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Subject: Does paintballing hurt? From: GUEST,Not a wimp - honest Date: 27 Feb 01 - 05:06 PM A friend of mine is getting married soon, and part of his 'stag' weekend is going to be a paintball day. I've never done it before, and whilst it sounds like fun, I'm not to keen on pain. Can anyone enlighten me? Should I buy a bullet-proof vest? Simon |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does paintballing hurt? From: mousethief Date: 27 Feb 01 - 05:10 PM Wear lots of padding. It hurts like getting hit with a fast-moving ball of paint with a thin dried-paint shell. Alex |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does paintballing hurt? From: Cobble Date: 27 Feb 01 - 05:10 PM Ask Bill Sables, They have a paintball range. Cobble. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does paintballing hurt? From: Rick Fielding Date: 27 Feb 01 - 05:13 PM I'd like to know too. You'd think that someone who's a commie pinko peacenik, who'd prefer that hunters got shot instead of the animals wouldn't want to blow away folks with paintballs....but I'd LOVE to! Would be fun to excercise my fantasies and be some loner Rambo up in a tree dropping Corporate Managers in their tracks.....but I don't wanna get hurtttt. Closet marksman |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does paintballing hurt? From: GUEST, WYSIWYG Date: 27 Feb 01 - 05:14 PM Mt brother does this a lot. You develop a tolerance for it, like you do for boxing, where you bruise less easily, but only if you do it often. And I guess even then it still hurts. For example, he is a tough guy, my brother-- but HE says it hurts, and he won't take his kid. On a recent crime show on TV, a bunch of hooligans went out paintballing on the street not long ago, with a video camera. They shot up lots of people, like people at bus stops, etc., thinking they were having a great time. The people, especially the ones who got red paintballs, thought they were really being shot. (Amazing none of them shot back.) Imagine the traunma from thinking you are getting killed-- and all for the sake of a laugh. So... talk to some other paintballers and find out how much padding they wear, and how close it is OK to shoot, etc., would by my advice. E-mail me if you want me to forward a message to my brother. ~Susan (Click HERE to e-mail me.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does paintballing hurt? From: SINSULL Date: 27 Feb 01 - 05:16 PM A pair on the news last night were shown shooting frozen paint balls at gays in Alaska. Alaska has no "hate crime" laws (according to the report) so even though the two filmed their own attacks, there may not be much that can be done. By the way, it hurt. But it was frozen. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does paintballing hurt? From: GUEST, Dropped Cookie (~Susan) Date: 27 Feb 01 - 05:25 PM Rick, I'm telling ya, ya gotta come down here! We have it ALL! What, yer waiting for the warm weather so you two can have the pop-up camper? OK-- the shooting ranges are all outdoors anyway. Trade you lesson for lesson, deal? ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does paintballing hurt? From: Sorcha Date: 27 Feb 01 - 05:29 PM Luke has come home with bruises the size of a .50 cent piece, and large "hickie" type things as well. Sometimes they bleed and scab over. A vest would not be a bad idea, but they cost about $400. You HAVE to have head/eye protection--something like a hockey goalies mask, or a fencing mask. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does paintballing hurt? From: Liz the Squeak Date: 27 Feb 01 - 05:30 PM Always wear the protective clothing and eyeguards they should provide.... paint may not hurt much when fired but if it gets in your eyes, you are in trouble. Make sure the goggles are snug fitting and don't be tempted to leave them off because you look like a bug, because they could save your eyesight. if you are being shot at close enough range to leave bruises, then your opponent is not obeying the rules and is shortening their range. LTS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does paintballing hurt? From: annamill Date: 27 Feb 01 - 05:31 PM I love paintballing! and yes, it can hurt like hell. It can give you big welts on your skin if you get shot to close. Wear padding on your torso(sp) and a cup (I don't wear one ;-). The whole point, of course, is NOT to get shot. I've been shot every time, drat! The hunting and stalking is lots of fun. Wear an eye protector too. I got to join in with a bunch of guys from brooklyn. It was great. Of course our team won, but they kept trying to protect me from getting hurt. That was a pain. Everytime I found a cool place to hide there would be someone trying to hide near me. "Go find your own place!". Have fun. Love, annamill |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does paintballing hurt? From: GUEST,feeling more of a wimp with every message Date: 27 Feb 01 - 05:38 PM annamill and others, can you recommend any reasonably priced 'protection'? Simon
