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Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest

Mrrzy 08 Feb 01 - 09:01 PM
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Subject: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Mrrzy
Date: 08 Feb 01 - 09:01 PM

I don't know what possessed me to call a thread NonMusic when I was going to ask for mudcatters...

Anyway, I may be receiving, as a Big Bday present, plane tickets to Seattle. If that happens, I'll take my 10-day vacation there instead of the beach in NC (sorry, Matt!), and am looking for local advice. I *know* I must see the Big Grand Coulee Dam (and sing same), I'd like to see Portland, but I can't get any inkling of scale, somehow - Can one drive to Portland from Seattle for a day's visit? Does it take 3 days to get there? How about Seattle to the BGCD? I want to take the twins to see a real volcano - hear some local folk clubs - my friend will take me to his style of place, he's mid/late 30's, bent, queer, francophone, and a general delight, very GenXy to me... but I'll have 6-year old twins by then, who will need their style of entertainment too, and we'll have to get a babysitter so we can go out after the boys crash a few nights. He has a real job, so most days it'lll be just me and the boys, any local folks who can hang out? This will be circa the first week of August...


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Matt_R
Date: 08 Feb 01 - 09:09 PM

From the Grand Coulee Dam to the Capitol...


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Amergin
Date: 08 Feb 01 - 09:33 PM

Well, Portland is only about three hours from Seattle....Come on down!!!


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 08 Feb 01 - 09:39 PM

You could go to Portland and back in a day trip but only under duress and with twins it would be awful. I am not in a position to offer hospitality at this time since I just have a teensy studio, but perhaps someone else can. Will you have a car? You really should see Mt. St. Helen's. The kids will love it. Otherwise, there is the Seattle Zoo, Seattle Center, Portland Zoo, ??? Grand Coolee is a separate trip. If y ou woud like a smaller but still powerful dam with great fish stuff, Bonneville is not far from Portland. if time is limited I would forgo Grand Coolee unless it is really important to you. mg


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Benjamin
Date: 08 Feb 01 - 11:00 PM

You could go to Portland, but why? It's about 4 hours away. I live in the Ballard area of Seattle, but expect to be gone the first week of August.
The Grand Coulee Dam is a separate trip, but it's awsome (though Eastern Washington gets HOT at that time of the year)! Mt. St. Helens is a nice place. I believe Mt. Rainer is suppose to erupt sometime. Also a nice place.
As for folk clubs, not much for someone under 21.
Enjoy your visit though. August is a nice, dry time of the year.


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: GUEST,Bruce O.
Date: 09 Feb 01 - 12:31 AM

I think it's been over a century since Mt. Rainier erupted. I've only been up to about 12,000 feet on that one, but have been to the top of Mt. Adams a little south east of it, and although it hasn't erupted for a long time there's a false peak facing east, the back side of which is a rock face that disappears into a black hole from which a lot of steam and hydrogen sulfide pours out. From Adams one could see the top of Mt. St. Helens, but no top to look at now.


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 09 Feb 01 - 01:07 AM

There's plenty of stuff to see in the Seattle area. I recommend you save Portland for another vacation. Don't forget to stop at Ivar's Acre of Clams for lunch or dinner. It's on a pier in the sound. Nearby there's a great aquarium.


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Metchosin
Date: 09 Feb 01 - 02:12 AM

And be sure to visit Pike Place Market!


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Metchosin
Date: 09 Feb 01 - 02:18 AM

Oh! and I forgot! The Jimi Hendrix Museum! and for the kids The Seattle Science Centre, lots of interactive things for small frys and adults.


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: GUEST,Curtis & Loretta
Date: 09 Feb 01 - 02:39 AM

Definitely take in a Seattle Folklore Society concert. Their concerts are at several different venues; check out their schedule at http://www.seafolklore.org/folksche.html

Other places offering folk / acoustic music are: Madison's Cafe in SW Seattle Tractor Tavern in Seattle

Have a great time!

Loretta Simonet


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Musicman
Date: 09 Feb 01 - 04:17 AM

HEY!!! like Vancouver CANADA is only 2.5 hours from Seattle (the way i drive anyway!)... come-on up for a visit, I'll find room for the family, take you out for a pint and some great music... show you the sites of one of the prettiest cities in North America........ take you out for a sail on the harbour...

Where else can you Golf, Sail, and Ski (no skiing in august of course) all in the same day, all within 20 mins of downtown!!

come spend a couple of days...... love to have you......

musicman.....


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: John P
Date: 09 Feb 01 - 08:24 AM

Camlann Medieval Faire will probably be going on then.

I work for a company called Dusty Strings that builds harps and hammered dulcimers. We do tours through the instrument building shop if you have any interest in that. We also have a large acoustic music store where you can always find info about what's going on in the local folk music and dance community. And I'm always interested in meeting other Mudcatters.

Other places that often have folk music are Bitters Co., The Wit's End Bookstore, The Greatful Bread, Valdi's Bistro, The Fiddler's Inn, and The Hopvine Pub.

John Peekstok


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: SINSULL
Date: 09 Feb 01 - 08:32 AM

The boys will love the Pike's Place Market and the local shops. Lots of little coffe shops. Will the peaches be in season then? Anybody know?


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Mrrzy
Date: 09 Feb 01 - 10:00 AM

OOh, musicman, I just might! Keep'm coming, guys, this is beginning to sound FUN.

