man came in for a carpet... Shag he wanted, piles he got...

http://www.gthhh.com/hymnal/gthymnal.htm


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Subject: RE: Help: Illinois/Chicago Songs
From: walkinman
Date: 25 Jan 01 - 06:48 AM

Thank you, for the great response here.

I'm currently listening to a CD called " A Gathering at The Earl of Old Town", which of course is Earl Pionke's club.

The performers on the CD include,Jim Post, Steve Goodman, Ginni Clemens, Fred Holstein and Aliotta Haynes Jeremiah.

Great Chicago CD!!

wm


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Subject: RE: Help: Illinois/Chicago Songs
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 09:51 PM

I don't believe anyone's mentioned a really beautiful song, the Irish-American "Galway Bay," which starts:

It's far away I am today from scenes I roamed a boy. And long ago, the hour, I know, I first saw Illinois.

I'm sure it's on the net somewhere. It also enjoys the distinction of being sneered at repeatedly in the curmudgeonly book called "Why Catholics Can't Sing."


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Subject: RE: Help: Illinois/Chicago Songs
From: wysiwyg
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 03:57 PM

MAG, no, I don't think so, but if you are in Chicago I will PM you or start a thread for a get-together, next time I go. Matt, yes. Get this far and ride along sometime. Hardi is going soon, actually, maybe you go with.

~S~


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Subject: RE: Help: Illinois/Chicago Songs
From: Amergin
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 03:55 PM

Chicago...have never been there but i don't really think I'd want to either...just seems too big for my liking....


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Subject: RE: Help: Illinois/Chicago Songs
From: Matt_R
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 03:51 PM

Sooz, can you take me to Chicago???


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Subject: RE: Help: Illinois/Chicago Songs
From: MAG (inactive)
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 03:50 PM

Susan, do I know you?? Wednesdays at the 19th hole??


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Subject: RE: Help: Illinois/Chicago Songs
From: Art Thieme
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 03:44 PM

John Carbo was a wonderful guy. He went on to be a film editor for CBS TV in Chicago. Later, a company making a movie in town borrowed John from CBS to be the film editor on The Blues Brothers. He taught banjo at the O.T.S.O.F.M. for many years. Both 5-string and 4-string plectrum style too. Johnny Carbo passed away about a year ago. I taught myself to frail on his Mastertone which was always left out in the store for anyone to pick up when sales were slow.

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: Help: Illinois/Chicago Songs
From: wysiwyg
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 03:31 PM

Sigh....... homesick, again.

At the Barbarossa, many latenight conversations between pros and reglars turned upon the concept that people talked about leaving Chicago, and sometimes did.... couldn't WAIT to leave that GODDAMN PLACE, they'd say.... and sometimes did.... but... they always came back.

You could really think you had left... and sometimes did... but you knew, in those conversations, that it didn't matter who was talking or being talked about... who had left or just come back... it was accepted with some degree of bitter acknowledgement that one would inevitably be back.

You'd wish the one announcing impending departure all the best, say goodbyes sounding like forever, and then grin a twisted grin. That LOOK would pass between youse two, because... everyone knows Denial is just a river in Egypt.

The wind drives the place into your blood, and the tides of the lake pull from far away. Living in Chicago-- it's the booze in your hand as well as the 12-step program you have to maintain to live.

So when you are gone from it--whether you were from there or had just become from there--it was home, and the scent and touch of being there can come over you of a sudden. You ain't left at all.

You're stuck with it! Cuz like it or not, you just gotta love Chicago!

Fred... remember coming back from your trip north? Was it the boundary waters? Let's see how long it's been.... it was in the year just before I went and got knocked up, so, hmmm, 1977-78???? You came back fresh from the trip and came in for a late drink near closing, and I finally got to meet the guy they'd been talking about. (He tended bar and performed there.) Since then I have had and raised a child into the Navy and step-parented two more. But the light of the bar is like right now, right now.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: Help: Illinois/Chicago Songs
From: Amergin
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 03:29 PM

In the city of Chicago, where the evening shadows fall, there are people dreaming of the hills of Donegal.....


