Subject: RE: Trench Songs of WW1 From: dick greenhaus Date: 29 Mar 01 - 04:54 PM Please. If you're going to mention a song, a) See if it's already in DigiTrad, and if not, b) post the damn words! |
Subject: RE: Trench Songs of WW1 From: Mrs.Duck Date: 29 Mar 01 - 12:59 PM A friend of mine sings a very moving song about a Canadian soldier who survives the war but loses his friends. I can only remember the last line which goes
And I will end my days in Montreal. [Vimy] If anyone knows that I'd love to know the words-a real tear jerker. Not sure if it was first or second war though. |
Subject: RE: Trench Songs of WW1 From: Bob Bolton Date: 29 Mar 01 - 09:26 AM G'day again, Frank Harte: I did the MIDItext of the tune (Bill Scott's version) ... and decided to post it in its own Lyr Add Suvla Bay (Suda Bay) Australian Regards, Bob Bolton |
Subject: RE: Trench Songs of WW1 From: Bob Bolton Date: 28 Mar 01 - 10:58 PM G'day again, Frank Harte: Sorry that i have not yet got back with tune. Mulga Wire (Bush Music Club Magazine finally off to printers last night ... I can get back to music queries. MIDItext soon! gnu: Lovely song - but written by Wee Eric in the late '60s ... and Bugsy, being in Australia, has probably heard it 297 times too many to weep, other than out of frustration! Regards, Bob Bolton |
Subject: Lyr Add: AND THE BAND PLAYED WALTZING MATILDA From: gnu Date: 24 Mar 01 - 07:09 PM Scanned the thread quickly, so I may have missed this tune and I apologize if it was cited above, but it is my favourite. A buddy of mine, now living in Iqaluit, Nunavut sings a soft, slow version of this tune and I weep every time I hear it. I've got him on tape from a kitchen session and just listened to it again, sob !
THE BAND PLAYED WALTZING MATILDA
Now when I was a young man I carried me pack |
Subject: RE: Trench Songs of WW1 From: NH Dave Date: 24 Mar 01 - 06:03 PM The wonders of the Internet. A quick search of several out of print book sellers reveals that it was collected by Martin Page, illustrated by Bill Tidy, and can be had from $9 US to $25 US depending on where I obtain it. Dave |
Subject: RE: Trench Songs of WW1 From: NH Dave Date: 24 Mar 01 - 05:19 PM Some years ago there was a book Kiss me Goodnight Sgt Major, with a foreword by Spike Milligan and cartoons by the chap that cartooned The Cloggies. British Catters can probably furnish the name of the person who compiled it from memory, but my recollection followed my copy of the book off the back of a lorry. This was a compilation of British Troop Songs and Poems of WWII, organized by campaign and location. This book suggests that many of the songs we have noted were popular in WWII as opposed to WWI, but the WWII versions may have been updated versions of the WWI song. For example, I have heard a version of Dinky-Di updated to cover the Vietnam War. It is my recollection that it had a version of Christmas in the Workhouse, relocated to Christmas in the Mess, with words like Paupers, Workhouse, Master and Veteran changed to Soldiers, Mess, Major, and Corporal. Then up stepped a sharp young corporal Small he was but bold as brass, "You can take your Christmas pudding, And you shove it up your arse!" Dave |
Subject: RE: Trench Songs of WW1 From: GUEST,Frank Harte Date: 23 Mar 01 - 06:43 PM Dear Bob, Thank's for taking the trouble to post the words to Suvla Bay....if yu get time I would very much like to hear the tune. I only have the air to the chorus which does not seem to fit the verses. Thank's again...........Frank PS. Is that Penguin Australian Songbook Book still in print and available.?? |
Subject: Lyr Add: SUVLA BAY From: Bob Bolton Date: 23 Mar 01 - 07:38 AM G'day again, Frank Harte, Here are the words - in their WWI version. The song was recycled in WWII to refer to Suda Bay, in Crete instead of Suvla Bay at Gallipoli. I have not had a chance to key in the music, so I haven't posted a MIDItext tune to accompany. If you need that, I will do it next week: I still have the Magazine to finish and tomorrow is taken up with a memorial / wake for our premier folksong collector John Meredith. The gathering is down in the Southern Highlands and I won't get back until the Loaded Dog Folk Club starts ...and I still have to finish the magazine ... Regard(les)s, Bob Bolton