I think the plan is this: spend the weekend in seattle, spend the week moseying around, go to the Big Grand Coolee Dam and the Bonneville Dam one day maybe, go down to Portland overnight one day, go up to Vancouver CA one overnight, and so on. Then probably spend the last weekend in Seattle again. Kind of a circle thing. I would travel out on Friday, and travel back the Sunday of the following week. Monday is then recovery day, and I go back to work Tues. Also, the clubs would be for me, I'm over 21...


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Wesley S
Date: 09 Feb 01 - 11:19 AM

My wife and I will be in Seattle for a convention of hers in June. We're wondering if we should go up to Vancouver for a couple of days or head over to the Olympic peninsula and find a bed and breakfast. Suggestions anyone?? Mrrzy - Thanks for starting this thread. I'll try not to hijack it.

And John P - I've already made plans to visit Dusty Strings to look at zouks while my wife is at her convention. We'll be staying downtown near the Market. I'll make a point of saying hello. Count on it.


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Musicman
Date: 09 Feb 01 - 11:34 AM

Wesley, if you wanna come to Vancouver, let me know!!!

Mrzzy, if you decide to come north, let me know in advance so we can connect you with some music....... (and make sure i'm in town!!)


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: mousethief
Date: 09 Feb 01 - 04:28 PM

Camlann Medieval Faire is (IMHO) not nearly as fun as it could be, if it were all it could be. (Is that delicate enough?)

Plenty of stuff to do. If you're from the flat lands, you might enjoy going up into the mountains -- some of the ski resorts will run the chairlifts during the summer for bikers, hikers, etc. -- this will take you to the top of a fair-sized hill, thus affording wonderful views.

Snoqualamie Falls is just about an hour east of Seattle, not far off Interstate 90, and well worth the side-trip. 3 times higher than Niagara, although not nearly as much water.

You will want to see the Pike Place Market and the Aquarium, the latter only if you like fish and marine wildlife in general. A wonderful half-day trip is to take a ferry across the sound to Bremerton, and then just get on the same ferry coming back. If the weather is clear the view of the mountains and the city is spectacular. If the weather is lousy it's more of a mode of commuting than a tourist attraction.

A stroll down the waterfront is a lot of fun. All sorts of weird and interesting shops, great finger-food (if on the expensive side). The local claim-to-fame food is alder-smoked salmon. Heaven. The very best Alder-smoked salmon (abbv: ASS) is at Ivar's Salmon House, located on the canal just west of the University of Washington, on the north shore of Lake Union.

Lake Union itself is a lovely thing to see.

Seattle has the Experience Music Project, a huge hands-on museum dedicated to music, and adjacent is the site of the 1962 World's Fair, the Seattle Center, which has all sorts of interesting stuff going on pretty much all the time, including the Science Center (hands-on science for the whole family), the Children's Museum (never been but it sounds macabre, don't it?), the Space Needle (fabulous views!), etc.

For the best view in the city, however, don't pay any money to go up the Space Needle. The best view is from the top of the water tower in Volunteer Park. This huge and beautiful park is just east of downtown Seattle (you'll of course need a map because none of the streets go through, and the ones that do change names five times before they get there).

The State History Museum is just 30 miles south, in Tacoma. Adjacent to the beautiful Union Station that Steve Miller filmed the video for "Make the World Turn Around" in -- it's now a Federal courthouse.

A quick side-tour from Tacoma will take you across "Sturdy Gurdy," the replacement of the old "Galloping Gurdy," the famous suspension bridge that fell apart in a windstorm in the late 1940's. Lovely span, gorgeous view of Mt. Rainier.

Mt. Rainier itself is an all-day trip. By the first week of August, the back side will be open, which is by far the more scenic and less touristy side. There is a visitor's center at a place called "Sunrise" on the east side, several thousand feet higher than the more-well-known "Paradise" on the south side. You can circumnavigate the mountain, and if you do so you MUST stop at the "Box Canyon" photo op parking lot. Just incredible.

If anybody on the trip is into dolls, the World Doll Museum is in Bellevue, just across the bridge from Seattle. In fact, you MUST drive across at least one of the famous floating bridges. I-90 is the larger bridge, and the more pleasant and interesting drive.

For music, there are lots of interesting venues you can check out. Be sure to look at the Seattle Folklife Society's home page. There are cafes in the area that specialize in blues, folk, etc.

By all means as the day draws nearer, feel free to contact me at mousethief@yahoo.com. I live about 50 miles south of Seattle and have all sorts of ideas for things to do, depending on your tastes and budget. Would be fun to actually meet somebody from Mudcat in 3D, too. Maybe the local Mudcat contingent can get together and meet the Mrrzy family while he's here? What about it, guys?

Grand Coulee Dam is about a 5 hour drive from Seattle. You will also want to visit the dry coulees when you're there -- huge cliffs where the glacier-diverted Columbia River used to thunder during the last ice age. Best plan is to plan to spend the night (or 2) in eastern Washington -- either in Chelan or Wenatchee, both very lovely towns (the former very small and the latter mid-sized) in the heart of apple country.

I could go on for hours rhapsodizing about my home state. It's a lovely place to live, and a lovely place to visit. Hope to see you this summer!

