Subject: Rose of San Antoine From: Gypsy Date: 04 Feb 01 - 12:16 PM Hi there. This is one (albeit mispelled) that my father in law used to sing. We can only remember a few lyrics. I know it's not folk, but....any good ideas out there? Thanks, all |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Rose of San Antoine From: Gypsy Date: 04 Feb 01 - 12:18 PM I'm a moron, found it at Cowpie in about 2 seconds. Sorry for taking up the space! |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Rose of San Antoine From: Susan of DT Date: 04 Feb 01 - 12:45 PM (from dick greenhaus) Cowpie's a fine site, but so is this one. If you enter San Antonio (or San Ant* , if you're not sure of the spelling) in the DigiTrad search box, the song comes right up. |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Rose of San Antoine From: cowboypoet Date: 04 Feb 01 - 01:13 PM Whaddaya mean it's not folk? Anyway, in case you're interested here's a little back ground: The song was originally an instrumental called "San Antonio Rose" writtne by Bob Wills and one or more of his band, The Texas Playboys. It was very popular as an instrumental, but Wills wanted words to go with it. A number of well-known lyricists of the day (including Irving Berlin, if I remember right) took a whack at it, but it was Tommy Duncan, the lead vocalist for the Texas Playboys, who finally came up with the ones you found. The song was re-released as "The New San Antonio Rose" and Bing Crosby recorded it with tremendous success. My favorite version features Ray Price and some of the original Texas Playboys. No disrespect to the King of Western Swing, but I sure wish Bob coulda learned to shut up while the song was playing -- one AAAAAH-HAAAAAH! per song is plenty. |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Rose of San Antoine From: cowboypoet Date: 05 Feb 01 - 11:08 AM "back ground"? "writtne"? OK, that's it -- I'm outta here. There's proof reading and then there's 100-proof reading. I'm getting a pretty good idea which works better. |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Rose of San Antoine From: Gypsy Date: 05 Feb 01 - 11:09 PM Last night, with the Husband performing it, was told that it was a good thing that he didn't know how to do the "Ah haaaaaaa" I tend to agree. Sounds really neat with him on the mandolin, and vocals. |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Rose of San Antoine From: catspaw49 Date: 05 Feb 01 - 11:19 PM Okay.....While we're on this song.........My Dad loved it and I remember several recordings he had of it including the Wills' "aaaahhhhhhhhaaaaaaa" versions (I wish I had all of my Dad's 78's...HE threw a lot of them out when he started getting 33's)....anyway............... Whenever Dad would sing this thing, at the end of the the 4th bar where it says, A song of Old San Antone"....He would interject, "Beedlelow"...........Anybody remember a recording where they did that? It may have just been one of the Ol' Man's things.....Just wondering. Spaw |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Rose of San Antoine From: Steve Parkes Date: 06 Feb 01 - 06:37 AM For some reason, I've never heard this song sung, only the tune. I've got Les Paul's version (on 78, Spaw -- come round sometime & I'll play it for you!), but I can never get the middle eight and the words to go together. Any clues? Steve |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Rose of San Antoine From: GUEST,Steve Parkes Date: 24 Oct 01 - 06:35 AM I still can't fit the words to the middle eight! Last Saturday I saw an old C&W album in a charity (US=thrift?) shop, with SAR on it: so I bought it, and when I finally got to play it, it was an instrumental! P-L-E-A-S-E, can somebody give me a note-by note, word-by-word account of how it goes, before I go barmy? (Or is it too late for that?) |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Rose of San Antoine From: Gary T Date: 24 Oct 01 - 08:14 AM Try this, Steve. Upper case=accented (1 beat & 3 beat) word or syllable Lower case=unaccented (2 beat & 4 beat) word or syllable *=accented rest ^=unaccented rest /=end of measure (4 beats per measure) (PETALS)=two syllable word compressed to one beat Count a regular 4 quick beats per measure, and it should scan in nicely (I hope!) MOON in ALL your/ SPLENdor * know/ ON^LY my/ HEART ^ * ^/ CALL ^ BACK my/ ROSE ^ ROSE of/ SAN ^ * An/TONE ^ * ^/ LIPS so SWEET and/ TENder * like/ (PETALS) ^ (FALLING) a/PART ^ * ^/ SPEAK ^ ONCE a/GAIN ^ OF my/ LOVE ^ * my/ OWN ^ * ^/ |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Rose of San Antoine From: Gary T Date: 24 Oct 01 - 08:15 AM Arrrgh! Let's try that with better line breaks:
Try this, Steve.