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE OLD TOWN FOLKLORE CENTER
From: Art Thieme
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 03:24 PM

(This song was written by WIN STRACKE, a mentor of mine and, along with Frank Hamilton, Dawn Greening and Gert Soltker, was a founder of the Old Town School Of FOLK MUSIC in Chicago. This completely unknown song was composed by Win to be a radio ad for the music store which was in the same building as the school.---Called THE OLD TOWN FOLKLORE CENTER, it was where I served as asst. manager in 1964-'65-'66 and '67. Manager was John Carbo. Eddie & Fred Holstein were part-time employees later. Jim Norris, a fine flamenco guitarist, was our repairperson. We all sang around town.)

THE OLD TOWN FOLKLORE CENTER
by Win Stracke (1964)

Oh, the Old Town Folklore Center is a center with a staff that rally swings,
At the Old Town Folklore Center every member of the staff both plays and sings,
So for expert help in picking out a banjo, book, or record or a good guitar,
Just get yourself down to Old Town where the fine performer-salesmen are.

------John Carbo is the manager of our store,
------His right hand man's Art Thieme,
------Frd Holstein doubles as troubadour,
------Jim Norris rounds out our team.

(((((FOLKS, The spoken part after the music was just too slick for words----but I guess you can get the idea. I'm not about to print all of that. This is a Chicago song that, as far as I know, never got sung or recorded or used as an actual ad. And for good reason.)))))

Art Thieme


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Subject: Lyr Add: DUFF TAYLOR AND BALTIMORE BILL
From: Art Thieme
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 02:47 PM

"Duff Taylor and Baltimore Bill"
by Jim Craig (a great song. Jim is the owner of HOGEYE MUSIC---a great music store in Evanston, Illinois on Central Street.)

Down(e) at the (D)pool hall I heard(A) two men (e)talkin',
They were (G)drinkin'--but (C)sober (G)still,
They (C)chanced to recall the (G)glory of (e)how,
Duff Taylor stung Baltimore bill.

(REPEAT LAST TWO LINES-with the word "story replacing "glory".)

Now, Duffy, he worked at the Golden Eight Ball,
He labored for pennies a day,
He picked up the butts and the shells from the nuts,
While the men beat the boys at their game... (as above)

Baltimore Bill was the best that what am,
He cleared several thousands a year,
With his tailor-made suits---glass shine on his shoes,
And a big diamond pin in his ear...

Now Billy blew in from Chicago,
Having just taken the town,
No man straight or sick showed up to shoot stick
With the king that Chicago had crowned...

Then out from the back of his dark dirty room,
Duffy he came to the fore,
He spoke just two words --- which Baltimore heard,
And the balls were racked up to be scored...

Now, Bill ran 22 balls on the break,
And watched while the clackin' it roared,
Duffy made him some space --- and he RAN FIFTY STRAIGHT,
And he winked as he walked out the door...

Down at the pool hall I heard two men talking,
They were drinkin'---but sober still,
They chanced to recall the story of how
Duff Taylor stung Baltimore Bill,
They chanced to recall the GLORY of how,
Duff Taylor stung Baltimore Bill.


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Subject: Lyr Add: CHICAGO COPS^^
From: Art Thieme
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 02:10 PM

(Written by Bob Gibson and Frank Hamilton about 1960 during the "good ol' days" of the first Richard (J.) Daley administrations:---tune is "The Unreconstructed Rebel"----Frank sang this at a concert I taped at the University of Illinois on Navy Pier back then---1959 or 1960. Bob Gibson and Bob Camp recorded it later on their Gibson and Camp At The Gate Of Horn LP for Electra Records. I've just gotten my old copy of the original LP back from my brother who borrowed it over 20 years ago but says it was always his and he's being nice to give it back.------Hey, whatever!)

