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Lyr Req: Cor Bugger Janner

Hawker 15 Feb 01 - 06:35 PM
sledge 16 Feb 01 - 03:14 AM
wes.w 16 Feb 01 - 09:37 AM
Dave (the ancient mariner) 16 Feb 01 - 09:55 AM
Hawker 16 Feb 01 - 02:59 PM
sledge 16 Feb 01 - 03:39 PM
Hawker 16 Feb 01 - 09:34 PM
GUEST,KLernow Jon 17 Feb 01 - 05:00 AM
RoyH (Burl) 17 Feb 01 - 04:25 PM
RoyH (Burl) 17 Feb 01 - 04:27 PM
Hawker 17 Feb 01 - 07:44 PM
Les B 18 Feb 01 - 12:57 AM
GUEST,Kernow Jon 18 Feb 01 - 04:20 AM
GUEST,dave 28 Jul 11 - 02:03 PM
Little Robyn 28 Jul 11 - 05:11 PM
Gurney 28 Jul 11 - 09:46 PM
RoyH (Burl) 29 Jul 11 - 10:41 AM
GUEST 13 Jun 12 - 04:46 PM
autoharpbob 13 Jun 12 - 04:56 PM
GUEST,A Blackcountry Janner 23 Jan 14 - 10:35 AM
Lighter 23 Jan 14 - 11:23 AM
RoyH (Burl) 23 Jan 14 - 04:41 PM
bubblyrat 23 Jan 14 - 05:37 PM
GUEST,Dave Lock 24 Jan 14 - 06:46 AM
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Subject: Cor Bugger Janner
From: Hawker
Date: 15 Feb 01 - 06:35 PM

Hi Mudcatters, I Have the words to a Cornish / Westcountry song 'Cor / Gor bugger Janner / Jacker' taken from a recording by Ian Marshall, I don't think it is an OLD song, first heard round the 60's? but the version we have is missing a verse that we recall as having a mention of Plymouth Hoe in.... anybody out there can help? Lucy


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cor Bugger Janner
From: sledge
Date: 16 Feb 01 - 03:14 AM

Lucy, could you let us know what you have so far, the only related stuff I know is somewhat vulgar, but then again thats probably because I spent a bit of time in the Navy.

Sledge


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cor Bugger Janner
From: wes.w
Date: 16 Feb 01 - 09:37 AM

Gor Bugger Jacker heard up this way (zummerzet). But don't remember no Hoe, although Oggies on Trees chorass got to be Kernow song originally 'sno. John the Fish/Brenda Wootton rings vague bells, but will check my Wurzels collection!
..wes


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cor Bugger Janner
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 16 Feb 01 - 09:55 AM

The Oggie song by Cyril Tawney... He says Jagger I sing Jenner westcountry slang... have'nt heard it sung fer years. There are many extemporised verses to this song, most of Royal Navy origin. Yours, Aye. Dave


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Subject: Lyr Add: GOR BUGGER JACKER
From: Hawker
Date: 16 Feb 01 - 02:59 PM

What I have got so far.......

Where be 'e gwain Jacker, I be gwain to Looe
Gor bugger Jacker I be gwain there too
Oh how happy we will be when us gets to the Westcountry
Where the oggy grows on tree Gor bugger Jacker

Up the Camborne hill we go, down Helston Furry
Come on Jacker don't be late, come on Jacker hurry
Oh how happy us will be when us gets to the Westcountry
Where the oggy grows on trees, Gor bugger Jacker

Half a pound of tuppeny rice makes a lovely batter
Makes enough for you & me Gor bugger Jacker
Oh how happy etc.

You make fast, I'll make fast, Make fast together
You make fast, Kiss my arse, Gor bugger Jacker
Oh how happy etc.

Any more verses anybody?

Thanks, Lucy


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cor Bugger Janner
From: sledge
Date: 16 Feb 01 - 03:39 PM

OK her goes, once this lots laid down, those who wish to crucify me please do so after march as I am seeing a few gigs then, even better if you could wait until after the Croredy festival in August.

Verse 1. There once was lad called Aladdin who had a magic lamp
He got it of a matelot who was fathoms up a tramp
He got it off a Matelot to see what he could get
Well he rubbed and he rubbed and he rubbed and he rubbed
And he ain't got F@*k all yet.

Verse 2. The Sultan said to Aladdin, "My palace you will paint"
Aladdin like a big OD said, "No I f@%$#£g ain't"
He went down to the paint store and drew some black enamel
And he stuffed it up the A%$£&*@e of the Sultan's favorite camel


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cor Bugger Janner
From: Hawker
Date: 16 Feb 01 - 09:34 PM

HHhhmmmmm!!!

ANYMORE?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cor Bugger Janner
From: GUEST,KLernow Jon
Date: 17 Feb 01 - 05:00 AM

Lucy
Do you have the ending like this in your version?
And we'll all go back to Oggie land to Oggie land
And we'll all go back to Oggie land
Where they don't know sugar from tissue paper,tissue paper
Marmalade and jam.

