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Nemesis 17 Mar 01 - 06:52 PM
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Nemesis 18 Mar 01 - 11:36 AM
GUEST,leeneia 19 Mar 01 - 10:36 AM
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Subject: Help! Repertoire suggestions?
From: Nemesis
Date: 17 Mar 01 - 06:52 PM

Help!!

I'm a (non-proper) singer in a 3-part harmony acappella group: There's a argument going down here between artistic perfection and "SOMETHING TO flippin' well sing!"

Dearest Mudcatters! Do you have/know any 3 part harmony adaptable songs we can sing? I am stuck in the middle between trying to sing 2 parts of a Cooper, Boyess, Simpson song and flippin nursery rhymes - I don't know songs - what do you suggest please???

Love and kisses, Hille


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Subject: RE: Help! Repertoire suggestions?
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 18 Mar 01 - 12:07 AM

A nice, competent lady named Karen Myers has done a good book called Harmonious Companions which has vocal harmonizations (two, three and four-part) to one hundred traditional songs (good ones, too). Published by Perkunas Press, 7 Currituck Rd., Newtown, CT, US.


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Subject: RE: Help! Repertoire suggestions?
From: Nemesis
Date: 18 Mar 01 - 06:08 AM

Dear Dick,

I will rush down my local music store tomorrow and see if I can order it.

Bless you

We have also sung some contemporary stuff, e.g. "Brilliant Mistake" by Elvis Costello (will probably be our swansong at this rate!) MOstly, seem to be plagiarising "Young Tradition" A few Copper family songs and one odd Steeleye number....

Thanks again,

Any more ideas anyone? Have you heard a song you think'd sound nice sung unaccompanied?

Cheers, Hille


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Subject: RE: Help! Repertoire suggestions?
From: Mr Red
Date: 18 Mar 01 - 07:22 AM

Have a humorous song or two up your sleeve. Eric Bogle does a harmony or two on "Somebody's moggy". And out-of-rhythm asides work well with groups, time "part variation" rather than key if you will.

The Artisan repertoire might yield songs that appeal. They are a bit too polished, I feel, but you don't have to copy their rendering too closely.


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Subject: RE: Help! Repertoire suggestions?
From: Nemesis
Date: 18 Mar 01 - 11:36 AM

Oooh! Artisan we've had a look at their stuff - someone even suggested we sounded like them (more to do with 2 female, 1 male voice I think than reality!! - yes, very polished!!

Humourous songs - does anyone know the chords to "Dead Dog Scrumpy" ? I'd just like to sing it as a tribute to my old mate Trevor Crozier.

Keep it coming - please noy out of the nursey rhyme woods yet! Although we are going for a quick burst of King Arthur's Servants this afternoon.

Cheers, Hille


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Subject: RE: Help! Repertoire suggestions?
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 19 Mar 01 - 10:36 AM

1. Well, there are the approximately 1,000,000 Christian hymans in the western world...and more elsewhere.

2. Go to your public library and look in the music books. 784's, I believe.


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Subject: RE: Help! Repertoire suggestions?
From: GUEST,Matt_R
Date: 19 Mar 01 - 10:45 AM

1,000,000 Christian hymans? NEVER HAPPENED!! Lol!


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Subject: RE: Help! Repertoire suggestions?
From: Mr Red
Date: 19 Mar 01 - 12:21 PM

Shanties - it mixes-up the reprtoire. What about the Tesco Shanty - as performed by the Ranting Sleazos. I have a Knittershanty (knitting and sailors - it works believe me) that benefitts from a male voice for some verses and female for others. Chorus with three voices in turn is very effective.

Stan Hugill reputedly hated harmonies but gave-in because the audience can take over and there are more of them.

Having seen archive footage of Stan and a few mates demonstrating shanties they needed all their puff hauling. So harmonies and a lot of the superfluous conjunctions, articles, and even adjectives can be considered modern bastardizations. But it's what the audience want!


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Subject: RE: Help! Repertoire suggestions?
From: Kim C
Date: 19 Mar 01 - 05:44 PM

What is this Knittershanty? I am a knitter so this would be of very great interest to me.


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Subject: RE: Help! Repertoire suggestions?
From: mousethief
Date: 19 Mar 01 - 06:00 PM

I suggest getting CD's by Bok, Tricket, Muir (a wonderful New England singing trio -- lots of sea stuff) or by the Four Bitchin' Babes.

Alex


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Subject: RE: Help! Repertoire suggestions?
From: Nemesis
Date: 20 Mar 01 - 04:12 AM

Four Bitchin' Babes sounds pretty apt - like Three Bickerin' Bandmembers.