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Subject: RE: BS: Does paintballing hurt? From: catspaw49 Date: 27 Feb 01 - 05:50 PM I think if you have the right artistic kind of woman and a soft brush, paintballing is wonderful. I'd stay away from the acrylics though. Something in a water cleanup latex is OK, but for maximum enjoyment, I'd suggest making your own "paint" out of food coloring and Cool-Whip. That works for anything.......paintballs, paintdick, paintsnatch, paintboobs.......you name it!! Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does paintballing hurt? From: Liz the Squeak Date: 27 Feb 01 - 05:58 PM Now Spaw, you mind you leave that little bit over the tail bone bare, or else you'll end up like that lady in Goldfinger who suffocated in paint...... Sean Connery won't be around to help you out of it either.... if he is, can you let me know and I'll come over....... drooling..... LTS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does paintballing hurt? From: GUEST,Simon Date: 27 Feb 01 - 05:59 PM Catspaw, You are often amusing, today you aren't. Let people who have an idea answer, please? Simon |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does paintballing hurt? From: catspaw49 Date: 27 Feb 01 - 06:07 PM Okay....Want an idea? Been there, done that, got the T-shirt.....One of my foster kids was hooked and I got involved for a few months. Hurts like hell!! I'd also suggest you wear a mouthpiece. My neighbor Scott clued me in on that one and the third week we went out I got the point. It is fun and beats real bullets. Have you ever played Squash? Hits just a bit harder than a fast moving sqaush ball. Problem? Yeah....You don't know they're coming or from where. I'd try my first post instead if you have any qualms about pain. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does paintballing hurt? From: mousethief Date: 27 Feb 01 - 06:13 PM What I really hate, Spaw, is the way your clever joke of an answer prevents people who really know about paintball injuries from answering. I guess it wouldn't be too bad if you could just add a joke, and people could continue commenting about paintball injuries. But when your joke prevents further discussion of the REAL topic of the thread, you've gone too far, damn you. I tried posting something about the bruises I've seen from paintballing, and it just bounced back. I tried like 7 times. Nothing worked. I don't even know if this post will get through. Alex |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does paintballing hurt? From: GUEST,Whimy guy Date: 27 Feb 01 - 06:14 PM "Hits just a bit harder than a fast moving sqaush ball." Thank you, that's all I wanted to know. Simon
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Subject: RE: BS: Does paintballing hurt? From: catspaw49 Date: 27 Feb 01 - 06:26 PM So are you going or what? Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does paintballing hurt? From: GUEST Date: 27 Feb 01 - 06:32 PM Yes, I'm going - but i'l investigate ways to limit bruises first |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does paintballing hurt? From: bill\sables Date: 27 Feb 01 - 09:01 PM My son has been running a paintball site in Yorkshire for the past twelve years and in that time it has grown from ten to fifteen players a day to over two hundred a day. I have played many times and I have been cut by a paintball which did hurt like hell but it was from about two yards and it hit me on the forehead, it also hurts when it hits you on the bare fingers but most of the shots don't hurt at all, in fact in every game people call marshals over to check them over for paint marks they didn't even feel. The modern guns we use are semi automatics and the speed of the paintball, propeled by co2, leaving the gun is between 125 and 200 feet per second. The paint ball itself is about half an inch round and consists of a water soluable dye inside a bio-degradable shell which is designed to burst if it hits a leaf. Most of our players come back again at a later date for another game so it can't hurt that much. However one of the main rules in the UK is that you don't shoot at anyone's head, if fact a head shot is not counted as being shot. Most reputable sites will supply goggles and face mask which will protecy the wearer from any shot to the eyes, temple, mouth, nose, ears and throat. Paintball goggles have to be tested for the job they are doing and the test is firing a half inch steel ball baring at 200 feet per second from one yard straight onto the lens. The main safety rule is never ever take goggles off during or after a game till you are in the designated safe area, a paintball will definatly take your eye out if the angle is right. We don't encourage players under 16 and our oldest player was 78, we also find that 33% are women who are usually the most cunning; while a man will run into the enemy shooting a woman usually waits in hiding and shoots you when you least expect it. As to Rick's idea regarding being against shooting birds etc; we don't usually get the shooting types who shoot at birds and rabbits, I think it is because the target they are shooting at in paintball is carrying a gun as well and they dont like the odds. So Whimp Guy go ahead and enjoy yourself but remember to keep the goggles on. Cheers Bill |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does paintballing hurt? From: Sorcha Date: 27 Feb 01 - 09:29 PM Out here in the Wild West, we don't have actual "ranges" set up. The group just gets permission from a landowner to go paintballing.Consequently, there are few rules and fewer Marshalls......anything goes, that's why I recommend "full face/head coverage". Shots from 1 meter or less are common, and congratulated. It doesn't sound like fun to this old lady, lemme tell ya! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does paintballing hurt? From: Little Hawk Date: 27 Feb 01 - 11:30 PM Hmmmm...doesn't appeal to me. I'd rather have a game where the gun fired a harmless light beam and it registered on the suit somehow when you got a hit. I would probably enjoy the suspense, but I don't care for pain. - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does paintballing hurt? From: alison Date: 27 Feb 01 - 11:34 PM My hubby went....... came back with bruises and hickies... but he had a ball... wants to do it again.... next time he said he'd wear a lot more layers to protect his arms a bit more...
