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Subject: Burning Times
From: GUEST,Marieke Smegen
Date: 29 Jan 01 - 09:35 AM

Does anyone knows the chords of 'Burning Times' - a Scottish song about the burning of witches? I've been looking for it since a long time. And if anyone knows a recording of the song, I'm very interested to hear where I can find it. phantommask@yahoo.com


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Burning Times
From: Sorcha
Date: 29 Jan 01 - 09:40 AM

Burning Times from the DT.


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Burning Times
From: Sorcha
Date: 29 Jan 01 - 09:56 AM

Sorry, no chords, but this is the Home Page for these posted lyrics which credit Leigh Ann Hussey, copyright 1988, at (415)548-0613. Also says (Opus 1:161/93). Maybe if you called she would give them to you?


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Burning Times
From: Sorcha
Date: 29 Jan 01 - 09:59 AM

(These are two different sets of lyrics, not sure if it's one of these, or yet another........)


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Burning Times
From: MMario
Date: 29 Jan 01 - 10:03 AM

I think the Hussey one is a rebuttal to Charlie Murphey's Buurning Times - which is the set in the DT. I can't find a tune or chords to either of them.


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Burning Times
From: PhantomNL
Date: 29 Jan 01 - 10:10 AM

Hello,

I saw there are more songs called Burning Times. I mean the song which begins with "In the cool of the evening..." the refrain's got goddesses in it.

I still don't have the chords, so maybe you can help me out? Thanx!


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Burning Times
From: Sorcha
Date: 29 Jan 01 - 10:15 AM

That is the one in the DT, first clickie above. As MMario says, we still have no melody or chords.........we're looking.


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Burning Times
From: Firecat
Date: 29 Jan 01 - 10:20 AM

Artisan used to do a version of it, at least that's where I first heard it. This is actually likely to be very useful for me cos I'm doing about witchcraft for my AS Theatre Studies exam piece.


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Burning Times
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 29 Jan 01 - 10:44 AM

Sorcha, I think these are the words. It would probably help to search on the artist name, Artisan, that firecat mentions.

BURNING TIMES/CHANT
-Charles Murphy

In the cool of the evening, they used to gather, 'neath stars in
the meadow, circled near an old oak tree.
At the times appointed by the seasons of the Earth, and the phases
of the moon.
In the center of them stood a woman, equal with the others, and
respected for her worth.
One of the many we call the Witches, the teachers and the keepers
of the wisdom of the Earth
The people grew through the knowledge she gave them, herbs to heal
their bodies, spells to make their spirits whole.
Hear them chanting healing incantations, calling forth the Wise
Ones, celebrating in dance and song

Isis, Astarte, Diana, Hecate, Demeter, Kali, Inanna
Isis, Astarte, Diana, Hecate, Demeter, Kali, Inanna
Isis, Astarte, Diana, Hecate, Demeter, Kali, Inanna

There were those who came to power through domination, and they
bonded in the worship of a dead man on a cross.
They sought control of the common people by demanding allegiance
to the church of Rome.
And the Pope declared the Inquisition, it was a war against the
women whose power they feared.
In this Holocaust against the nature peoples, a million European
women died.

And the tales are told of those who, by the hundreds, holding
together, chose their deaths in the sea.
Chanting the praises of the Mother Goddess, a refusal of betrayal,
women were dying to be free.

Isis, Astarte, Diana, Hecate, Demeter, Kali, Inanna
Isis, Astarte, Diana, Hecate, Demeter, Kali, Inanna
Isis, Astarte, Diana, Hecate, Demeter, Kali, Inanna

Now the Earth is a witch, and the men still burn her! Stripping
her down with mining and the poisons of their wars.
While to us the Earth is a healer, a teacher, a mother.
She's the weaver of the web of life that keeps us all alive.

She gives us the vision to see through the chaos.
She gives us the courage, it is our will to survive!

Isis, Astarte, Diana, Hecate, Demeter, Kali, Inanna....(repeat ad lib)


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Burning Times
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 29 Jan 01 - 10:46 AM

should be a break after Chales Murphy...