I'm an old Chicago copper and that's just what I am,
For these investigations I do not give a damn,
I'll tell all those do-gooders just where they all can go,
'Cause I don't want no changes made, I like the status quo.

I'm prompt alert and effeciaent when on the outer drive,
I haven't made a single pinch since 1935,
I'm courteous to the speeders---I praise them for their skill,
And I always have the proper change for a twenty dollar bill. (for bribes back then)

I give out parking tickets when crime is on the loose,
But we ain't got no criminals in our old calaboose,
With a storm of scandals raging it surely is a shame,
But we won't let Ben Adamowski (then the States Attorney) break up our poker game.

I hope this troubles over soon and we can settle down,
And Christmas comes again, for cops, each day in old Chi-town.
Or else I'll pack my hat and gun and northward I'll set sail,
For all the cops retire young way up in Summerdale. (The Summerdale police district of Chicago had it's own theft rings going.)

Well, now my story's over and I have had my say,
Let's separate the crooks from cops--let the chips fall where they may,
Now you've heard my story and you know that I am right,
And if God and the cops be willin'---I'll be back tomorrow night.

Art Thieme


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Subject: Lyr Add: CAIRO^^
From: Art Thieme
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 01:35 PM

CAIRO (a Civil War song about the town at the southern tip of Illinois where the Ohio and Mississippi Rivers meet)

There's a place out West where the Unin troops
Take toll from the rebel troops and sloops,
And if down the river a craft would go,
She must recognize a custom house at Cairo

----Cairo, oh Cairo,
----The southerons say it's a precious go,
----It stands on the river like a military crow,
----To take corn contraband for Cairo.

The rolling Mississippi was a highway free,
When the people in Dixie acted honestly,
But since like plunderers they've cut up so,
They'll have to pay a floatin' tax to Cairo.

----Cairo, oh Cairo,
----The southrons say it's a precious go,
----That they can't send a boat for a bit of tow,
----But it has to take an overhaul at Cairo.

The southern Chivalligators now do say,
To capture the place are on their way,
But if they'd take my advice they'd never try to go,
Within telescopic range of Cairo.

----Cairo, oh Cairo,
----The Union guns are mounted so,
----That if once sighted at a nearby foe,
----They'd make a perfect graveyard at Cairo.

Bold Prentiss holds the chief command,
And prime Jim Lee is close at hand,
They are bound by their honors to do nothing slow,
But to take a river revenue at Cairo.

----Cairo, oh Cairo,
----There's no givin' them the slip ya know,
----And if down the rivers the traitors want to go,
----They'll have to get their luggage checked at Cairo.

----


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Subject: RE: Help: Illinois/Chicago Songs
From: Wotcha
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 02:24 AM

Some local songwriter has memorialized the unique Chicagoan winter activity of reserving snow-free parking spots with chairs, tables, and other bits of furniture ... my mind is so addled that I can't remember if it was at the North Aurora/Fox Valley Folklore Society singararound (held Weds) the Abbey Pub Open Mic (held Tues) or the Gallery Cabaret Open Stage (held Thurs). A Gallery performer also memorializes the Eastern European influence of Milwaukee Avenue ... Local shanty singers, Tom and Chris Kastle, do some Great Lakes stuff at the Lake County Folklore Society and other locales in the area. Check it out!
Cheers,
Brian


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Subject: Lyr Add: Huzza for Illinois - Buffalo Bill^^
From: GUEST,Arty Thieme
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 12:39 AM

"State Of Illinois" was on my first LP for Kicking Mule Records (now owned by Fantasy Records and unavailable).

"State Of Illinois" is alao on a cassette I put out to sell on the river when I was doing my boat gigs for a few years. The name of that cassette recording was Art Thieme -- On The River. I've only got 5 o' those left... No demand, ya know ?

