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Subject: RE: Byker Hill: nother parody From: GUEST,RSF Date: 10 Aug 08 - 05:42 PM Just back from Sidmouth where George Frampton sang a great parody of 'Byker Hill' in The Volunteer one lunchtime. It was about football, and the chorus went something like: 'From Main Road to White Hart Lane From QPR down to Millwall I've been to every football ground And been thrown out of nearly all' Didn't get chance to ask George (he was working hard to manage the session) but does anyone have the words? RSF |
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Subject: RE: Byker Hill: background info anyone? From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 30 May 08 - 07:37 PM If I'm right in thinking that 'dlynn' meant to ask 'Is "My Dearie Sits Up Ower Late' traditionally sung in the middle of "Byker Hill"?', then the answer is no, it isn't; at least if by 'traditionally' you mean as sung by traditional singers. The combination of the two separate songs is, so far as we can tell (and as discussed earlier in this ten-year-old thread), a novelty of the Revival instigated by Bert Lloyd. If by 'traditionally' you mean 'habitually nowadays' then sometimes, yes; depending on which Revival performer one has learned the song from. This answer may not make a great deal of sense to people who think that all those who sing traditional songs are traditional singers, or who don't understand why I make a distinction between tradition and revival in discussions of this kind; but I can't help that. The 'Cottars' sing an arrangement of the Young Tradition set; that isn't the original tune to which the song was sung. Again, that is discussed earlier on here. |
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Subject: RE: Byker Hill: background info anyone? From: GUEST,cStu Date: 30 May 08 - 06:32 PM look what google turned up Byker Hill - Carthy/Swarbick beats MIDI hands down ;~) |
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Subject: RE: Byker Hill: background info anyone? From: GUEST Date: 30 May 08 - 05:12 PM First to those who lived there, thank you much for the information. i love to learn the history behind these songs. Thank god this thread has lasted as long as it has Second, the other song, am i understanding that it is traditionally sang in the middle of Byker Hill? And tunes that are mention i think i am understanding is what the other song words are sung to? the version i have is by the Cottars, it follows the original tune which i like better dlynn |
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Subject: RE: Byker Hill: background info anyone? From: GUEST,Ro Date: 08 Apr 08 - 11:35 AM As a bit of a darker ending it was once suggested to me that the last chorus should be replaced with There's no Byker Hill, no Walker Shore The Collier lads they are no more no Byker Hill, no Walker shore The collier lads they are no more |
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Subject: RE: Byker Hill: background info anyone? From: Mr Red Date: 31 Oct 07 - 08:43 AM No joke just a question, we don't want any Mondegreens here do we? If you want jokes - er make that whimsies - is it Byker Hill, or Bike Uphill? Or Elsie Marlie or Elsie Mollie? I have heard a tune of that name. |
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Subject: RE: Byker Hill: background info anyone? From: Santa Date: 31 Oct 07 - 06:36 AM I don't see any reason for regarding it as ironic. Two or three shirts doesn't sound particularly "doing well" to us, but it is clearly an improvement to the collier in the song. Not every folksong is a tirade against social injustice, so surely this is a modern misunderstanding. It may be meant ironically by modern singers, but is that a legitimate part of the folk process? It is certainly Walker Shore as far as I am concerned, being a native north-easterner and having known it before hearing the Carthy/Swarbrick version. Without having a full list at my fingertips, I believe we can rule out any other pit in the area, and the "walk ashore" is surely a joke? |
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Subject: RE: Byker Hill: background info anyone? From: Jack Blandiver Date: 31 Oct 07 - 05:39 AM In my experience Byker Hill tends to get sung to one of two tunes. I'm not altogether sure of the provenance of either, just that this is the way people sing it on Tyneside. I sing it to both, depending on which of my two zithers I'm using: Byker Hill - Citera Alpha Byker Hill - Citera Beta The first tune is said to be the oldest of the two, close to that sung by the Young Tradition, though I've never heard of the shape note connection mentioned above. The second tune is softer, and may have something to do with George Welsh.. |
