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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: GUEST,999 Date: 02 Aug 11 - 04:34 PM In Portland? Good Lord! |
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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: GUEST,MAV Date: 02 Aug 11 - 03:06 PM Hey Folks! How y'all been? I've been pretty busy for the last, well, decade. But the other day I was cooking up some catfish, and suddenly remembered the forum. Hope everyone is in good health. That's all for now, talk to you later. MAV |
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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: GUEST,Sarah2 (at work) Date: 14 Mar 01 - 11:57 PM Stackley, I wasn't arguing about a thing: I was making an observation about the lack of civility I've seen here lately, if you'll read the post. The fact that I hadn't dived into what I suspected was a string of threads dedicated to politics with the uaual bent -- because I figured they would be mostly uncivil postings -- is what was taken out of context to insinuate that I'm uninformed politically and therefore have no worth as a human being. Seems to me that if someone says you don't know jack shit and are proud of it, asks you if you're a complete idiot, and signs off with a reference to morons, he's getting into personal attack. Maybe I'm being too sensitive? That was just general philosophy? If so, it's a pretty rude one. Sarah
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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: CarolC Date: 14 Mar 01 - 08:51 PM I don't see the welcome threads as being "touchy feely". I see them as an opportunity to help new members get some bearings and a little practice interacting with other members here in a relatively safe environment. And it helps existing members get to know a little bit about the new members. I always post to welcome threads. I know if there had been a welcome thread for me when I joined, I would have benefited from it. As it was, I was welcomed by people on other threads. Those welcomes helped me a lot. Carol |
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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: GUEST,Stackley Date: 14 Mar 01 - 08:42 PM Joe, take another look- its not a parody of a welcome thread, it IS the MAV welcome thread, excerpted. Any nastiness was in the original.
And Sarah, you were quoted almost exactly- nothing taken out of context. The attack was not on you, but on your worthless argument. |
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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: flattop Date: 14 Mar 01 - 08:39 PM Since some folks have trouble with threads with over 100 messages, I've started a new one called: |
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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: Skeptic Date: 14 Mar 01 - 08:38 PM Continued here against all logic |
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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: SINSULL Date: 14 Mar 01 - 08:34 PM Actually Joe...you bear hugged me. So much for the "I'm not touchy feely" or was it the beer? Yes I feel welcome. Sulk over. Hey, it's hugging strangers I object to, Mary. I believe we had sung some darn good songs together, imbibed, and eaten haggis before you got a hug from me. By that time, you certainly weren't a stranger. And if the recipient of the hug is an attactive member of the opposite sex who sings well, even the most staid of midwesterners can't be expected to resist the temptation to hug... -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: I STILL Hate Welcome Threads From: Joe Offer Date: 14 Mar 01 - 08:17 PM Well, hell, I'm a Midwesterner. Touchy-feelies scare me. If a couple of people shake my hand heartily and say "you betcha" a couple of times, I'll feel right at home. If you can feed me some Jello mold or hot dish, that's even better. A beer or two would be nice, and brandy even better. But if a hundred people line up to welcome me with gushy words, it's terrifying (and quite boring). Sometimes, I wonder how I've survived in warm, fuzzy California for the last 25 years.... I suppose the "Pol Pot" thread is a rather clever parody of "welcome" threads, but it has a nasty tone to it that invites a flame war, so I won't post to it. And Sinsull, as I recall, I gave you a hearty handshake and even ate haggis with you, so you should consider yourself welcomed. -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: GUEST,Sarah2 (at work) Date: 14 Mar 01 - 08:14 PM Hysterion, Ebbie, Oh, I looked at them today, after I'd posted here, just for the hell of it, to see if my guess about the thread titles was off base or not: Sorry, no change of opinion about all the liberal love here. Just an urge to get away from all the vituperative hatred. Pardon me if I don't seek guidance from folks who can't resist demeaning others as a form of argument. Hysterion, taking things out of context is apparently considered a really clever debating trick by some here; the point someone tries to make can then so easily be lost in the attack on a phrase, and, by extension, on the person. But you only prove my point to me. You attack me, and display how ungenerous you can be to anyone who isn't ready to follow, lemminglike, the liberal lead. Not very convincing. Sarah
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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: Lonesome EJ Date: 14 Mar 01 - 07:33 PM If Joe snaps we're all in trouble, Jeri |
