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Good wishes at Passover

Mark Cohen 06 Apr 01 - 10:37 PM
Chanteyranger 06 Apr 01 - 10:50 PM
Susan from California 06 Apr 01 - 10:53 PM
Susan from California 06 Apr 01 - 10:54 PM
Susan from California 06 Apr 01 - 10:59 PM
Chanteyranger 06 Apr 01 - 11:08 PM
Little Neophyte 06 Apr 01 - 11:09 PM
katlaughing 06 Apr 01 - 11:19 PM
wysiwyg 07 Apr 01 - 12:27 AM
CarolC 07 Apr 01 - 12:30 AM
GUEST,marty D 07 Apr 01 - 12:55 AM
Jack The Lad 07 Apr 01 - 04:24 AM
bflat 07 Apr 01 - 11:48 AM
Gypsy 07 Apr 01 - 12:26 PM
Ebbie 07 Apr 01 - 09:01 PM
Joe Offer 08 Apr 01 - 01:01 AM
Sorcha 08 Apr 01 - 01:41 AM
GUEST,Paulinel 08 Apr 01 - 03:55 AM
Melani 08 Apr 01 - 05:33 AM
GUEST,Mark Cohen in Kona 08 Apr 01 - 03:19 PM
Suffet 06 Apr 04 - 05:41 PM
TheBigPinkLad 06 Apr 04 - 05:46 PM
Peace 06 Apr 04 - 06:10 PM
GUEST,rangersteve at work 06 Apr 04 - 06:30 PM
Alba 06 Apr 04 - 06:41 PM
Mark Clark 06 Apr 04 - 09:10 PM
wysiwyg 06 Apr 04 - 10:01 PM
Once Famous 06 Apr 04 - 10:57 PM
Little Hawk 06 Apr 04 - 11:07 PM
musicmick 07 Apr 04 - 01:02 AM
Ellenpoly 07 Apr 04 - 03:58 AM
Dave Bryant 07 Apr 04 - 06:56 AM
GUEST,Lilyfestre 07 Apr 04 - 10:45 AM
Lady Hillary 07 Apr 04 - 12:10 PM
Chief Chaos 07 Apr 04 - 02:23 PM
Jack The Lad 07 Apr 04 - 04:04 PM
musicmick 07 Apr 04 - 05:48 PM
Once Famous 07 Apr 04 - 05:53 PM
GUEST,Alaska Jews (unfrozen chosen0 07 Apr 04 - 05:54 PM
Little Hawk 07 Apr 04 - 07:00 PM
Bill Hahn//\\ 07 Apr 04 - 07:14 PM
McGrath of Harlow 07 Apr 04 - 07:19 PM
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Subject: Good wishes at Passover
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 06 Apr 01 - 10:37 PM

Since for some of you it's already the evening of the 7th, which is the first night of Passover (or Pesach), I'd like to offer a wish and a blessing for joy and peace and freedom at this season of rebirth. As Jews throughout the world celebrate this oldest festival of our calendar, and remember when we were delivered from slavery, may all who are oppressed, from without or from within, find the hope and strength to continue their search for freedom. And may those of us who do enjoy freedom reach out with our hands or our hearts to help in some small way with the process of Tikkun Olam -- repairing the world.

Aloha,
Mark


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Subject: RE: Good wishes at Passover
From: Chanteyranger
Date: 06 Apr 01 - 10:50 PM

Dayenu!

-chanteyranger


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Subject: RE: Good wishes at Passover
From: Susan from California
Date: 06 Apr 01 - 10:53 PM

Mark, Lovely thoughts, thank you for reminding me that passover is here.

Sue


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Subject: RE: Good wishes at Passover
From: Susan from California
Date: 06 Apr 01 - 10:54 PM

AMEN


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Subject: RE: Good wishes at Passover
From: Susan from California
Date: 06 Apr 01 - 10:59 PM

Now darnit, I stopped the transmission BEFORE I thought it went through on the first one...but then after I posted the 2nd, I thought yikes,maybe saying "Amen" would offend someone so now I look really dopey. Oh well, it is a Friday night, and I'm sitting at home doing this. SORRY!


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Subject: RE: Good wishes at Passover
From: Chanteyranger
Date: 06 Apr 01 - 11:08 PM

Susan, no problem. We say "amen" too. We just pronounce the "A" as in "father" and the "e" as in "hey" during services, and regardless, any expression of support to those thoughts are appropriate, in 'ol chanteyranger's book.

-chanteyranger


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Subject: RE: Good wishes at Passover
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 06 Apr 01 - 11:09 PM

What beautiful thoughts Mark. Something for me to think about and aspire to.

Right now I am up to my ears in matzo meal. Got to get that 7 layer double chocolate matzah cake baked in time for the sedar tomorrow night.
I figure we should start a thread for '100 Ways To Use Left Over Matzo Meal'. How about wall paper paste for starters.

Little Neo


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Subject: RE: Good wishes at Passover
From: katlaughing
Date: 06 Apr 01 - 11:19 PM

Good wishes to you, all, indeed. Have a lovely sedar, LilNeo and everyone else.