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Subject: RE: Byker Hill: background info anyone? From: Rosebrook Date: 30 Oct 07 - 11:27 PM 10 years later ~~ thanks for the answer! :o) |
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Subject: RE: Byker Hill: background info anyone? From: Mr Red Date: 30 Oct 07 - 08:59 AM Now is it Walker Shore as in strand Walk Ashore as in gangway or Walkashaw - at least one colliery near Tamworth bore that name (now closed) I always took it to be a colliery. |
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Subject: RE: Byker Hill: background info anyone? From: GUEST,Guest Date: 30 Oct 07 - 08:31 AM The Young Tradition tune is the American Shapenote hymn Hebrew Children Nick |
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Subject: RE: Byker Hill: background info anyone? From: GUEST,meself Date: 27 Mar 07 - 11:50 AM A very forthright response! Others? |
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Subject: RE: Byker Hill: background info anyone? From: IanC Date: 27 Mar 07 - 11:31 AM No. |
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Subject: RE: Byker Hill: background info anyone? From: GUEST,meself Date: 27 Mar 07 - 10:46 AM Yes - but my question is, Is he being ironic (sarcastic), as the Trad. Ballad Index notes state? |
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Subject: RE: Byker Hill: background info anyone? From: johnadams Date: 27 Mar 07 - 09:51 AM The phrase 'done well by me' can mean 'has given me advantage' or something like that. Thus, the miner who came to the pit with no boots and no pit shirt ended up with two or three - hence Walker Pit's done well by (for) me. J |
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Subject: RE: Byker Hill: background info anyone? From: GUEST,meself Date: 27 Mar 07 - 08:47 AM In the notes from the Traditional Ballad Index, and I believe somewhere else above, the line "Walker Pit's done well by me" is characterised as "ironic". I always took this line as straight. How do other people interpret this line? (NB: Lectures on conditions in the coal mines not necessary). |
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Subject: RE: Byker Hill: background info anyone? From: GUEST,Michael K Date: 27 Mar 07 - 08:16 AM This thread has been going on for SIX years!!!!! Now I believe I have made it TEN!!! How mad. |
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Subject: RE: Byker Hill: background info anyone? From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 21 Nov 03 - 12:04 AM The version by Jeri is the one on the Byker Hill album. A slightly different one was offered by Carthy and Swarbrick in the Life and Limb album- but the only real difference is a new verse in the latter: The pitman and the keelman trim To the dance they do begin They drink bumble made from gin They dance the Elsie Marley Other changes: Byker Hill Geordie Johnson had a pig And he hit it with a shovel and it danced a jig All the way to Byker Hill He danced the Elsie Marley Life and Limb ----- All the way to Walker Shore To the tune of Elsie Marley *The poor coal carter gets two shillings ---gets a shilling *Both a carter and a cutter required in coal operation- which is it? The way Carthy sings, it is hard to tell. Cutter at a guess but someone with an ear for Carthy needs to decide. Jeri (Carthy) and Malcolm (Lloyd) have done the work and their posted versions are both needed. Use the Byker Hill version given by Jeri but with note giving the different verse in the Carthy-Swarbrick version? To the Lloyd version, add a link to "My Dearie Sits ...". |
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Subject: RE: Byker Hill: background info anyone? From: Joe Offer Date: 20 Nov 03 - 09:03 PM If the Digital Tradition of a song is lacking, let's take care of it. Jeff has worked up a new system that makes it easy for the clones and me to mark songs for harvesting. If there are versions of a song posted that are particularly significant, let me know. Maybe we can put them in bold type, or something. Sooner or later, we hope to make the harvested lyrics available for publidc review and comment, before they are entered into the Digital Tradition. That way, maybe the lyrics in the DT will be more accurate and have better documentation. If you look at song threads in the Forum, I think you can see that we've come a long way since 1996. Wonderful people like Malcom and Masato and Q and Bruce Olson and Stewie and many others have given us some great information. Now, if somebody has a Sandy Paton Elektra LP they can burn onto a CD for me, I'd be eternally grateful. I am, like, a HUGE Sandy Paton fan. [grin] -Joe Offer- Are we agreed that Jeri's Carthy version is good, and that Malcolm's Lloyd version is a good transcription? |
