Mudcat Site Map, PermaThread Index, Memorabilia

Subject: Mudcat Site Map and PermaThread Index
From: Joe Offer
Date: 17 Feb 01 - 04:44 PM

This is a PermaThread™, intended to serve as an index to Mudcat and a permanent index for our PermaThreads™ and other memorable and notable threads. Feel free to post messages in this thread, but note that I reserve the right to edit or delete all messages here, so that this thread will serve as a permament reference.
-Joe Offer-

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The most recent full update of the Digital Tradition was 2002, and we have not been able to develop a system for updating the DT that was agreeable to all parties involved. I have been developing "origins" and DTStudy threads on new songs and all songs in the DT that require research, discussion, or correction. If you have corrections, they are best posted in the "origins" threads.

• Origins index (for trad songs): https://mudcat.org/songorigins.cfm
• Musicians index (by songwriter name): https://mudcat.org/songorigins.cfm

Mudcat Site Map Finding Your Way Around Music Forum Radio Personal Pages E-Muzine Blues Information Kids Shop & Auction Links Membership Technical Help Forum Home Music Forum Login Log Out Mudcat Radio Member Photos & Info Mudcat PalTalk Song Circles Áine's Mudcat Songbook Mudcat Storytellers' Page Alan's Mudcat Midi Page Messages Since Last Visit Send a Personal Message Forum Search Get Your Mudcat T-Shirt The Digital Tradition Folk Song Database About The Digitrad Digitrad Search Tips Download Your Own Copy Browse By Keywords Browse By Title Contact Us FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) Searching Mudcat Basic HTML Membership, Registration, and Cookies Rules of Conduct Posting Lyrics Mudcat Auction FAQ

Table by Jeri & Joe, with help from Pene Azul
Revised 11 Nov 2011

Subject: RE: Mudcat Site Map and PermaThread Index
From: Joe Offer
Date: 01 Mar 01 - 04:59 AM

PermaThreads™

(threads maintained by various Mudcatters for use as permanent references)

Online Events - Current Listings Reference In Memoriam - Mudcatters and musicians Happy! happy? Happy! - the "Happy" threads, by Abby Sale Attribution added: DT authors PermaThread - correct Digital Tradition songwriter attributions here Dead Links - for correction of dead or incorrect links from our Links Section only Glossary of Scottish Words - Easy-open index Lancashire Glossary Help for Pickers Instruments Michigan Musically Revisited Aine's Mudcat Songbook Permathread Mudcat Song Challenge 2.0 Index Piano Accordion for The Recycled Muso (you expected a more ordinary name for an accordion PermaThread??) Folk Musician and Songwriter Links What's On? - Bert's guide to concerts and folk music happenings. Song Circle Locations (revised & updated) Who is Touring Where/When Venues for Folk Performers Folk Festivals Mudcatter CD's - many Mudcatters have recordings available Mudcatter Music Online - many Mudcatters have free recordings online A list of live performances in the Mudcat Hearme Concert Room Mudcatter Photo Albums List of all joke threads Dictionary of Online Acronyms (the meaning of ROTFLMAO, etc.) Mudcat HTML Guide Tech Hints - solutions to technical problems with Mudcat, Computers, and the Internet Mudcat ABC Tune Guide Mudcat MIDI guide Getting Mudcat MIDIs to Play Posting Lyrics and Posting Tunes Unanswered Requests - can you help find these songs? Mudcat Gatherings - index of past and future social gatherings of Mudcatters, all around the world. Folk Music Camps Research Projects Carter Family Songs: Summary of Sources C. Fox Smith Sea Poems John A. Stone Gold Rush Songsters ('Old Put') John Masefield-Songs from Poems Learning Songs: A Summary Los Pastores (Christmas folk play) Notre-Dame des Doms Provencal carols DTStudy Index - edited threads which explore the Digital Tradition Folk Song Database Where Are They Now? - Folk Musicians of the "olden days" (when Art Thieme and Sandy Paton were young) Songbook Indexing threads Sea Songs Index Song Origins A Basic Folk Library - Songbooks you ought to own African-American Spirituals Merchant Navy Songs Songs in English about the Spanish Civil War Fleetwood & Fishing: Songs of the Trawling Trade Folk Clubs & Venues: Upcoming Events (UK) SAMS! (Snodland Acoustic Music Sessions) UK (Fourth Tuesday, 8:30 PM) Bull Session (Barton-Le-Clay, Bedfordshire) Central London commuters' singaround Cheshire Folk Colindale Folk Club Crayside Folk Sessions, Kent Crayside Live, Sidcup, Kent Dunton Folk Epworth Folk Club Exmouth (UK) Area Events Folk & Acoustic Nights East Yorkshire Folk in Hull Gainsborough Folk Club Maidenhead Folk Club Orpington Friday Folk Owston Ferry Folk Padwell FolkMoot Seaford Folk Club South Portland (Maine) House Concerts Swinton Folk Club, Manchester, UK Tonbridge Folk Club, Kent Wath Folk Club What's On in Herts/Beds, UK Performers Artful Codger Debra Cowan Julie Ellison Jack Hudson Mary Humphreys and Anahata John Kelly Sarah McQuaid New Scorpion Band Tone Deaf Leopard Big Al Whittle (weelittledrummer) Et al. The Music Well (previously Radio Britfolk Radio Show) Cool as Folk Radio Show FolkRadio.co.uk Thank Goodness It's Folk - Radio Feral Folk Music in the UK The Folk Show on Radio Mumbles Charity CD's - music for sale for charity fundraising

