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Lyr Req: Peter Kagan and the Wind

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Subject: Peter Kagan and the Wind
From: GUEST,Tom in Melbourne(Australia)
Date: 10 Feb 01 - 02:24 PM

Liam Clancy and tommy Makem released a live vinyl double album in the early '80's. It featured a long track called 'Peter Kagan and the Wind' which was brilliant. The CD version does not have that track. Does anyone know where I can get a recorded version or the lyrics.

they performed it live in Melbourne and the was stunned. This has been a long search.

Tom


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Subject: RE: Peter Kagan and the Wind
From: karen k
Date: 10 Feb 01 - 02:38 PM

Peter Kagan and the Wind is by Gordon Bok and was recorded by Folk-Legacy Records, FSI-44, 1972. There is a booklet which accompanies the recording. Contact Sandy Paton by personal message or go to the Folk-Legacy website: folklegacy@snet.net

Sorry, can't remember how to do the blue clicky thing.

Peter Kagan is one of my favorites.


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Subject: RE: PETER KAGAN AND THE WIND (Gordon Bok)
From: Amergin
Date: 10 Feb 01 - 02:50 PM

PETER KAGAN AND THE WIND
(© Copyright 1977 Gordon Bok)

Peter Kagan was a lonely man in the summer of his years. One day he got tired of being lonely, and he went away, off to the east. And when he came again, he had a wife. She was strange, but she was kind and people liked her. She was good for Kagan. She kept him company and winter come to summer they were happy.

Kagan had a dory then, with a lugsail on her mast. He used to go offshore three, maybe four, days at a time setting out for the fish. Oh his wife was sad then. She didn't like to see him go. She'd go down to the sea sometimes and call to him:

Kagan, Kagan, Kagan,
Bring the dory home.
Wind and sea do follow thee,
And all the ledges calling thee.

He said he could hear her calling twenty miles to sea, and when he heard he, he would come home, whether he had fish or none.

She was a seal, of course; everybody knew it. Even Kagan. He knew that, but no one said anything to him.

Then, one day, in that year's autumn, Kagan said "I've got to go now. Go offshore and get some fish." But his wife said "No! Please don't go!" She started crying. "The winds are coming and the snows are coming."

Kagan, Kagan, Kagan,
Don't go out to sea,
Stormy winds and snows do come,
And, oh, but I do fear for thee.

But Kagan wasn't afraid of snow, and it was early in the year. So Kagan put in his oars and went out to sea. Kagan sailed in the middle ground. The Wind was west all day and the fish were coming to him. Kagan read the writing on the water and in the sky. He saw haze very high up above the clouds and said "That's all right for autumn -- only a change of wind. I'm not afraid of wind."

But Kagan read it wrong, this time. The Wind went away, and then it came back, Southeast. And the fog came round.

Kagan said, "I've got to go now. I'll find that gong buoy off the sunken ledges and then I'll know the best way home." So Kagan put up a sail and bore away to the Nor'ard for the gong.

But, oh, the Wind was watching.

The Wind backed around to the East'ard and came breezing on, against him. He sailed for a long time. The sail was pulling very hard. Finally, the Wind was so strong that the sail tore out, so Kagan took it down and the dory went drifting.

He thought he could hear that gong buoy. It wasn't very far away.

Kagan, Kagan, Kagan,
Bring the dory home.
Wind and sea do follow thee,
And all the ledges calling thee.

But the dory went drifting, and by and by, the gong buoy went away. Kagan said, "All right then." He put in his oars and started to row back up for the gong.

But, oh, the Wind was watching. The Wind back around Northeast, making the seas confused. The Wind said, "Listen! I have something to tell you."

Kagan, rowing, "I don't want to hear it."

The Wind humps up then, making the sea short, making it hard for Kagan to row. Finally, the seas are so steep that Kagan knows he isn't getting anywhere. So Kagan takes in the oars and again the dory goes drifting...

