I scored music books @ the library sale!

Subject: I scored music books @ the library sale!
From: katlaughing
Date: 25 Mar 01 - 05:46 PM

Heya! Went to the second day of the annual library book sale, today and got some pretty good buys. I may put one or two of them in the auction. Here is what I got; if any of you know any good stuff about any of them, please let me know. I am esp. intersted in the Secil sharp one - having trouble figuring out which edition it is and value. Thanks!

Heart Songs - Melodies of Days Gone By - Contributed by 25,000 People (early day Mudcatters!**BG**) Dear to the American People, and by them contributed in the search for treasured songs initiated by the national Magazine - published by The Chapple Publishing Company, Ltd. Boston, MA, expressly for World Sydicate Co. NY I think it is a First Edition, 1909

Our Songs compiled by Mary A Sanders, and self-published by her in 1942 - some great little songs in a paperback which seems to sell for a pretty good price in used bookstores

The Ditty Bag compiled by Janet E. Tobitt copyright 1945, , revised 1960 another highly valued paperback full of "Folk & Art" songs

I Hear America Singing - An Anthology of Folk Poetry collected by Ruth A. Barnes; published by The John C. Winston Company, 1937. I think it's a First Edition, too and it is the one I am most excited about...wonderful, wonderful poetry!

Rhythms, Music, and Instruments to Make by John Hawkinson and Martha Faulhaber Second Printing 1975 - this one goes to my big sis, "bet" - I was surprised to find it was pretty highly valued on bibliofind, too!

Folk Songs of Many Peoples, Vol. 1 With English Versions by American Poets - compiled and edited by Florence Hudson Botsford - The Women's press, 1921 - Another First, I think and also highly prized.

The English Country Dance - Description Graded Series containign the descriptions of the dances together witht he tunes by Cecil J. Sharp. Vols I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII.

This is the one I don't understand at the booksellers. These Vols are all bound in one slender, oversized book published by Novello & Co, Ltd, London, with no date. It wasa obviously sold by E. C. Schirmer Music Company 221 Columbus Ave, Boston, MASS. as it has their sticker in it.

Any ideas, info?

Thanks! I am pretty happy with these. All told I spent $15 for the lot of them! Now, we are off to searchf or a few more! The sale goes on all week.

katlaughing

Subject: RE: I scored music books @ the library sale!
From: Sorcha
Date: 25 Mar 01 - 05:52 PM

Our used book sale starts 3/31, but all they ever have in Music Section is college theory books and "religious" choir stuff, like the "Messiah". You piker, kat. I'd like to have the Niles, but I want a copy of Child worse.....

Subject: RE: I scored music books @ the library sale!
From: Mooh
Date: 25 Mar 01 - 06:15 PM

Kat. I'll give you $20 for the lot. Sounds like you made off like a bandit. Green is the colour of my envy. Mooh.

Subject: RE: I scored music books @ the library sale!
From: Naemanson
Date: 25 Mar 01 - 06:45 PM

I just sold my second copy of Heart Songs on the Mudcat Auction and I have a copy of The Ditty Bag. I too am green with envy over the others you have.

I have been to many book sales but never found such a haul as that.

Subject: RE: I scored music books @ the library sale!
From: katlaughing
Date: 25 Mar 01 - 08:14 PM

"Niles," Sorcha? Wed. and Thurs. are half price day and Friday is bag day. I'd say come on over, but I will have picked it clean by then!**BG**

Thanks, ya'll. Nice to share this with you. Just after I typed and posted this thread, as I was getting ready to go back, this time with Rog, my cousin called to tell me my favourite aunt had died. She would have been 81 in June.

My Aunt Margaret was a person who always lived in the moment, had an ascerbic wit, wrote with a rapier-like pen, had a whiskey voice from smoking, and was totally irreverent pulling no punches in telling it like it was. She had gorgeous rhodedendrons and just before she moved to an small apt. with some assisted care, in December, she had cats like me...I took after her in a lot of ways because she was one of my earliest *heros*.