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Subject: RE: BS: Does paintballing hurt? From: wdyat12 Date: 28 Feb 01 - 12:10 AM Not to downplay the obvious advantage of modern paintballing, but does anybody out there still enjoy a good old fashioned apple fight? wdyat12 |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does paintballing hurt? From: GUEST,Uncle Jaque Date: 28 Feb 01 - 04:13 AM Never tried it but some of our youngsters have; they say that if the ball doesn't break on impact, that it smarts more that when it does. I am working on a paintball Civil War musket in order to combine tactical reenacting with paintball. It might help to resolve all those "Ya missed me" discussions we occasionally have with our Secessionist playmates down South during regular reenactments using blanks. ("Webbles wobble but they don't fall down!" Of course both sides would be appropriately armed and protected - unlike some of our British counterparts who were in the habit of dropping a kernel of popcorn down with the powder charge... those "old maids' could really sting! It would be a pneumatic hand-pumped job in order to simulate the rate of fire of a muzzle-loader - about 3 rounds per minute. Some of the smoothbore muskets used from the 1700s up through the Civil War were .69" caliber, and a regulation paintball is .68". I have tried firing one with a small "squib" charge of black powder from my M-1842 Springfield, but it shatters the egg-like paintball, and a percussion cap alone barely gets it out of the muzzle. We're working on it! Yes, I do recall those "apple fights"... we used a whippy sapling stick pointed at one end, and lob little green apples in a manner similar to fly-casting. With a little practice, those things would really sail! Sometimes, we'd poke a hole in the apple and insert a "ladyfinger" firecracker, which a buddy would light off while in the "ready" position... applesauce shrapnel! We ambushed a convoy of unsuspecting NH National Guardsmen one time; didn't that apple-grenade clear the back of that deuce-and-a-half in a hurry! (they never did catch us). Statute of limitations has long (about 30 years) lapsed on that stunt, by the way. We are now considering converting a coule of junk lobster boats into plywood replicas of the "Monitor" and "Merrimac" (CSS Virginia) equipped with potato-cannon artillery and duke it out in Casco Bay with tomatoes. You have to be carefull with spuds; as at least one unfortunate recipient has been fatally injured by one we are told. It seems that a WW-I Austrailian Lithgow No. 1 Mk III Enfield rifle grenade launcher was set up to launch a grenade which was just the same diameter as a regulation tennis ball... how convenient! Of course you have to wad behind the ball with rags and a disc of carpeting or you will blow a hole clean through it with the propellant charge... That would make an interesting "serve"; see if you could butt-stroke it back over the net. Of course the Officials might balk at having holes blown through thier net... I have heard of people making an air-cannon out of 3" PVC pipe and firing styrofoam cups full of paintballs as "cannister", and they have "paint grenades" too... Have fun!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does paintballing hurt? From: SeanM Date: 28 Feb 01 - 04:20 AM LH... before the latest round of paintball craze, there was a game exactly as you describe it. Went by "Photon", and is the direct progenitor of all the "Lazer Mazes" and the like you see nowadays. You had a big clunky helmet (with sensors), a chest sensor, a gun, and a battery belt that must have weighed 15-20 lbs... They turned you loose in a two story fog-filled dimly lit maze and kept score on computer. REAL fun was when the Orange County Sherrif's team played. Nothing like playing against the pros... As to paintball? My advice - Camoflage pants and shirt over regular clothing will provide ample coverage for normal shots, unless you're going up against the ConstantAir brigade. If your local range is using hand held mini-CO2 cartridge guns, then you shouldn't have to worry. From my experience, good gloves are a must - not only to protect the hands from getting shot (learned this one after I picked up a scar from an inadvertent 3 inch distant shot from a teammate), but they also help in negotiating rough terrain. If you even remotely think this might be something that you'll do again, getting a full face mask is a REALLY good idea. Preferably, get one with a screened grill for the mouth and some sort of ear protection. The grill lets you call to other team members while hopefully keeping the paint out in case of a face hit (and the paint tastes NASTY), and the ear protection is a good idea, also in case someone hits there as