Kagan said, "All right then. Now I've got something to show you." He took a slip of wood for a needle and waxed up a hand line for a thread and he sewed the sail up smaller -- sewed a reef in it.

The Wind said, "What're you doing?"

Kagan said, "You keeping watching."

So Kagan put up a sail and again he bore away to the Nor'ard for the gong.

But, oh, the Wind was watching.

The Wind backed around North-Nor'east. Kagan can't hold his course now. Kagan said, "All right then." He brought the boat about. Now he's steering East'ard.

"You're heading out to sea."

"I'm not afraid of water. I'll bring this boat about when I can fetch that gong buoy."

"I'll veer on you; I'll go east."

"You do that and I can hold my course."

"I'll back on you."

"You back too far and you've got a clear. You know that. I can keep ahead of you."

"You may be smarter but I'm stronger." The Wind grew bigger then and the Wind blew harder. Finally, the wind was so strong that the Sail said, "I can't make it, Kagan!" And Kagan said, "I know that. Thank you."

So Kagan took down the sail, and the dory went drifting.

Kagan took the sail off the yard and put it about him. "Sail, keep me warm!"

"The sail can't keep you warm."

The Wind snatched off North by East. "I'll freeze you."

"I'm not afraid of cold!"

But Kagan was afraid. He didn't know what to do. And oh, the Wind is working now. The Wind brings ice and snow. The Wind blows long and long and black.

Kagan says, "I'm dying. Sail, keep me warm!" and the sail said, "I can't do it Kagan."

Kagan dying, and the wind blowing.

Kagan, Kagan, Kagan,
Turn ye now to me.
Turn your back unto the Wind
And all the weary windy sea.
Kagan, Kagan, Kagan,
Lay ye down to sleep.
For I do come to comfort thee
All and thy dear body keep.

So Kagan lay on the bottom of the boat, and he tried not to be afraid of the dying, and he dreamed of her then, his wife. He dreamed she was coming to him, and he heard a long calling down the wind and he raised himself up, and he saw her. Down the smoking, storming sea she came. Over the rail of the dory she came, laughing to his arms.

And all in the night and in the storm they did lay, and the Wind went away, and the storm went away, and in the morning, they found him...

...asleep, with a sail wrapped around him. And there was a seal, lying there with him, curled over him like a blanket, and the snow was upon the seal's back.

Kagan, Kagan, Kagan,
Bring the dory home.
Wind and sea do follow thee,
And all the ledges calling thee.


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Subject: RE: Peter Kagan and the Wind
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 10 Feb 01 - 03:16 PM

Gordon Bok's recording of his song may be found at:

Gordon Bok CDs at Folk Legacy
Gordon Bok Cassettes at Folk Legacy

Tommy Makem's recording is available on CD:  Ancient Pulsing: Poetry with Music (Red Biddy Records 3001)

Malcolm


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Subject: RE: Peter Kagan and the Wind
From: karen k
Date: 10 Feb 01 - 04:14 PM

Ooooooooops!!!!! Thanks, Malcolm for fixing my mistake. I listed the e-mail address instead of the website.


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Subject: RE: Peter Kagan and the Wind
From: Don Firth
Date: 10 Feb 01 - 07:13 PM

Hi, Tom in Melbourne --

Liam Clancy and Tommy Makem are great, and I am a real fan of theirs (saw them live here in Seattle some years back and it was a terrific concert). But with the highest regard for them and with all due respect, you haven't really heard Peter Kagan and the Wind until you've heard it done by Gordon Bok. I think even Liam Clancy and Tommy Makem would agree.

Once you hear Gordon's record, I think you'll see what I mean. Gordon has done several "cante-fables" like this, and although I like Peter Kagan and the Wind the best, they're all spellbinding.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: Peter Kagan and the Wind
From: GUEST,kendall
Date: 11 Feb 01 - 05:25 PM

Ditto Don


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Subject: RE: Peter Kagan and the Wind
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 11 Feb 01 - 09:08 PM

I suppose I have every right to be prejudiced here, since I recorded Gordon doing his masterful "Peter Kagan," but I've heard Liam and Tommy's recording of it, and I do agree with Don and Kendall. Gordon's performance is on his compilation CD-1005, North Wind's Clearing, along with many of his other songs relating to the Maine coast and the sea. You'll find that CD listed on our web site -- FOLK-LEGACY.