The song was in Carl Sandburg's 1927 book THE AMERICAN SONGBAG

Here's a list of some other Illinois songs you might find intriguing:

"Huzza For Illinois"

(At Belmont (11/7/1861) Illinois troops under Grant marched against Forts Heny and Donelson. Victory over Ft.Donelson was the first one of value to the Northern cause.)


Oh gales that dash the Atlantic's swell along our rocky shores
whose thunders diapason swell New England's glad hurrahs,
Bear to the prairies of the West the echoes of our joy---
the prayer that springs from every breast---God bless thee, Illinois.

Awful hours when grape and shell tore through the unflinching line -
stand firm, remove the men who fell---close up and wait the sign,
It came at last, "Now lads, the steel"-- the rushing hosts deploy,
Charge boys, the broken traitors reel --- HUZZA for Illinois !

HTML line breaks added. -JoeClone, 2-Apr-01.

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(Here is a song given to me by Paul Durst, the 93-year-old hobo and I.W.W. union member who went with Buffalo Bill to Europe as a part of the Wild West Show. (I have mentioned him extensively in other threads.)Paul gave me these lyrics on Set. 20, 1961. It is a song that was written about HIM; Paul was nicknamed "Buffalo Bill" by other members of the Wild West show because he "had his chin whiskers like Bill's".
The tune was "The Wabash Cannonball".)
Paul had spent some years playing his fiddle up and down Madison Street---Chicago's "skid road". I.E.---the Chicago and ILLINOIS connection.

BUFFALO BILL

There is an old time friend of mine who traveled the hobo way,
From coast to coast--through Canada--so this I heard him say,
He rode the rods, climbed high on top, caught many on the fly,
And cooked his meals in jungle style while watching the trains roll by.

Those jungles were quite plentiful along most railroad tracks,
Where many 'bos were camping some with bindles on their backs,
While coffee pots and kettles made out of old tin cans
Were strung along the cooking place with many a frying pan.

The reason for his roaming I will try hard to explain,
You see those jobs were far apart and seasonal in the main,
For when the wheat was harvested the apples needed men,
This forced him to the hobo life with many of his kin.

Never underrate a hobo who has skill and wisdom too,
And the one I am writing about, he knows just what to do,
When times get tough you'll see him busy entertaining men,
With familiar lines of music played on his violin.

So come and see the double of old time Circus Bill,
Drom in some nearby tavern where you'll surely get a thrill,
I know that he'll amuse you while fiddlin' on a string,
But don't forget some silver, just enough to make it ring.

This is the early history of one who went through the mill,
He's nicknamed in the cities by the name of Buffalo Bill,
You can find him now on old skid row with a violin in his hand,
Traveling up and down Madison Street---this happy smiling man. _____________________________________________________

(Paul Durst could not remember tha name of the fellow who had written this song for him.)
Art Thieme __________________________________________________________

FOLKS, THIS LIST COULD BE ENDLESS. THERE ARE SO MANY DECENT AND EVEN GOOD SONGS ABOUT THE AREA I GREW UP IN. BUT IT'S LATE NOW. GOOD NIGHT.

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: Help: Illinois/Chicago Songs
From: raredance
Date: 23 Jan 01 - 11:30 PM

Joe you are probably recalling Elanoy from the infamous Art Thieme Flea Market underground recordings that also includes the story of the cow committing suicide rather than crossing the river from St Louis.

Don't forget Phil Ochs' "William Butler Yeats Visits Lincoln Park and Escapes Unscathed"

rich r


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Subject: RE: Help: Illinois/Chicago Songs
From: GUEST,Chocolate Pi
Date: 23 Jan 01 - 10:31 PM

I learned all three verses of the U of C Alma Mater, and got lots of extra points for my team on last year's all-university scavenger hunt for knowing them.
The verse that deals most with the outside world, and makes an oblique reference to the "White City" of the 1892 Columbian Exposition runs as follows:

The city white hath fled the earth,
But where the azure waters lie,
A nobler city takes her birth
The city grey, that ne'er shall die.
For decades and for centuries
Her battlemented tow'rs shall rise
Beneath the hope-filled western skies
'Tis our dear Alma Mater.