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Subject: RE: Byker Hill: background info anyone? From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 20 Nov 03 - 04:39 PM In the past, it seems that versions of songs were added to the DT without checking for accuracy, representative lyrics or attribution. This is one of those hindsight complaints. Through the threads, more accurate and complete information has been obtained but has not appeared in the DT. I have thrown out complaints such as Malcolm has done above, which is easy to do, but when it comes to solutions--- The reason why the DT material has not been improved is obvious- it takes time and knowledgeable people to make a decision and make revisions. Who is willing to take the time?? The study threads, compiling the best on particular songs, I felt was a good move. From these, more representative versions could be selected for the DT. But this is going to take more than Joe and one or two helpers to accomplish. There is just too much to check. In the meantime, unless a whole batch of good samaritans comes forward, perhaps, as has been done- close off threads that aren't needed and combine anything new into the main thread- but even that takes time that few have. If we recognize that a new thread is duplicative, we should try, (like Malcoln has done above), to point out the pertinent thread and refresh it, leaving a note in the new thread asking people to please use the earlier thread. The redundant thread could then be cut off. Usually, I have tried to indicate earlier material when answering a question, but it is less time-consuming to answer a question without taking the time to go back over the old threads- as I did here. |
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Subject: RE: Byker Hill: background info anyone? From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 20 Nov 03 - 04:29 PM The DT set (Sandy Paton, from Redd Sullivan) is the same as that later recorded by the Young Tradition, and is at least as "valid" as the Carthy and Lloyd recorded sets, which are modern collations set to tunes that don't traditionally belong to the song anyway. The Come All Ye Bold Miners text (posted by Anglo earlier) is quoted -so far as I can tell- from Bell's Rhymes of the Northern Bards, and was sung to the popular tune Off She Goes. Conrad wasn't entirely clear about where the text he posted came from. Bruce mentioned the Jack Elliott set in Michael Dawney's Doon the Wagon Way; I've picked up a copy in the meantime, and will look at it further: the tune looks to be yet another one. |
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Subject: RE: Byker Hill: background info anyone? From: Joe Offer Date: 20 Nov 03 - 03:42 PM I've done preliminary harvesting of the versions posted by Jeri and Malcolm. Is the version in the Digital Tradition an accurate transcription of the Sandy Paton recording, even though Sandy may now disavow is as a youthful indiscretion? Should the DT version be dumped as totally incorrect and worthless? What should be submitted to the DT as "definitive"? -Joe Offer- Here is the entry from the Traditional Ballad Index, which isn't very helpful: Byker HillDESCRIPTION: Dance tune with sketchy narrative; singer's wife sits up late drinking. Singer asks her to return home (bringing the beer). He also tells of working in Walker Pit and the poor wages for coal-cutters, singing ironically "Walker Pit's done well by me."AUTHOR: unknown EARLIEST DATE: 1812 (John Bell, "Rhymes of Northern Bards") LONG DESCRIPTION: Usually a dance tune (in 2-2-2-3 time!), but with sketchy narrative; singer's wife sits up late drinking, neglecting home and family. Singer pleads with her to return home (but to bring the beer with her). He also tells of working in Walker Pit and the poor wages for coal-cutters, singing ironically "Walker Pit's done well by me," and a verse of "Geordie Charlton he had a pig/He hit it with a shovel and it danced a jig" KEYWORDS: mining work drink wife worker FOUND IN: Britain(England(North)) REFERENCES (1 citation): DT, BYKERHIL* Roud #3488 RECORDINGS: A. L. Lloyd, "Walker Shore and Byker Hill" (on Lloyd1); "Walker Hill and Byker Shore" (on Lloyd3) CROSS-REFERENCES: cf. "My Dearie Sits Ower Late Up" (tune) cf. "Elslie Marley" (tune) ALTERNATE TITLES: Byker Hill and Walker Shore File: DTbykerh Go to the Ballad Search form The Ballad Index Copyright 2003 by Robert B. Waltz and David G. Engle. |