Like me, she was the only one of her family to make a major move away from family, live a bit of a rebellious life, and still raise a family with lots of love and support. She had to give her cats to a no-kill shelter when she moved, but before she died she found out that they had been adopted, together, into a loving home. I know she was grateful for that and so am I. She meant so much to me. I will miss her a lot. Now there is only one living sibling of my mom's left, my 90 yr old Aunt Ruth.

Think I'll go sing a song. Thanks for listening.

luvyakat

Subject: RE: I scored music books @ the library sale!
From: wdyat12
Date: 26 Mar 01 - 11:31 AM

kat,

You must have been the first one to the music table! Sounds like you got some really good deals.

Naemanson,

Have you checked the ongoing sale at the Patten Free Library yet?

wdyat12

Subject: RE: I scored music books @ the library sale!
From: katlaughing
Date: 26 Mar 01 - 11:49 AM

Naw, Wdy, just the first to know what to look for, I think. I didn't even go the first day of the sale as it is always wall to wall people.

Subject: RE: I scored music books @ the library sale!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 26 Mar 01 - 05:36 PM

I do pretty well at library sales, but I suppose it's inevitable that the professional booksellers agre going to get there first and get the best books. I don't want to be a book barracuda.
Sounds like you got a pretty good haul, Kat.
Sorcha, is it the Ballad Book of John Jacob Niles that you're lookinf for? It's available as a paperback reprint from University of Kentucky - Amazon has it for $30. I often see hardcover copies for ten bucks or so.
I think I'd be careful about paying high prices for Lomax books, too - some of them are available as reprints, and I'll betcha most will be reprinted. I'm surprised nobody has reprinted Child since the Dover edition stopped publication.
I suppose we digital people may have an effect on the market. Most of the Child Ballads are in the Digital Tradition, and we certainly have the ability to put the whole thing on a CD - so why should anybody bother to publish it?
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: I scored music books @ the library sale!
From: Naemanson
Date: 26 Mar 01 - 08:11 PM

Sorry to hear about your aunt, Kat. It sounds like the world was diminished with her passing.

Woody, I check that sale regularly and have not yet found anything good (music wise).

The best one is the one in Brunswick,given by the Friends Of The Brunswick Library. I have made some good discoveries in there bt you have to get there early and be ready to fight the crowds.

Also the Patten Free Library has a book sale every July 4th. The deal there is to sign up to help set out the books. You get first choice. You still have to pay but you get first choice. In times past I have scored such things as complete sets of Rudyard Kipling, Joseph Conrad, and Mark Twain. I think it was there that I found various Burl Ives song books and a copy of Niles as well.

And both sales feature records! (You know, the big black discs with the little hole in the center.) I have some great stuff from those.

One of my greatest purchases came from the flea market at the Saint John's Bazaar. Carl Sandburg wrote the American Songbag. What I didn't know is that he put out a companion set of 78 RPM records featuring himself singing some of the songs in the book. Scored that one and crowed all the way home.

Subject: RE: I scored music books @ the library sale!
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 26 Mar 01 - 08:22 PM

The main problem with the Child collection is that the cost involved in producing a printed set would be prohibitive, given the potential market.  The DT has many of the song texts, though by no means most of them, and in all too many cases they have been transcribed inaccurately and without proper attribution.  It's also worth remembering that the bulk of the English and Scottish Popular Ballads is composed, not of ballad texts, but of information about them, very little of which is available here.  Without the associated information, the song texts are of limited value; a publication of the entire corpus would be important (and a huge job; I've looked into it), but the whole thing needs to be done, not just a piecemeal compromise.

Malcolm

Subject: RE: I scored music books @ the library sale!
From: DonMeixner
Date: 26 Mar 01 - 10:13 PM

Ain't Heart Songs a great find? I have an 1883 edition and "Three Fishers" is in it. Knew it was old but I wasn't expecting that old.

