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Lyr Req: songs about St. Brigid

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*#1 PEASANT* 31 Jan 01 - 07:38 AM
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Callie 31 Jan 01 - 08:31 AM
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*#1 PEASANT* 31 Jan 01 - 03:19 PM
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Melani 31 Jan 01 - 03:29 PM
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Subject: St. Brigid In Song- got any?
From: *#1 PEASANT*
Date: 31 Jan 01 - 07:38 AM

Saint Brigid's day being Feb. 1 I thought I would inquire if anyone knew of any folksong involving the saint?

Lots of ancient songs and poems see my pages and book http://www.toad.net/~sticker/thesaint.html

Brigid of the Gael available via amazon.com the most complete reference on the saint including crafts rituals history, stories cross designs etc... available anywhere. search under bladey

It is interesting that althought Brigid is a very important historical figure that there are few if any songs about her.

It would be good to locate a few/

Be sure to celebrate! Learn how on the pages above! Much more important than St. Patrick! She is after all the one associated with butter and ale!

Conrad Bladey


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: St. Brigid In Song- got any?
From: hesperis
Date: 31 Jan 01 - 08:31 AM

There are quite a few songs about Brigid the Goddess, especially more recent pagan ones, but I gather that's not what you're looking for...


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: St. Brigid In Song- got any?
From: Callie
Date: 31 Jan 01 - 08:31 AM

There was a previous thread about songs to St Brigid. In it I mentioned my old school song "Hymn to St Brigid" which starts

Far above enthroned in glory
Sweetest saint of Erin's Isle
See thy children kneel before thee
Turn on us a mother's smile.

If you type "Brigid" in the search clicky, the thread is sure to come up.

happy St Brigid's Day!

Callie (Australia)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: St. Brigid In Song- got any?
From: MMario
Date: 31 Jan 01 - 09:21 AM

Here's a previous thread St. Brigid's


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: St. Brigid In Song- got any?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 31 Jan 01 - 10:08 AM

Bit of an odd one HERE, Conrad, but I think you may like it.

Good write up as well as song!

Cheers - or just for you, Wassail!

Dave the Gnome


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: St. Brigid In Song- got any?
From: *#1 PEASANT*
Date: 31 Jan 01 - 03:19 PM

Note! Brigid is no more a goddess than any other irish saint. Interesting that no one ever says that Patrick was some sort of god! He was her contemporary and is as she is mentioned in the annals of Ireland.

Bri brig etc... all very very popular celtic names. Lots of contemporary brigids with Brigid of Kildare even. This goddess stuff is pure bull shit!

The same is true about her relationship with flame or light. She is no more related to flame or light even though her name means fiery arrow than with anything else.

She is infact more related to leppers in the stories than anything else.

I do not mind new revelation but the pagans all want to link it to the celtic past which is clearly quite impossible at this point. They should just record their beliefs as new revelation.

Have a great holiday. It is all in my book see above. The only one and only source for everything currently existing in the world.... About brigid of kildare that is~!!

Conrad


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Subject: Lyr Add: AMHRÁIN NA FÉIDEARTHACHTA
From: Fergie
Date: 31 Jan 01 - 03:25 PM

On coming up

AMHRÁIN NA FÉIDEARTHACHTA.

A mhaighdean rua na rónta,
A shaighead i gcroithe na bhfear,
Tá lasair ár dteampaill fónta
Is tá ré an mheirligh thart.
tá tine na rímhná lasta,
Tá ár n-aisling ag teacht go saol,
Tá amhráin na féidearthachta á gcasadh
Go binn ó chuar do bhéil.

Tá gloithe ar na déithe,
Na naoimh is na saoithe ceoil,
Bíonn mo chroí go híondúil téite
Ia tá fis ár sinsear beo.
Is é mo ghuí go gcreidfear iadsan
-a mhaireanns de réir an dlí-
go bhfeictear ríocht na gceart ar thalamh
is go dtuigtear bun gach brí.


Is é mo ghuí go gcreidfear iadsan
-a mhaireanns de réir an dlí-
go bhfeictear ríocht na gceart ar thalamh
is go dtuigtear bun gach brí.

Translation

Songs of possibility.

Red haired virgin of the seals,
Arrow in the hearts of men,
The spark of our temple is rekindled
And the robber's rule has ended.
Our kinswoman's flame is burning,
Our dream is being fulfilled,
And songs of possibility
Are chanted sweetly from your mouth.

Gods have been invoked,
Saints and master-musicians,
My heart is constantly aglow
That our ancestors' vision lives.
I pray that they will be believed
-those that live by the law-
that the kingdom of good will be seen on earth
and the base of all meaning understood.