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Subject: RE: Byker Hill: background info anyone? From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 20 Nov 03 - 02:54 PM Refresh |
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Subject: RE: Byker Hill: background info anyone? From: IanC Date: 03 Jul 01 - 04:41 AM Jeri Oops - finger dyslexia! Young Tradition it is. |
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Subject: RE: Byker Hill: background info anyone? From: Joe_F Date: 02 Jul 01 - 06:15 PM I have even heard tell of a simple lad who thought that Tawney was _alluding_ to this song -- you know, "dance on down that Walker Shore". The pig suffered quite a sea change on its trip across the Atlantic: ---- had a little dog, The which was double-jointed. He took it to the barbershop To have its pecker pointed. -- sung to the tune of Yankee Doodle by children in California, ca. 1945. |
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Subject: RE: Byker Hill: background info anyone? From: Jeri Date: 02 Jul 01 - 05:53 PM IanC - "Young Generation?" I've heard the Young Tradition version, and the NexTradition one with Heather Wood singing harmony. They sound similar except for the different voices, and I like both a lot. |
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Subject: RE: Byker Hill: background info anyone? From: JeZeBeL Date: 02 Jul 01 - 03:27 PM Wow, this takes me back to where I spent the last year and a half. I know all the facts are spread true through here but, yes it's a mining song, but one thing that always puzzles me is that Walker doesn't have a shore which is quite strange, unless it is refering to the shores of the tyne...hmmm, interesting thought. Byker Hill is what is now known as Byker Bank I think and it lays at the side of Byker Wall, a big ugly strange wall of houses that was way ahead of it's time when it was built in the sixties. Funnily enough there is a great pub called THE CUMBERLAND ARMS on Byker Hill which has a fantastic traditional music night on a Wednesday and any other night of the week people care to go with instruments. The landlord and Landlady are great and if you were to go in they could tell you the whole story of the song. They'll even show you the words they have framed on the side of the bar. I used to have to borrow them when we sang it in the session till I learnt all the words!! Good luck. Emma xxx |
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Subject: RE: Byker Hill: background info anyone? From: English Jon Date: 02 Jul 01 - 01:00 PM Specifically, a marrer was the chap you worked with on a coal trolley. If you were going uphill, and your marrer (at the top end of the trolley) let go, then you were in deep shit, or more accurately, deep coal. Such accidents were not uncommon, and often fatal, so a marrer became a term for one who can be trusted implicitly. anyone else come across: Geordie Johnson had a pig and it was double jointed (way haual away, well haul away joe) He took it to the blacksmith's shop To get it's trotters pointed: (way haul away, well haul away joe) I'm pretty certain A.L.Lloyd was carthy's source for Ma Ginny/Byker Hill. Anyone who hasn't got that carthy album really should get it, also life and limb which has the most fabulously overblown guitar intro to the song, Starting on the VI of II!!! very clever, especially at the recapitulation. EJ |
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Subject: RE: Byker Hill: background info anyone? From: A Wandering Minstrel Date: 02 Jul 01 - 11:14 AM A marrer or marra is a companion or close friend. In mining days it was usually your nearest workmate as recalled in the opening line of "Colliers Rant" "As me and me Marra was gannin te wark..." |
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Subject: RE: Byker Hill: background info anyone? From: GeorgeH Date: 02 Jul 01 - 06:51 AM Sorry, Malcolm, I mis-read you las time round! G. |
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Subject: RE: Byker Hill: background info anyone? From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 02 Jul 01 - 06:26 AM He does indeed, as I pointed out. |
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Subject: RE: Byker Hill: background info anyone? From: GeorgeH Date: 02 Jul 01 - 05:12 AM Malcom . . Doesn't Carthy acknowledge Bert Lloyd as his source on the sleeve notes to "Byker Hill"?? This is from memory (unreliable at the best of times) but I believe Lloyd certainly gets a mention somewhere on that album. George |
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Subject: RE: Byker Hill: background info anyone? From: IanC Date: 02 Jul 01 - 05:02 AM Bobby's girl I agree. I've heard her once or twice at Straw Bear, and she's brilliant.