Alex


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: mousethief
Date: 09 Feb 01 - 04:33 PM

Did I mention that Vancouver, BC and Portland, Oregon are two of the loveliest cities in the world? A fun itenerary would be to drive from Seattle up to Vancouver, then back down to SR 20, the North Cascades Highway, which has stunning views through very jagged, Alaska-style mountains. This will bring you down on the "dry side" and you can then follow the Columbia River to Portland, Oregon, seeing lots of beautiful and interesting things along the way, including the world's deepest freshwater lake (Chelan), a way-cool petrified forest, the dams, the dry falls, apple country, wine country, and the wind-surfing stuff along the Columbia between Wa and Or.

You'll want also to take the short side-trip to Multnomah Falls, where the Columbia cuts through the Cascade Mountains (breathtaking!) on its way to the sea (the mountains are younger than the river, so as they pushed up, it just kept cutting its way through. It's called the COlumbia River Gorge in Portland, and it's the coolest thing!). The mouth of the Columbia at Astoria, OR is also well worth seeing. Then you can either come up the coast and see the world's longest white-sand beach (Long Beach, WA), and then cut across at Olympia, and take in the state capitol and such, or come straight up I-5 and take the side trip to Mt. St. Helens.

I'm rhapsodizing again, aren't I? I'll shut up now.

Alex


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: GUEST,Amergin@work
Date: 09 Feb 01 - 05:54 PM

In Astoria there is one of the best Maritime museums on the west coast if not THE best....that is if it is your sort of thing...

Amergin


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: mousethief
Date: 09 Feb 01 - 06:22 PM

And some wonderful Victorian painted ladies.

Hush, Matt. I'm talking about houses.


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 09 Feb 01 - 06:36 PM

Mrrzy, they've got you set up for 3 weeks at the least! If I were you I'd spend more time in the Seattle area and pick one direction for a 2-day side trip: North to Vancouver, east to the Grand Coulee if you insist (though I for one would never drive that far to see a damn dam), or south to Portland and the Columbia Gorge (where you can also see a damn dam). That way you'll have time to take a ferry across Elliott Bay, go sailing on Lake Washington or Lake Union (check out the Center for Wooden Boats at the south end), go to hear lots of wonderful music, (check out Victory Music for a massive list of all the folk music in the area), and RELAX -- you're on vacation! Besides, the twins will have much more fun going to the Zoo and Seattle Center (including the science museum) and the Ship Canal locks (kids love to watch the boats go up and down) than riding in the car for hours and hours. I have a six-year-old, so I know whereof I speak.

OK, you have all the advice, and everybody's favorite stuff. Now enjoy yourself! (One caution: Grand Coulee Dam and Bonneville Dam in "one day maybe"? No can do.)

Aloha,
Mark


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: mousethief
Date: 09 Feb 01 - 06:45 PM

If you saw Grand Coulee at sunrise, I think you could just about take in Bonneville at sunset. In August.


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Ebbie
Date: 09 Feb 01 - 08:50 PM

Sinsull, if I remember correctly, the early peaches will be just coming on in August. Tomatoes in full glory. Early apples ready. Wild blackberries just ripening. This is true in the Willamette Valley, however- may not be true a few hundred miles farther north.

(The one thing I miss living in Juneau is the lovely produce in the Pacific Northwest. Here we have salmonberries, thimble berries (bleeeh), raspberries, dewberries, nagoonberries (mmmmm), cloudberries, crowberries and blueberries. Blueberries here are great. Wide as your thumbnail and plentiful. Watch out for bears, though.)

Eb


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: JR
Date: 09 Feb 01 - 11:39 PM

You're listening to a bunch of West Siders. Go over the Mountains to see God's side of Washington, & Grand Coulee.


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: rangeroger
Date: 09 Feb 01 - 11:58 PM

I'm going to keep an eye on this thread for the chance of some sort of Mudcat get together during the time you're in Seattle, Mrrzy. It's a 5 hour drive from where I live but it should make an interesting weekend adventure.And you should get over the mountains and see a little more of the state.

If you decide to go to Grand Coulee,that might be an interesting place to meet as I've never seen it either. We could sing Woody Guthrie songs while standing on it.

rr


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Lyrical Lady
Date: 10 Feb 01 - 12:19 AM

Hey Musicman... seeing as you're the designated Tour Guide, don't forget to include a visit to our "local" Gulf Islands! A must see for all visitors! LL


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Amergin
Date: 10 Feb 01 - 01:54 AM

You know, rangerroger, that sounds like a great idea...maybe we can all meet at some midpoint...that is if the guest of honor is interested...


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: rangeroger
Date: 10 Feb 01 - 11:47 PM

JenEllen and I have discussed this,with Leavenworth, Wa being mentioned at one point. She lives in Yakima.

Sure seems like an opportunity for a Northwest Mudcatters'Get Together.(did I put the apostrophe in the right place?)

rr


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: RoyH (Burl)
Date: 11 Feb 01 - 08:21 AM

I hope to be singing in the PNW,late Sept. Early Oct. No details as yet but contact merrherr@aol.com if interested. I'd love to meet some of you. Burl.


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Metchosin
Date: 11 Feb 01 - 01:51 PM

Do you want Music? Do you want scenery? Do you want charm?

Consider THIS!!!