I pray that they will be believed
-those that live by the law-
that the kingdom of good will be seen on earth
and the base of all meaning understood.

Line Breaks
added.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: St. Brigid In Song- got any?
From: Melani
Date: 31 Jan 01 - 03:29 PM

Conrad, I always enjoy your delicate and tasteful comments on other people's beliefs.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: St. Brigid In Song- got any?
From: Fergie
Date: 31 Jan 01 - 04:12 PM

I have the above song saved on my PC as a word document when I cut and paste into the Reply to Thread box the verses do not hold their origional form but the lines all attach together, can anybody tell me why?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: St. Brigid In Song- got any?
From: MMario
Date: 31 Jan 01 - 04:29 PM

Fergie - the easiest explanation is "Please read the Newcomer's FAQ" which is the teal thread at the top of the list.

it's got to do with HTML and the way the cat reads our messages.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: St. Brigid In Song- got any?
From: Fergie
Date: 31 Jan 01 - 04:34 PM

Thanks MMario IIm GGone TThere


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: St. Brigid In Song- got any?
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Feb 01 - 12:09 AM

Perhaps we'd better not tell Conrad that throughout time there were a number of gods in human form who were executed and returned to life; or that there were a number of such entities who were alleged to have been born to a "virgin." Or that Brigid the "saint" is strong enough to survive comparisons to an ancient deity with similar attributes.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: St. Brigid In Song- got any?
From: Callie
Date: 01 Feb 01 - 02:23 AM

I'm confused about who believes what and who thinks who is bigoted. or whether it matters.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: St. Brigid In Song- got any?
From: Jimmy C
Date: 01 Feb 01 - 10:56 AM

St.Bridgid of Ireland (Incorrectly known as BRIDGET)

Born in 451 or 452 of princely ancestors at Faughart, near Dundalk, Co. Louth, died 1st February 525 at Kildare. She refused many good offers of marriage and became a nun instead, She received her veil from St. Malaile. With seven other virgins she settled for a time at the foot of Croghan Hill, but then went to Druin Criadh in the plains of Magh Life, where under a large oak tree she erected her subsequently famous Convent of Cill-Dara, that is "the church of the oak (now Kildare) It is difficult to reconcile the statements of some of her biographers. More information can be found on the Internet - search for Bridgid, Brigit, Bridget etc.

The most ancient biography of her life was by St. Broccan Cloen who died 17 September 650, it is metrical as can be seen from the following specimen.

Ni bu Sanct Brigid suanach
Ni bu huarach im sheire De
Sech ni chiuir ni cossens
Ind noeb dibad bethath che

(Saint Brigid was not given to sleep
Nor was she intermittent about God's love
Not merely that she did not buy, she did not seek for
the wealth of this world below,the holy one)

St Brigid was also the patron of scholars, having founded a school of art, including metal work and illumination.

Even allowing for the exaggerated stories told by her numerous biographers, it is certain that she ranks as one of the most remarkable Irishwomen of the fifth century, and as Patroness of Ireland she is lovingly called " The Queen of the South"; The Mary of the Gael.
She died leaving a cathedral city and school that became famous all over Europe.
Viewing any biography of her life we must allow for the vivid Celtic imagination .

I have lots of information on her, having visited her shrine at Faughart many times, If anyone needs more info send me a PM or check the Internet.
BTW my wife is called Brigid.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: St. Brigid In Song- got any?
From: GUEST,JTT
Date: 01 Feb 01 - 11:29 AM

Anois teacht an Earraigh...


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: St. Brigid In Song- got any?
From: *#1 PEASANT*
Date: 01 Feb 01 - 10:49 PM

In 2000 I produced a book which gathered all early writings concerning Brigid for the first time along with customs, recipes, crafts, lists of relics, springs etc. A good place to begin the search for what has come down from earliest sources. It has been very well received. A good work to have on your shelf. All that is known is carefully laid out- a collection/reference.

Nothing wrong with new revelation but please, some of us do know what has come down and what has not. You can order the book from us directly (a bit quicker but we dont take credit cards Here: Click for the books

Or try Click to buy on amazonThey take credit cards...

Again why is there such an instance that brigid of kildare was some sort of goddess figure whereas patrick her contemporary no less documented is not taken to be simply some "god"- perhaps a multivalent god like the Dagda or good god....

((could it be because she was a woman and did not receive credibility?))

Unfortunately the wishful thinking of the neo pagans or neo celts can not change the knowledge of original souces.