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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: Justa Picker Date: 14 Mar 01 - 07:31 PM I figure that by not announcing my membership here when I joined, I saved a thread being started with perhaps 4 or 5 posts. I was also breast fed as a child so I've never really needed anything further, to feel worthy or validated. I generally let my fingers do my talking. :-) (I agree with Joe 100%.) |
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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: Jeri Date: 14 Mar 01 - 07:25 PM Joe, I agree. There are some folks who just come here to talk about music and feel comfortable doing so and find themselves assaulted by touchie-feelies. It's like seeing someone new at a party and stopping the whole party to introduce him and then taking turns hugging him to death, while he's trying to squirm his way out the door. If it had happened to me when I first came here, I probably would have left in a hurry and not come back. I don't read the welcome threads. There are a lot of threads I don't read these days. I just came in here to see if Joe finally snapped. ;-)
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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: gnu Date: 14 Mar 01 - 07:25 PM Joe.... thank you...thank you....thank you. extremelygratefulgnu PS... I WAS going to post the following to the Piss Pot thread, but I'll post it now becasue it seems right. Being a new member, I recently read in the "Newcomers" ....... I would like to say one thing about flamers (those who say nasty things) and trolls (seemingly nice people who goad flamers and then provoke a flame war by playing the martyr): Do NOT respond to flamers and trolls. They feed on attention. The only way to control them is to ignore them and starve them from the attention they crave. Act as if they did not exist, and they usually will go away. If they don't go away, the Powers That Be will have an easier time dealing with them if others have ignored them. I know it's a natural thing to want to respond, but please don't. |
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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: SINSULL Date: 14 Mar 01 - 07:18 PM I feel it is time to point out that aside from two PMs, I have never officially been welcomed the the 'Cat. No! It's too late. The damage is done. Now I'll go sulk in a corner and watch MAV and Pol Pot get all the attention. Big SIGH! |
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Subject: I Hate Welcome Threads From: Joe Offer Date: 14 Mar 01 - 07:08 PM [sigh] I hate "welcome" threads. With some 8,500 registered Mudcatters, how many novel ways can we invent to say "welcome"? Can't we just address them by name and answer their questions or comments in the threads where they post, and not come up with a hundred-message thread every time somebody notices a new name? I know the intentions are good - same with the healing and prayer threads - but if you repeat anything too often, it becomes tedious, meaningless drivel. I see there's a "welcome" thread for Pol Pot, whose registration lists his e-mail as genocide@hotmail.com. Now, there's a flame war waiting to erupt. I hope Mudcatters have the good sense not to post to that thread at all. If you'd like to welcome Pol Pot, send him e-mail. I suppose expressing an opinion like this is inviting flames from all the do-gooders, but what the hell.... -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: Matt_R Date: 14 Mar 01 - 06:45 PM Well kat, I'm sorry, that's just the way I am. You can't FORCE me to read something I'm just not interested in. If I see people arguing politics on the TV, I turn the channel. And they usually do it with less venom than they do here! If there's a music thread I'm not interested in, I don't read it either. I used to get in political thread a long time ago, and found myself getting angry, violent, and nasty. I have no wish to be like that again. And in those threads, it's just one hostility after another. Besides, they take SOOOO long to load!! |
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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: MAV Date: 14 Mar 01 - 06:32 PM 100? |
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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: Greg F. Date: 14 Mar 01 - 06:31 PM Oh, c'mon Kat, don't be that way. Smooches?!??
Ebbie, I can groove so bad, it'd hurt you feelins'??!!??? |
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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: katlaughing Date: 14 Mar 01 - 06:27 PM Jesus didn't get involved in politics? You've got to be kidding, right? He was a rebel who defied the government of his time. As far as I am concerned that means he was involved. Matt, sorry, I am glad to hear that you voted with good reasons. It just really bothers me when I hear/read statements liek you made baout staying out of the political threads etc. You may think things we are passionate about do not have any bearing on you life. You will find out differently. It's one of the reasons we talk about the seventh generation among Native American spirituality...what we do today will effect seven generations and more, so we must be thoughtful and involved. Wesley...interesting point, perhaps as Matt says, that is why we have a shrub for resident. |
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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: MAV Date: 14 Mar 01 - 06:23 PM Dear Kat, Cat, Mouse, Greg et al,
Here's where the rubber meets the road.