Last year's Rootsfest line up included:

Alejandro Escovedo
Alpha Ya Ya Diallo
Altan
Andres Condon
Blind Boys of Alabama
Blue Rodeo
Chuck Brodsky
Daniel Lapp
David Essig
David Lindley with Wally Ingram
Doug Cox and Rick Fines
Ferron
From Both Ends of the Earth
George Gao
Great Big Sea
Joan Armatrading
John Reischman
Karen Savoca
Kimmie Rhodes
Kwakwakawa'kw Dancers
La Bottine Souriante
La Volee d'Castors
Luann Kowalek
Liu Fang/Farham Sabbagh
Mad Pudding
Mandolirium
Natalie MacMaster
Pied Pumkin
Ray Wylie Hubbard
Ricardo Lemvo
Ruh Afza
Shashi Lata Virk
Shooglenifty
Sunyata
Stacey Earle
Tammy Fassaert
Tapia et Leturia
Tarika
Westerlies
Willie and Lobo
Willie P. Bennett

Don't know about this year's lineup or date, but I do know Mandolirium (my little brother) is on again (not bad, considering its difficult, if not almost impossible for local heroes to appear twice) and rumour has it that Shooglenify is returning.

Despite Mousethief's grousing, (methinks a bit like the pot calling the kettle black, Victoria is not an industrial city, nor nuclear power based, although there is no excuse for it, I'll admit, but hey, don't blame me I'm on a septic system and have no vote within the city limits) you might consider Vancouver Island and Victoria, the capital city of B.C.. Just a jump across the pond by ferry.

If you are wanting something more intimate, music-wise, try Swan's Pub on a Thursday evening and we'll meet you there or PM me and we'll see what can be arranged.


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Lin in Kansas
Date: 11 Feb 01 - 08:11 PM

Mrrzy, there are so many places to go and things to do in Seattle alone, that you could spend your entire two weeks there and only hit the surface.

Here's a couple more: Elliott Bay Bookstore; Shorey's Used and Rare Books; the Magic Mouse toy store in Pioneer Square (you'll have to drag the twins out, and somebody may have to drag you out first); any number of taverns in that general vicinity that play some outrageous blues; the J&M Cafe (to see the gorgeous antique bar); the Guild 45th movie house; the Fifth Avenue Theater; and not at all least--if you go by and visit John at Dusty Strings (HI JOHN--Tell Cali and Alden hello for me!!), get him to tell you how to find the troll under the Ballard Bridge.

Love Seattle--this is making me homesick.

Lin


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Mrrzy
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 04:35 PM

*sigh* I'm only going to have 10 days, guys, but I can PROMISE that I'll go to Vancouver and Portland. I like the idea of going up one side and down the other to go around. I'll have a week to do the traveling, plus the weekends on either side in Seattle. I'm hungry already... and I'll miss the Vancouver Folk Music Festival, I can only travel in August...

(Aside: anyone else traveling to this area isn't hijacking this thread.)


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: GUEST,Seth in China
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 05:47 PM

Let's see. If you come to Seattle in August with little kids, you will find the PIke Place Market crowded with Tourists from wherever, but if you must go, do it on a Tuesday morning. I suggest going to Port Townsend. It's much more on a scale that small kids can enjoy, unless they are obsessed with the heavily advertised attractions of Seattle, in which case I would go to the Seattle Center, Pacific Science Center and that area. Port Townsend has frequent music festivals, through Centrum at Fort Worden State Park, lots of pleasant places to eat with kids that don't rip you off, lots of low key things to do that kids like. Go to Chetzamoka Park and throw a frisbee around or bring a picnic. Drive down to Discovery Bay and be sure to stop at Eaglemount ROckeries, one of the least heralded tourist attractions in America, See the motel they used in "Officer and a Gentleman" I 've traveled with little kids, and they quickly get blown away by the super-hyped tourist stuff. If you have the inclination, get on a ferry in Port ANgeles and go to Victoria. THe B.C. Provincial Museum is pretty cool for kids and adults. Drive to Nanimo. Get on another ferry to Gabriola Island, an nice place to visit for a day. There are musicians of every shape and kind in Nanimo and POrt Townsend, chances are someone will be playing music somewhere that is kid friendly. I would sure resist that urge to go Tacoma to drive across the NArrows Bridge, however, as it is frequently a traffic snarled back-up sitting in the car while your kids have to poop kind of experience. There are lots of cool things to see and do in this part of the country if you go just one level down.


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Mrrzy
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 08:13 PM

Great advice, sounds like you Been There and They Had To Poop...


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Gypsy
Date: 14 Mar 01 - 11:31 AM

Alex, is the restaurant at Snoqualomie falls still open? Ah, those 6 course breakfasts! Then the hike to the foot of the falls, afterwards. Miss living there.


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Amergin
Date: 14 Mar 01 - 02:04 PM

Well, I'm glad to hear that you'll be coming down to Oregon....Can't wait!!


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: mousethief
Date: 14 Mar 01 - 02:22 PM

Hope you enjoy your time in the beautiful Pacific Northwest. And of course that you don't decide to move here.

Alex


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: harpmolly
Date: 14 Mar 01 - 02:23 PM

Oregon No Ka Oi!

(wait, that was Maui. Well, Oregon is the best too. :))

Let us Portlanders know when you'll be in town!