Suvla Bay Bill Scott, in The Second Penguin Australian Songbook, says he learned the WWII version ("Suda Bay" and "August day") from an RN sailor in a Navy wet canteen in Brisbane in 1944. He says many older people, including his mother, knew the WWI version. |
Subject: RE: Trench Songs of WW1 From: Bob Bolton Date: 22 Mar 01 - 09:30 PM G'day Guest,Frank Harte, I have the words at home and can easily pop them into Mudcat tonight, if they are not already on the DigiTrad (and if I can squeeze it in between getting Mulga Wire, the Bush Music Club magazine close to printing stage for next Tuesday). It is a good old weepy ... and I am fascinated about Bill Scott's information that it was banned by the authorities and detrimental to morale! Regards, Bob bolton |
Subject: RE: Trench Songs of WW1 From: Irish sergeant Date: 22 Mar 01 - 08:20 PM There is a German Folk music sight that I found a couple of days ago that may very well help also. Has a lot of good stuff. Kindest reguards, Neil |
Subject: Lyr Add: THE POWER OF A CIGARETTE From: bill\sables Date: 22 Mar 01 - 07:10 PM THE POWER OF A CIGARETTE Writen in 1915 by British Soldiers 'Tis Yuletide out in the trenches, the night is cold and drear. With never a sign from our sturdy line, of the foeman who lurks so near. Our boys they are staunch and ready, though chilled to the bone and wet, But their eyes grow bright as they place a light to a Woodbine cigarette. Merely a pinch of tobacco encased in a paper shell, But it has a power in the midnight hour the soldier alone can tell For it whispers of dear old England; of home, and his heart's desire And it seems to show in its ruddy glow the gleam of a homestead fire. It brings to his mental vision the faces of those he loves, And he softly sighs as he clasps his eyes on his tattered and war torn gloves. It speaks to him too of friendship, and colleagues who ne'er forget And his heart grows glad as the soldier lad inhales from his cigarette 'Tis Yuletide out in the trenches, the enemy close at hand, But he quite forgets while his cigarettes whisper softly of Motherland. |
Subject: RE: Trench Songs of WW1 From: GUEST,Frank Harte Date: 22 Mar 01 - 06:50 PM To. Bob Bolton, You mentioned that you had a song called Suvla Bay in your reply to Bugsy, I would very much like to have a copy of the words of it if you could take the time to send them on. It is a very long time ago since I first heard it. The bits I remember are....
Why do I weep , why do I cry, |
Subject: RE: Trench Songs of WW1 From: Mr Red Date: 22 Mar 01 - 08:19 AM In my experience with the BBC it depends who you contact. It didn't work for me & I had the name of the particular producer to go on. |
Subject: RE: MY BUDDY/Trench Songs of WW1 From: GUEST,Gene Date: 21 Mar 01 - 11:49 PM additional lines to My Buddy - |
Subject: RE: Trench Songs of WW1 From: GUEST,Pete M at work Date: 21 Mar 01 - 07:34 PM Just a thought Bugsy, I believe that in the BBC TV series "The Great War" (I think) broadcast in 1964 there was a programme devoted to the songs and music of the troops. A quick squiz through the BBC site does show anything relevant but it may be worth giving them a bell. Pete M |
Subject: RE: Trench Songs of WW1 From: GUEST,Frank Harte Date: 21 Mar 01 - 04:45 PM Bugsy. You mentioned that you have the words to Suvla Bay....It is a long time ago since i first heard it in my father's pub...I have a verse and a chorus of it and i would very much like to have the complete words .... Frank Harte |
Subject: Lyr Add: MADEMOISELLE FROM ARMENTIERES From: GUEST,Joe Fineman Date: 21 Mar 01 - 02:14 PM Since, astonishingly, I don't see MADEMOISELLE FROM ARMENTIERES in DigiTrad, here are some verses I have happened on over the years:
Mademoiselle from Armentieres
A German officer crossed the Rhine.
O farmer, have you a daughter fair
He took her upstairs and into bed,
The first three months and all was well,
The general got the Croix de Guerre --
-- A remarkably insipid song, considering its notoriety.