Cheers! PS Has anyone mentioned the "Young Generation" version? |
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Subject: RE: Byker Hill: background info anyone? From: Jeri Date: 01 Jul 01 - 11:22 PM Thanks Malcolm. Do you know what a "marrer" is? (Third verse.) I hope someone who knows Lloyd or Carthy's version comments on the tunes. The two sound quite different to me, and I believe Dorrington lads is the one Carthy sings. |
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Subject: Lyr Add: WALKER HILL AND BYKER SHORE From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 01 Jul 01 - 10:00 PM It may well have been Bert Lloyd who originally combined Byker Hill and My Dearie Sits Ower Late Up; in his notes to Come All You Bold Miners (revised edition, 1978), he comments: "Other melodies [than Off She Goes] have been attached to these words of recent years, including the tune of the American camp-meeting hymn Where are the Hebrew Children (see The Southern Harmony and Musical Companion, New Haven, Conn., 1835, p.266) and a version of the north-eastern dance tune My Dearie (laddie, lassie) sits ower late up." These vague statements, when he makes them, often turn out to refer to himself. The American tune I'm not familiar with; could it be the one Sandy got from Redd Sullivan? It might explain this anecdote earlier in the thread. A recording of Lloyd singing Byker Hill (date unknown; from Peter Bellamy's collection) appears on Classic A.L. Lloyd (Fellside Records FECD98, 1994). Martin Carthy stated in his notes to Byker Hill ( , borrowed from Garry Gillard's transcription): "The words are an amalgam of a version I learned years ago while playing with the Thameside Four, and the version sung by A.L. Lloyd." Of the transcription Jeri quotes from Garry, Lloyd sang forms of verses 2, 3, 4, 6 and 7, beginning with the chorus, as follows: WALKER HILL AND BYKER SHORE (As recorded by A.L. Lloyd; source unspecified.) Chorus: Oh Walker Hill and Byker Shore, me boys Collier lads for ever more, me boys Walker Hill and Byker Shore, me boys Collier lads for ever more. My lassie she sits ower late up, My hinney she sits ower late up, My Ginny she sits out ower late up, Betwixt the pint pot and the cup. And down the pits we'll go me laddies And down the pits we'll go me marrers; We'll try our will and use our skill To cut them ridges down below. Chorus My lassie she is never near, My hinney she is never near; And when I call out, "Where's me supper?" She orders up another pint of beer. Hey Ginny come home to your little baby, Hey hinney come home to your little baby, Hey Ginny come home to your little baby, With a pint of beer all under your arm. Chorus The poor coal cutter gets two shillings, The deputy gets half a crown And the overman gets five and sixpence, Lads, just for riding up and down. Chorus It looks as if Bert was behind the mutation, then, as is so often the case when things get confusing. Incidentally, I rather think that Garry's transcription (as quoted by Jeri above) needs to omit out in lines 1, 2 and 3 of verse 2; carter in verse 7 should be cutter. For the sake of completeness, here is the text of My Dearie Sits Ower Late Up, given in Northumbrian Minstrelsy (Bruce and Stokoe, 1882; reprinted Llanerch Press, 1998): MY DEARIE SHE SITS OWER LATE UP; OR, MY BONNIE BAY MARE AND I My dearie sits ower late up, My hinney sits ower late up, My laddy sits ower late up, Betwixt the pint pot and the cup. Hey! Johnnie, come hame to your bairn, Hey! Johnnie, come hame to your bairn, Hey! Johnnie, come hame to your bairn, Wiv a rye loaf under your airm. He addles three ha'pence a week, That's nobbut a farthing a day, He sits with his pipe in his cheek, And he fuddles his money away. My laddy is never the near, My hinney is never the near, And when I cry out "lad cum hame," He calls oot again for mair beer. The editors commented: "This nursery song is thoroughly local, and dates from about the beginning of the last century. There is such an insignificant difference between the above tune and Dorrington Lads, that they are usually taken to be the same air. As it is, however, better to err in repitition than in omission, we have included both, premising that we have been unable to settle the question of priority of date." Malcolm |