Mudcat Auction FAQ

Revised 12 Jan 2013

Subject: RE: Mudcat Site Map and PermaThread Index
From: Joe Offer
Date: 15 Jul 01 - 12:16 AM

Pene Azul came across this message from Marion in on of the "Help For Pickers" threads. I think it deserves wider exposure.
-Joe Offer-

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Hello folks. I've very much appreciated the links to other tip threads that others have posted in part two, so I thought I'd gather in here some of the educational threads that have been particularly useful to me, or that I have traced in the expectation that they will be useful later.

They are roughly categorized; I couldn't decide if "Smartass titles" needed to be a category of its own.

Bon appetit, Marion

THEORY

• Music question: Improvisors?
• Predictable chord patterns
• Music theory/arrangement question
• Modes for Mudcatters: a synthesis primer
• Working out chords - through theory?
• Is Cm7sus a real chord?
• Tech talk: modes and scales again
• Weird chords
• Blues scale

  LEARNING AND PLAYING, MOSTLY GUITAR

• Questions about G, D, E7, and A7
• Rick's Picking Tips: Questions and Answers
• Another bad folkie needs advice
• Help: how to train one's ear
• What the F is going on at Mudcat?
• Could I play like Doc Watson? seriously
• Beginner guitar: G chord fingering
• Wanting to try some new positions
• Turn Mudcat around now
• Music sabbatical: what shall I do?
• Fingernails vs. fingerpicks
• Guitar fingerpicking fun
• Our friend the moveable B7 chord
• Nurds: other voicings, other chords
• Nurd talk: tricks in open tunings
• Where's your thumb?
• Capo; what are the rules?
• Progressions that make you go mmm
• Investing in traditional music- why?
• Help: leading group singing with guitar
• Playing by ear - advantage or disadvantage
• Electronic tuners - pro and con
• I love major seventh chords
• Mudcat seems to be diminished
• Fielding thinks he's so G.D. clever
• Eee! flat breads are delicious
• I need a break from 1, 4,5
• Music teaching tips, again
• Help: right hand/fingerstyle
• Beyond basic chords and picking technique
• Hold your pick correctly
• Does Mudcat seem to be flat right now?
• Dealing with difficult chord progression
• Best way to string a guitar
• Help: learning to fingerpick
• Towards better guitar tuning

