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Lyr Req: The Bricklayer's Lament

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WHY PADDY'S NOT AT WORK TODAY (Excuse Note)


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Peter 15 Oct 96 - 11:05 AM
jkodn@prolifics.com 15 Oct 96 - 12:19 PM
Peter 16 Oct 96 - 10:37 AM
Ian Fraser 16 Oct 96 - 07:24 PM
Peter 17 Oct 96 - 11:05 AM
fdavis@newcomm.net 20 Oct 96 - 07:27 AM
Simon 21 Oct 96 - 07:58 AM
dick greenhaus 21 Oct 96 - 06:56 PM
Albert.hansell@bentley.com 22 Oct 96 - 08:12 AM
dick greenhaus 23 Oct 96 - 05:26 AM
Peter 23 Oct 96 - 12:26 PM
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Alex 05 Nov 96 - 03:43 AM
Bill Foster 06 Nov 96 - 09:13 AM
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Davy 07 Nov 96 - 12:42 PM
Davy "again" OOOOOOOOOPS! 07 Nov 96 - 12:47 PM
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Peter 11 Nov 96 - 10:14 AM
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Subject: Lyric:The Bricklayer's Lament
From: Peter
Date: 15 Oct 96 - 11:05 AM

Does anyone know the lyric or who recorded this song?


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Subject: RE: Lyric:The Bricklayer's Lament
From: jkodn@prolifics.com
Date: 15 Oct 96 - 12:19 PM

Is this "Why Paddy's Not at Work Today?"


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Subject: RE: Lyric:The Bricklayer's Lament
From: Peter
Date: 16 Oct 96 - 10:37 AM

Re:Is this "Why Paddy's Not at Work Today?"

That sounds right, I think that was the last line in the song. Do you have any idea who recorded it and if the lyrics are around anywhere


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Subject: RE: Lyric:The Bricklayer's Lament
From: Ian Fraser
Date: 16 Oct 96 - 07:24 PM

I have a version of this song by the Corries, "The Compact Collection" CD, Lismor Digital LCOM 9006 Unfortunately they do not give the lyric. They list Cooksey/Hoffnung/Murphy-Cop Con after the title, so those may be the authors.

Let me know if you cannot find the lyric and I'll transcribe it.

Ian (frasers@erols.com)


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Subject: RE: Lyric:The Bricklayer's Lament
From: Peter
Date: 17 Oct 96 - 11:05 AM

Thanks to all. I found the lyrics under that name searching under "irish music lyrics" If anyone is interested I can pass along the actual site. The version I heard was a solo rendition titled "The Bricklayer's Lament" but I will see if I can find the Corries version


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Subject: RE: Lyric:The Bricklayer's Lament
From: fdavis@newcomm.net
Date: 20 Oct 96 - 07:27 AM

I have the lyrics for "Why Paddy's not at work today". I can e-mail it to you.


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Subject: RE: Lyric:The Bricklayer's Lament
From: Simon
Date: 21 Oct 96 - 07:58 AM

The Dubliners have also done a version of this song.


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Subject: RE: Lyric:The Bricklayer's Lament
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 21 Oct 96 - 06:56 PM

Words are in the Digital Tradition. Try searching on "Sick Note" or simply on "bricks"


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Subject: RE: Lyric:The Bricklayer's Lament
From: Albert.hansell@bentley.com
Date: 22 Oct 96 - 08:12 AM

There are also lyrics in 'Rise Up Singing'. I have a BBC recording of Gerard Hoffnung's address to the Oxford Union in which he tells the story with absolutely perfect timing. Is Digital Tradition interested in a version that is not in song?

The story is also an urban myth which crops up from time to time quoted as an actual event. I don't think that anyone has been able to trace it back before Hoffnung.

Bert.


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Subject: RE: Lyric:The Bricklayer's Lament
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 23 Oct 96 - 05:26 AM

I encountered it in The Reader's Digest in the early 1940's. There was an interesting point to it that Hoffnung and those who came later seem to have lost: It was presented as a letter to an insurance company, seeking compensation for seven distinct accidents associated with the incident.


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Subject: RE: Lyric:The Bricklayer's Lament
From: Peter
Date: 23 Oct 96 - 12:26 PM

1940 WOW I didn't think that it could be that old. By the way I would be interested to hear even just a short clip of the Hoffnung version if Albert could record & post it.


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Subject: RE: Lyric:The Bricklayer's Lament
From: albert.hansell@bentley.com
Date: 23 Oct 96 - 12:36 PM

I don't have sound on my machine but I'll send you a cassette of that part along with a copy of the cover.

Bert.


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Subject: RE: Lyric:The Bricklayer's Lament
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Date: 04 Nov 96 - 02:02 PM

Clancy Brothers also recorded it


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Subject: RE: Lyric:The Bricklayer's Lament
From: Alex
Date: 05 Nov 96 - 03:43 AM

I think the song was written by Noel Murphy. I first heard it around 1974 at a BBC (Scotland) TV taping of a McCalmans show when they introduced Noel and credited him with the song. The gag/insurance letter/Hoffnung thing had been around for a long time before that.


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Subject: RE: Lyric:The Bricklayer's Lament
From: Bill Foster
Date: 06 Nov 96 - 09:13 AM

I worked with a British traditional dance team at the Museum of Appalachia last year (I'm a banjo player), and one of them told me that "Why Paddy's not at work today" was originally performed as a music hall recitative many many years ago. I have forgotten the music-hall comedian's name, but my British friend seemed to think that it was a very old piece.


