Subject: Help! Twa Corbies From: GUEST,Jordan jordannku@yahoo.com Date: 01 Mar 01 - 08:58 PM Does anyone know where I can find information about the ballad Twa Corbies? I'm working on an assignment for a class at Northern Kentucky University and any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks |
Subject: RE: Help! Twa Corbies From: Sorcha Date: 01 Mar 01 - 09:20 PM click. This is from The Contemplator's site. 3 Ravens is basically the same song as Twa Corbies.... |
Subject: RE: Help! Twa Corbies From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 01 Mar 01 - 10:27 PM The essential thing is that Twa Corbies is Scottish and cynical, Three Ravens is English and more naive. I used to prefer the cynical version, but, as Bob Dylan puts it, "I was older then, I'm so much younger now", and I think I find the naive way of seeing things more essentially true. But you pays your money and you takes your choice.
Anyway, here is a thread about the songs on the Mudcat
There are lots more - just type Twa Corbies into the supersearch (Digitrad and Forum search up towards the top of the index page on the left) and you get leads to all kinds of discussion about them.
You might need to be a registered member for that, I'm not sure. But that only takes about one minute to do, and unlike registering with lots of things on the net it doesn't mean you get unwanted emails from people trying to con you. |
Subject: RE: Help! Twa Corbies From: Bill D Date: 01 Mar 01 - 10:37 PM "information' is such a broad term...what do you already know? Why this ballad? For serious help, tell us more. (I have been singing it for 30 years)....It doesn't have a lot of versions or 'history' to it, but you can get a lot of opinion. Do you have F.J. Child in your library? |
Subject: RE: Help! Twa Corbies From: Noreen Date: 01 Mar 01 - 10:39 PM Two threads here:Twa corbies on a tree. Words?? and
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Subject: Lyr Add: THE TWA CORBIES (Peter MacNab) From: Dunc Date: 02 Mar 01 - 09:57 AM A variation on the same theme. This version was written by Peter MacNab after hearing a report that due to the lack of trees in the islands of Orkney, British Telecom (BT) were getting masses of call outs to repair telephone lines damaged by birds trying to build nests on the top of telegraph poles. Electricity lines were being damaged in the same way.
THE TWA CORBIES |
Subject: RE: Help! Twa Corbies From: GUEST,Ewan McVicar Date: 03 Mar 01 - 05:40 AM Old home week on the Mudcat for me. First John McGeachy Martyn, now my teacher Morris Blythman. I often heard Morris tell how on a visit to Brittany in the 1950s he heard the Breton song tune which he then put to the Scots Twa Corbies lyric, now sung and recorded so often. |
Subject: RE: Help! Twa Corbies From: GUEST,Ewan McVicar Date: 03 Mar 01 - 05:45 AM I thought I'd check the DigiTrad file. The tune connection clickie there plays you Three Ravens rather than Twa Corbies - a bird too many. And Norrie Buchan names the tune as Al Alarc'h rather than what's given in the database. |
Subject: RE: Help! Twa Corbies From: Jeri Date: 03 Mar 01 - 09:13 AM You're right, Ewan - the tune for TWA CORBIES 2 isn't the right one. I posted a MidiText version of it in the Twa Corbies thread Noreen linked to above, and a fixed ABC version a little further down the thread. For whatever reason, neither seems to have been harvested. As Malcolm Douglas pointed out in that thread, the tune is here - given for the Breton Liberation Song. The timing is different than what I'm used to hearing for Twa Corbies.
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Subject: RE: Help! Twa Corbies From: GUEST,JohnB Date: 03 Mar 01 - 09:36 AM There is also the Two Crows Sat on a Tree version. I can't give you the tune, i generally mak eit up as I go along from memory, but here are the words. Recited rather than sung, (first time through) There were Three Crows sat on a tree and they were black as black could be. ALL SING. (So then everone sings) There were Three Crows sat on a tree and they were black as black could be, and they were black as black could be, and they were black as black could be. (The last time in rip roaring harmony) It then continues in the same responsitory fashion. One old crow said to his mate, what have we this fine day to eat, ALL SING. Down behind yon wall of stone, there lies an old knight (sometimes Horse instead of Knight) newly slain. AS You his on his big breast bone and I'll pike out his bonny blue Een (Eye). AS One old Crow said to the other, by christ this is a tough old bugger. AS My mind has just gone blank and I can't remeber any more, maybe that is it. Not really sure of the origin either. JohnB I think I put line breaks in the right place. If I didn't, let me know, and I'll fix them. --JoeClone |
Subject: RE: Help! Twa Corbies From: Peg Date: 03 Mar 01 - 09:47 AM Maddy Prior does an interesting arrangement of it on her album "Year" based on some old (Cornish? Northumbrian??) dance tune... |
Subject: RE: Help! Twa Corbies From: Anglo Date: 03 Mar 01 - 11:11 PM Maddy uses the Breton tune Ewan mentions above. I think the first place it was published was Norman Buchan's 101 Scottish Songs (1962). |
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