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Any nice songs?

GUEST 06 Mar 01 - 02:45 PM
Sarah2 06 Mar 01 - 03:51 PM
Liz the Squeak 06 Mar 01 - 04:18 PM
Sarah2 06 Mar 01 - 04:26 PM
gnu 06 Mar 01 - 04:29 PM
GUEST 06 Mar 01 - 06:10 PM
GUEST,Bruce O. 06 Mar 01 - 06:30 PM
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Sarah2 06 Mar 01 - 09:17 PM
Deni 07 Mar 01 - 12:53 AM
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UB Ed 07 Mar 01 - 01:30 PM
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Subject: Any nice songs?
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Mar 01 - 02:45 PM

Hey! I'm a 15 year old girl from Scotland, just started out in folk music (although i've played the fiddle for about 8 years) and i was wondering if anyone knew any really good songs that i could learn to sing out and about? i know some good ones already like the Bonny ship the diamond, dainty davie etc but there doesn't seem to be much cracking songs for girls to sing! I've had a look in the database but i don't know where 2 start! If you know some maybe either post them here or send me an e-mail on minkmagnet@hotmail.com Thanx a lot Shona


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Subject: RE: Any nice songs?
From: Sarah2
Date: 06 Mar 01 - 03:51 PM

Shona, what sort of songs are you looking for? Any preferences as to geographic or cultural origin? Are you a person who gets grabbed by a tune, or by the lyrics? (I wouldn't worry about the gender thing -- lots of men do songs written for women and vice versa on the theory that it's the song that counts, not who's singing it.)

But you've come to the right place if it's folk or blues you want. Just a few more specifics and you'll find this thread full of listed songs...

Sarah


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Subject: RE: Any nice songs?
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 06 Mar 01 - 04:18 PM

What sort of voice do you have? Is it deep and rich or light and frothy?? That can make a big difference in the sort of songs you sing.

Light and frothy can restrict you to girlie songs sometimes, whereas a deeper, lower voice doesn't sound out of place with a "male" song.

Of course, you can always rewrite the gender....

LTS


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Subject: RE: Any nice songs?
From: Sarah2
Date: 06 Mar 01 - 04:26 PM

I did that a lot when I was young, LTS. Now I just make fun of the guy in the song during the intro...(i.e., "The Barnyards of Delgaty" being a typical "boys night out at the pub." The stages of alcohol impairment are still the same as long ago: First they complain about work, then they complain about women, then they puff up about how sexy and irresistable they are and then they pass out. I love that song.)

Sarah


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Subject: RE: Any nice songs?
From: gnu
Date: 06 Mar 01 - 04:29 PM

This may not help much, but it's worth a try. There is a thread below your post titled "BS: Natalie McMaster on Bravo". One of the respondants has a link to Nat's website. There, you may find discography with female Scottish Gaelic singers from Canada like Mary Jane Lamond, a treasure. As well, you may find some alternative Scottish Gaelic singing and fiddle which is awesome. I will try to get some time to get into my small collection of Canadian origin tunes of the music you seek and post back.

In the meantime, join up and you can trace this thread and search for others. I joined up a week ago and wish I had known the value of these types of sites on the web long ago.

gnu


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Subject: RE: Any nice songs?
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Mar 01 - 06:10 PM

There was a recent thread on women's songs; someone out there might be able to direct you to it. Good luck!


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Subject: RE: Any nice songs?
From: GUEST,Bruce O.
Date: 06 Mar 01 - 06:30 PM

Surely you're kidding. There's nothing like 'The Grieg-Duncan Collection of Folk Songs', over 1500 different songs with many versions of some and most with music (not tunes for all versions). STS even has a cassette tape where Mary MacQueen's songs of c 1828 (in Emily Lyle's 'Andrew Crawfurd's Collection') are reunited with the tunes that Andrew Blaikie noted from her. To find Greig-Duncan put 'Mercat Press' in any web search engine. There are quite a few Scots songs with tunes on my website in the Scarce Song 1 and 2 files, and many Scots tunes in T1 and T2.htm (www.erols.com/olsonw). Robert Burns even did some bawdy songs from a woman's perspective.


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Subject: RE: Any nice songs?
From: Mr Red
Date: 06 Mar 01 - 06:36 PM

Shona

I always reckon a shanty is good to learn. If you sing "the diamond" it is just one more step on. The point about the shanty (pick a good one for your voice) is that it is a work song and the rhythm is everything. You can imagine it's purpose - working in unison - as you sing.

A comic song is always useful to mix-up the repertoire. June Tabor sings a "broken token" song where the pay-off has the lass fishing-out a handful of broken rings etc and saying to the sailor "try these and see if one fits your token".

Oh and a smile while you are playing/singing (depending on song) is an asset.

Good Luck and the more you practice the more luck you will have (after Mark Twain).

PS if a person says to you that the "real version (of what you just perormed) is different just as they learned it at their mother's knee is...." just allude to the "folk process" and you are carrying on the tradition.