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Subject: RE: Lyric:The Bricklayer's Lament
From: fmeter@aegon.com
Date: 06 Nov 96 - 11:47 AM

It really is an urban myth... I work for an insurance company and have seen the letter floating around over the years... classic urban myth stuff... usually accomanied with a story that it comes from someone in the claims deprtment


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Subject: RE: Lyric:The Bricklayer's Lament
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Date: 07 Nov 96 - 05:43 AM

I have a tape of Noel Murphy in concert where he claims that the song is based on a performance by Gerard Hoffnung. This leaves the authorship a bit ambiguous (did Noel actually do the basing?). Probably.

Tony Fry


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Subject: RE: Lyric:The Bricklayer's Lament
From: Davy
Date: 07 Nov 96 - 12:42 PM

the words for the "why Paddys not at work today" can be found at htp://www.cs.hut.fi/~zaphod/search/lyrics/why_paddys_not_at_work_excuse_note


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Subject: RE: Lyric:The Bricklayer's Lament
From: Davy "again" OOOOOOOOOPS!
Date: 07 Nov 96 - 12:47 PM

I just tried it and now it doesnt work SORRY leave out the /why_ paddys_not_at_work_excuse_note bit and you will get it


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Subject: RE: Lyric:The Bricklayer's Lament
From: Bill Day extree@erols.com
Date: 07 Nov 96 - 02:19 PM

I saw it in some magazine 5 or 6 yrs.ago as being a 'true' story (no music)about an apple picker in Nova Scotia!!Apples. baskets, limbs, .etc substituted where necessary)


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Subject: RE: Lyric:The Bricklayer's Lament
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 07 Nov 96 - 05:37 PM

Far be it from us to steer folks away from other sources, but the words are in the DT. Search for [sick note] or brick.


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Subject: RE: Lyric:The Bricklayer's Lament
From: Peter
Date: 11 Nov 96 - 10:14 AM

It's nice to see so much response to a query. Suffice to say I have long ago found the words to the song, now however I am curious. Dick Greenhaus says the lyrics are on DT, are we searching the same database I can't find it with a "brick" search nor a "sick note" search. Am I doing something wrong?


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Subject: RE: Lyric:The Bricklayer's Lament
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 11 Nov 96 - 09:41 PM

Hi- Sadly, the vagaries of spelling and peoples' memories make a search at least as much of an art as a science. This song was submitted as "Why Paddy's Not At Work Today" (The Excuse Note). A search for "bricks" would have turned it up, as would a search for "note". Or "Paddy".

There are a couple of tricks to help things along. One is to use wildcards: "brick*" would have searched for "brick", "bricks" or "bricklayer". Another useful trick is to use combination requests: brick* note. That would produce 10 hits, including the one you wanted.

Try to search for odd phrases or words you remember: it doesn't matter where they fall in the song.

dick


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Subject: RE: Lyric:The Bricklayer's Lament
From: Peter
Date: 12 Nov 96 - 02:26 PM

Thanks Found it!!!!


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Subject: RE: Lyric:The Bricklayer's Lament
From: mryan@server1.rtc-athlone.ie
Date: 04 Dec 96 - 12:41 PM

Don't suppose anyone reads threads this far back but anyway:

The copyright belongs to Pat Cooksey - and he has the court decision to prove it, as far as I know!

Martin Ryan

p.s. On a similar line - any words to "When Paddy stole the Rope"?


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Subject: RE: Lyric:The Bricklayer's Lament
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Date: 04 Dec 96 - 03:08 PM


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Subject: RE: Lyric:The Bricklayer's Lament
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 04 Dec 96 - 07:32 PM

Hi Martin- do you have any details about the (presumably challenged) copyright?


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Subject: RE: Lyric:The Bricklayer's Lament
From:
Date: 05 Dec 96 - 05:22 AM

Dick

I met Cooksey recently (he lives in Clare in Ireland) and he mentioned it in passing.

If you're worried about him chasing you - it's unlikely!

Best Wishes


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Subject: RE: Lyric:The Bricklayer's Lament
From:
Date: 05 Dec 96 - 05:33 AM

Dick

I met Cooksey recently (he lives in Clare in Ireland) and he mentioned it in passing.

If you're worried about him chasing you - it's unlikely!

Incidentally, I have a collection of about 150 songs in a Mac Filemaker database. Probably half of them already appear in DT. Ican let you have a copy, maybe exported in MS Word or such. Interested?

Best Wishes


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Subject: RE: Lyric:The Bricklayer's Lament
From: Martin Ryan
Date: 05 Dec 96 - 05:36 AM

DIck

Sorry aboutthe anonymous notes - I'm not awake this morning.

email address is: mryan@server1.rtc-athlone.ie

Martin


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Subject: RE: Lyric:The Bricklayer's Lament
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 06 Dec 96 - 11:09 PM

Hi Martin- I'm not really concerned with being hunted down and stoned by the copyright vigilantes--I'd just like to get attributions right.

And PLEASE send in anything you know that we're missing. MSWORD is fine; ASCII(or text) is universal. dick


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Subject: RE: Lyric:The Bricklayer's Lament
From: Martin Ryan
Date: 09 Dec 96 - 08:22 AM

Dick

I'm having problems with the e-mail address for DT. Can you send me a message at mryan@rtc-athlone.ie, please. I'll then try sending file as attachment.

Also - is there an FTP site from which I can download a MAC version?

Regards

Martin Ryan


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Subject: RE: Lyric:The Bricklayer's Lament
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 09 Dec 96 - 09:26 PM

Hi Martin- Received your file--I'll uuuncode it as soon as I get a chance. There's a minor problem with the MAC download--it should be cleared up in a day or so. dick


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