well. Picking paint ball bits out of one's ear for a week is not a good hobby. Also, if you're not wearing something with a high collar, a mask with some degree of neck protection is a good idea too. Unless you're playing on an indoor or 'urban' range, good strong shoes or boots are advisable. I play on outdoor ranges in California, and steel toes have saved my feet a number of times when a rock decides to get better acquainted with gravity. The advice about a 'cup' is good too, though since I usually snipe, I don't often get into a situation where it's a problem. Finally, even though this is for a 'stag' weekend, be sane. It's a good idea to walk around and check out what you can of the ranges, if only to start pegging places to go... if you talk to a regular, they may also point out any hidden dangers (like the 6' deep gully I found one game). You may also want to waste a few shots test firing your weapon, especially if it's a range rental. Fortunately, a backfiring paintball gun is not nearly as dangerous as a real gun, but it can still ruin your day. Remember as well... it's a game, it's always a game, and it should be treated as such. Go out, have fun, and just keep your head about you. M |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does paintballing hurt? From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler Date: 28 Feb 01 - 06:22 AM The video of the NYCFTTS staff and inmates paintball outing carries the disclaimer:" No paintballs were hurt during the making of this video." However, several participants complained the turpentine used to remove the paint from their balls made their eyes water. RtS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does paintballing hurt? From: sledge Date: 28 Feb 01 - 07:35 AM Going off thread with this, but given some of the oddball things that have cropped up I would like to know if anyone else knows of beer can bazookas. I did this when in the Navy. You make a tube from empty beer cans (about 5 cans in length) and a lot of duct tape. Using paper you make a cup around the top end which is cut so as to be completely open and punch a touch hole in the base can. Other empty beer cans serve as ammunition, these are placed in the cup you have fitted at the top end, while the propellent is any lightable aerosel spray/lighter fluid sprayed into the touch hole. This was touched off with a match or taper. Silly, yes. Foolish, yes. not to be done by normal people, yes. Frowned upon now that I am older, yes. Fun at the time, YES. Sledge |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does paintballing hurt? From: GUEST Date: 28 Feb 01 - 07:53 AM sledge, we shot tennis balls out of those. I'd forgotten them. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does paintballing hurt? From: GUEST,Matt_R Date: 28 Feb 01 - 08:07 AM I just got a rather funny image of Little Hawk decked out in full Laser Tag regalia! Maybe he could get Flattop AKA "Ms McGinn 2001" to help him out? And watch out for those sneaky laser-toting hamsters. Just another day in Orillia. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does paintballing hurt? From: Grab Date: 28 Feb 01 - 08:52 AM LH, Laser-quest is still going over here - there's often one attached to bowling alleys. Grab. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does paintballing hurt? From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler Date: 28 Feb 01 - 10:50 AM Well, if we're talking hamsters....: Millennium Dome sale news: The six -foot-tall fibreglass hamster, complete with 3ft wedge of plastic cheese, was bought by father-of-three Brent Pollard, from Kent, for £3,000.
He later admitted that he had intended to spend only £250 but had got carried away. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does paintballing hurt? From: wysiwyg Date: 28 Feb 01 - 12:07 PM Yeah, just wait till one of those re-enactors gets his spiffy all-strack uniform paintballed. Watch out for the bayonet charge then! And the wives and camp followers-- "You want me to clean WHAT out of the uniform I made you?????" Make going back to camp after battle a whole new experience. Most unsat. Have to use laundry soap as the paint. Don't they use jello over at the NYCenter? ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does paintballing hurt? From: mousethief Date: 28 Feb 01 - 12:19 PM I thought this thread had to do with that old cowboy song about bestiality. You know:
I ball an old paint |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does paintballing hurt? From: Pseudolus Date: 28 Feb 01 - 12:43 PM I've thought about this myself on occasion so I thought I would read everyone's ideas.....and in all honesty...I'd go with Spaw's first post. It was clear, to the point and frankly a spawsome idea!!!