Sandy


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Subject: RE: Peter Kagan and the Wind
From: BRG
Date: 09 Mar 01 - 06:26 PM

I have to heartily agree. Gordon Bok's recording of 'Peter Kagan and the Wind' is a real gem (all those things happening on the guitar) and his music has been a great joy and inspiration for me.

I'm a displaced Maine fellow who has been busy pulling together a Gordon Bok concert for our little town (Valdez, Alaska) and weather permitting, he'll be here for a workshop and performance on May 5th. So, if anyone happens to be in the neighborhood...

Bruce


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Subject: RE: Peter Kagan and the Wind
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 09 Mar 01 - 10:43 PM

BRG, I saw Gordon's concert schedule and thought, hmmm, I can understand why he'd be in Anchorage and Homer, but...Valdez??? Now I know why. Good work. I hope it's wonderful. Hey, maybe I can get him to come to Hawaii...

Aloha,
Mark

(With full acknowledgement and support of Folk-Legacy, I'll also give the link to Gordon's website, Timberhead Music.)


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Subject: RE: Peter Kagan and the Wind
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 09 Mar 01 - 11:03 PM

Hawaii? Just ask him! But let him bring Carol with him.

Sandy


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Subject: RE: Peter Kagan and the Wind
From: Hollowfox
Date: 10 Mar 01 - 12:32 PM

While I agree with you folks that Gordon's is the best, let's not forget that, if nobody else performs something, if it doesn't get passed around and passed on, it won't last. One thing that's brought me much joy in the past few years is to know that performers (Tom Weakley and Jim May; two different acts) are finally performing the works done by the late Marshall Dodge. This is stuff too good to lose, as is Peter Kagan.


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Subject: RE: Peter Kagan and the Wind
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 10 Mar 01 - 07:17 PM

Just ask him. Now why didn't I think of that? Of course, Sandy, I wouldn't think of inviting Gordon without Carol. I'll send him a letter posthaste. Then I can have fun finding venues...or finding someone who can. P.S., any 'Catters are welcome, too. But I'm selling my big house and moving into town, so the big song circle under the macadamia nut trees may have to be downsized a bit.

Aloha,
Mark, thread creeper


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Subject: RE: Peter Kagan and the Wind
From: murray@mpce.mq.edu.au
Date: 11 Mar 01 - 01:03 AM

If he comes to Hawaii, he is on the way to Sydney! Why not come here too?

I have not heard the Clancy/Makem version of Kagan, but given its form, I find it hard to imagine anyone but Gordon Bok doing it.

Murray


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Subject: RE: Peter Kagan and the Wind
From: Don Firth
Date: 11 Mar 01 - 12:45 PM

I do agree with Hollowfox. I personally don't have the guts to try Peter Kagan and the Wind, but I've been stealing wholesale from Gordon Bok's records for years now. The Herring Croon, Mr. Eneos, Cap Ann, The Brandy Tree, many others. . . . Great stuff!

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: Peter Kagan and the Wind
From: BRG
Date: 12 Mar 01 - 02:54 PM

Thanks, Mark. This is my first effort at a concert - much work but well worth it. And Selkie, Gordon's business manager, has been great.

And like Don, I've been a Bok thief for years. When Selkie wrote that Gordon would like to do an east coast for west coast song swap with us, it got me sweating a bit. (You see, usually in a situation like that I would try and impress people with a Gordon Bok song!)

Great to have found this site - best to all.

Bruce


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Subject: RE: Peter Kagan and the Wind
From: Jacob B
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 11:16 AM

Gordon's business manager is a Selkie?

That explains a lot.