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Subject: RE: Byker Hill: background info anyone? From: GUEST,Graham Pirt Date: 01 Jul 01 - 09:02 PM Fascinating discussion that I've just caught up with. All the correct facts are spread throughout the threads! So take your pick. However, in defence of Elsie (Alice) Marley, she didn't frequent the newcastle Quays but was wife of the landlord of The Barley Mow Inn at Pictree near Chester-le-Street in County Durham, hence the reference to the Lambton lads. (Lord Lambton). She had a sad end "...being in a fever, got out of her house, went into a field where ther was an old pit full of water which she fell into and drowned." - August 5 1768 (Sykes Local Records) Also, strangely Wallsend is not where Hadrian's Wall ended but where it started! Wallstart just doesn't sound right! |
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Subject: RE: Byker Hill: background info anyone? From: bobby's girl Date: 01 Jul 01 - 06:45 PM The best version I ever heard of Byker Hill was performed by Seven Champions Molly Dancers. their music was provided by a single girl singer with a beautiful voice singing the song unaccompanied while they danced their brilliant steps to it. For those who have never seen Molly dancing and Champs in particular, the dances all have a very regular single step style, danced in hobnail boots, which picked up the rhythm of the tune perfectly. Champs are (or were, as I haven't seen them for several years)the best exponents of the Molly style, and the song fitted their style perfectly |
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Subject: TUNE: My Dearie Sits Up Ower Late From: Jeri Date: 01 Jul 01 - 10:42 AM MIDI file: MDEARIE.MID Timebase: 120 Name: untitled This program is worth the effort of learning it. To download the latest version of MIDItext and get instructions on how to use it click here ABC format: X:1
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Subject: TUNE: Dorrington Lads From: Jeri Date: 01 Jul 01 - 10:35 AM Abby Sale sent me scanned pages from Northumbrian Minstrelsy way back in December, and I did the MIDIs from them. My Dearie Sits Up Ower Late has a tune that's similar to Dorrington Lads, a small pipe tune. The tune Martin Carthy used sounds to me like the tune (just the A part) of Dorrington Lads. I think he combined Byker Hill and My Dearie Sits Up Ower Late and set them to Dorrington Lads. For your consideration, I'm posting the A part of Dorrington Lads (which I think is THE tune, and the full version below it. I'll post the tune to My Dearie in a separate message. Warning: The ABC's look FUBAR. Please feel free to comment. Did I get this right? MIDI file: DORRIN~A.MID Timebase: 120 Name: Dorrington Lads (A Part) This program is worth the effort of learning it. To download the latest version of MIDItext and get instructions on how to use it click here ABC format: X:1
And the full version: MIDI file: DORRING.MID Timebase: 120 Name: Dorrington Lads This program is worth the effort of learning it. To download the latest version of MIDItext and get instructions on how to use it click here ABC format: X:1
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Subject: Lyr Add: BYKER HILL (Martin Carthy Version) From: Jeri Date: 01 Jul 01 - 10:10 AM BYKER HILL Arrangement by Martin Carthy If I had another penny I would have another gill And I would make the piper play The bonny lass of Byker Hill Chorus Byker Hill and Walker Shore, me lads Collier lads for ever more, me boys Byker Hill and Walker Shore, me lads Corrections by Malcolm Douglas (see message below) incorporated. --JoeClone |