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Subject: RE: BS: Does paintballing hurt? From: wysiwyg Date: 28 Feb 01 - 12:58 PM Frank! ~Shocked in PY *G* |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does paintballing hurt? From: catspaw49 Date: 28 Feb 01 - 01:15 PM Thanks Frank........Having experience at both, you have made a fine choice. Anybody do the APYC thing? That's an "Anti Pirate Yacht Cannon"......helluva "toy." Its rubber tubing and a cup to hold a water ballon, much like a plunger, with a handle and all. Its really a giant slingshot. Bill and I would rig it to the forestay and the mast and sail past the yacht club under main alone and get in 5 or 6 ... then come about and do it again. We were less than popular with the Yacht Club set, but it was a riot. A few other small cruisers got them and we'd have fights on the water. To fill the balloons better we rigged a bilge pump with a nozzle to fill them fast. The worst thing about this toy is that you get to laughing so hard you have trouble shooting, sailing, or anything else. Also, we fired some almost straight up, trying to lead the other boat enough that it came down on top.....very effective at close range. Unfortunately, one day Bill shot up just a bit off and we busted $400. worth of wind/weather gear off the top of our mast. Anyway, if you are ever around one...DO IT!!! If you can find two poles about 15 foot apart on land, they'll shoot a water balloon about 150 YARDS! Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does paintballing hurt? From: mousethief Date: 28 Feb 01 - 01:22 PM We made those in Sea Scouts. We called them funnelators, because we used funnels as the "cup". Very powerful, but not terribly accurate. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does paintballing hurt? From: annamill Date: 28 Feb 01 - 01:37 PM Alison, I don't know what they consider hickeys where you are, but if MY husband came home with bruises and HICKEYS, I'd have some questions! And they would have nothing to do with paintballing. I would want to know exeactly what he meant by "Having a ball" ;-) **joking** **BG** (i did this at risk of being hollered at, like 'spaw) Paintballing is fun! Love, annamill |
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Subject: Not really... From: Clinton Hammond Date: 28 Feb 01 - 01:42 PM So am I the only one here, who as a kid used to have pellet-gun fights? If you can take that, paint-ball is a walk in the park... I'd say paint-ball stings more than a good spank on the ass, but less than getting a squash-ball bounced off yer shoulder-blade... Paint balls hurt much less when they actually break on you than if they hit ya and don't break... That's usually where you end up with the welts that bleed a bit and scab over and such... Don't wear tight clothing alone... Depending on the rules of the site yer playing at, wear as many layers as they'll allow... a thin layer on the bottom, and then if ya can, a loos layer on top... I used to do a t-shirt next to the skin, and a rugged green sweat-shirt on the top, with a vest of chainmaille in between... you can get hit point-blank and not feel a thing that way! LOL!! It's fun as hell, and worth the bit of a sting from time to time.. depending on where and when ya play, the bugs will probably be worse than the balls... ;-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does paintballing hurt? From: catspaw49 Date: 28 Feb 01 - 01:48 PM Let 'em holler anna......have fun! This ain't exactly a scholarly type of thread. Here's balloon launcher....CLICK......I've seen some good homemade ones MT....and you're right, the accuracy leaves a bit to be desired (nothing like replacing the gear on the mast to bring that home) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does paintballing hurt? From: wysiwyg Date: 28 Feb 01 - 01:52 PM Pat. I'm counting on you to organize the Mudcat Olympics at the next Tavern. Start working up the winter games too, OK? ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does paintballing hurt? From: Dave Swan Date: 28 Feb 01 - 04:35 PM I've had a split lip and numerous little stings, but nothing as painful as what I did to myself. Running hard as I could across the concrete floor of an indoor facility, I hit a patch of the oil which is used to produce vision obscuring fog. Both feet came out from under me, I went horizontal, and before I had a chance to do anything about it, I landed HARD, flat on my back in the middle of the floor. As I lay gasping for just a little breath, a witch from the opposing team broke cover and emptied her magazine into me. I walked like Boris Karloff for a week. Some of the best fun I've ever had.
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Subject: RE: BS: Does paintballing hurt? From: alison Date: 28 Feb 01 - 07:36 PM lol... its what they look like.... honest slainte alison |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does paintballing hurt? From: wdyat12 Date: 01 Mar 01 - 12:28 PM Well, Fellow Mudcatters, It seems that we are all armed to the teeth. This thread might give those in power a little to think about if they try to take our Second Ammendment Rights away. wdyat12 |
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Subject: RE: BS: Does paintballing hurt? From: mousethief Date: 01 Mar 01 - 01:21 PM Yeah, imagine the damage we could cause with small balls of paint to troops armed with M-16's and AK47's. |