We've done some "Christian" songs notably "Living in Beaulah Land" : Now that caused in-jokes down here on the Sussex coast, the question on every one's (well nearly)lips is "Where IS Beaulah Land?" I reckon it's up the M23 near IKEA.

Also, staggering through "Wondrous Love" They say the Devil has all the best tunes - well, I beg to differ!!

Off to the Library today!! (and the Sea Shanties suggestion is timely, thanks.)

Thanks for all the ideas - I will truly amaze (and tick off) my fellow singers with having some ideas to offer!!

Love and Kisses, Hille


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Subject: RE: Help! Repertoire suggestions?
From: Nemesis
Date: 20 Mar 01 - 04:17 AM

Oh, Mr Red - the Tesco Shanty knitting shanty sounds fun - any help on that please??

Cheers,

Hille x


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Subject: Repertoire suggestion
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 20 Mar 01 - 04:25 AM

The band Tamarack has nearly always been a 3 piece and every now and again you'll find a really cool a capella song on one of their CD's...

Frobisher Bay is one that first leaps to mind... A lovely little song about freezing to death on a whaling ship...

Frobisher Bay

Cold is the arctic sea
Far are your arms from me
Long will this winter be
Frozen in Frobisher Bay
Frozen in Frobisher Bay

"One more whale," our captain cried
"One more whale and well beat the ice."
But the winter star was in the sky
The sea's were rough the winds were high

Cold is the arctic sea
Far are your arms from me
Long will this winter be
Frozen in Frobisher Bay
Frozen in Frobisher Bay

Deep were the crashing waves
That tore our whalers mast away
Dark are these sunless days
Waiting for the ice to break

Cold is the arctic sea
Far are your arms from me
Long will this winter be
Frozen in Frobisher Bay
Frozen in Frobisher Bay

Strange is a whaler's fate
To be saved from the raging waves
Only to waste away
Frozen in this lonely grave

Cold is the arctic sea
Far are your arms from me
Long will this winter be
Frozen in Frobisher Bay
Frozen in Frobisher Bay


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Subject: RE: Help! Repertoire suggestions?
From: KitKat
Date: 20 Mar 01 - 06:13 AM

How about 'Bad Moon Rising' - unaccompanied would be an interesting variation on the way Battlefield did it.


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Subject: RE: Help! Repertoire suggestions?
From: Mr Red
Date: 20 Mar 01 - 08:25 AM

Kim C, Challis

Check your messages. Maybe I should have some MP3's on my web site (cresby.com) but I'd rather be folking than figure how to do it. But I am stirring.........

Tesco Shanty I vaguely know in bits but the Ranting Sleazos did it at Bromyard maybe 9 years ago. Search for them.

eg

verse line , "cleaning, sweeping", verse line - "dust dust away", verse 2 lines, "and were all bound for Tescos in the morning". I guess Walmart would fit equally. & there was a verse referring to sons as "feckless spotty crew".


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Subject: RE: Help! Repertoire suggestions?
From: Nemesis
Date: 21 Mar 01 - 07:44 PM

Now "Bad Moon Rising" that IS interesting - will go and listen to that carefully. Actually, as a non-music theorist all this diatonic/chromatic chord stuff puzzles me - so I jest sing what I'm told! Actually, we do some enjoyable stuff (but I really have a secret yearning to be more of a rock chick (shock, horror - don't tell the rest of the band) - of course this may not be the same song I'm thinking of - but it's put me on a train of thought.

Cheers,

Mr Red - have emailed you!!


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Subject: RE: Help! Repertoire suggestions?
From: Callie at work
Date: 21 Mar 01 - 08:59 PM

Hi Challis

I sing in an a cappella vocal trio also. Our website:

http://www.geocities.com/vienna/studio/3165/

Always keen to swap arrangements, especially if you have one of "Brilliant Mistake".

We do everything from Early music to folk and pop.

It's a strange synchronicity that I happen to be listening to "King of America" at the moment ... freaky eh?!

PM me if you want to 'talk' more!

Callie


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Subject: RE: Help! Repertoire suggestions?
From: GUEST,JohnB
Date: 22 Mar 01 - 12:44 PM

I also have an a cappella group of three, 2f 1m. and a double quartet of about 8 of us. Some of the early stuff we do is in three parts. Pastime with good company, Henry VIII, Blow thy horne hunter, Thomas Whytehorne, Gaudete, anon. Some rounds are also in three parts. Oh and catches are often in three parts too, ie Cakes and Ale, Purcell. I would have to think to get any more. We also do a lot of English folky stuff just freely harmonized, it works for us. Good luck. JohnB


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Subject: RE: Help! Repertoire suggestions?
From: GUEST,Barry T not at home
Date: 22 Mar 01 - 03:26 PM

Use your favourite search engine to scan the web for the keywords SATB and TTBB, which are abbreviations for choir voice arrangements. The first one is soprano / alto / tenor / base, and the second (I think) is tenor / tenor / baritone / base.