  SOCIAL/PROFESSIONAL

• Booking folk gigs: some suggestions
• How do I do a sound check?
• To play what you like or what they want
• Starting a band: what a pain
• Weird open mike etiquette
• Picking playing partners
• Memorizing songs and performance quality
• Keep your day job kid!
• When should you be paid for performing?
• Jam etiquette
• Music: Your Day Job

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Lonesome EJ has volunteered to maintain the list below:

Mudcat Classic Threads

The following links will take you to prime examples of the musical knowledge, humor, and thoughtfulness to be found in the Forum of the Mudcat Cafe.
I had originally asked Rick for suggestions for a Classic Thread under the topic Technique and Instrument Discussions, which was why he started the Pickers Tips Thread. I had also planned a Traditional Music Discussions topic, but a lot of the ones I considered are already named in Alice's Memorable Threads. At any rate, I'll give you my picks at the risk of overlapping Rick and Alice. The individual threads may be changed from time to time, but the Topics should be ongoing.

• Traditional Music Discussions These are the threads where Mudcatters shine; free-form discussions of song lyrics, meanings and origins.
  snows they melt...author?
• Mudcat Mythology Tiples? Possums? The Neil Young Center for The Terminally Screwed? See where these odd Mudcat allusions and delusions began.
  Paw,Cletus,Buford and the Reg Boys
• Technique and Instrumental Threads The Mudcat Cafe is fortunate to count among its members some of the finest Folk and Blues performers around. Here they discuss the specifics of musicianship.
  What is Clawhammer Style
• Mudcat Humor Classics of the Absurd and the Goofy.
  The Day They Came for Mudcat
• Song Challenges Mudcatters display their creativity and songwriting abilities as they compete for Aine's trophies, such as the Guinness Crest.
  Willie-O's Song Challenge
• The First Thread Early voices in a thread that explains what it's really all about.
  The Mudcat Cafe
• Heated Debates Mudcatters are rarely shy about expressing their opinions. Here are great examples of the good-natured arguments often found on "the Cat."
  Guns, to my friends here at Mudcat
• Mudcat Fiction Round-robin literary works where the only requirement is imagination.
  TAVERN STEAMBOATIN'- The Albert Hansell
• The Thought for the Day Peter T and Katlaughing give us daily food for thought that often provoke surprising discussions.
  Thought for the Day-Jan 20
• The Heart of the Mudcat Real communication on a heart-to-heart level is not rare in the Forum. It is celebrated.
  Music Therapy

The master list is in a thread called Mudcat Classic Threads
-Lonesome EJ (updated 13 September 2000)-

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Alice's Memorable Mudcat Threads

Thanks also to Alice Flynn. For quite some time, Alice has maintained links to memorable Mudcat threads on our Mudcat Links Page:

• Origins of Carrickfergus
• Threads on the Meaning of Folk
• Threads on the Singing Voice
• Three-Chord Songs
• Where Is Spancil Hill?
• Why We Sing

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Please Note Important Message

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Thanks to Pene Azul, this thread has been added to the top of the thread list. I'm sure that many of you have favorite threads that you'd like everybody to be able to find. Feel free to post links to them here. I'll incorporate the most notable of them into a master list at the top of this thread.
I intend to keep this thread trimmed to a fairly small number of messages, so that it will load more easily than the FAQ.
-Joe Offer-

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Here are a few:

• Folk Music on the Radio
• Frequently Misspelled/Confused Names
• Songs You've Posted - an index of some of the songs posted at Mudcat.
• Origin of Sea Chanteys
• Distortion of History in Folk Song
• Cute Little Poems - awwwww....
• Music Annotation Software
• Links on Spirituals
• Analysis of Raglan Road
• Origins of: - background info on dozens of songs
• Naughty Kids' Greatest Hits and Nasty Nursery Rhymes
• What Was Lee Hays Really Like?
• Macs, Music, and MIDI
• Scared of Music theory? Faggggedaboudit!
• Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords
• Doing a Press Kit to promote a musician
• Help Me Find This Songbook (songbook addicts begging for help)
• Jerry Rasmussen's 'Black/White Gospel Workshop