Moll


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: BEK
Date: 14 Mar 01 - 03:07 PM

Okay, I'm going to get dinged for this by the folks who hate touristy sites, but the Seattle Underground was the most fun tour I've ever had. I also loved Pike Place Market and just strolling around downtown Seattle. The Pacific Science Center (particularly the butterfly house) is wonderful. Seattle Zoo is great---don't waste your $$$ on Tacoma's.

Vancouver's acquarium and Grenville Island are fabulous.

If you get to Portland, try to go to McMenamamin's to see a movie and have a meal. Pied Cow is a great place for dessert for the kiddoes---in an old Painted Lady.

Also, Dave Carter and Tracy Grammer are FROM Portland. I don't know what their schedule is like, but you owe it to yourself to go listen if they are in town.

The Aladdin Theatre (which used to be a porn theatre) is the best venue in PDX for live music. Saw some truly great acts there.

Mt St Helens, the Columbia River Gorge are not to be missed.

Have a wonderful time. You are going at the best time of the year.


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Amergin
Date: 14 Mar 01 - 03:24 PM

Saint John's Pub in Portland is also a great venue....nice atmosphere and such.....


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Deckman
Date: 14 Mar 01 - 10:31 PM

Hi Gypsy ... do you remember those breakfasts at the Snoqualome (sp?) lodge where the waitress stands on the chair, and dribbles fresh honey from a spoon onto your homemade biscut, six feet below without spilling a dribble ... clearly an art form. CHEERS, deckman


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: GUEST,Seth in China
Date: 15 Mar 01 - 03:12 PM

More about my home area. Grand Coulee is very impressive, but it's a looong drive over there from Seattle on the hottest days of the year in the hottest part of the state. Route 2 across the state is a nice back highway that goes through lots of little towns with nary a Mickey D in sight till you get to Spokane. POint Defiance park in Tacoma is nice, and right up the street is the Antique Sandwich club, where they have frequent live music. Seattle has funky old waterfront streetcars, which my kids always loved. Enjoy! Seth from China


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: mousethief
Date: 15 Mar 01 - 03:22 PM

Grand Coulee is a great thing to see maybe on a SECOND visit. It is an awfully long drive and all. Then again it's not TOO far from Lake Chelan (world's deepest freshwater lake), and that's worth a whole day, to take the Lady of the Lake up to the opposite end of the lake. Simply mindbogglingly beautiful scenery.

So much to see, so little time!

Alex


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Mrrzy
Date: 13 Apr 01 - 12:14 PM

It seems to be shaping up for the week before Labor Day, including that weekend possibly... And Amergin, I *have* to come to Portland, there is a small town with my name near there... gotta have postards postmarked Me! Am also planning Vancouver... if I can get IDs for my kids in time...


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Amergin
Date: 13 Apr 01 - 12:38 PM

Great! I can't wait to finally meet you in person, Mrrz! I will make myself available for when you are in the area!

BTW did my suggestion about your email work?


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Mrrzy
Date: 13 Apr 01 - 12:47 PM

No, I never did get it fixed, I think I have to have my machine reghosted or something. Which I've wanted to do anyway ever since I heard the term!


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Amergin
Date: 13 Apr 01 - 01:03 PM

LOL!

Well, that sucks.


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: GUEST,Bruce O.
Date: 13 Apr 01 - 02:46 PM

Have been to almost all the place mentioned above (except I haven't wind surfed on the Columbia. I'm too old to do that now, but will probably be out to the tri-cities area in a few months (working for Battelle Northwest).

Climbed Mt. Adams, climbed on Mt. Rainier, climbed several in the Olympics (my backyard) and hiked and did rock climbing practice in North Cascades (before and after 'park' status). Further south, (in Oregon) I got my Tillamook Polo Club tee shirt (they ride Holsteins). Be sure to visit the Oregon dunes. Pick a clear day to visit Crater Lake. The first time I went there the fog was so bad I couldn't see the lake, but on a clear day you can see past Klamath Lake to California (but need binoculars to see Mt. Shasta). Also, don't miss the Rogue River area or the beautiful Wallowa Valley. I've forgotten exactly where the obsidian mountain is, not too far from the fossil beds.


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: GUEST,Bruce O.
Date: 13 Apr 01 - 02:57 PM

Jim Dixon, do you remember when Ivar Hagland had his folk music program on Sunday morning radio? I found out that Sandy Paton does. Can you guess what Ivar's theme song was?


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: GUEST,Bruce O.
Date: 13 Apr 01 - 02:57 PM

Jim Dixon, do you remember when Ivar Hagland had his folk music program on Sunday morning radio? I found out that Sandy Paton does. Can you guess what Ivar's theme song was?


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: GUEST,Bruce O.
Date: 13 Apr 01 - 10:32 PM

Now how did that doubling happen?

The West coast is very interesting in the summer time if you're within about 150 miles of the Pacific Ocean. In British Cloumbia you mostly meet Washingtonians on vacation, and in Washington it's Oregonians on vacation, and in Oregon it Californians on vacation.

Not quite true. I went from Washington, DC to Vancouver, BC and was surprised to meet a Washingtonian, who was only a temporary one, at the ferry dock in Vancouver (My niece from Wisconsin, working for the Park Service in Port Angeles) My sister and her daugther, shopping late, caught up with us on the ferry, and that's where the two cousins first met.