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Subject: Lyr Add: ISN'T IT GRAND, BOYS^^^ From: GUEST,Irish Sergeant Date: 20 Mar 01 - 07:42 PM JcF: That is a great song! It's titled "ISN'T IT GRAND, BOYS" I have a version by the Clancy Brothers and I sing it at Reenactments (After hours)
Look at the Coffin,
Look at the Flowers,
Look at the mourners,
Look at the widow,
The third through the last lines get added to each verse. It's a marvelous song. Kindest regards, Neil |
Subject: RE: Trench Songs of WW1 From: Susanne (skw) Date: 20 Mar 01 - 07:03 PM Not a trench song either, but genuinely WW1: Nobody's mentioned Salonika so far. Then there is Christmas 1914, covering the same ground as Christmas in the Trenches. |
Subject: RE: Trench Songs of WW1 From: GUEST,jcf@world.std.com Date: 20 Mar 01 - 06:55 PM Let's not have a sniffle, Let's have a bloody good cry, And always remember, the sooner you live, The sooner you bloody well die. |
Subject: RE: Trench Songs of WW1 From: GUEST,Irish Sergeant Date: 20 Mar 01 - 03:24 PM Let Me know Bugsy: Uncle Jaque; If you go to www.geocities.com/the12thus/ A rough draft of the Civil War song book I've been working on is there. I'll be sending it to the publishers tommorow. Kindest reguards, Neil |
Subject: RE: Trench Songs of WW1 From: Mr Red Date: 20 Mar 01 - 12:41 PM "Kiss Me Goodnight, Sergeant Major" Or was that in the Eddy Cantor film about WW1? Not a trench song but- "Goodbye Dolly I must leave you. Goodbye Dolly Gray" hence - "Hello Dolly"
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Subject: RE: Trench Songs of WW1 From: Uncle Jaque Date: 20 Mar 01 - 12:07 PM Aww, gee; and I just saw a 1918 sheet-music booklet at an antique store with "For Our Boys In The Trenches" or something like that, with illustration of the brave lads in battle attire clutching their 1903 Springfields on the cover... and I passed it up! They wanted $5 for it, which I considered a bit much. Oh well.. I rather more folow music of the Civil War (1861-5) period, and actually have a "Civil War Musician's" Discussion Forum up on Delphi.
Havn't used it much lately (too much time in here!) but it picks up a thread every so often. We keep a few articles around for future refferance, or for the curious to dig around in. Come check it out if any of ye want to diverge a bit into that particular genre.
Uncle Jaque, Fifer, 3rd Maine Volunteer Infantry
Field Music (Fife & Drum Corps) |
Subject: RE: Trench Songs of WW1 From: Bugsy Date: 19 Mar 01 - 07:50 PM Irish Sergeant. At the moment, it's not. I am collecting the songs for a workshop I intend to add to my repertoire for festivals. The trouble is that there has been so much response, it will take me some time to get through the postings here and figure out which songs to ask for lyrics and tunes to. However I will get back to everyone as soon as I can find the time to "Get down to it" so to speak. In the meantime, Thanks to everyone who has posted so far. CHeers Bugsy |
Subject: RE: Trench Songs of WW1 From: The Walrus Date: 19 Mar 01 - 07:11 PM How about, all on the theme, I want to be elsewhere: "Far, Far from Wipers (I long to be)" - or it's longer version "Sing Me to Sleep"/;"Soldiers' Lullaby" "Take Me Back to Dear Old Blighty" (The CEF had a version as "Take Me Back to Good Old Canada") "I Want to Go Home" The Middle East Lament [a.k.a. The Boys in Palestine] ("We came from Turkey's Mountains to Egypt's burning strand") On Food: "When the Stew Is on the Table" "Jam For Tea" [or Ode to Tickler] "Tickler's Jam" "Plum and Apple" Any Use? Regards Walrus |
Subject: RE: Trench Songs of WW1 From: Irish sergeant Date: 19 Mar 01 - 03:05 PM Bugsy: How is the research coming? Irish Sergeant |
Subject: RE: Trench Songs of WW1 From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 19 Mar 01 - 01:57 PM Have I missed it, or has no-one posted (Pack Up Your Troubles in Your Old Kit Bag and) Smile, Smile, Smile!? Also We Are Fred Karno's Army and Far Far From Wipers. [a.k.a. Sing Me to Sleep] Soldier on. Keith. |
Subject: RE: Trench Songs of WW1 From: Bugsy Date: 18 Mar 01 - 08:04 PM Thanks to everyone who has posted so far, I'm overwhelmed! Cheers Bugsy |
Subject: RE: Trench Songs of WW1 From: Mr Red Date: 18 Mar 01 - 07:33 AM Lonesome EJ Call me a pedant. Surely "buddy" started out life as "brother". The first try-outs of the play used "brother". Broadway impressarios were happy with that lyric but were fearful of a backlash from those who could actually afford tickets then. Hence the change to "buddy". It was a hard hitting political song and for a political play. They chose to make it well known, so allowed some dilution. The message is still there.
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Subject: Lyr Add: BROTHER, CAN YOU SPARE A DIME?^^^ From: Lonesome EJ Date: 17 Mar 01 - 06:17 PM BUDDY CAN YOU SPARE A DIME?