They can believe what they will it is what they say about it that should have some relation to reality. I have nothing against neo pagans when they do not misrepresent their source material.

Conrad


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: St. Brigid In Song- got any?
From: GUEST,chullainn
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 10:32 AM

In response to the vitriol regarding Saint/Goddess Brigit, I believe it is safe to say the following about her. (And contrary to another writer, I do not believe it fair to criticize spelling of this name. The variants are many, and very widely used.)

"Brigit was the ancient Celtic goddess of ther poetic arts, crafts, prophecy, and divination; she was the equivalent of the Roman goddess Minerva (Greek Athena). In Ireland she was one of three goddesses of the same name, daughters of the Dagda, the great god of that country. Her two sisters were connected with healing and with the craft of the smith. Brigit was taken over by Christianity as St. Brigit, but she retained strong pastoral associations. Brigantia, patron goddess of the Brigantes of north Britain, is substantially the same goddess."

This brief description is from the Encyclopedia Britannica, not known as a hotbed of neopagan revisionist thinking. It may serve to call to mind how a number of pagan deities (as well as practices) from many lands were subsumed into mainstream christian doctrine. The line of criticism in this thread is particularly odd to me with respect to an Irish goddess, as Ireland appears to be the one land where the blend of old and new religions is the most transparent. Please remember that pagan belief, as well documented in anceint sources, changed greatly over a thousand years of recorded history, evolving, adopting, adapting, and blending. (Example, there seems to be consensus among mainstream authorities that many of Europe's major waterways are named for ancient river goddesses? And what of the obvious christian usurpation of pagan holidays? People simply kept using the old names and practicing old ways even as their beliefs changed. Many fundamentalists in my neck of the woods no longer celebrate "Easter", because someone told them that name is derived from "Ishtar" -- they celebrate "the Resurrection" instead. And they're getting skittish about Santa Claus and Valentine's Day, too.)

It is fascinating how threatening the existence of goddesses continues to be to so many people. Part of it is simply (and understandably, given the persistent nature of pagan belief) the threat to one's own beliefs, but part of it has not changed a whit in over a thousand years: as society becomes more settled, more urban, less an integral part of the natural world, patriarchal bureaucrats (and their patriarchal deities) find their niche and for the next few thousand years do whatever it takes to stay in office.

Oh, well... thanks for the intellectual exercise. Living in Jesse Helms' home state I am used to narrow-minded, patriarchal authoritarian figures, and it is nice to be reminded that there are SOME of you out there who are willing to consider the possibilities.

chullainn


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: St. Brigid In Song- got any?
From: *#1 PEASANT*
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 11:47 AM

So....even the Encyclopedia Britannica, can be human and make errors. In early literature there is no reference to the goddess at all only reference to the real person. St. Brigid of Kildare. Just as real as St. Patrick. Was there a goddess named Bri or Brigid or some varriant? Very possibly but there is no direct evidence of any continuity of any pagan goddess with St. Brigid of Kildare.

Again nothing wrong with new revelation so if Brigid came to anyone in a vision or dream making all of these direct pagan links clear please let us know. And good luck to them as well.

Conrad


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: St. Brigid In Song- got any?
From: hesperis
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 12:36 PM

No, St Brigid of Kildare is not the "fleshly incarnation" of the Goddesss, as far as I know :) but the woman shares a remarkable similarity to the ancient Goddess, particularly in the healing arts, and many people, when saying that they are the same, forget that a Goddess is immanent in everything, by definition, and Brigid of Kildare was a living, breathing person. (Maybe God incarnated in Jesus, and Goddess incarnated in Brigid.... there is no way to know.)

The fact remains that the Goddess Brighid (or Bride or other spelling variations caused by an orally-based society changing to a literate one) had the qualities of poetry, healing (especially midwifery), and learning, and that Brigid the person had those same qualities.

From the Brittanica "Brigit was taken over by Christianity as St. Brigit, but she retained strong pastoral associations."

The above quote does not make it clear that Brigid of Kildare was an actual historical person. it would be more accurate to say that the "worship" of the Saint Brigid might have become so popular partly because of the previous "worship" of the Goddess. The unlatined country folk would probably have considered her the incarnation of the Goddess, and taken it as a good sign that even she was a Christian.

This is all speculation, of course.

I am curious as to what in my original post led you to believe that pagans believe Brigid of Kildare and the Goddess Brighid are the exact same person? As far as I know, they don't. They do believe that the Achetype of the Goddess Brighid (Bride, etc.) became invested in the person of Brigid of Kildare.