BURNING TIMES/CHANT
-Charles Murphy

In the cool of the evening, they used to gather, 'neath stars in
the meadow, circled near an old oak tree.
At the times appointed by the seasons of the Earth, and the phases
of the moon.
In the center of them stood a woman, equal with the others, and
respected for her worth.
One of the many we call the Witches, the teachers and the keepers
of the wisdom of the Earth
The people grew through the knowledge she gave them, herbs to heal
their bodies, spells to make their spirits whole.
Hear them chanting healing incantations, calling forth the Wise
Ones, celebrating in dance and song

Isis, Astarte, Diana, Hecate, Demeter, Kali, Inanna
Isis, Astarte, Diana, Hecate, Demeter, Kali, Inanna
Isis, Astarte, Diana, Hecate, Demeter, Kali, Inanna

There were those who came to power through domination, and they
bonded in the worship of a dead man on a cross.
They sought control of the common people by demanding allegiance
to the church of Rome.
And the Pope declared the Inquisition, it was a war against the
women whose power they feared.
In this Holocaust against the nature peoples, a million European
women died.

And the tales are told of those who, by the hundreds, holding
together, chose their deaths in the sea.
Chanting the praises of the Mother Goddess, a refusal of betrayal,
women were dying to be free.

Isis, Astarte, Diana, Hecate, Demeter, Kali, Inanna
Isis, Astarte, Diana, Hecate, Demeter, Kali, Inanna
Isis, Astarte, Diana, Hecate, Demeter, Kali, Inanna

Now the Earth is a witch, and the men still burn her! Stripping
her down with mining and the poisons of their wars.
While to us the Earth is a healer, a teacher, a mother.
She's the weaver of the web of life that keeps us all alive.

She gives us the vision to see through the chaos.
She gives us the courage, it is our will to survive!

Isis, Astarte, Diana, Hecate, Demeter, Kali, Inanna....(repeat ad lib)


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Burning Times
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 29 Jan 01 - 11:02 AM

I found some chords here which appear to the the song above.


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Burning Times
From: Sorcha
Date: 29 Jan 01 - 11:06 AM

Whee Ya, Mary!! Anybody have the Christy Moore that this is on? Then we could get a melody!!


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Burning Times
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 29 Jan 01 - 11:09 AM

Sorcha, I also saw a lot of Iced Earth and Testament tabs for this song. Since this (heavy metal mucic) isn't exactly my forte, I'm totally lost here. It was purely a diversion in searching...and I even managed to lock up my computer!


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Burning Times
From: MMario
Date: 29 Jan 01 - 11:17 AM

mp3 file here

url=http://www.drunkencrew.com/napster/Regular_Music/Christy%20Moore%20--%20Burning%20Times.mp3


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Burning Times
From: GUEST,sooze(at work)
Date: 29 Jan 01 - 12:29 PM

Roy Bailey does a great version of the Charlie Murphy song. I'm now looking forward to the Christie Moore version - haven't heard it or of it before.


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Burning Times
From: GUEST,PhantomNL
Date: 30 Jan 01 - 03:38 AM

You guys are wonderful. I searched for the song for about 3 years and you helped me out! Thank you very much. Marieke.


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Burning Times
From: Marymac90
Date: 30 Jan 01 - 11:12 PM

I was sure that this was in either Rise Up Singing or its predecessor, Winds of the People, but I was WRONG! WotP has more songs by Charlie Murphy than are in RUS, but not that one. It probably WAS on the mimeo'd song sheets that were the predecessor of WotP!

I know (or at least I DID know) Charlie Murphy when he lived in Phila, ~1978-81 or so. He moved to Seattle, where he still lives, as far as I know. I could probably get hold of his address, email, or phone # without going through TOO many people. I also have this on vinyl, if it still plays--I was not noted for taking excellent care of my vinyl!

I can clearly remember the way the chorus sounds--it's kind of a chant, with a clearly defined meter, but mostly one tone, at least on the first couple of reps. "Diana" does go down, then it comes back up again. Then after those first 2x thru, he raises the pitch. The melody of the verse I don't think I could reproduce accurately, but probably my friend Joan, or another friend could.

Oh, I think the number of dead in the song, as Charlie wrote it, was TEN million!

If you want me to try to get hold of Charlie, email me at Marymac90@aol.com


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Subject: Chord Req: Burning Times
From: Sabine
Date: 07 Apr 03 - 04:13 PM

Hi there,

could anyone give me the chords and/or sheet music/abc/midi to the song "Burning Times".
I only know the song by Christy Moore though it was originally written by someone else, Charly Somewhatdontknowhisname :o)

thanks in advance

Slán

Sabine


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Burning Times
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 07 Apr 03 - 08:19 PM

Written by Charlie Murphy. Roy Bailey also recorded it on 'Freedom Peacefully' (1985). Sorry I can't help with the chords!