Any relation to Peter Kagan's wife?


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Subject: RE: Peter Kagan and the Wind
From: GUEST,Blind Lem
Date: 20 Mar 01 - 11:11 AM

I have a copy of Clancy and Makem performing this strange tune live, I guess Because I bought the Cassette rather than Disc very eerie cool little #.Check the Yazoo Catalog.


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Subject: RE: Peter Kagan and the Wind
From: GUEST,Blind Lem
Date: 20 Mar 01 - 11:13 AM

I should clarify check the Shanachie catolog, Yazoo catolog has all Shanachie releases in it though.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Peter Kagan and the Wind
From: SINSULL
Date: 27 Jul 07 - 12:21 AM

While doing a search on the Great Selkie, this popped up.
There is some mention here of Tommy Makem. Thought it might be of interest.

My one accomplishment in writing folk music was a parody of Peter Kagan and the Wind which I gave to Kendall Morse as a gift (Captain Kendall and the Kitchen was the title).

Kendall showed it to Gordon and Gordon performed it to a very amused audience. Amazing - Peter Kagan is such a brilliant piece of music and poetry, I was afraid he would be offended by a parody. I wonder if it needs a copyright?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Peter Kagan and the Wind
From: Dan Schatz
Date: 27 Jul 07 - 12:52 AM

I was there, Mary. He had a tough time not cracking up.

Dan Schatz


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Peter Kagan and the Wind
From: jacqui.c
Date: 27 Jul 07 - 06:53 AM

He was very impressed by your parody Mary - as were we all. I wish that you could have been there. I only wish that I had heard the original first - it was a while before I could hear it without thinking of the parody.

Jim Brannigan has done a very credible version of Peter Kagan - his Scottish brogue works well with this piece.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Peter Kagan and the Wind
From: kendall
Date: 27 Jul 07 - 07:12 AM

I've heard others do Kagan, and done well too, but no one can do the guitar work that Gordon does. That huge Apollo 12 string tuned down to "C" is perfoct for this piece. When he hits that lowest note, it's like the crack of doom.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Peter Kagan and the Wind
From: GUEST,Nancy King at work
Date: 27 Jul 07 - 12:59 PM

Mary's parody is hilarious, and hearing it read by Gordon himself, in that wonderful sonorous voice, was truly amazing. And he DID crack up! He was standing right behind me while reading it, and at one point said to me between giggles, "I hope I'm not drooling on you..." The very notion of Gordon Bok drooling boggles the mind.

Of course, like any parody, a familiarity with the original makes all the difference. What a riot -- "Kendall, Kendall, Kendall...."

Still snickering,
Nancy


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Peter Kagan and the Wind
From: Don Firth
Date: 27 Jul 07 - 02:31 PM

Jeez, folks, I writhing with curiosity!!

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Peter Kagan and the Wind
From: Nancy King
Date: 27 Jul 07 - 06:15 PM

Well, Don, I think this falls into the category of "Ya hadda be there." You could always ask Mary for a copy, but it probably wouldn't work as well in print.

Perhaps it's time we shut up about the parody. This thread was supposed to be about the original.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Peter Kagan and the Wind
From: Canberra Chris
Date: 28 Jul 07 - 12:13 AM

In Canberra we have a fine story-teller called Brian Hungerford, whose Kagan and the Wind is the only version I have heard, and who does it spell-bindingly, with Uillean pipe accompaniment.

Chris


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Peter Kagan and the Wind
From: Canberra Chris
Date: 28 Jul 07 - 12:31 AM

Now I recollect, not Uillean pipes, but small pipes I think. Before anyone else who has seen him corrects me!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Peter Kagan and the Wind
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 28 Jul 07 - 02:07 AM

eerie pipes - or is it just eerie music?

sandra (correcting Chris!)

Brian was talking about putting out a CD when I last saw him some years back, but doesn't seem to have done so. He has made his living for decades telling stories & teaching storytelling around the world for international agencies.


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