Since it was obvious you were looking for songs about the Saint, I merely posted in order to bring the thread back to the top, and I am quite confused as to your response to that.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: St. Brigid In Song- got any?
From: chullainn
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 01:57 PM

I apologize to all concerned for trying to contribute to this thread. It is now obvious that acceptable evidence consists only in uncovering an artifact inscribed "The goddess Brigit visited Ireland and all I got was this lousy stone tablet."

I respectfully bow out of this "discussion" and leave it to those who are Right.

chullainn


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: St. Brigid In Song- got any?
From: GUEST,Melani
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 02:01 PM

Happy Brigid's Day, everyone!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: St. Brigid In Song- got any?
From: MMario
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 02:02 PM

Enjoy the Feast Day of St. Phillip of Puxatawny


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: St. Brigid In Song- got any?
From: Abby Sale
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 02:44 PM

Sorry I didn't catch this in time, but hope you got to celebrate, anyway. "Gabhaim Molta Bríde" [from Áine Cooke at Mudcat http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/8998/molta_bride.html]

Next time with one of these (date-related) comes up ask me direct. I will instantly consult the "Happy!" file and answer. (In most cases.)

Also, since it coincides with Candlemas Eve, you can recite:

If the sun shines bright on Candlemas Day, The half of the winter's not yet away

English Folk-Rhymes, GF Northall, 1892.

(They felt they didn't need no steenkin' groundhogs)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: St. Brigid In Song- got any?
From: hesperis
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 02:52 PM

Melani - thanks for getting us all back on track. Happy Brigantia!

Chullainn - LOL about the "stone tablet". (Why didn't I get one?) Oh, and why apologize? You raised some interesting points.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: St. Brigid In Song- got any?
From: Julia
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 07:00 PM

Just wanted to mention the abbey at Kildare which kept an eternal flame burning in honor of St Brigid tended by 19 nuns. It is said that every 20th day, Brigid herself would appear.Some interesting parallels to documented pre-christian worship.Henry the VIII put a stop to this during his reign.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: St. Brigid In Song- got any?
From: Julia
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 08:40 PM

Folks should check out the "Carmina Gaedelica" by Alexander Carmichael circa 1875 for extensive scholarly discussion of Bride, who, by the way was very popular in the Scottish Hebrides as well. I have this info on disc which I could e-mail to anyone who is interested


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: St. Brigid In Song- got any?
From: GUEST,Conrad Bladey
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 09:42 PM

You will find the Carmina Gaedelica on line at: click here

Actually no stone artifact required! Just a good reference to existing evidence. Being infused with the spirit of the goddess is not how this linkage is generally stated. The total rubbish which has been piled upon the name of Brigid of Kildare without reference to either ancient source or new revelation is truly amazing.

Conrad


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: St. Brigid In Song- got any?
From: GUEST,Bobby Bob, Ellan Vannin
Date: 03 Feb 01 - 07:27 AM

Late to the ball as usual, here in the Isle of Man there is an 'Invocation to St Brigid', sung by the woman of the house on the eve of St Brigid's Day. A special bed was prepared and food and drink left out so that St Brigid, disguised as an old woman, could find shelter and refreshment, and it was a great honour and blessing were it your house. So the invitation was given -

Breeshey, Breeshey, tar gys my hie,
Tar gys y thie aym noght.
Breeshey, Breeshey, tar, o tar,
Gys y thie aym noght.
O foshil jee y dorrys da Breeshey,
Lhig da Breeshey çheet stiagh.
Breeshey, Breeshey, tar oo
Gys y thie aym noght.

For the pedants, yes, it probably ought to be 'Vreeshey', but lenition tended to drift in later Manx.

It translates as -

Bride, Bride, come to my house,
Come to my house tonight.
Bride, Bride, come, o come,
To my house tonight.
O open you the door to Bridget,
Let Bride come in.
Bride, Bride, come you
To my house tonight.

I have written her name as 'Bride' because that is the name bestowed on a church and parish in the north of the Isle of Man (where my parents were married, as it happens).

After brushing out the room, the woman of the house would stand at the door to sing the invocation/invitation and also say,

'Quoi erbee y thie hig oo, huggey tar gys y thie ainyn.' - roughly translating as 'Whosoever is the house you come to, to here come to our house.'

And the following day is 'Laa'l Moirrey ny Gainle' - the day of Mary of the Candle. The Churching of Women is, in Manx, 'Lostey y Cainle' - Burning the Candle, and there is a dance associated with Laa'l Moirrey ny Gainle which consists of a girl (acting as Moirrey) with a lighted candle leading four other couples, and during the dance, the four men light their candles from that of Moirrey. They then process off, into the church in days of old - into the pub last night after dancing on a rather wet promenade in Peel.