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Burning Times
From: treaties1
Date: 07 Apr 03 - 08:38 PM

This song is well received when sung unaccompanied or with just a constant driving/throbbing rythmn on guitar or drum


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Burning Times
From: Joan from Wigan
Date: 08 Apr 03 - 04:25 AM

Roy Bailey uses the guitar as a percussion instrument, banging the rhythm on the strings/bridge, and I do too. But you've got to finger the chords if you do this, otherwise it would just sound awful! The chords I use are:

In the [Am]cool of the evening, they used to gather,
'Neath the [Em]stars in the meadow circled [Am]near an old oak tree.
At the times appointed by the seasons of the [Em]earth and the phases of the [Am]moon.
In the centre often stood a woman,
[Em]Equal with the others and re[Am]spected for her worth.
One of the many we call the witches, the [Em]healers and the teachers of the [Am]wisdom of the Earth.
And the people grew in the knowledge she gave them,
[Em]Herbs to heal their bodies, spells to [Am]make their spirits whole.
Hear them chanting healing incantations,
[Em]Calling forth the wise ones, celeb[Am]rating in dance and song.
Isis, Astarte, Di[Em]ana, [Am]Hecate, Demeter, Kali, [G]Inan[Am]na


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Burning Times
From: Sabine
Date: 08 Apr 03 - 12:13 PM

Thanks a million :o)))))

Regards

Sabine


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Subject: ADD: Burning Times (Charlie Murphy)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 08 Apr 03 - 06:05 PM

Susanne(skw)'s page (click) has these lyrics. Be sure to check her notes on the song at her Website. I have to say the lyrics are a little more strongly anti-Rome than I'd like to see. The Roman Catholic Church of five centuries ago is quite different from the one I belong to now - but some people sing songs like this and condemn me and other Catholics for something done five centuries ago. Charlie Murphy also wrote Light Is Returning - I have an easier time with that one.
-Joe Offer-


BURNING TIMES
(Charlie Murphy)

In the cool of the evening they used to gather
'Neath the stars in the meadow, circled near an old oak tree
At the times appointed by the seasons
Of the earth and the phases of the moon
In the centre often stood a woman
Equal with the others, respected for her worth
One of the many we call the witches
The healers, the teachers of the wisdom of the earth
And the people grew in the knowledge she gave them
Herbs to heal their bodies, smells to make their spirits whole
Hear them chanting healing incantations
Calling for the wise ones, celebrating in dance and song

Isis, Astarte, Diana, Hecate, Demitra, Kali, Inarna
Isis, Astarte, Diana, Hecate, Demitra, Kali, Inarna

There were those who came to power through domination
They were bonded in their worship of a dead man on a cross
They sought control of the common people
By demanding allegiance to the Church of Rome
And the Pope he commenced the inquisition
'Twas a war against the women whose power they feared
In this holocaust, in this age of evil
Nine million European women they died
And the tale is told of those who by the hundreds
Holding hands together chose their deaths in the sea
While chanting the praises of the mother goddess
A refusal of betrayal, women were dying to be free

Isis, Astarte, Diana, Hecate, Demitra, Kali, Inarna
Isis, Astarte, Diana, Hecate, Demitra, Kali, Inarna

Now the earth is a witch and we still burn her
Stripping her down with mining and the poison of our wars
Still to us the earth is a healer, a teacher and a mother
A weaver of a web of light that keeps us all alive
She gives us the vision to see through the chaos
She gives us the courage it is our will to survive

As sung by Roy Bailey and Christy Moore


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Burning Times
From: Jeri
Date: 08 Apr 03 - 08:22 PM

The lyrics are also at this site. (It's a great site for lyrics!)


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Burning Times (Charlie Murphy)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 09 Apr 03 - 01:53 PM

Hmmmm. Haven't I heard Dick Greenhaus say just what Jeri said?
Come to think of it, haven't I heard Joe Offer ask people to search the Digital Tradition before posting a song?

Ahem...er, so, can anybody tell us anything about Charlie Murphy? He writes all these songs that women sing at gatherings where men are excluded...
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Burning Times (Charlie Murphy)
From: MMario
Date: 09 Apr 03 - 02:00 PM

'course if anyone has a midi or the dots - it *is* one of the missing tunes.