SPOKEN PART: They used to tell me I was building a dream
BEGIN SINGING:
VERSE 2: Once I built a tower to the sun
CHORUS: Once in Khaki suits, gee we looked swell
VERSE 3: Hey, don't you remember, they called me Al
CHORUS: Once in Khaki suits, gee we looked swell
VERSE 4: Hey, don't you remember, they called me Al? Recorded during the height of the depression in 1932, this song recounted the despair of the working men, and particularly the World War 1 Veterans, who found themselves begging on the streets |
Subject: RE: Trench Songs of WW1 From: Irish sergeant Date: 17 Mar 01 - 05:22 PM Bugsy; How about "Going to Germany", "I'll Tell You Where They Were", "That Crazy War" and "I Want to Go Home"? Most of them seem to be American. I know the last one is and if you can't find the lyrics elsewhere I have them. It just took a little digging. kindest regards, Neil |
Subject: RE: Trench Songs of WW1 From: Matt_R Date: 17 Mar 01 - 03:38 PM My great Uncle Henry (who was blind, and went through WWI holding onto the belt of the guy in front of him) said that "Don't You Laugh As The Hearse Goes By" was a very popular song to sing when he was in the trenches. |
Subject: RE: Trench Songs of WW1 From: Irish sergeant Date: 17 Mar 01 - 03:30 PM Cranky Yankee: Irish American with Scots,English and Swis german sprinkled in for good measure in real life. I picked Irish Sergeant as my nom de plume because I am a Civil War re-enactor and I portray a son of Erin who came over to the U.S. to get away from the famine. My rank in our Civil War unit is first sergeant. I was going to respond on the Civil War thread but it seems to have disappeared and this one is still here. Happy Saint Patrick's Day to all, Neil (Irish Sergeant) |
Subject: RE: Trench Songs of WW1 From: Mr Red Date: 17 Mar 01 - 12:28 PM Bugsy
Words as transcribed from archive TV interview with Robert Graves.
Do you want to find the General?
Do you want to find the Captain? Robert Graves made reference only to more verses. When I now sing this, I fill the intervening verses with the better known verses. e.g.:
Brigadier - Gadding around in Gay Paree. Robert Graves then finished by stating without any hesitation the last verse
Do you want to find your sweetheart? |
Subject: RE: Trench Songs of WW1 From: GUEST,Ketil Date: 16 Mar 01 - 11:32 PM Here is a brief snippet I learned from a friend who learned it from an ANZAC vet: (tune Waltzing Matilda of course!)
Fightin' the Kaiser, |
Subject: RE: Trench Songs of WW1 From: Micca Date: 16 Mar 01 - 01:53 PM Bugsy, you could try finding the reprints of the "Wipers Times" which was a sort of WW1 underground newspaper in "the Salient", I saw a bound set of reprints in a library years ago, in London. It had poems and lyrics of songs in it as I recall.. might be a useful source of background, try here http://www.adam-matthew-publications.co.uk/COLLECT/P119.HTM or try and find this The Wipers Times. A Complete Facsmile of the Famous World War One Trench Newspaper (London: Peter Davies, 1973). 940.4144 WIP |
Subject: RE: Trench Songs of WW1 From: Bert Date: 16 Mar 01 - 12:16 PM Here's a Harry Lauder site |
Subject: RE: Trench Songs of WW1 From: Bugsy Date: 16 Mar 01 - 12:11 PM This is all coming thick and fast. I will try to get back to everyone with either a post here or PM whichever is more appropriate, though it will take some time to go through everything. In the meantime - keep up the good work. Thanks a million! CHeers Bugsy |
Subject: RE: Trench Songs of WW1 From: dick greenhaus Date: 16 Mar 01 - 12:03 PM Mademoiselle from Armentières may have been the best-known WWI song from the infantry, but Bless 'Em All was WWI RAF and Destroyer Song was US Navy. My own pet is Just Behind the Battle, Mother, a parody of a song from the then-recent Civil War. Check out @WWI in DigiTrad |
Subject: RE: Trench Songs of WW1 From: Auxiris Date: 16 Mar 01 - 11:58 AM Bugsy, I found a couple of poems in a WW1 B.E.F. Times facsimile reprint that I bought in a flea market here in France that would probably make good songs if tunes were fitted to them. If you're interested in them, let me know and I'll either post them here or PM them to you. I had already posted at least one of them in another thread, but, unfortunately do not know how to do a blue clicky that would whisk you there instantly. cheers, Aux