Don

Subject: RE: I scored music books @ the library sale!
From: GUEST,_gargoyle
Date: 26 Mar 01 - 11:41 PM

Meow, Meow, Meow, Meow

Meow, Meow, Meow, Meow

If it had not been for your previous rubbing against my legs, your begging and softly purring....I would not have taken the time to run this quick appraisal.....oooowwwwhhhhh!!!!....you are sooooooo silky!!!!!

Based upon your current "good fortune" and the public library's ignorance.... no-doubt you will "tith" 20% of your "treasure" over to the "Max."....205.00 X .20% = $40+

ALWAYS....proud to be at YOUR service...

_gargoyle

I Hear America Singing- An Anthology of Folk Poetry
Ruth A. Barnes
Illustrated by Robert Lawson
Winston and Co. 1937 Hard Cover. Near Fine/Very Good. First Edition. Poetry. Dust jacket has slight stain on spine, very small chip on spine. Bookseller Inventory # 000018
Price: US$ 50.00
Culpepper Books, Tacoma, WA, U.S.A.

Heart Songs: Memories of the Days Gone By Dear to the American People...
Boston: Chapple [for World Syndicate Co.], 1909. Lacks DJ; red picture boards with stamped lettering; paper lt. foxed; else VG. Bookseller Inventory # 1757
Price: US$ 14.00
Luftmensch Books, New York, NY, U.S.A.

Our Songs
compiled by Mary A Sanders,
NY: Self Published, 1942 Wraps. Good. Sheet music for singers from seven to eleven years old. Bookseller Inventory # 0022284
Price: US$ 20.00
VENTURA PACIFIC LTD Out of Print Books, Ventura, CA, U.S.A.

The Ditty Bag
compiled by Tobitt, Janet E.
Published by the author (1946) 1st Edition? Softbound Very Good - some chipping and rubbing of spine and edges. Includes original receipt where book was purchased. Dark blue and white wraps; some creasing and slight fading. This is a wonderful compilation of songs, with music, for folk songs, rounds, hymns, and carols from 30 countries. Some of songs listed in index have been circled in pen. Bookseller Inventory # 001181
Price: US$ 15.00
Becky Jones Antiques, St. Petersburg, FL, U.S.A.

Rhythms, Music and Instruments to Make
Hawkinson, John Faulhaber Martha
Albert Whitman & Co, 1975 Hardback. Good/No Dj. Children's Book Ex Library. ex-library book, usual library markings. Previous owners name on inside cover. Book in very good condition. Book Two in the music involvement series. Bookseller Inventory # 008233
Price: US$ 55.00
R&D'S BOOKS, Mobile, AL, U.S.A.

Botsford Collection of Folk Songs Vol. 1
Botsford, Florence Hudson
New York: G. Schirmer, 1930 Paperback. Very Good 219pp. Shelf wear to extremities. Small closed tears to spine tips. Light staining to covers. Text and music clean and bright. Bookseller Inventory # 002888
Price: US$ 25.00
The Book Bin, Salem, OR, U.S.A.

FOLK MUSIC. DANCE. SHARP, Cecil J. The English Country Dance. Graded Series. Vol. I, II, III & Supplement I (Vol. IX).
Novello. 1951. 26pp; 27pp; 23pp, 28pp. 4 vols. 4to PB. Vol. I & the suppl vol are of an earlier edition. Spine of vol. II worn. Containing the description of the dances together with the tunes. Vol. 1 contains Brighton Camp, Galopede, Nancy's Fancy, The Black Nag, Gathering Peascods, & Rufty Tufty. Vol. II contains the Ribbon Dance, Goddesses, The Mary & the Dorothy, If All the World Were Paper, Picking Up Sticks, & Haste to the Wedding. Vol. III contains Bonnets So Blue, The Maid Peeped Out at the Window, Christchurch Bells, Hey, Boys, Up We Go, Sellenger's Round, & the Merry, Merry Milkmaids. Supp. vol. contains The Butterfly, Three Meet, Mage on a Cree, Speed the Plough, Grimstock, Oranges & Lemons. Bookseller Inventory # 30727
Price: US$ 45.00)
Da Capo Music, Sydney, NSW, Australia

Subject: RE: I scored music books @ the library sale!
From: katlaughing
Date: 26 Mar 01 - 11:42 PM

Kewl, Don!