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Burning Times (Charlie Murphy)
From: GUEST,DannyC
Date: 27 Jun 05 - 10:37 PM

Charlie Murphy is a folksinger/songwriter/organizer who lives on an island in the vicinity of Seattle. He is a native of Catonsville, Maryland. He and I and four or more turned a shanty shack (Govans - Balto.) into a musical haven house back in the day (mid-70s). Charlie was a Dylan-freak, and he poured himself into his singing. He was into T-Groups and self-discovery and I believe that he found a good part of what he was looking for. I was delighted to learn just this past year that he had written "Burning Times". It seems to have turned into an anthem of sorts.

I hadn't been in touch with Charlie for well over two decades but reached him this past winter and enjoyed the catching up.

Most of the people from that house keep a musical dimension in their lives. Ralph Reinoldi plays guitar and other plectrum instruments behind hishonor the Mayor in "O'Malley's March".

John Strausbaugh co-produced a documentary on the late Josie McDermott (flute player from the West of Ireland). More recently John writes and publishes controversial articles and books from New York City. He seems to be some sort of anarchist with an avid following though I am not really qualified to say.

Back in the day, we had oil heat and no insulation and the Bay froze over (cutting the supply) so we often burst the water pipes, but we laughed and sang thru the whole night long - seen the summer sunrise in the mornin'...


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Burning Times (Charlie Murphy)
From: GUEST,Bill Kujawa
Date: 26 Dec 11 - 02:52 AM

Hey Charlie   it has been a lifetime   remember the shows in Chicago at Marge's bar..... Great times    Bill Kujawa


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Burning Times (Charlie Murphy)
From: BigDaddy
Date: 01 Feb 16 - 03:02 PM

A couple of corrections: It's Inanna, not Inarna. The r is the result of the "intrusive r" found in the British/Celtic isles. And it's "spells", not "smells to make their spirits whole."


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Burning Times (Charlie Murphy)
From: Jack Campin
Date: 01 Feb 16 - 05:45 PM

It's also Demeter, not Demitra.

The version of history presented in the song is a bit confused. The numbers are way exaggerated, but that was common folklore at the time and Murphy can't really be faulted for not looking deeper (the total death toll was still horrific). While the Pope may have started the witch-craze, he didn't subsequently control it, it wasn't just done by the Inquisition, and the Protestants were just as bad at persecuting witches in the areas they dominated (like Scotland). The main text for witch-hunters was the Malleus Maleficarum, which the Inquisition rejected on theological grounds.

It is also rather dubious whether most witches believed anything like the Wiccan gospel behind the song. Carlo Ginzburg's Ecstasies gives a much more complicated picture, and there are large parts of Europe where "witches" must have believed things that even he didn't identify.


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Burning Times (Charlie Murphy)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 07 Aug 16 - 01:50 AM

Interesting song.
There's a Christy Moore recording of the song here:


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Burning Times (Charlie Murphy)
From: Felipa
Date: 07 Aug 16 - 06:35 AM

another Christy Moore recording. I prefer the one on the link Joe gave above, but this youtube has lyrics on screen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA2oxu5UhVM


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Burning Times (L A Hussey)
From: Felipa
Date: 07 Aug 16 - 07:09 AM

sheet music for the Leigh Ann Hussey Burning Times
http://www.motogrrl.org/Bands/LAH/MyFirstFilkBook-08.html

Leigh Ann Hussey's life and death http://leighann.nithaus.org/

yes, MMario, Hussey's song is a rebuttal: "Lately I've been seeing an outrageous escalation of figures from the burning times, now we're up to 9.5 million! And there seems to be some sort of perverse 'we're more persecuted than the Jews' mentality behind it. Completely ignoring the fact that the burning times killed some large number of people over 4 centuries, where the Nazi Holocaust killed its millions in a matter of 5 YEARS. Also, I've been pissed off lately by Charlie Murphey's 'Burning Times' song, which has propagated the 9 million figure and has in it lines like 'The Earth is a Witch/ and the Men still burn Her'. So, in the good old-fashioned tradition of lectures set to music, I offer the following verses. I need to see how many people they offend before I sing them at Esotericon." ( http://heru-ra-ha.tripod.com/library/burntime.html )


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Burning Times (Charlie Murphy)
From: Jack Campin
Date: 07 Aug 16 - 07:17 AM

Marieke, are you still on Mudcat?

I've never heard you sing that one.


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