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Subject: RE: Any nice songs?
From: gnu
Date: 06 Mar 01 - 06:56 PM

Shona, I am sure he was kidding me when he said, "Surely you're kidding."

gnu


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Subject: RE: Any nice songs?
From: Deckman
Date: 06 Mar 01 - 07:50 PM

Welcome to the club ... Bob (deckman) USA


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Subject: RE: Any nice songs?
From: Sarah2
Date: 06 Mar 01 - 09:17 PM

I sent Shona an e-mail to come answer our questions. I think it's a bit late night there right now, though. So, am refreshing so this doesn't get lost.

Sarah


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Subject: RE: Any nice songs?
From: Deni
Date: 07 Mar 01 - 12:53 AM

Sarah, I had a look at the Barnyards of Delgaty on Digitrad. it doesn't seem to be the version you mentioned. Is there another one? Please help. Deni


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Subject: RE: Any nice songs?
From: Sarah2
Date: 07 Mar 01 - 11:28 AM

Deni,

If you go back to the song in the DigiTrad and click on "Next Entire Page" at the top, the next song to show up is the "Barnyards" as I know it. Don't know where that first song fits in...

Sarah


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Subject: RE: Any nice songs?
From: UB Ed
Date: 07 Mar 01 - 01:30 PM

Sarah2, I followed your instructions; I can't seem to find it either...


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Subject: RE: Any nice songs?
From: Sarah2
Date: 07 Mar 01 - 01:51 PM

I must not explain well enough. It's there when I look for it...

Okay, here ya go:

BARNYARDS OF DELGATY

As I cam' in by Turra Market,
Turra Market for to fee
I fell in wi' a farmer chiel,
The Barnyards of Delgaty!

Chorus:
Lintin addie toorin addie,
Lintin addie toorin ee
Lintin lowrin, lowrin, lowrin,
The barnyards of Delgaty!

He promised me the ae best pair
That ever I set my e'en upon
When I gaed to the Barnyards,
There was naething there but skin and bone

The auld black horse sat on its rump,
The auld white mare lay on her wime
And for all that I could "Hup" and crack
They wouldna rise at yokin' time

When I gae to the kirk on Sunday
Mony's the bonnie lass I see
Sitting by her faither's side
And winkin o'er the pews at me

I can drink and no be drunk
I can fecht and no be slain
I can lie wi another man's lass
And aye be welcome to my ain

Noo my candle is brunt oot
My snotter's fairly on the wane
Sae fare ye weel ye Barnyards
Ye'll never catch me here again!

_________ refers to a hiring fair where workers contract for a year's labor
sung by MacColl (Bothy Ballads and Scottish Popular Song) and
Bikel (Bravo Bikel)
filename[ BARNDELG
Tune file : BARNDELG

***

Old Blind Dogs do a wonderful rendition of this on their "Live" CD.

Sarah


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Subject: RE: Any nice songs?
From: GUEST,shona
Date: 07 Mar 01 - 04:13 PM

Thanx alot for your help! I've been told that i have a very natural voice which suits folk songs very well! Thats a good start b coz i love to sing them! i go to loads of folk festivals arounf the north-east of Scotland and i usually sing at pub sessions, but i'm not allowed to drink!! I have quite a bit of experience in singing in front of large audiences. I have a "normal" range for my age but i prefer to sing lower songs if you get what i mean! i'm always looking for songs and i've also recently taken up the guitar so if you know any chords for them please tell me! I'm a sort of person who likes the tune of the songs rather than the words although i would'nt sing something which i loved the tune to but hated the words! (did that make sense?) I know the barnyards o' delgaty because The acutal barnyards of Delgaty are about 20 something miles from where i live! Anyhoo, i'd better go now and thanx again for your help guys!


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Subject: RE: Any nice songs?
From: UB Ed
Date: 07 Mar 01 - 04:28 PM

Sarah, thanks. I was able to get to that tune, but was thinking of something else given your description (I'll say that's not a typical pub night for me and my buddies...). Regardless, I'll be looking for the tune and adding it ti the mix!

Ed


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Subject: RE: Any nice songs?
From: Sarah2
Date: 07 Mar 01 - 05:58 PM

UB Ed, good on you -- you and your friends would be a rare table of fellows here in my town. But it's the table where I'd rather sit! :-)

Shona, here are a few of your homeland's songs you can find in the DigiTrad and might find interesting:

I Know Where I'm Going
The Twa Sisters
Johnnie Cope
Such a Parcel of Rogues in a Nation
Glencoe
(and the one that brought me to this site:)
Bennachie -- second page version

If you like any of these, tell us: it might give us a lead of what else you might enjoy, so we can point them out in the DigiTrad.

Sarah


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Subject: RE: Any nice songs?
From: Deni
Date: 08 Mar 01 - 01:45 AM

Thanks a lot sarah2. Great help, great song!

cheers

Devon deni


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