I would like to have you identify and locate my complete and in-context posts to demonstrate to all these nice folks (who may be blues fans) by using MY OWN WORDS against me, where I'm a, (taking deep breath);
cruelbiggotedmassmurderingracisthomophobicsexistmorondirtbagevilmeanspiritedknuckledraggingtroglodytewhitesupremicistbastard.
Just because I'm a conservative Republican from Nebraska doesn't automatically make me any of the above.
"It would've been a lot less acrimonious if mav had come in as a music lover first; as it is many of us see little reason to welcome regardless" Oh, c'mon Kat, don't be that way. Smooches?
If you want to identify yourselves as "haters" and as the enemy, that's your right. If I'm a threat to your self-perceived notions of freedom and morality, I'm real sorry.
My referring to public figures or institutions by the way, does not count.
Remember, MY OWN WORDS!
But meanwhile, let's get back with the group.
PAR-DEE! PAR-DEE! PAR-DEE! PAR-DEE! PAR-DEE! PAR-DEE! Yay!! (cheering, noisemakers, conversation buzz, clinking glasses, Albert King playing loudly).
More cake anyone?
Thanks again folks,
mav out
PS Ebbie, I can groove so bad, it'd hurt you feelins'
I'll have to cut out early though, I'm going to go jam (on piano) with a BIG band. Later. |
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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: Little Hawk Date: 14 Mar 01 - 06:13 PM Lao-Tse steadfastly refused to involve himself in political matters, and he was universally considered to be the wisest man in China. Jesus showed little interest in politics also. I suspect he would not have voted, if given the chance to. He had more vital matters and more important work on his mind. Ditto for Buddha. Point being: You don't necessarily have to be either ignorant or apathetic to regard the current political arena as not worth participating in. Look at all the pointless hatred it has engendered on this forum alone. Maybe Matt is smarter than some of you give him credit for... p.s. Should clueless people who care vote? How do we define and separate them from the ones who aren't clueless? Who decides? You're all clueless in someone else's eyes...or they are in yours. - LH |
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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: Matt_R Date: 14 Mar 01 - 06:09 PM So not everyone votes. A common cause for Gen X? Not likely, unless it's making all illegal substances legal. And raising the legal alcohol limit. And raising the speed limit. Believe me, I know what people my age care about. Getting drunk all the time, "expanding their mind" on pot and getting killed. All I hear in class all day is who got drunk and who's got a hangover. Even among my Paltalk friends...that's all they care about. Music, history....no one cares about that stuff anymore. If your looking for Gen X'ers to build a barricade on Pennsylvania Avenue because of abortion or something. You wanna got do that stuff? Fine! Do it! Just leave me alone. Kill your mind, kill your fetuses (oops I mean kill dem cell clusters), kill your friends, kill you enemies, kill your brain cells, kill anything that doesn't pertain to you or anyone that doesn't agree with you, that's modern mentality. You're gonna have to try a HELL of a lot to get this generation of their asses to do anything. There may be one solution, though. My grandfather always used to say "What this country needs is another Depression, to make people realize how important it all is. And don't you DARE lump me in with "the vacuity of a bunch of apathetic people who can't be bothered to get involved and feel passionate about the government of their country." I didn't vote for Bush. I voted for about 2 or 3 people I really cared about. The rest I just picked names. But I think I accidentally punched a wrong hole on an unused line, so my ballot was probably nullified. If all the idiots in this nation hadn't voted for Bush & Gore, we would have had Bill Bradley and John McCain, who I really DID care about. And upon thinking back, if they HAD made it to the Final Election, I think I would have been hard pressed to choose between them. But when all the morons of the nation went for an animated wooden statue and a walking baby-doll, I lost all interest. I didn't like either of them, or what they stood for, and as far as I could see, NONE of them deserved my vote. Maybe next election will be better. This one sucked BIG TIME. I never want to see either of these dipwads again. Right now, I have seen NO change whatsoever in my life and my environment, world, etc that chaged when Clinton went out and Bush came in. I'm trying to get myself through college and find a job to support myself. I don't have time to go get myself arrested over issues that have no bearing on me. --Matt |
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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: Wesley S Date: 14 Mar 01 - 05:55 PM Clueless people who don't care SHOULDN'T vote in my opinion. |