Subject: RE: Mudcat Site Map and PermaThread Index
From: Pene Azul
Date: 15 Jul 01 - 12:34 AM

Why Keys?
What is a key, anyway?
The Key of R (giggle)*
Modes?
Help: Chord Theory/Questions
Music Theory Question
Theory questions that make me nuts--
Diminished chord???
Suspended chords

BS: Dear Dr. Folkenmusik

Chord Diagram Primer
guitar tab template
Capo. Cheat or godsend?
fret fret fret

I need help with drop D tuning
OPEN D TUNING
There's more to tunings than DADGAD
Twelve String Tuning

Some of the pickup threads:

Acoustic Pickup help...
Pickups for Acoustic Guitars
Acoustic Pickup
'Pick Up The World' Acoustic pickups.
pickup for archtop?
Piezo Pickups - For or Against
More Gear Talk - Internal Condenser Mics

Some collected by Mark Clark (also from Pickers II):

Figuring out alternate tunings
For Guitarists
Guitar Picks - What's your favourite?
Ragtime Guitar
Bluegrass G run
improvising folk, blues, jazz etc.
Musicians Little Secrets
Mystery of Django's Chords. oooooh!
TWELVE-STRING GUITARS
Harmonica Players Unite!
Help: Banjo Player Questions
Attn: Jews Harp Players

And more from Joe Offer and others:
I feel CAGED!
Do Your Nuts Require Surgery?

* Hey, somebody giggled my links!!! :^)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Site Map and PermaThread Index
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 21 Sep 01 - 09:28 AM

Yesterday I created PermaThread™: List of all joke threads.

There truly are a LOT of joke threads. Please have a look.

Subject: PalTalk and HearMe
From: Joe Offer
Date: 16 Oct 01 - 11:37 PM

Over the last few years, Mudcatters have used the HearMe and PalTalk services to gather for online concerts and song circles. Both these services are in a state of flux, so our procedures for singing sessions keep changing. Click here for a thread that should have the latest information on Mudcat online sings.
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: Mudcat Site Map and PermaThread Index
From:
Date: 26 Dec 01 - 09:17 AM

Suggestion for a future entry here. Listings of some of the threads on creating CDs or recording onto computers. We seem to have had a number of them (as far as I remember) over the past year. Here's one just came up recently, which Devilmaster answered with a series of messages. Looks good.

Recording on computer and making CDs

Subject: RE: Mudcat Site Map and PermaThread Index
From: Joe Offer
Date: 05 Feb 02 - 06:19 PM

Tom N posted this list of folk music resources on the unfortunate "Weakest Link" thread, which I hope will disappear. The list is too good to let disappear, so I'll post it here until I find a more suitable place for it.
-Joe Offer-

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http://www.tradsong.freeserve.co.uk/Indices.htm

fiddle databases:

http://www.iland.net/~bshull/NAFA/data_l.htm

excellent folk links page (esp Australian):

http://www.folk-sa.asn.au/FolkFederation/links.htm

Smithsonian's Rinzler Folklife Archive links page, exhaustive!:

http://www.folkways.si.edu/linkspag.htm

Celtic Circle's Song Lyric Link page:

http://www.social-dancing.com/lists/

British Song Fa La La: database & song literature 16th cent-present:

http://www.public.asu.edu/~icwwh/

Cantus: database for Latin Ecclesiastical Chant:

http://publish.uwo.ca/~cantus/

Medieval Music Database:

http://www.lib.latrobe.edu.au/Audio-Visual/Stinson/medmusic.htm

Women Song Composers Database Published in the United States and England, ca. 1890-1930:

http://musdra.ucdavis.edu/faculty/reynolds/Women_songs_home.html

Fasola, the Shape Note Singing page, includes links to tune collection info:

http://fasola.org/

Indiana University's Archive of African American Music & Culture:

http://www.indiana.edu/~aaamc/index.html

Guide to Copyright for Music Librarians:

http://www.musiclibraryassoc.org/Copyright/copyhome.htm

Redhot Jazz Archive, history of jazz pre-1930, w/database of tunes:

http://www.redhotjazz.com/

Freefolk's links page, w/usual suspects:

http://www.freefolk.com/tddata.htm

The excellent Mississippi State Univ's Charles H. Templeton's Digital Sheet Music collection (rags, blues, war songs, popular songs, etc):

http://library.msstate.edu/ragtime/main.html

Max Hunter Folk Song Collection of Ozark Mountain folk songs (in progress, but well worth the trip, due to be complete by summer 2003):

http://www.smsu.edu/folksong/maxhunter/

African Music Archive (includes diaspora music like Jamaica folk music, etc) mostly links to realaudio collections, rather than indices and databases:

http://ntama.uni-mainz.de/~ama/

Subject: RE: Mudcat Site Map and PermaThread Index
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 01 Mar 02 - 05:50 PM

Here's an idea for somebody out there looking for a project.

It would be nice if we had an index to all song threads organized around a topic. Here are a few examples: Songs about getting really old?
'Women's' Work Songs
Narrowboat songs
Flower songs
Wanted: Songs for alcoholics!
Halloween Songs
But those are just a few of the easy ones—the ones with "songs" in the thread title. Where it would be a lot harder to compile, and where it would be most useful, is when the thread title doesn't give you a clue what it's about, or may even be misleading.

For example, today I ran across an old thread called How many fallen women does it take? From the title, I never would have guessed it was about music. I would have thought it was a joke thread.

(In fact, it really annoys me when people give threads cute jokey titles, especially serious threads about music. Such people show that they're only interested in attracting attention in the short term, but not interested in helping people who might search for information in the future. But I digress.)

That thread needs some kind of cross-reference, for example, "Songs about Fallen Women,"

Subject: RE: Mudcat Site Map and PermaThread Index
From: GUEST,Foe
Date: 16 Aug 05 - 07:27 PM

Hi - I haven't been on this forum for quite a while, Retired and now geting ready to move to CA. Have recently been singing at a new concept showcase type thing run by a friend James Wagner from Frederick, MD. He has three venues, Jennifer's bar, the Mudd Puddle Coffee House and the Friends Meeting house where he is running a showcase at each place once a week. The showcase is called WHAP which stands for Weekly Happening with Audience Participation. Jim puts cards out on each table with "performer #1" etc on cards and the audience is encouraged to critique songs and performance. Very interesiting and fun.

Anyway, I'm going to tell Jim to Contact you'all with the particulars. A good showcase for people from DC, MD, and Northern VA. Songwriters, folkies, poets and comedians are welcome.

Foe Meader

Subject: RE: Mudcat Site Map and PermaThread Index
From:
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 05:45 PM

Hmmm. A very important thread is NOT here. (IS this likely to be put back at the top of the threads list again? Or have I done something strange and that's why it doesn't show there any longer?

Great Tune Hunt

Subject: RE: Mudcat Site Map and PermaThread Index
From: GUEST,Guy Wolff On Lap top
Date: 22 Jun 08 - 05:29 PM

HEllo Joe . Guy Wolff Here on my lap top .. Have mudcatters started a permathread on links to tunes and songs performed by members and then posted on youtube? I looked around for a thread on Youtube and found none. All the best , Guy   



I found English Jon on youtube and know there are more .

Subject: RE: Mudcat Site Map, PermaThread Index, Memorabilia
From: Joe Offer
Date: 11 Nov 11 - 05:49 PM

I'm in the process of cleaning up PermaThreads. If you know of PermaThreads that should be closed or ones that need an editor, please let me know by posting here. I could use more people to volunteer to maintain the PermaThreads that have been neglected.
Thanks.

-Joe-