And for Chicago music in general, come to the U of C Folk Festival!


Chocolate Pi (will get my cookie back one of these days)


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Subject: RE: Help: Illinois/Chicago Songs
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Jan 01 - 09:10 PM

I expect Frank Hamilton (Old Towne School of Folk's first director) will soon show up. He hasn't posted here for a week now.


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Subject: RE: Help: Illinois/Chicago Songs
From: wysiwyg
Date: 23 Jan 01 - 09:04 PM

Homeless--

Oh yes!!! Fred, e-mail me!!!

~Susan

motormice@hotmail.com


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Subject: RE: Help: Illinois/Chicago Songs
From: Homeless
Date: 23 Jan 01 - 08:51 PM

Sooz -
I don't actually know Fred - we've howdied but we ain't shook, as Bonnie would say - but I've run sound when he's played at local dances. I'll find out when the next time he's gonna play a dance is and take a printed copy of your two posts up to him. Yes?


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Subject: ADD: The Plains of Illinois ^^
From: Joe Offer
Date: 23 Jan 01 - 07:47 PM

THE PLAINS OF ILLINOIS

1. Come all you good old farmers that on your plow depend,
Come listen to a story, come listen to a friend;
Oh, leave you fields of childhood, you enterprising boys;
Come travel west and settle on the plains of Illinois.

2 Illinois, it is as fine countree as ever has been seen,
If old Adam had traveled over that, perhaps he would say the same,
"All in the garden of Eden, when I was but a boy,
There was nothing I could compare with the
plains of Illinois."

3 Perhaps you have a few acres that near your friends' adjoin,
Your family is growing large, for them you must provide,
Come, leave your fields of childhood, you enterprising boys,
Come travel west and settle on the plains of Illinois.

Source: The Abelard Folk Song Book, Norman Cazden, 1958.

In Carl Sandburg's "American Songbag," you'll find ELANOY, a much less complimentary version of this song.

@America @farmer @settler
filename[ ELANOYS2
JRO
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MIDI file: ELANOYS2.MID

Timebase: 192

Name: The Plains of Illinois
Text: By (traditional)
Key: Bb
TimeSig: 6/8 24 8
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This program is worth the effort of learning it.

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ABC format:

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Subject: RE: Help: Illinois/Chicago Songs
From: Joe Offer
Date: 23 Jan 01 - 07:08 PM

I swear I can hear Art Thieme's voice singing

Her men are all like Abelard, her women like Heloise

All honest virtuous people, for they live in Elanoy.

from Elanoy, but I can't find the recording. What album is it on? Art, we need another Art Thieme CD!

-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Help: Illinois/Chicago Songs
From: GUEST,CraigS
Date: 23 Jan 01 - 07:07 PM

There's a Skip James song called "Illinois" (released on Biograph records). Of all the Sweet Home Chicago" records I ever heard, I liked Luther Allison's ('cause it drives) and Walter Davis' ('cause it's different) and John Renbourn's ('cause it's "Sweet Home Kokomo", which is a damn sight closer to Californiyay than Chicago).

There's a lot of Jazz songs with relevant references, but I'd have to be round the loop to list them all


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Subject: RE: Help: Illinois/Chicago Songs
From: wysiwyg
Date: 23 Jan 01 - 06:59 PM

Homeless, I wish Fred knew me now. Last time we bumped into each other I had just snagged me a pastor hubby, and that blew his mind. Tell him I am a musician now. Tell him I hammer my autoharp.

And tell him he STILL owes me the return of my copy of Gavagan's Bar, which is either the title to a book of short stories or one of the stories in it, and I want it!!! It's the Mudcat in disguise!!