MOON in ALL your/ SPLENdor * know/ ON^LY my/ HEART ^ * ^/ SPEAK ^ ONCE a/GAIN ^ OF my/ LOVE ^ * my/ OWN ^ * ^/ |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Rose of San Antoine From: Gary T Date: 24 Oct 01 - 08:28 AM Whoops! One correction/addition, as the last line of the bridge leads back to the verse: SPEAK ^ ONCE a/GAIN ^ OF my/ LOVE ^ * my/ OWN ^ JUST a/ BRO ^ * ken/ SONG ^ EMPty/ WORDS ^ * i/ KNOW ^ * ^/ * Still (LIVE IN) my/ HEART ^ ALL a/ LONE ^ * ^/ * ^ FOR that/ MOON ^ * lit/ PASS ^ BY the/ AL ^ * a/MO ^ * and/ ROSE ^ * my/ ROSE of SAN An/TONE ^ * ^/ |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Rose of San Antoine From: Gary T Date: 24 Oct 01 - 08:32 AM Okay, last correction (sheesh): The second line of the bridge is sung with a slight pause before singing the word "call", I believe, like so: * call BACK my/ ROSE ^ ROSE of/ SAN ^ * An/TONE ^ * ^/ |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Rose of San Antoine From: SharonA Date: 24 Oct 01 - 09:26 AM Or... just listen to the Patsy Cline version (my personal favorite)! No "ah-haa"s at all in that one! |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Rose of San Antoine From: Steve Parkes Date: 24 Oct 01 - 09:49 AM Ah... I think I've got it! I have to squash in all those syllables at about double the normal rate, and then they scan (sort of!). I'll have to work on htat, 'cos it doesn't come naturally, like the rest of the song does. Thanks Gary! And thanks Sharon--it really would have been easiest to buy another recording, wouldn't it? Steve |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Rose of San Antoine From: Lin in Kansas Date: 24 Oct 01 - 12:07 PM Or go to Amazon, to Willie Nelson's version, and listen to exactly that part of the song here! Lin |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Rose of San Antoine From: Steve in Idaho Date: 24 Oct 01 - 12:18 PM You shouldn't have to speed up the bridge part - it flows as well as the song once you get the timing down. Gary T did a fabulous job of setting the timing down for you. I've only heard Bob Wills do this song so have no idea of how the others arranged it or sang it. Steve If you have Paltalk pm me and I'll do the song for you live this evening. I've played this song for 20+ years and it's a favorite. Always helps if you can do the live thing as then you can ask for repeats on the areas you are struggling with. |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Rose of San Antoine From: GUEST Date: 24 Oct 01 - 01:25 PM Hi Gypsy. I have the original sheet music for this. It doesn't copy well (too discolored, etc) so I have entered it into a NWC file. I can email you the NWC file, a midi file, and/or a gif file (from the NWC). Just PM me your email and what you prefer and I'll email it to you. Cheers, S. in Seattle
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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Rose of San Antoine From: Stewart Date: 24 Oct 01 - 01:28 PM Oops, I guess I have to reset my cookie. I'm Stewart. S. in Seattle |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Rose of San Antoine From: Steve Parkes Date: 25 Oct 01 - 04:02 AM Norton--I'm between computers at present, and only get on the 'Cat at work, so I can't use Paltalk. I shall take up Stewart's offer (even though it was to Gypsy!) and go from there. Thanks everyone, Steve |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Rose of San Antoine From: John in Brisbane Date: 25 Oct 01 - 07:10 PM Suggest please Stewart that you send it to Joe Offer. I would love to have a copy but am quite happy to wait until it has been posted to Mudcat MIDIs. Regards, John johninbrisbane@lycos.com |
