Lyr Req: Jack Orion / O'Rion / Glasgerion

Subject: Jack Orion / O'Rion / Glasgerion
From: GUEST,Simon in Hampshire, England
Date: 23 Mar 01 - 05:35 AM

Hi folks

I've just checked the archive for the above, and only found a very Scottish version under the name Glenkindie. It's obviously the same basic song as Martin Carthy, Bert Jansch, Fairport, Pentangle etc recorded, but quite a lot of mutations too. Are the words to the 'English' version around anywhere? Anyone know more about it please? What's going on with the names... is the Orion / -gerion the same word? etc.

Cheers, Simon

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Jack Orion / O'Rion / Glasgerion
From: Susan of DT
Date: 23 Mar 01 - 09:08 AM

I could have sworn I had entered Carthy's Jack Orion, but I guess not. I'll have to listen to it again to get all the words. May not be soon. Anyone else have them?

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Jack Orion / O'Rion / Glasgerion
From: MMario
Date: 23 Mar 01 - 09:22 AM

I don't find it in the online DT either - but it's in the forum.

Jack Orion

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Jack Orion / O'Rion / Glasgerion
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 23 Mar 01 - 09:23 AM

This is a job for the "Digitrad and Forum Search" on the main Forum page, which has a considerable advantage over the other search facilities here, as it searches not only the DT and Forum threads, but also the bodies of the files, so the name of the song doesn't have to be in the thread title!  I do like to encourage people to use it, as you could have found a number of past discussions of this song that way, including this one:  Jack Orion,  which contains texts of the Bert Lloyd rewrite that Martin Carthy recorded, and also Pentangle's lengthy collation of that text with its original, Glasgerion.

Malcolm

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Jack Orion / O'Rion / Glasgerion
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 23 Mar 01 - 09:29 AM

I missed MMario's link there, thought it was his sig!  (insufficient coffee).  Lloyd didn't say where he got the tune that he set Jack Orion to, but it bears an uncanny resemblance to Donald Where's Your Trousers.  Whether this was an inscrutable joke on his part, or whether both melodies were based on the same original (something not unlike Johnny Cope, perhaps) I really don't know.

Malcolm

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Jack Orion / O'Rion / Glasgerion
From: MMario
Date: 23 Mar 01 - 09:29 AM

Thank you Malcolm for typing in that which I was too lazy to type. *grin*

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Jack Orion / O'Rion / Glasgerion
From: GUEST,AR
Date: 24 Feb 11 - 11:51 AM

Have just come across a recording of a version of 'Glenkindie', the Aberdeenshire version of this ballad, from the TMSA Kinross Folk Festival 1975. I am trying to identify the singer - male, youngish, English, singing unaccompanied, and he also sings Burns' song 'The Deadly Wars'. Does anybody have any idea who the singer might be?

Thanks!

Subject: Jack Orion
From: GUEST,RJM
Date: 11 Aug 23 - 12:12 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi6sqd9HO1Q AND ANOTHER https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPBJWHtMLek

Subject: RE: Jack Orion
From: GUEST,RJM
Date: 11 Aug 23 - 12:27 AM

I like these two versions because of the vocal work, clear diction,and thoughtful story interpretation.