I forgot, I meant to ask about Carl Sandburg's American Songbag. They have one in the Silent Auction room at the library. Min. starting bid is $16. Should I bid on it? Is it hard to find and how valuable is it?

Thanks for your kind words about my Aunt Maggie. She was precious and one of a kind. The world is indeed diminished with her passing.

kat

Subject: RE: I scored music books @ the library sale!
From: katlaughing
Date: 27 Mar 01 - 12:31 AM

Well, well, well...whaddaya know...ol' garg is back with useful, but not new info...thanks but I'd already looked them up myself and figured right around $200.

As for tithing...how would you presume to know whether I do or do not...no, no, don't tell me...you always did presume, so why stop now.

Subject: RE: I scored music books @ the library sale!
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 27 Mar 01 - 12:32 AM

Alibris offers a slew of 'em, Kat, at around $14 plus shipping, of course. Many are ex-library. If you get it at $16, and it's in good shape, you'd be saving a buck or two off of the cost with shipping from Alibris. My God, it looks as if Alibris has tried to buy (or at least list) every copy in the bookshops of America!

I love the old Heart Songs, too. Verified the text I sing for "When You and I were Young, Maggie" there.

Sandy

Subject: RE: I scored music books @ the library sale!
From: wdyat12
Date: 27 Mar 01 - 12:51 AM

Naemanson,

Have you checked out Walfield & Thistles in front of the Harding Plant. Now there is an untapped resource!

wdyat12

Subject: RE: I scored music books @ the library sale!
From: katlaughing
Date: 27 Mar 01 - 01:12 AM

Thanks, Sandy. I think I'll pass on it, then.

Any of you close to Westerly, Rhode Island, the library sale there used to be fantastic. They used to hold it in the gymnasium at the Y. Wall to wall tables of books and real gems to be found.

The Library itself is a beautiful building, worth a tour, as well as the park next to it. Well worth a day trip or even overnight, lots of B&B's there. It's only about 30 minutes from Mystic.

BTW, gargoyle, that is not the same Cecil Sharp book I found. Mine is all of the volumes bound in one oversized book. Still haven't found one lik eit, but another Mudcatter says they may have one like it and are checking on it.

kat

Subject: RE: I scored music books @ the library sale!
From: Naemanson
Date: 27 Mar 01 - 04:57 AM

Kat, my copy of American Songbag is a fairly recent reprint so I'd say you might be able to find a cheaper copy somewhere else as Sandy has pointed out. I would love to find a copy with the same date as the records I have.

Woody, I haven't been into Walfield & Thistles in years. I don't know why not. I'll have to check t out.

Subject: RE: I scored music books @ the library sale!
From: katlaughing
Date: 27 Mar 01 - 05:32 AM

What date is that, Naes? The book I saw was old, can't remember the date, but it is in the silent auction room. I can call tomorrow and get the date. if it is the right one, I'll bid on it for you and see what we get. just let me know, okay?

Subject: RE: I scored music books @ the library sale!
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 27 Mar 01 - 10:10 AM

The librarian who let those books out of her/his system ought to be fired.

Subject: RE: I scored music books @ the library sale!
From: Hollowfox
Date: 27 Mar 01 - 12:23 PM

Easy, Leenia. I've been known to "weed" out such books, for a variety of reasons. I work at a branch library, and the main library, and perhaps other branches, have copies. I'm always getting new books, and if the shelves are too tight, something has to go. Perhaps the copy is a bit worn, and I've gotten a replacement copy. What happens then? Well, some of these books end up in my personal collection (after I buy them from the library booksale), some I pass on to fellow folkies who are interested, and some I leave in the library booksale for diligent bookaholics like you, although now that I've discovered the 'Cat, I'll probably buy them and put them up for auction here.