~S~


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Subject: RE: Help: Illinois/Chicago Songs
From: Matt_R
Date: 23 Jan 01 - 06:54 PM

I wish I was in Chicago


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Subject: RE: Help: Illinois/Chicago Songs
From: MAG (inactive)
Date: 23 Jan 01 - 06:48 PM

Yes, LSD was by AH&J, their first big hit, upon which they immediately broke up.

Win Stracke has come up on Mudcat before; his whole album is the real thing.

the first cut on Fred Holstein's first album is "Old Chicago" (the album is "Chicago and Other ports").

Chicago Street Names is/was routinely played on WFMT's "Midnite Special," Saturday eve. I have a tape of it, but it IS a comedy bit and not a song. Good tho'

Paul Butterfield Blues Band was out of Chicago.

I'll think about it and see what else I can come up with.


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Subject: RE: Help: Illinois/Chicago Songs
From: Homeless
Date: 23 Jan 01 - 04:46 PM

Sooz - you know Fred? I'll pass your greeting along the next time I see him.

walkinman - Another resource you might want to tap into is the Old Towne School of Folk.


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Subject: RE: Help: Illinois/Chicago Songs
From: mousethief
Date: 23 Jan 01 - 04:33 PM

Of course Illinois is mentioned in "Lookin' Out My back Door" by Creedence Clearwater Revival.

And Frank Sinatra sang a little ditty called "Chicago, My Kinda Town." (Or is that the "that toddlin' town" one?)

Alex


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Subject: RE: Help: Illinois/Chicago Songs
From: lamarca
Date: 23 Jan 01 - 04:27 PM

'Catter Art Thieme sings a score or more of traditional songs from and about Illinois, including these two great ones:

Down By the Embarass (pronounced "Am-braw"), a version of the Rivers of Texas with Illinois rivers

The State of Illinois -
So move your family westward
Bring all your girls and boys
And rise to wealth and honor
In the state of Illinois
(Why isn't this one in the DT?)

Maybe Art will see this and contribute more than just the recently penned songs mentioned in the other posts...


(click me, lamarca - grin)
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Help: Illinois/Chicago Songs
From: GUEST,blues
Date: 23 Jan 01 - 04:12 PM

"Illinois" by Alvin Youngblood comes to my mind


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Subject: RE: Help: Illinois/Chicago Songs
From: mousethief
Date: 23 Jan 01 - 03:56 PM

I have no idea. Ask me again, and I'll answer the same.


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Subject: RE: Help: Illinois/Chicago Songs
From: wysiwyg
Date: 23 Jan 01 - 03:48 PM

Was it Aliotta, Haynes, and Jeremiah, and were they from Chicago?

~S~


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Subject: RE: Help: Illinois/Chicago Songs
From: mousethief
Date: 23 Jan 01 - 03:33 PM

There was a song they played on the radio back when I lived in Chicago (1983-1988) called Lake Shore Drive which was a pretty mindless thing about driving into town on LSD (local acro for the street).

Have no idea who sang it.

Alex


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Subject: RE: Help: Illinois/Chicago Songs
From: wysiwyg
Date: 23 Jan 01 - 03:20 PM

oops-- forgot to say. There are two songs about Galena-- Oh Galena is one, but the title song of the project, that opens the show, is Galena Rose. "Galena Rose" is what the lead was called.

~S~


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Subject: RE: Help: Illinois/Chicago Songs
From: wysiwyg
Date: 23 Jan 01 - 03:18 PM

Jim Post wrote Galena, or, more properly, I believe it is Oh Galena. Jim played a lot around Chicago before discovering and moving to Galena. I dunno if he is still there. But when he was in Chicago, so were Prine, Goodman, and the Holstein brothers. Among many others, you could see them at small folk bars around town, just giggin' like anyone else. Acourse then a lot of them folks, wal, they got purty big for they britches!! But they had the talent, that's for sure.

This piece is part of what he has done as a one-man show as well as in a more expanded form, and it is the story of the mining town as it boomed. The songs tell the stories of the characters in the town, from many walks of life, including the native people who had been there, the slaves brought there to work, the ladies coming west to be with husbands, the riverboat people, the army.... Post takes each role on and does them all well.