I haven't been to Alaska. Are there any Alaskans to be seen in the summer?


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: GUEST,Bruce O.
Date: 13 Apr 01 - 10:43 PM

Incidently, Seth in China, if you see a white haired man playing a fiddle at Fort Worden, that's probably Murray on Saltspring, the one who is known as MS in the DT. [I may have see him there, but I didn't know what he looked like until about 10 years ago.]


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Mrrzy
Date: 16 Apr 01 - 12:29 PM

Yo, Vancouver - any chance you could come to Seattle? I might not be able to take the twins across an international border, there are custody issues...


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Mrrzy
Date: 27 Apr 01 - 01:38 PM

UPDATE - I'll be out there the week of Aug 17 though 25, although I am tempted to stay to the 26th for the chantey sing... Amergin, anyone else out there, head's up! But it does look as if Vancouver will have to come to me, although I'll come to Portland.


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Amergin
Date: 27 Apr 01 - 02:50 PM

Alright! I can't wait to finally meet you, Mrrzy! I am looking forward to it!


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: MAG (inactive)
Date: 27 Apr 01 - 03:35 PM

Bruce O., you will probably want to look up Three Rivers Folk Club sooner rather than later. They put on concerts, dances, and a very nice little Festival over Labor Day -- Tumbleweeds -- includes a song contest, workshops, a children's site, etc.

You will soon discover that everything this side of the Cascades is far away from everything else.


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: GUEST,Jon Bartlett
Date: 28 Apr 01 - 02:59 AM

Early birds this summer who like to sing might like to check out the Vancouver Folk Song Society's umptieth (27th?) Annual Retreat, weekend of 22-24 June. For $70CAN or $US45 yuou get a whole weekend of music, music, music, workshops, the beach outside the door, campfires, concerts and gourmet (and I mean gourmet) catered food. The Retreat happens at Camp Alexandra, in White Rock (just across the border on the I5). Call me at (604)526-2804 for more info or check the website at www.geocities.com/vfss.geo/


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: dr soul
Date: 28 Apr 01 - 04:32 AM

Hey, check to see if the Clumsy Lovers are playing anywhere in on your NW itinerary. Great young gen-Y electric folk band from BC (Canada) but they tour through Washington and Oregon. Have a great time while you're here.


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Subject: ADD: Tiptoe Through the Tourists
From: CRANKY YANKEE
Date: 28 Apr 01 - 04:44 AM

I live in Newport, RI, Talk about tourism. My wife wrote the words to the following, you can easily catch onto the melody. It could apply as well to the Pacific Northwest. Though they can sometimes be bothersome, we, nevcertheless, like them o.k. Newport's life depends on their visits. So, the following is offered good naturedly.

TIPTOE THROUGH THE TOURISTS. (words by Donna Gibson C1992)

I
Tiptoe through the tourists, it's the purest kind of native glee.
So come tiptoe through the tourists with me.
Can't get near the beaches, that'l teach yez, to live by the sea,
so come tiptoe through the tourists with me.

knee deep in traffic we'll play
Don't park, they'll tow you away
(extra line)
I'm here to tell you that...........

Summer, is a bummer, when there's nothing you can do for free, but,
Tiptoe through the tourists with me.

II
Way back, last December, you remember, how it used to be
When you tiptoed past the "Condo's" with me
There was Bar room, there was Car room, and landlords rented more reasonably
When you tiptoed 'cross the ice floes with me.

We were so happy and gay
Planning new pot holes for May
(extra line)
But though they.......

Bore us and ignore us, we give directions cheerfully
So come tiptoe through the tourists with me.


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: John P
Date: 28 Apr 01 - 07:45 AM

Mrrzy, I don't know what else is going on that week yet, but my band Telynor will be playing at the Canterbury Festival in Kent on the 18th. It's a largish craft fair with entertainment ranging from trad to world to contempory folk. I think there's usually a couple of reenactor encampments as well. Kent is between Seattle and Tacoma to the south. Be sure to drop by Dusty Strings and say hi while you are in town.

John Peekstok


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Gypsy
Date: 29 Apr 01 - 01:17 AM

Cranky Yanqui, LOVE IT!!! Have spent the last 20 plus years living in a tourist town. (Yes, we went from quaint, and outhouses, to tourist and indoor plumbing in that time span.) Too wonderful! Mrzzzz....as well as the redoubtable Dusty Strings (which was MY tourist trap when i was there) there is a small Lark in the Morning store there, too. Nuthin like the home store, but maybe im biased. Definitly a must see.


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: CRANKY YANKEE
Date: 29 Apr 01 - 03:05 AM

The last part of "tiptoe through the tourists" was misprinted. Starting with the middle 8 of the second verse, it should read:

We were so happy and gay
Planning new pot-holes for May,

(extra line)And though they ..............