Lhieuish ooilley,

Bobby Bob


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: St. Brigid In Song- got any?
From: GUEST,Annraoi
Date: 03 Feb 01 - 08:12 AM

Bobby Bob,
Nice to see your name again. Any more news about macaronic songs Manx/English?
Annraoi


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: St. Brigid In Song- got any?
From: GUEST,Bobby Bob, Ellan Vannin
Date: 03 Feb 01 - 09:17 AM

Annraoi a chara/y charrey,

Gura mie ayd son shen.

There was a character in the nineteenth century called Thomas Shimmin, but know most widely as 'Tom the Dipper.' In his early days, he was sentenced to transportation, but got as far as London, where he served some years in a prison hulk. On his release, he came back to the Isle of Man and set up as a rag collector. He was also a preacher, but when everyone else's heads were bowed, he would lift his arms up to beseech the Lord - and help himself to any food items stored up on the shelves or beams of the house.

Anyway, the point of this is that he called himself 'The Manx Poet' and also made money by selling his effusions, usually in English, 'To the Tune of . . .' some well-known piece. However, one of his is certainly a macaronic, which I'll send to you.

However, I see you may have had trouble joining up as well. I've filled in the details on a number of occasions and posted successfully, only for it not to 'hold' for the next time I've visited the Mudcat. Joe did Offer to help me with it a little while ago, but I've not got round to it again. So, like you, I'm still a GUEST.

I haven't really been aware of other material. Late Manx had quite a few crossovers or borrowings, but not what you would class as a macaronic. For example, St Paul's Day (25 January) has two weather sayings, one a long version in Manx, but also a short version -

Laa'l Paul, bright as clear,
Palçhey meinney fud y çheer.

Paul's Day, bright and clear,
Plenty of flour meal throughout the land.

I'll copy and post Tom the Dipper's poem on a separate thread - Manx Macaronic.

Lhiats,

Bobby Bob


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Subject: ADD: Brigit's Song
From: GUEST,julia l
Date: 21 Jan 10 - 10:01 PM

BRIGIT'S SONG
©2002 Fred Gosbee

As the winter days grow longer and the sun starts getting stronger
The bear will wake to sniff the wind and leave his cozy den.
When Orion starts to go it is then that you will know
That soon it will be Brigit's Day again.

Let your fire die down, clean the hearth and sweep the stone
Clear the darkness of the winter from your heart and soul
Spring's around the corner, she'll soon be here again
And Brigit is here to rekindle the flame

This season is a blessing, it's the time of year for resting
Most thankful is the mother with a new babe at her breast
In just a few short weeks comes the time of sowing seeds
Then months of work until the time for harvest

At his forge the blacksmith stands. With the skill that he commands
Transforming iron ingots into tools of strength and grace
In his hand the hammer rings, in his heart he hears her sing
A joyful which helps him know his place

Many people in these days from the earth have been estranged
In their cities and their suburbs natures cycles are ignored
But the healing will begin if they only turn within
And listen in their hearts for Brigit's word


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: St. Brigid In Song- got any?
From: open mike
Date: 22 Jan 10 - 01:45 AM

i don't have a song, but i do know that many make st. brigid's cross on her feast day. http://www.fisheaters.com/stbrigidscross.html

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.irlonline.com/cross/cross.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.irlonline.com/cross/&h=625&w=350&sz=30&tbnid=JJ107HxIdRJYKM:&tbnh=301&tbnw=168&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dst%2Bbrigid%2Bcross&usg=__6AGrQKvPNw3UZ1ib7Wi8dWDKfsw=&ei=uUhZS5jgIoPuswOEzpyQAw&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=1&ct=image&ved=0CD8Q9QEwAA


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: St. Brigid In Song- got any?
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 22 Jan 10 - 04:47 AM

The merry order of St. Bridget. Personal recollections of the use of the rod (1857)
Author: Bertram, James Glass, 1824-1892
Subject: Flagellation


I found above by googling variations of St Brigid - this seems to be one of those Victorian erotic flagellation works like "Walter's" My Secret Life, Sacher-Masoch's Venus in Furs &c ? not quite clear if purely fiction or fact-based. Anyone any idea how the name of St Bridget became used for such an organisation or in such a context. She wasn't a member of a flagellant order or any such thing, was she? It seems most odd - not to say, kinky!


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