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Help: B/D CHORD

Hummingbird 23 Mar 01 - 08:34 PM
GUEST,marty D 24 Mar 01 - 01:25 AM
Shouter 24 Mar 01 - 02:24 AM
Mooh 24 Mar 01 - 08:14 AM
Hummingbird 24 Mar 01 - 05:49 PM
GUEST 26 Mar 01 - 07:59 AM
Whistle Stop 26 Mar 01 - 08:41 AM
MichaelM 26 Mar 01 - 09:20 AM
Mooh 26 Mar 01 - 10:50 AM
Rick Fielding 26 Mar 01 - 11:51 AM
GUEST,Matt_R 26 Mar 01 - 11:54 AM
Whistle Stop 26 Mar 01 - 12:08 PM
Grab 26 Mar 01 - 01:38 PM
Bernard 26 Mar 01 - 02:46 PM
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Subject: B/D CHORD
From: Hummingbird
Date: 23 Mar 01 - 08:34 PM

Hello old friends,

Yes, I'm back. And hopefully to stay now that my neck and shoulder prpoblem seems to be on the mend after months of MD's and PT's. Anyway, HELP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> B/D chord. All the fingerings, two of them I have, sound just horrible. Any suggestions.

One is x2xx23, the other is x2xx44, makes no sense to me. ( I think those are right, but I don't have them in front of me)


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Subject: RE: Help: B/D CHORD
From: GUEST,marty D
Date: 24 Mar 01 - 01:25 AM

Hummingbird. I'm a bit confused as to which chord you're looking for. I know some pros use a kind of musical shorthand that's not known to other mortals. Could you explain it a bit more. "B" slash "D" just doesn't make sense to me.

Martin


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Subject: RE: Help: B/D CHORD
From: Shouter
Date: 24 Mar 01 - 02:24 AM

hey guys, i can help you out. try letting the open A and D strings sound with the notes you have in fingering #1. that works well for me in situations where i'm in a D7-ish mood and i want some passing-tone chords for a turnaround: D7 - C/D - B/D - D(7). this progression is enhanced by detuning the low E string to D, so that a powerful root-base note resonates throughout. As for fingering #2, it seems to me to be more like a B6, than any kind of standard D-form. hope i've helped.


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Subject: RE: Help: B/D CHORD
From: Mooh
Date: 24 Mar 01 - 08:14 AM

In guitar parlance, slash chord means the chord as indicated by whatever precedes the slash with the bass note indicated by what follows the slash. Therefore a B/D is a B chord with a D bass note. Perhaps this fingering xx0442, or xx0877, or xx0447. There would be many better sounding variations in non-standard tunings because in standard the lowest D we have is the open 4th string, not very low.

B/D dictates the D as the bass note, which isn't what is usually meant in guitarspeak by a B6 chord which usually puts the D higher in the chord.

Clear as Mud, Cat?

Mooh.


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Subject: RE: Help: B/D CHORD
From: Hummingbird
Date: 24 Mar 01 - 05:49 PM

THanks for the help, or confusion.....LOL.

I'll give it a whirl!!!

Hummingbird.


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Subject: RE: Help: B/D CHORD
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Mar 01 - 07:59 AM

Thanks Mooh, for the explanation on "slash" chords...one sees them written occasionally over top the musical staff - never knew what they signified. Something new every day learns one.


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Subject: RE: Help: B/D CHORD
From: Whistle Stop
Date: 26 Mar 01 - 08:41 AM

Yeah, but if you play a D (natural) as the bass note of a B (major) chord -- as in Mooh's xx0442 example -- , you'll get something that doesn't sound very pleasant in most contexts. With a B Minor chord it works, but that may not be what Hummingbird is looking for; I think he needs to give us more information about what he's looking for before we can give him any helpful guidance.


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Subject: RE: Help: B/D CHORD
From: MichaelM
Date: 26 Mar 01 - 09:20 AM

What the chords above written music often indicate is that the music publisher got some damn piano player to write down what he/she was playing without any regard to the principles of the guitar (hence the carefully transcribed pieces in E flat and A flat). The B/D might represent a passing note in the bass that looks wrong in the static chord diagram.


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Subject: RE: Help: B/D CHORD
From: Mooh
Date: 26 Mar 01 - 10:50 AM

MichaelM took the words right out of my mouth.

The chord in question is likely a transitional chord with some sort of moving bass line, from chord to chord, or key to key, or we are working with insufficient information. My suggested fingerings didn't sound great on their own but within the context of a piece they might work. It could be too that the B/D signifies soemthing else in someone else's musical shorthand. God knows there are a million players out there writing things down differently. (I used to jam with a guy who called anything played around the fifth fret "A", even if it was Cmajor, Am, Dm etc...quite confusing.)

Reversed, a D/B works in progressions above and below D. I wonder if the original was reversed?

Mooh.


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Subject: RE: Help: B/D CHORD
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 26 Mar 01 - 11:51 AM

Not sure if this is any help or not but I play a "D" over "B" this way. (it's tricky, and can't be done on a wide neck guitar, but if you train your wrist to be flexible it sounds good)

Regular D, and then bring your thumb over the 6th and 5th strings. Ignore the 6th string F# and start the chord from the "B".

It may seem impossible at first to get your thumb around the two bass strings without damping out the rest of the "D" chord, but it's not. It can take about five days worth of effort, but it'll give you such a flexible thumb and wrist that other simpler "thumb chords" will come almost instantly. You don't need big hands or long fingers...but you DO need a Gibson or Martin style width neck.


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Subject: RE: Help: B/D CHORD
From: GUEST,Matt_R
Date: 26 Mar 01 - 11:54 AM

Or you could drop play it in dropped D tuning!


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Subject: RE: Help: B/D CHORD
From: Whistle Stop
Date: 26 Mar 01 - 12:08 PM

Rick, I would likely play the same chord with my index finger on the B bass note, my second finger on the third-string A, pinky on the second-string D, ring finger on the first string F#. Could be kind of awkward, I suppose, but it sure beats breaking my thumb to play it your way.


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Subject: RE: Help: B/D CHORD
From: Grab
Date: 26 Mar 01 - 01:38 PM

Hummingbird, are you sure the slashes are the right way round? So it isn't D/B, ie. a D-chord with a B in the bass, played x20232?

As well as Mooh's suggestions, two more B/D chords you can try are x54447 (barre IV) and x54477 (barre IV, barre VII with little finger) which'll have a different sound again.

Grab.


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Subject: RE: Help: B/D CHORD
From: Bernard
Date: 26 Mar 01 - 02:46 PM

Gordon Bennett! What a fuss!

What's it all about?!


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