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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: katlaughing Date: 14 Mar 01 - 05:42 PM So what? |
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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: Matt_R Date: 14 Mar 01 - 05:37 PM Jim Lehrer hasn't voted since 1962. |
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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: Pol Pot Date: 14 Mar 01 - 05:33 PM That is the spirit Matt R that I can recommend to all peasants revell in your stupidity embrace your ignorance like a lover uninvolved. Genocide can be useful management tool. Please do not call me names like mass muderer we are all human beings trying to get along on this planet and our petty differences do not negate our basic oneness with each other. |
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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: katlaughing Date: 14 Mar 01 - 05:32 PM And that is exactly what GWB represents...the vacuity of a bunch of apathetic people who can't be bothered to get involved and feel passionate about the government of their country. You will reap what you don't sow, also.... my daughter (who is involved AND VOTES) says her generation, somewhere in between X and now, needs a cause to unite them and get them fired up...I hope to gawd it isn't some war that the little pissant shrub stumbles onto. It would've been a lot less acrimonious if mav had come in as a music lover first; as it is many of us see little reason to welcome regardless. |
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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: Matt_R Date: 14 Mar 01 - 05:29 PM Unload it here, Wes! Cuz you know I love to play "Come Sail Away"! Hee hee, I know that gets yer gorge up, but I can't help it! Such a great song! |
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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: Matt_R Date: 14 Mar 01 - 05:22 PM Sarah, that's EXACTLY why I didn't read any of them. Wasting time blabbing about politics in my opinion is exactly that...a waste of time. Hell, I wrote my priest's name in on the ballot slot for President. |
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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: Wesley S Date: 14 Mar 01 - 05:21 PM Mav - I'm sure the young keyboard players of today would appreciate their Oberheims a whole lot more if they had a few hernias from lugging your rig around. PS - Don't tell anyone that I have an Arp Odessey in my closet - it will ruin my folky status. Let me know if you hear of a place I can unload it. |
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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: Ebbie Date: 14 Mar 01 - 05:14 PM Guest/Hysterion, not calling names but I agree with your reasoning! Sarah2, your basis for believing without reading that Bushwhacking, etc, was a thread filled with "self-congratulatory "liberal" ways to describe GWB in more and more demeaning terms" may solidify your opinion but frankly, it is silly in the extreme. Read the damn things and then come back and tell us 'loving liberals' where we went wrong. Until then, your opinion is not of any substance. mav, I gather that music has never brought you any joy. Ebbie |
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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: Greg F. Date: 14 Mar 01 - 05:09 PM Ya think, Alex? Jeckell & Hyde? Doppelganger? Multiple Personality Disorder? It gives one furiously to think.... Best, Greg |
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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: mousethief Date: 14 Mar 01 - 05:02 PM enjoyed every minute of it, just like being here on mudcatters He ain't heavy. He's my evil twin bruh-therrrrrrr..... |
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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: MAV Date: 14 Mar 01 - 05:01 PM Dear Wes, "Mav - Nothing - I mean NOTHING is funkier than a Hammond B-3 with a Leslie. But transporting them sucks - would you agree?" Abso-funky-lutely! Nothing like that plunking, distorted, clicking, whirling coke bottle 350 lb sound. "I sounds like you've played with some interesting people over the years" I have and enjoyed every minute of it, just like being here on mudcatters. I think I'll get a used Oberheim however, mav out |
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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: GUEST, - Hysterion Date: 14 Mar 01 - 04:55 PM FABULOUS!This is better than Monty Python! [MAV,] I've not read any of your posts; I've stayed out of the Bushwacked threads, since the title itself indicated to me they would be little more than a series of self-congratulatory "liberal" ways to describe GWB in more and more demeaning terms. Fascism wears many faces, after all. So:
I don't know what the thread has said.
I have no idea what you have said.
I don't know jack shit and what's more I'm proudly defiant about my total ignorance of or interest in the facts of the matter!