My tape of this tends to come and go, as my housecleaning is somewhat variable. I may be able to lay hands on it. It's an old tape, and I sure wish I had a CD to see if the lyrics are on the thing. I could almost type a lot of them from memory-- the tape is so good that it is all in my head now and the tape is pretty well used up.

Anne Hills was one of the people who sometimes joined Jim to put this on, and the last I saw him do it was about 12 years ago. I am sure he is still doing it, here and there.

There is another album-length project he did about a boy named Daniel Christmas, and how one town found the Christmas spirit. I think it is called The Heart of Christmas. It has one particularly lovely song where Daniel is singing about getting into his rocking chair which, to him as a small boy, is a magic conveyance to adventure. I think the rocker sits in the kitchen. It's been awhile, but it will turn up I am sure.

Post is quite a character, and I will never forget the sight of this smallish, wiry man on a smallish, old- fashioned opera house stage, dancing up a storm while belting out in a high, manically-energetic, very high tenor, "I wanna be a hammer-down riverboat man!!!!" But the song I will never get out of my mind is the lovely "Oh Galena," which has such a pretty melody, so well wedded to the vowels in the words... That to sing it, to shape those words to those pitches, is to be like unto heaven itself.

~S~


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Subject: RE: Help: Illinois/Chicago Songs
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Jan 01 - 02:47 PM

There's a song out there somewhere called "Galena" about riverboats and lead mining in the town of Galena...wish I could tell you who the writer was....I used to know these things!


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Subject: RE: Help: Illinois/Chicago Songs
From: Jon W.
Date: 23 Jan 01 - 11:33 AM

Sweet Home Chicago, recorded by Robert Johnson and everyone else.


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Subject: RE: Help: Illinois/Chicago Songs
From: wysiwyg
Date: 23 Jan 01 - 11:06 AM

What was that pop song about LSD?

Then there's Chicago, Chicago, that toddlin' town...

Someone had a comedy bit that included (basso): "Doctuh MAHrtinLuther KINGJoonyuh MeMOHrial Drahv...." I can't recall who, but I think all the street names mentioned were Chicago.

Then there was the band, Chicago.

And Everyone Knows it's Windy.

Theme music from St. Elsewhere and ER, both based on Cook County Hospital.

Both Blues Brothers films...

Geeze, whaddaya gonna DO with all this?

Now we have a Peoria thread too...

~Susan


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Subject: RE: Help: Illinois/Chicago Songs
From: wysiwyg
Date: 23 Jan 01 - 09:20 AM

Depends how far back you want to go. GOIN' DOWN TO CAIRO...

Contact the Libertyville School of Music and-or David Adler Cultural Center, Libertyville. They specialized in Illinois music when I last visited, 12 years ago. I think you may find them online. Treasure-trove.

Also check with Hogeye Music, Evanston, and ask your question. Also ask them how to find Fred Campeau, and tell him we want a tape of The Old Chicago Waltz (which isn't a waltz either). Tell Fred Susan from backgammon at the Barbarossa sez hi and why isn't he a Mudcatter???? Let me know if you get his e-mail address!!

Don't forget the blues, now-- BORN IN CHICAGO, for a start!

Spoon River.... ahhh...

~Former Chicago Suburbs Girl


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Subject: Help: Illinois/Chicago Songs
From: walkinman
Date: 23 Jan 01 - 08:16 AM

I'm trying to compile a list of "Illinois" songs, so I'm jotting down the names of Steve Goodman, John Hartford, Greg Hildebrand, Dan Fogleberg, etc., maybe John Prine?

And song titles that include: Chicago Bust Rag, City of New Orleans, Steamboat Whistle Blues, Go Cubs Go, Illinois, Spoon River, Lincoln Park Pirates, Wish I Were In Peoria, Dying Cub Fan Last Request etc....

What songs and artists should I add to the list??

wm


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