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GUEST,BigDaddy 23 Mar 01 - 12:50 AM
Sorcha 23 Mar 01 - 12:53 AM
katlaughing 23 Mar 01 - 12:57 AM
Stewie 23 Mar 01 - 03:47 AM
Midchuck 23 Mar 01 - 06:55 AM
Barbara Shaw 23 Mar 01 - 08:27 AM
Barbara Shaw 23 Mar 01 - 08:42 AM
Stewie 23 Mar 01 - 09:17 AM
GUEST,Midchuck upstairs fka EMG 23 Mar 01 - 10:04 AM
Willie-O 23 Mar 01 - 10:09 AM
GUEST,Midchuck upstairs 23 Mar 01 - 10:48 AM
GUEST,BigDaddy 23 Mar 01 - 12:04 PM
Rex 23 Mar 01 - 01:46 PM
GUEST,Randy 08 Aug 10 - 12:32 AM
GUEST,DWR 08 Aug 10 - 03:09 AM
open mike 08 Aug 10 - 08:40 AM
GUEST,DWR 08 Aug 10 - 10:57 AM
Tigger the Tiger 14 Dec 11 - 07:42 AM
Desert Dancer 14 Dec 11 - 10:58 AM
Midchuck 14 Dec 11 - 11:44 AM
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Subject: Hotmud Family
From: GUEST,BigDaddy
Date: 23 Mar 01 - 12:50 AM

Anybody out there remember this group from, I believe, Missouri? Any leads on recordings? Thanks.


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Subject: RE: Help: Hotmud Family
From: Sorcha
Date: 23 Mar 01 - 12:53 AM

Click me baby, to order Hotmud Family recordings......


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Subject: RE: Help: Hotmud Family
From: katlaughing
Date: 23 Mar 01 - 12:57 AM

HeyaBD, if you put their name in at www.google there are a lot of sites with references that come up. This one had some of their stuff for sale resissued on CD, it looked like.

In just glancing at the links, it looks as though some of them went on to be part of the Dry Branch Fire Squad.

Good luck,

kat


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Subject: RE: Help: Hotmud Family
From: Stewie
Date: 23 Mar 01 - 03:47 AM

The reissue linked to by Sorcha is the only one currently available. Sadly, the Flying Fish and other Vetco albums have not resurfaced on CD. Suzanne Edmundson, the fine co-lead singer of the Hotmud Family, has reverted to her maiden name Suzanne Thomas and has a lovely CD out on Rounder: 'Dear Friends & Gentle Hearts' Rounder CD 0423. She is helped out by members of Seldom Scene, IIIrd Time Out, Lonesome River Band, John Hartford, Laurie Lewis and also the Dry Branch Fire Squad of which she was (perhaps still is?) a member.

--Stewie.


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Subject: RE: Help: Hotmud Family
From: Midchuck
Date: 23 Mar 01 - 06:55 AM

If you're going to discuss the Queen For Life, show some respect!

Peter.


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Subject: RE: Help: Hotmud Family
From: Barbara Shaw
Date: 23 Mar 01 - 08:27 AM

I believe Suzanne Thomas was married to the Edmundson guy (can't remember his first name). He became the guitar player and tenor in Dry Branch Fire Squad, and then later (probably after the divorce) she took his place in Dry Branch as guitar player and tenor/lead singer.

Last I heard, she had her own group, and her album "Dear Hearts . . ." mentioned above is very good. It has her doing the shape note song "Wondrous Love."


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Subject: RE: Help: Hotmud Family
From: Barbara Shaw
Date: 23 Mar 01 - 08:42 AM

Woops. Suzanne Thomas sings "Wondrous Love" on Bill Evans' album "Native and Fine," not on her own album. She's no longer in Dry Branch, by the way, and the Hotmud Family was from Ohio.


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Subject: RE: Help: Hotmud Family
From: Stewie
Date: 23 Mar 01 - 09:17 AM

Midchuck, care to explain your enigmatic post? I, for one, haven't the slightest idea what you are talking about.

--Stewie.


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Subject: RE: Help: Hotmud Family
From: GUEST,Midchuck upstairs fka EMG
Date: 23 Mar 01 - 10:04 AM

OK, I'll try, but it'll take a while. It goes back to '96, when the Bgrass-L mailing list was worth spending time on, before it disintegrated into petty squabbling as I hope Mudcat isn't really trying to do.

When someone got into an argument on that list, with Prof. Bangs Tapscott, of Salt Lake City, and called him "fat, old, and ugly," Mr. Tony Polychronis, also of Salt Lake, announced that as a protest, he was forming the American Association of Fat Old Ugly Farts, or AAFOUF. I immediately asked if charter memberships were available, and was allowed to become Charter Member #4.

One of the rules that was established at the outset was that women were eligible for full membership, but had to be self-nominated, to keep their friends and family members from being beaten up. Suzanne Thomas was one of the first women to insist on joining, and became #18, IIRC.

Sometime later, Suzanne got in an argument with some idiot - either a redneck or a college professor - on the list and put him down quite brilliantly. In recognition of her post, I proposed her for the title of AAFOUF Queen For Life; which Tony, as Founder, immediately made an official designation. To this day, she has been referred to on Bgrass-L simply as The Queen.

Before she left the DBFS, I got to a couple of their gigs where she was playing, with bigchuck, wearing our AAFOUF official hats, and Suzanne would yell from the stage, "Hey, it's my Lodge brothers!"