Amuse us and abuse us we give directions cheerfully
So come tiptoe through the tourists with me./

Dear Gypsy, glad you like it. Yanqui is what aour neighbors to the south call all Norte Americanos, "Damyankee" is what my fellow Americans in the South East call all other Americans. A YANKEE is a person who lives in New England, ONLY. (connecticut, Rhode Island , Massachusetts, New Hampshire and Vermont) It.s O.K. though, it doesn't matter so much that it's mis-use, however, should come between friends. Some more trivia:

Most people who only look at maps when they must, don't know that there really is a Rhode ISLAND. it's only about as long as Manhattan. There are only three communities on Rhode Island, The city of Newport, the villiage of Middletown and the town of Portsmouth. Our States full name (And as it appears on all official documents and letterheads) is, THE STATE OF RHODE ISLAND AND PROVIDENCE PLANTATIONS. The Island is also known by it's Indian name, "Aquidneck". There's a great cartoon done by a very good local hunourist named Don Bosque, that depicts a huge sign, hung over Interstate 95, which reads, "WELCOME TO RHODE ISLAND, KEEP YOUR SMART REMARKS TO YOURSELF"
Though our State is the smallest in size, we have more coastline, by far, than any other state. There are lots of Islands in addition to Rhode Island, in Narragansett Bay and Rhode Island Sound, Including Connanicut, Block Island, Goat Island, Rose Island, Cuttyhunk, Patience and Prudence, etc. etc etc. that given these facts it's easy to see how that could be.

If I'm ever out your way, I'll stop by the Dusty Strings to say hello.

Kindest regards

Jody Gibson


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Musicman
Date: 29 Apr 01 - 02:11 PM

Mrrzy,

that sucks that you won't make it up here... even just to see the city for a day...

keep trying though........

let me know closer to the date.. pm or something...... i'll see what i can do about coming down to say hi...

musicman


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Lyrical Lady
Date: 30 Apr 01 - 02:00 AM

Let me know if you'll have extra room Paul .... I'll be ready for a trip off the rock and meeting some other 'Catters" would be be fun too!...LL


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Mrrzy
Date: 05 Jun 01 - 10:33 AM

MUSICMAN et al, I AM COMING TO VANCOUVER AFTER ALL. Probably Mon or Tues, Aug 20-21. I'm looking for a B&B on one of the islands...

Amergin, dates are also firming up for my visit to Portland and its outskirts... I'm looking now at Weds or Thurs, Aug 23 or 24.... and there, I'm looking for a motel. Let's not be too fancy, or I'll get spoiled. I'm already predreading having to come back!


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Musicman
Date: 06 Jun 01 - 07:18 PM

Mrzzy.. connect with Lyrical lady, re: the b&b thing.. she lives on the islands.... if you can make it up for the 18th in vancouver .. . we might be playing on one of the islands for their summer fair.......

whatever.. keep us posted....

musicman


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Amergin
Date: 07 Jun 01 - 12:47 AM

well, in that case, Mrrzy, we could set you up in a flop house....well, maybe not....ok, I'll have a look around for ya! and what is that predreading having to come back stuff? what is there to dread about the west coast?


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Lyrical Lady
Date: 07 Jun 01 - 02:22 AM

Mrzzy ... pm me your address and I'll send you some info re: b&bs, hotels, cottages etc. in the Gulf Islands or go to www.gulfislands.com and you'll find lots of places advertised. Good luck with your plans.

LL


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Mrrzy
Date: 08 Jun 01 - 12:50 PM

No no, I'm not predreading coming back to the West Coast, although since I've never been to Oregon or Washington it wouldn't technically be back.. I meant I wasn't looking forward to coming back here, from this vacation! And I'll pm lyrical lady, thanks!


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Mrrzy
Date: 09 Jun 01 - 08:43 PM

OK, voici itinerary: Fri 17th arrive Seattle lunchtime, Sa seattle, Su seattle, Mon Vancouver, Tues Vancouver, weds Seattle, Thurs Portland, Fri Seattle (I'd stay in Portland if it weren't for the fact that it's the friend in Seattle who's bought the plane tickets), Sat Seattle, Sun 26th fly back to Virginia. What'chall up to those days?


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Amergin
Date: 10 Jun 01 - 03:34 PM

well let me see.....don't know yet...my sabbatical ends on August 31st.....so I am able to do whatever!


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Mrrzy
Date: 10 Jun 01 - 04:58 PM

YAY! I know coming midweek isn't the best way, but it's the way I have...


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Mrrzy
Date: 29 Jun 01 - 01:21 AM

Hey Wesley S, did you go, and how was it?

Also, I'm rereading this, making more definite plans, AND HOW DID I MISS THE IDEA OF A CENTRAL GET TOGETHER???? Do let's! I'm such a fool!


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Mrrzy
Date: 29 Jun 01 - 01:31 AM

OK, I'm repeating a little here:

voici itinerary: Fri 17th arrive Seattle lunchtime, Sa seattle, Su seattle, Mon Vancouver, Tues Vancouver, weds Seattle, Thurs Portland, Fri Seattle (I'd stay in Portland if it weren't for the fact that it's the friend in Seattle who's bought the plane tickets), Sat Seattle, Sun 26th fly back to Virginia.

How about that bolded Weds for the concept of central get-together? I know a lot of you won't be on vacation, but maybe with enough lead time...? Otherwise, the best weekend night would be Fri the 24th, I think, the Fri before I go back. This is gonna be fun. I've gotten some touristy info, and am making charts with your suggestions... not planning, just becoming aware of my options. I want to know what I'll be missing, too!


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Amergin
Date: 29 Jun 01 - 01:42 AM

Sounds great to me, Mrrzy!