Since I'm totally ignorant of the situation, MAV, those who disagree with you and tastelessly call you names are obviously fascists. Jesus, lady, are you trying to be funny or are you just a complete idiot? Oh, ye generation of morons- |
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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: mousethief Date: 14 Mar 01 - 04:45 PM Bless your heart, LEJ. |
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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: Lonesome EJ Date: 14 Mar 01 - 04:44 PM Granted, mousethief. I just don't have the desire to read through those Bushwhacked threads to find out why I shouldn't like him, I guess. |
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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: mousethief Date: 14 Mar 01 - 04:37 PM People who only know MAV from this thread don't know MAV at all. |
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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: Lonesome EJ Date: 14 Mar 01 - 04:34 PM Well, I didn't know who MAV was until I read his post in this thread. He seems alright from that one. I for one wish him welcome, even if he is a gargoyle. Hell, every rare, old edifice has one. Why should Mudcat be any different? |
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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: Little Hawk Date: 14 Mar 01 - 04:16 PM Always good to hear from an independent, Sarah. Here's to unity in diversity! - LH |
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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: Sarah2 Date: 14 Mar 01 - 04:01 PM MAV, I opened this thread, and have been lurking, reading all the vitriol in stark amazement. Civility has been in short supply among the loving liberals here since the change in the White House: This is one of the reasons, I guess, I've not read any of your posts; I've stayed out of the Bushwacked threads, since the title itself indicated to me they would be little more than a series of self-congratulatory "liberal" ways to describe GWB in more and more demeaning terms. Fascism wears many faces, after all. I tend to believe that its basic tenent is "If you don't agree with my political outlook, you should be personally attacked, ostracized and dehumanized and then we'll getcha." (Let me hasten to add, here, that I'm not a Republican. I'm not a Democrat. I've never voted a straight ticket in my life. I'm not a conservative; I'm not a liberal. I like to think I'm an Independent and can make up my own mind about any given issue on its merits; and I am leery in the extreme of the Tyranny of the Majority. What's good for California, in my book, may not be the answer in Hutchison, Kansas.) Your musical credentials are impressive. I hope you'll be paying attention to the Lyric Request and Tune Request threads so you can help others here in their searches. Anyway, welcome to the Mudcat. Sarah (in favor of diversity) |
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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: Wesley S Date: 14 Mar 01 - 11:53 AM Mav - Nothing - I mean NOTHING is funkier than a Hammond B-3 with a Leslie. But transporting them sucks - would you agree? I sounds like you've played with some interesting people over the years. |
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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: mousethief Date: 14 Mar 01 - 11:39 AM Flattop, forgive me, but what makes you think I was referring to you?
The misunderstood, |
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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: flattop Date: 14 Mar 01 - 11:34 AM Sorry mousethief. I copied 20 harmonic from MAV's message then, in a hurry, pasted it in my message. I was just trying to have fun with harmonic and mouth disease. I don't mind being called names as long as folks are having fun. I must admit that I recently saw Little Hawk when he wasn't wearing one of his harmonica holders. This was the first time in the years that I've known him that I have seen him harmonicaless. He almost looked naked without them. |
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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: mousethief Date: 14 Mar 01 - 11:18 AM Boy, you push enough kids down on the playground that pretty soon people start calling you a bully, then you cry to your mama because people are calling names. Go figure. |
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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: flattop Date: 14 Mar 01 - 08:54 AM 20 harmonicas and so many words. Did you catch 20 harmonic and mouth disease from Little Hawk, MAV? |
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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: SINSULL Date: 14 Mar 01 - 08:35 AM Welcome MAV. For the record, in the very first MAV thread before you even made an appearance, several asked about your music. Maybe Uncle Jacques didn't pass it on to you. And Happy Birthday. |
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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: GUEST,The Yank Date: 14 Mar 01 - 08:24 AM Brilliant! The MAV has musical talent. Perhaps. Richard Wagner was a musical genius and also a thoroughly despicable excuse for a human being. Is there a lesson here? Perhaps. A fascinating and revealing thread. |
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Subject: RE: Welcome new mudcatter MAV From: wdyat12 Date: 14 Mar 01 - 03:58 AM I don't really want you or anyone else to make mincemeat out of me, but I certainly would enjoy hearing you play on one of Mudcat's Paltalk connections. You sound as if you could really shake 'em up. I dance on my woodstove when the music gets really hot. wdyat12 |
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