I can post a tune later if anyone is interested.
KJ


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cor Bugger Janner
From: RoyH (Burl)
Date: 17 Feb 01 - 04:25 PM

Hey Kernow Jon - thats the way my mother used to singing it. Cyril Tawney knows those words too. 'You make fast, I'll make fast, make fast the dinghy'. Yes? Burl.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cor Bugger Janner
From: RoyH (Burl)
Date: 17 Feb 01 - 04:27 PM

I forgot - mum always sang 'Jagger' She (and friends) would sing the 'Kiss my Arse' bit when they thought I couldnt hear. Burl


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cor Bugger Janner
From: Hawker
Date: 17 Feb 01 - 07:44 PM

Hi, Kernow John, Yes, sorry, we do finish it like that, I was focussing on the verses! Lucy


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cor Bugger Janner
From: Les B
Date: 18 Feb 01 - 12:57 AM

For those of us in the colonies, who have lost the old country language, could you translate a bit of this song ? (I do understand "Kiss My Arse," thank you very much.)


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Subject: Tune Add: COR BUGGER JACKA
From: GUEST,Kernow Jon
Date: 18 Feb 01 - 04:20 AM

Here's a tune to Cor Bugger.
T:COR BUGGER JACKA
M:4/4
L:1/4
Q:90
K:C
EEE/D/-D|E/G/-G3|EEED|C4|E2E/D/-D|E/G/-G3|EEED|C4||
ccccG|AAG2|cccG/G/|AAG2|c3/2c/c/G3/2|AAG2|
E2E/D/-D|D/C/2-C3:||"Ending"GG|A2c2|B2A2|AGG2-|
G2E2|GFF2-|F2D2FEE2-|E2GG|A2c2|B2A2|AGG2-|
G2EF|G2F2|E/E3/2D2|CEEE|CEEE|G3/2F/ED|Cz2z||

% ABC2Win Version 2.1 18/02/2001

You have to juggle the melody a bit to make it fit all the verses.
KJ


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cor Bugger Janner
From: GUEST,dave
Date: 28 Jul 11 - 02:03 PM

janner= devonshire where pasties really come from.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cor Bugger Janner
From: Little Robyn
Date: 28 Jul 11 - 05:11 PM

Cornish Pasties come from Devon???
Next you'll be claiming Cornish clotted cream!
Oggie, oggie, oggie!
Robyn


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cor Bugger Janner
From: Gurney
Date: 28 Jul 11 - 09:46 PM

I always heard it sung as 'Cor bugger, Jagger,' and 'Up to Cambourne hill us'll go.' Mostly in roaring accompaniment to Cyril.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cor Bugger Janner
From: RoyH (Burl)
Date: 29 Jul 11 - 10:41 AM

This thread reminds me just how much we miss Cyril.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cor Bugger Janner
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Jun 12 - 04:46 PM


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cor Bugger Janner
From: autoharpbob
Date: 13 Jun 12 - 04:56 PM

I always knew it as Jagger and according to my father it was compulsory to sing this song whenever you cross the border into Devon. I tend to whistle it if accompanied.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cor Bugger Janner
From: GUEST,A Blackcountry Janner
Date: 23 Jan 14 - 10:35 AM

Half a pound of flour and lard Makes lovely clacker.
Just enough for you and me, Gor bugger Janner.
Oh how happy us will be, When us gets to the West country,
Where the Oggies grow on trees.
Gor bugger Janner.
You make fast, I'll make fast, Make fast the lugger.
You make fast, I'll make fast, You silly bugger.
And we'll all go back to Oggie Land, to Oggie Land, to Oggie Land
And we'll all go back to Oggie Land, where they can't tell
Sugar from tissue paper, tissue paper, marmalade or Jam.
Oggie! Oggie! Oggie! - Oi! Oi! Oi! (Sung twice)
Oggie! - Oi! (Sung Twice)
Oggie! Oggie! Oggie! - Oi! Oi! Oi!
(P.S. Taffy the thief stole our cry from us).


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cor Bugger Janner
From: Lighter
Date: 23 Jan 14 - 11:23 AM

Who writes this stuff?

And why isn't it taught in the schools?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cor Bugger Janner
From: RoyH (Burl)
Date: 23 Jan 14 - 04:41 PM

Reading this thread once again reminds me even more of what I said on 29 July 2011. God bless you Cyril, and Rosemary too.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cor Bugger Janner
From: bubblyrat
Date: 23 Jan 14 - 05:37 PM

In the Fleet Air Arm we always tended to combine the song with "I know where that blackbird be , and I be after 'e " as they seemed to go together rather well , whilst the "Oggie! Oggie! Oggie! " etc , was the cry of the supporters of the Fleet Air Arm field gun crew .As to Jagger or Janner , I always say "Cor ! Bugger I , Jagger , " if I meet Gideon (if'n you know who I mean , Lucy !!) .


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cor Bugger Janner
From: GUEST,Dave Lock
Date: 24 Jan 14 - 06:46 AM

I remember a band from Torquay doing this . There's a verse which goes:
Be I Devonshire? Be I buggery! I comes down from Fairham
Where all the whores wear callico draws, and I knows how to tear 'em!

This goes directly before "And we'll all go back to oggie land" etc.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cor Bugger Janner
From: bubblyrat
Date: 25 Jan 14 - 05:50 AM

No it's not , it's "Be I 'Ampshire, be I buggery , I comes up from Wareham !" .......So there !!


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