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Subject: RE: Byker Hill: background info anyone? From: A Wandering Minstrel Date: 08 Dec 00 - 11:38 AM George Henderson, Thanks for the corroboration. Ah the heady days of the 37 trolley! There is in fact part of a gravity feed railway still in existence under the city. I say part because it was unfortunately transected by the new metro lines in two places.(Haymarket and Greys Monument) This ran from Spital Tongues down to the staithes below the Milk Market and was underground the whole way. During WWII it was used as a bomb shelter and a number of blast walls were built across the tunnel. There was an access point in the grounds of the Hancock Museum from which one could walk the upper reaches although it was bricked off at the colliery end. Further details can be got from the Newcastle Societiy of Antiqities Minstrel |
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Subject: RE: Byker Hill: background info anyone? From: Sapper_RE Date: 08 Dec 00 - 08:40 AM To Mandola Man Newcastle was never the county town of Newcastle. That has always been Alnwick, seat of the Earls (now Dukes) of Northumberland. Newcastle was, before the Local Government reoganisation in '74, a County Borough, a self contained county. When I sing Byker Hill by the way, I do it more as a chant, the way I first heard it way back in the early '70s. |
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Subject: RE: Byker Hill: background info anyone? From: GeorgeH Date: 08 Dec 00 - 07:54 AM Yes, Sandy - despite Anglo's comments there are many recordings like that in OUR collection, too . . Though I suspect yours is several cuts above most of them . . G. |
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Subject: RE: Byker Hill: background info anyone? From: GUEST,ritchie Date: 08 Dec 00 - 07:46 AM Nice one conrad, very clivoor, There's a great video on Amber Films by Sylvia K called Byker, which is about the demolition of the area before they built the 'Wall' some of the characters are 'spiffing'.Also Listen to Bob Fox and Stu Luckley for some great 'Geordie songs'with brilliant arrangements.On Bob Fox's new cd he does a good version of 'big river' with nice little tunes at the end.And finally ,one of Walkers favourite sons, Eric Burdon of the Animals used to sing, 'I'm gonna send you back to Walker, that's where you belong.....' Ha, so now this is a blues thread as well. aal the best Ritchie.
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Subject: RE: Byker Hill: background info anyone? From: Sandy Paton Date: 07 Dec 00 - 07:44 PM The one with that song on it that I made for Elektra in my wayward youth should NOT be in ANYONE'S collection. Believe me! Sandy (much older, but only a little wiser) |
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Subject: RE: Byker Hill: background info anyone? From: Jeri Date: 07 Dec 00 - 06:24 PM Abby sent me My Dearie Sits Up Ower Late (lyrics and dots), and Dorrington Lads (dots) Both tunes are very similar, and close to what I wrote above. Sort of, almost. Anyway, I can do a midi. |
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Subject: RE: Byker Hill: background info anyone? From: Anglo Date: 05 Dec 00 - 11:40 AM Yes George, and all my recordings should be in everyone's collection too :-) |
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Subject: RE: Byker Hill: background info anyone? From: GeorgeH Date: 05 Dec 00 - 10:11 AM The album of Byker Hill is available on CD and should be in everyone's collection, so there should be no need for ABCs or any other transcriptions . . (I'm talking the Carthy/Swarbrick one here, and it really IS that good; it would certainly be in our top 10 all time best albums. And we had to replace it after our son took the original CD copy off to University with him . . ) G |
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Subject: Tune Add: BYKER HILL From: Jeri Date: 04 Dec 00 - 05:07 PM For anyone wot's got ABC, or wants to try it anyway. It's pretty simple, and you can probably figure this one out without having a program. 'z' is a rest, and the baby 'c' means it goes up:
T:Byker Hill
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Subject: RE: Byker Hill: background info anyone? From: Jeri Date: 04 Dec 00 - 03:41 PM Off She Goes goes "bum-ty, bum-ty, bum titty bum."
The 9/8 tune I'm thinking of, the lyrics sort of fit: If you want to scan and send, clicky here to e-mail. I could send a .wav or RealAudio (smaller) of me valiantly trying to sing the one I'm talking about. |
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