Subject: Chords Add: SAN ANTONIO ROSE (Bob Wills) From: Genie Date: 21 Feb 03 - 01:48 AM Here are chords (somewhat simplified from those in the DT). When I play it, I play mostly melody runs, so I don't really use full chords a lot. Genie SAN ANTONIO ROSE (lyrics: Tommy Duncan; music: Bob Wills, ©1930s) (chords) Deep withi[C]in my he[C7]art lies a m[F]elodD7]y, A s[G]ong of o(G7)ld San Ant[C]one. Where in dreams I li[C7]ve with a m[F]emor[D7]y, Be[G]neath the st(G7)ars all a-[C]lone. It was th(C)ere I fou(G7)nd bes(F)ide the Alam(D7)o, Encha(G)ntment stra(G7)nge as the bl(C)ue up above. A mo(C)onlit pa(C7)ss o(F)nly she would kn(D7)ow, Still he(G)ars my br(G7)oken song of lo(C)ve. [G]Moon in a[Gdim]ll your spl(em)endor, know o[D]nly [Bbm]my [D7]heart. Ca[D]ll back my Ro[D7]se, Rose of S[G]an Antone. Lips so sw[Gdim]eet and te(Em)der, Like pe[D]tals falling ap[D7]art. Sp[D]eak once ag[D7]ain of my lo[G]ve, my o[G7]wn. Br(C)oken so(C7)ng, empty w(F)ords I kn(D7)ow, Still l(G)ive in my he(G7)art all al(C)one, For that mo(C)onlit pa(C7)ss by the A(F)lam(D7)o, And R(G)ose, my R(G7)ose of San Ant(C)one. |
Subject: Chords Add: SAN ANTONIO ROSE (Bob Wills) From: Genie Date: 22 Feb 03 - 12:38 AM I goofed on one of the chords above (put a G7 in the first line of verse #2, where there should have been C7). Here are the chords I use. I don't use the C7, because I play a melody run on the C chord, and I use a walk down from G to Em instead of G---> Gdim--> G in the bridge. I also don't use the B flat minor, because I'm mainly picking individual strings instead of strumming chords. Genie San Antonio Rose (lyrics: Tommy Duncan; music: Bob Wills, ©1935?) C F D7 C F D7 G â Em D D7 C F D7 |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Rose of San Antoine From: Kaleea Date: 22 Feb 03 - 02:20 AM Since I grew up in Tulsa, I can't imagine never having heard anyone sing San Antonio Rose! Even the local Senior Citizen's Country & Western Band (in Tulsa) plays all the old Wills bros songs/tunes for the local nursing homes! If any of you are still tying to figure out how those words fit in the bridge, I suggest you take Route 66 into Tulsa & stop into a local diner for some Chicken Fried Steak & iced tea, & while you're there, play the juke box--San Antonio Rose is bound to be in there somewhere! Or, you might visit Johnny Lee Wills' Western Wear Store & you ought to be able to hear some classic tunes being played there! I suppose that Neeeeeee Haaaaaaah & Aaaaaaaaaah haaaaaaaah are an aquired taste for some. Take it away, Leon . . . |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Rose of San Antoine From: GUEST,jaze Date: 22 Feb 03 - 04:51 PM Emmylou Harris does a song called San Antone Rose on an early lp, but it's different from the words posted above. |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Rose of San Antoine From: Cluin Date: 22 Feb 03 - 05:02 PM I know she recorded "I'll Be Your San Antonio Rose" and Poco's "Rose of Cimarron" |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Rose of San Antoine From: Genie Date: 22 Feb 03 - 09:57 PM Sorry, folks. That Em in the bridge should be Em7. I actually use a chord that I have seen referred to as "G/B" --022033. Also, the Bob Wills songbook I have --Bob Wills, King Of Western Swing, Published by Hal-Leondard Corp.--gives only Bob Wills as the author of the song. If Tommy Duncan wrote the lyrics, I'm wondering why he wasn't given credit in that book, which has all of Wills's bigh hits. Genie |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Rose of San Antone From: Genie Date: 23 Feb 03 - 07:40 AM Oops! That's Hal-Leonard Corp. |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Rose of San Antoine From: Cluin Date: 27 Feb 03 - 09:31 PM Those chords up above are pretty damn good, Genie, but I'd make a couple of tiny changes (bolded) myself in the bridge: [G]Moon in all your [G#dim]splendor, know [D]only my [Am]heart [D]Call back my [Am]Rose, [D7]Rose of [G]San Antone Lips so sweet and [G#dim]tender, Like [D]petals falling ap[Am]art [D]Speak once a[D7]gain of my [G]love, my [G7]own The Bbm is nice in there as a passing chord between the D's and Am's if you can get it in without disturbing the flow. But I'm used to hearing this one clip along nicely with fairly regular chording. Another variation for the verses: Replace the G7 in the second line with a G augmented: Deep withi[C]in my [C7]heart lies a [F]melod[D7]y, A [G]song of [G+]old San An[C]tone... Swings it up a bit. |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Rose of San Antoine From: Cluin Date: 27 Feb 03 - 09:50 PM One more idea... It makes a nice transition from the end of the bridge back into the verse if you play a G , G aug, Em, G7 progression at the end instead of just the G7: [D]Speak once a[D7]gain of my [G]love, [G+]my [Em]ow-[G7]own... G x55433 G+ xx5443 Em xx5453 G7 xx5463 |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Rose of San Antoine From: GUEST,Guest Date: 27 Feb 03 - 11:07 PM Seamus Kennedy does the very best version,unquestionably!!! |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Rose of San Antoine From: Seamus Kennedy Date: 28 Feb 03 - 02:09 AM Thanks, Guest, but that's only because I had Buddy Charleton of Ernest Tubb's Texas Troubadours (he also played in Patsy Cline's band) on pedal steel, Bob Spates with a little twin fiddle magic, and Brad Hayford on lead, while I did my tribute to the late great Tommy Duncan on vocals and rhythm. I loved doing that song! Come to think of it, I like singing ANY great song, I don't care where it's from. A great song is a great song and it needs to be sung. Seamus |
Subject: Chords Add: SAN ANTONIO ROSE (Bob Wills) From: Genie Date: 28 Feb 03 - 08:56 PM Cluin, the fancy chords in my Bob Wills, King Of Western Swing songbook and the ones you suggested are great if you are strumming whole chords on most beats of the song, but if you are picking only one or two notes on many words and perhaps none on some others, they aren't needed. (If I put my fingers in position for a diminished chord on the "all" in the first line of the bridge, you wouldn't hear the chord, because I hit only one string on that word, for example. And the melody run I do on the first few words of each verse isn't within the G7 chord.) Another reason I use the simplified chords is that I often do this in jams where augmented chords are considered "jam busters." Plus, as you can see, when folks do throw in the passing chords, etc., they often use different ones or use the same ones but in different places. Anyway, it's nice to see some of the possible chord pattern variations. FWIW, here, IIRC, are the chords from my Bob Wills book, in the key of G: SAN ANTONIO ROSE (lyrics: Tommy Duncan; music: Bob Wills, ©1940) Deep withi[G]in my he[G7]art lies a m[C]elod[A7]y, It was th(G)ere I fou(G7)nd bes(F)ide the Alam(A7)o, [D]Moon in a[Ddim]ll your spl(Bm)endor, know o[A]nl[Fm]y my [A7]heart. Br(G)oken so(G7)ng, empty w(C)ords I kn(A7)ow, And here they are in C: Deep with-[C]in my [G7]heart lies a [F]melod[D7]y, [G]Moon in all [Gdim]your [D7]splen-[G]dor, know [D7]only [Bbm]my [D9]heart. I haven't heard Seamus do the song, but Jed Marum does a bang-up job, too! Genie |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Rose of San Antoine From: JohnnyBeezer Date: 01 Mar 03 - 12:22 PM I love Asleep at the wheel's version. Johnny N |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Rose of San Antoine From: GUEST,bstreeter@verizon.net Date: 13 Oct 05 - 04:12 PM Looking for sheet music for piano for Rose of San Antoine. Any help you can give me would be great. Bstreet |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Rose of San Antoine From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 13 Oct 05 - 04:50 PM San Antone (not Antoine). Google shows Sheet music advertised on several sites. |
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