Some of the links you find will lead to free on-line vocal arrangements of traditional stuff; others will lead to retailers of such arrangements, but the prices are quite economical from what I've seen.


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Subject: RE: Help! Repertoire suggestions?
From: GUEST,JohnB
Date: 23 Mar 01 - 12:27 PM

If theat works, you could also try SSA which is Sop, Sop, Alto. JohnB


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Subject: RE: Help! Repertoire suggestions?
From: LR Mole
Date: 23 Mar 01 - 12:40 PM

"Happiness Runs In a Circular Motion" from Donovan's Barabajagal album. Did somebody already say Roches? Chenille Sisters.Kate & Anna Mcgarrigle.New York Voices' arrangements of Paul Simon's songs."Is That the Way You Look"--J. Taylor. "Iko Iko" by the Dixie Cups.


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Subject: RE: Help! Repertoire suggestions?
From: Nemesis
Date: 26 Mar 01 - 04:49 AM

Wow! Thanks for all the help...I have had no phone line for 4-5 days - so just got back on line to look at all this!

Callie - will e-speak soon when I work out how to PM!

Will put all this to the band - Anyone down Worthing, Sussex, UK area catch us at the new folk/roots, etc club we are opening at the Charles Dickens PH Heene Road on April 6 7.30 for 8pm

Thanks everyone - this is very great/helpful

Hille


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Subject: RE: Help! Repertoire suggestions?
From: Deckman
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 01:12 PM

I'll venture to jump in here wuth a suggestion. No matter what kind of songs you are learning, try setting up a personal goal. You might, for example, tell yourself that you MUST learn ONE NEW SONG a day. It's not hard. Then at the end of a week, you've got seven new songs. Years ago, when I was living (starving ?) off my guitar, that was my goal. It worked for me and it might work for you. bob(deckman)nelson


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Subject: RE: Help! Repertoire suggestions?
From: foggers
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 02:24 PM

Hmm a song a day might be a bit to big a challenge! When I was aiming to get back into performing I worked on a song each week. I was quite systematic about listing a repertoire, memorising the lyrics, learning the tune and working out accompaniments. It worked really well and it was great to be able to chart progress very clearly.


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Subject: RE: Help! Repertoire suggestions?
From: Gurney
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 03:20 PM

The Swingle Singers. The Harvard Crocodilians. Barbershop quartets.
The Andrews Sisters, everyone sings along to their songs. Jake Thackray. As Mr. Red said, Eric Bogle.


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Subject: RE: Help! Repertoire suggestions?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 07 Nov 11 - 12:48 PM

The Devil's Interval are another good source - and anything Watersons.

What's all this "sing what you're told" business? Why not just get together, do what you want to do, until a line or so stick?


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Subject: RE: Help! Repertoire suggestions?
From: Mo the caller
Date: 08 Nov 11 - 07:33 AM

Is the group still together? has there been a 10th birthday concert? CD even?


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Subject: RE: Help! Repertoire suggestions?
From: BobKnight
Date: 01 Nov 12 - 09:15 PM

Check out the Wilsons, or Irish acapella group, The Voice Squad. Their rendition of Banks Of The Bann, is particularly good. You'll find them on youtube.


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Subject: RE: Help! Repertoire suggestions?
From: Jack Campin
Date: 01 Nov 12 - 10:18 PM

Singing alchemical recipes in three parts:

Atalanta Fugiens

You could project the pictures (reproduced in Godwin's book) while singing them.


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Subject: RE: Help! Repertoire suggestions?
From: GUEST,Stim
Date: 01 Nov 12 - 11:32 PM

This thread was started eleven years ago. How did things worked out, Nemesis?


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Subject: RE: Help! Repertoire suggestions?
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 02 Nov 12 - 07:53 AM

If you have a soloist (male or female) then try this for size The Rosebud in June.. Steeleye Span.


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Subject: RE: Help! Repertoire suggestions?
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 02 Nov 12 - 07:57 AM

There are other Steeleye Span songs that might fit the bill "All Around My Hat" for instance.


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Subject: RE: Help! Repertoire suggestions?
From: PHJim
Date: 02 Nov 12 - 10:11 AM

Zen Gospel Singing


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