I swear I am not making this up.

Peter.


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Subject: RE: Help: Hotmud Family
From: Willie-O
Date: 23 Mar 01 - 10:09 AM

Mr Tony Polychronis?
Prof. Bangs Tapscott?

Do they all have names like that in Salt Lake City?

Just idly wondering...
Willie-O


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Subject: RE: Help: Hotmud Family
From: GUEST,Midchuck upstairs
Date: 23 Mar 01 - 10:48 AM

Well, think how dull it would be if they were all named Joseph Smith....

Peter.


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Subject: RE: Help: Hotmud Family
From: GUEST,BigDaddy
Date: 23 Mar 01 - 12:04 PM

Thank you all for your help and, er, well, other stuff too.


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Subject: RE: Help: Hotmud Family
From: Rex
Date: 23 Mar 01 - 01:46 PM

I used to see these fine folks playing in Ohio from time to time. Their banjo player, Rick Good, was the first brave banjo player to try to explain clawhammer playing to me.

Rex


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Subject: RE: Help: Hotmud Family
From: GUEST,Randy
Date: 08 Aug 10 - 12:32 AM

The Hotmud Family is from Spring Valley Ohio... On one of thier first albums has a picture of the rail road tracks looking back toward the town of Spring Valley.. They lived next door to me, and were friends with my Dad. My Dad asked Dave to give me guitar lessons. I met with Dave for one lesson, he got me to do a G chord showed me a little picking, and said come back when you learn to this good... I never did go back though.... I remember one time they were fasting and all they had was milk for a few days.....When I knew them Dave, Suzanne, Rick and Tom , all shared the house next door to us...
Gary Hoffarth Did the photo looking down the Rail Road tracks for their Album.. Hope I spelled Hoffarth right..


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Subject: RE: Help: Hotmud Family
From: GUEST,DWR
Date: 08 Aug 10 - 03:09 AM

How DID I miss seeing this thread before? The HMF was and still is just about my favorite BG/OT group ever, and yes, I do have all of those albums on Vetco and Flying Fish.

Somehow I managed to miss them when they were at the Focal Point in Webster Groves, MO, so when they were scheduled at a festival not too far away, I swore I was going to get to hear them for sure.

To cut the sad, long story short, I arrived at the festival . . . just . . . after . . . they . . . left!   I never got the chance again. Getting to see Buck White and the Down Home Folks when both Ricky Skaggs and Jerry Douglas were playing with them was not nearly enough consolation for having missed the chance of a lifetime as it turned out.

I also missed Dry Branch a couple of times . . .


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Subject: RE: Help: Hotmud Family
From: open mike
Date: 08 Aug 10 - 08:40 AM

Hot Mud Family Formed: 1972 Disbanded: 1982 Is it possible for anyone with these recordings to post an mp3, since the recordings are out of print? There is lots of info here on this site from Czechoslovakia..

http://countrydiscography.blogspot.com/2010/04/hotmud-family.html

it mentions Fiddlin' Van Kidwell & The Hotmud Family

so what were the names of the original band members?

Dave
Suzanne Thomas
Rick Good
Tom


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Subject: RE: Help: Hotmud Family
From: GUEST,DWR
Date: 08 Aug 10 - 10:57 AM

Dave Edmundson
Suzanne Edmundson
Rick Good
Tom Harley Campbell

There were others, but that's pretty much it, especially the first three. I'll send a couple of tracks to Joe.

Big news REUNION CONCERT at Circleville, OHIO on August 28, 2010
http://eventful.com/circleville/events/braeburn-summer-concert-series-hotmud-family-/E0-001-032592620-6


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Subject: RE: Help: Hotmud Family
From: Tigger the Tiger
Date: 14 Dec 11 - 07:42 AM

You seem to know Suzanne pretty well. One of the most intelligent,intense people I have known;way more alive than most people. She and I were close friends in 63 to 65;we travelled together while she was performing in Indiana and Canada.I was very surprised to find her performing with so many other people;she always played alone and could carry a show well by herself. As always,name changes confuse finding old friends. It looks like she married someone named Hopkins and lives in downstate Ohio?I found a summary of her life relating to Dry Branch Fire Squad. I tried to contact her through work with no luck.Glad to know she has had a very full life.


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Subject: RE: Help: Hotmud Family
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 14 Dec 11 - 10:58 AM

A Tucson friend, bass player Jerry Weinert, played with them at some point. He DJed the early morning bluegrass show on WYSO in the early '80s.

WYSO was on the campus of Antioch College, in Yellow Springs. I was a student there, and hated waking to bluegrass in the morning. My boyfriend did the weekly folk show the quarter that we both started there, and introduced me to a lot of good stuff.

Jerry now plays with the Privy Tippers.

~ Becky in Tucson


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Subject: RE: Help: Hotmud Family
From: Midchuck
Date: 14 Dec 11 - 11:44 AM

I just got their four albums on 2 cds.

Usual disclaimers. Good, though.

Peter


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Subject: RE: Help: Hotmud Family
From: GUEST,Dave in Michigan
Date: 14 Dec 11 - 03:11 PM

Dave Edmundson often used to mention "Fiddling Sid" Harkreader (whom he made a point of calling "Siddling Fid" on subsequent reference), but it was never clear to me whether Harkreader had ever been an official member of the Hotmud Family, or just an influence/inspiration.


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