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Mrrzy
Date: 29 Jun 01 - 12:30 PM

JenEllen says she might get a day off... this is looking good!


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: JenEllen
Date: 29 Jun 01 - 12:33 PM

LOL...I'll DEFINATELY get a day off, just you let me know then whens and wheres to be, okay? Are we all meeting mid-state or am I gonna have to (gasp) brave Seattle? *bg*

~Jen


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Amergin
Date: 29 Jun 01 - 02:14 PM

Ah, Jen, if I can brave Seattle....you can surely do the same....it doesn't matter where we meet to me...as I'll be probably be following you (mrrzy), anyways...damn i am excited...


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: John P
Date: 29 Jun 01 - 02:14 PM

Wesley was here, he came by Dusty Strings and introduced himself and we had a nice chat. It's good meeting people in the flesh that I've only known on line. Keep us posted about where the get-together is and I'll come if Telynor doesn't have a gig. And stop by Dusty Strings while you're in town and say hi.

John


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Mrrzy
Date: 29 Jun 01 - 02:46 PM

Well, Seattle is central for ME... just because I'm going to Portland doesn't mean you can't come up to Seattle too, Amergin! Same about Vancouver and musicman/Lyrical lady/whoever else...

And John, yes, you're on my list already. If I get anywhere on that list, Dusty Strings will be It...


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: rangeroger
Date: 30 Jun 01 - 12:00 AM

Well, as you firming your schedule, I could see it coming. I have to be in Sonora,Ca.,sometime the week of the 20th. I will be at Camp Mather, Yosemite, the weekend of the 24th.Pre-festival set-up for Strawberry Music Festival. I'll be thinking of everybody if I get a chance to ask Arlo if he is Guest,ADG.

Im going to try to get together with JenEllen as I drive through the Tri-cities (Richland, Kennewick, Pasco,Hanford etc.) but that hasn,t been firmed up.

I will stay up with this thread and PM's for there's always the chanse of connection.

rr


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Mrrzy
Date: 02 Jul 01 - 11:08 AM

Then again, my tickets are on USAir... Check this out, yikes!


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Mrrzy
Date: 03 Jul 01 - 05:45 PM

OK, here's the next question: Where is Lost Island, somewhere off/on Lake Sacajewea? Any of you Washingtonians know, offhand, how long it would take to get there from Seattle?


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Mrrzy
Date: 04 Jul 01 - 11:39 PM

And the next question: Anybody in the Portland area can review the River's Edge Bed and Breakfast? I think it's in St. Helens, actually, Amergin!


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Amergin
Date: 05 Jul 01 - 12:43 AM

Mrrzy, I went looking about that Lost Island thing...but could not find anything related to it...

Couldn't find a River's Edge Bed and Breakfast....though....there are bed and breakfast's in Scappoose which is just a few miles from St. Helens...and just about 15-20 miles from Portland....Or if you want to stay in the center of things...there is Portland itself....I know I'm not much help...


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: JenEllen
Date: 05 Jul 01 - 03:24 PM

Was this what you were looking for?

LOST ISLAND
LAKE SACAJAWEA

They are over on OUR side of the state *bg* With kids and summer driving, I'd say roughly 3-4 hours from Tri-Cities to Seattle. I have no idea about the bed'n'breakfast thing, but a really great book to look up is called 'The Best Places to Kiss in the Northwest'...I KNOW, sounds schmaltzy, but they have the listings for some of the nicest places in the NW, categorized for you. If you can get a good smooch out of it, well that's just a bonus!

luv,
~Jen


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Mrrzy
Date: 05 Jul 01 - 04:44 PM

Boogers. Started an answer, hit the link and then Back to finish my note and my note wasn't there any more.

Yes, that's the right Lost Island, and if anything besides that Big Grinning JenEllen were going to tempt me over thataway, that would be it. Hmmm. I'm'a gonna have to think about it (rubbing hands together gleefully)

But even if I can't make it over that far East, some NWMudcatters are coming over towards the West, yes?


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: JenEllen
Date: 05 Jul 01 - 04:58 PM

Another must-see for August that is a little more on your route is Ape Caves. If you take the southern route to StHelens, I think it's the 503, and go through a town called Cougar, you'll see the signs. The caves are actually lava tubes from pre-historic volcanic activity. The good part is that it's a beautiful hike to get to the caves, and once you get inside, it's chilly.

Of COURSE this east-sider is going to go west for you, so you just do what you want to and have FUN.

~JE


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Amergin
Date: 05 Jul 01 - 05:36 PM

yes, the the caves are a blast...


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Mrrzy
Date: 05 Jul 01 - 09:38 PM

Hmm, caves, will have to see how my claustrophobia is doing. It has its moments, shall we say. YAY, JenEllen! We'll just have to see whom else we can scrape up along the way...


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Amergin
Date: 05 Jul 01 - 09:52 PM

Well, Mrrzy, if you don't make it to them....there is always next time you come out west....but then, they might not be the best thing for some one who's claustrophobic....

Last time I was there I hid behind a rock and jumped out screaming when my family came along....

a couple of them had to use the head shortly afterwards....


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Subject: RE: Music and Tourism - Pacific Northwest
From: Musicman
Date: 16 Aug 01 - 08:16 AM

mrrzy.. email me please with your plans so we can connect when you arrive....

musicman...

pevenden@home.com


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