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Subject: Lyr Add: THE AUSTRALAISE From: The Walrus Date: 16 Mar 01 - 11:57 AM Here are a few "Squaddies' Song" of the Great War for you. We Are Fred Karno's Army (TUNE: The Church's One Foundation) Just an example of the British Army trait of self mockery (although some would say that's just getting in first) Aprés La Guerre (TUNE: Sous les Ponts de Paris) A piece in "dog" French We've Had No Beer (TUNE: Abide With Me) After a long march and no "wet" canteen.... At the Halt on the Left (Form Platoon) (TUNE: Three Cheers for the Red White and Blue) Yes! And We Can Do It / Breaking Out of Barracks (TUNE: In and Out the Window) We're 'Ere Because (TUNE: Auld Lang Syne) Authority's motto always seems to be "Hurry Up and Wait"; this was merely "Tommy's" response Raining/Grousing (TUNE: Holy, Holy, Holy) When This Lousy War Is Over (TUNE: Take It to the Lord in Prayer) Old Joe Whip (TUNE: Ballad of Casey Jones) For a slightly odder one, here is "The Australaise", originally written in 1908 by C. J. Dennis, revised in 1915, dedicated to (and widely distributed among) the A.I.F. (I only have one verse and the chorus. The blanks have been left in.) THE AUSTRALAISE (TUNE: Onward Christian Soldiers)
Fellers of Australia,
CHORUS: Get a b_____ move on, Any use ? Regards Walrus |
Subject: RE: Trench Songs of WW1 From: Gervase Date: 16 Mar 01 - 10:10 AM At school we had a strange version of Mademoiselle from Armentières, not a million miles from the original, singing the praises of flatulence. Maybe this is one for 'Spaw... |
Subject: RE: Trench Songs of WW1 From: Amos Date: 16 Mar 01 - 09:24 AM Risque meant something different back then. The line from "Mademoiselle" I learned at the point where Ma's censorship cut in was "She never washes her underwear". |
Subject: Lyr Add: GEE MA I WANNA GO HOME From: GUEST,Bard Judith Date: 16 Mar 01 - 03:52 AM Dear Bugsy - not sure if this is a WW1 or WW2 song - and it is already in the Mudcat database - but you might wanna list this under Alternative Lyrics? Note, for example, the area-specific line added in the chorus which pegs this as a Canadian version ... but also note the reference to a Hollywood actress... :) GEE MA I WANNA GO HOME
They say that in the Army
(Chorus) Oh, I don't want no more of Army life
They say that in the army (Chorus)
They say that in the army (Chorus) |
Subject: RE: Trench Songs of WW1 From: CRANKY YANKEE Date: 16 Mar 01 - 03:32 AM Dear Irish Sergeant. Are you an IRISH sergeant or an IRISH AMERICAN sergeant? If you live in the Southeastern part of the U. S. A. you probably haven't heard the really great "Civil War Songs". Usually, the losing side in a Civil (?) War has all the good songs. Such was not the case in the "War Between the States" This, of course, is only my opinion, you may not agree. I think "Marching Through Georgia", Henry Clay Work's masterpiece, (doesn't get much play in the South) is the best of the lot. However, since Joe Offer rightfully pointed out that one should stick to the subject of each thread, I'll start a new one entitled "American Civil War Songs. See you there Sarge. |
Subject: RE: Trench Songs of WW1 From: CRANKY YANKEE Date: 16 Mar 01 - 03:11 AM It would be helpful if these song lyrics were laid out the way they were submitted instead of one line after the other. in a single paragraph. it's not so easy for an amateur (and some of us pro's)to stick to the metre without each line being a single line. I don't know if I said exactly wht I meant, I hope it's understood. Anyway, the poem I quoted, "Christmas in the workhouse" is not a parody of John McCutcheon's "Christmas in the Trenches" I'm truly sorry that I got the titles mixed up. The one I was referring to is altogether different, here it is.
CHRISTMAS IN THE HAREM
It were Christmas in the harem, all them eunuchs was hangin round, |
Subject: RE: Trench Songs of WW1 From: DougR Date: 16 Mar 01 - 01:56 AM Bugsy: Sorry. I thought everybody probably knew the song, "My Buddy." I have to vamp, I'm doing this from memory. Also, I haven't mastered the art of posting lyrics so bear with me. "My Buddy"
Nights are long, since you went away, DougR |
Subject: RE: Trench Songs of WW1 From: Mike Byers Date: 15 Mar 01 - 09:17 PM I thought "The Bells of Hell Go Ting-A-Ling-A-Ling" dated from WWII (it was popular with RAF pilots) but I could be wrong. Anyway, we were still singing it in Laos in 1969. Some songs, for one reason or another, just endure. |
Subject: RE: Trench Songs of WW1 From: Bugsy Date: 15 Mar 01 - 07:35 PM ............Especially with any background information about the songs. Cheers B8gsy |
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