Blessed Be, Namaste, Peace!

kat


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Subject: RE: Good wishes at Passover
From: wysiwyg
Date: 07 Apr 01 - 12:27 AM

Last year at this time I was wishing I had saved a lovely Haggadah done by a young friend years and years ago. Yesterday afternoon, it came to light as I was cleaning up files packed away in that time... if not for our fire, and the need to check through the old papers to see what was still salvageable from workshops and consulting work I had done, I might never have found it. Timing is sure interesting, eh? [Twilight Zone music fades in and out]

And shall I post the Haggadah? I was thinking of word-processing it anyhow, since I have just the one poorly-xeroxed copy. It was written to reflect the particular understandings of a young Jewish man I knew in the late 80's who was deeply engaged in what was, at that time, a frontier approach to diversity work that stretched all the way to the Arab-Istraeli conflict. So it is, how shall I say, slightly "alternative." And thus, I think, perfectly reflective of the folk process and this place we call... The Mudcat. (Twilght Zone music fades in and out, slightly affected by what we call... The Folk Process.)

And yesterday morning, as I was sorting AGAIN through the boxes of audio tapes to finish the assembly of the Gospel Tape Library, a cassette I had never unwrapped or noticed came into view, of Family Seder Songs. It may have been one the kids had before moving out, or it may have been given to Hardi sometime... these sorts of things seem to have ways of coming into our possession most oddly!

The songs seem to be in Hebrew and Yiddish, although each is introduced with an extremely brief explanation in English... so I can't post them, but if someone would like to transcribe them, I'll send it to you.

With some of the current forum negativity inviting our attention, perhaps this will turn out to be a thread that sets a good example of friendly celebration in the face of ugliness. It sure has begun that way.

I think it's too late to pull a Seder together for the Mudcat for this year, but maybe next year we could have a thread that acts as a Seder... like a running commentary on the Haggadah and memories of past Seders, what the parts mean, other pieces of the tradition that may be in people's hearts... "Next year, at Mudcat." Or maybe next year we will plan our spring Gathering to include Seder. Just a thought.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: Good wishes at Passover
From: CarolC
Date: 07 Apr 01 - 12:30 AM

And to you... best wishes to all.

Carol


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Subject: RE: Good wishes at Passover
From: GUEST,marty D
Date: 07 Apr 01 - 12:55 AM

What a surprise. And the best to you.

Martin


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Subject: RE: Good wishes at Passover
From: Jack The Lad
Date: 07 Apr 01 - 04:24 AM

Pesach Blessings to you all- May we all enjoy Peace and Freedom wherever we are, whover we are. Shalom, Salaam, Jack the Lad, in Israel


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Subject: RE: Good wishes at Passover
From: bflat
Date: 07 Apr 01 - 11:48 AM

A joyful Passover wish to you. Echoing Kat, namaste!

Ellen


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Subject: RE: Good wishes at Passover
From: Gypsy
Date: 07 Apr 01 - 12:26 PM

A wonderful time of reflection for all. Shalom


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Subject: RE: Good wishes at Passover
From: Ebbie
Date: 07 Apr 01 - 09:01 PM

Thanks for the lovely blessing, Mark C. May it be.

Ebbie


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Subject: RE: Good wishes at Passover
From: Joe Offer
Date: 08 Apr 01 - 01:01 AM

Good Pesach, Mark. My friend Mrs. Lev is having a Seder with her family - but after Easter, I get to go to her house for matzo ball soup and gefilte fish. L'Chaim!
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Good wishes at Passover
From: Sorcha
Date: 08 Apr 01 - 01:41 AM

Good Pesach to all. May the Dark Angel pass over all of us in this coming year.


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Subject: RE: Good wishes at Passover
From: GUEST,Paulinel
Date: 08 Apr 01 - 03:55 AM

Sorcha said, "...May the Dark Angel pass over all of us...", and two thoughts came to my mind. One is the folkie equivalent of what she said, "Hard Times Come Again No More." There other is that I'm glad you made your blessing/wish/hope inclusive by saying "all of us." Now I join my voice with yours.


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Subject: RE: Good wishes at Passover
From: Melani
Date: 08 Apr 01 - 05:33 AM

I'm eating the first matzah of the season as I type, trying not to get crumbs in the keyboard. Happy Holidays to you all!


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Subject: RE: Good wishes at Passover
From: GUEST,Mark Cohen in Kona
Date: 08 Apr 01 - 03:19 PM

Thanks all for echoing and strengthening this message. Last night I participated in a community seder that was held in an open-air pavilion right on the ocean, with about 75 participants, some from the local area and others from San Francisco and Massachusetts and Alaska and elsewhere. It was a magical setting and a joyous gathering. There was a klezmer band providing entertainment, and I got to join in a spontaneous three-part rendition of the hymn Adir Hu. And when we rose to welcome Elijah, we didn't have to open the door: there weren't any doors!

May all of us continue to share in the joy and renewal of this season.

Aloha,
Mark


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Subject: RE: Good wishes at Passover
From: Suffet
Date: 06 Apr 04 - 05:41 PM

Greetings!

For the Passover, please consider that Jerusalem literally means City of Peace. If the song strikes you as familiar, it's because it appeared in Sassafras, the People's Music Network newsletter, a while back complete with melody and chords.

NEXT YEAR IN A CITY OF PEACE
New words by Stephen L. Suffet ©2000
Music based on THERE'S A MAN GOING ROUND TAKING NAMES
(traditional African-American spiritual as sung by Paul Robeson)

Next year in a City of Peace,
Next year in a City of Peace,
Dear God hear our pleas,
And make this fighting cease,
Next year in a City of Peace.

Next year in a City of Hope,
Next year in a City of Hope,
Dear God high above,
Please teach us how to love,
Next year in a City of Hope.

Next year in a City of Trust,
Next year in a City of Trust,
God by any name,
We're Thy children just the same,
Next year in a City of Trust.

Next year in a City for All,
Next year in a City for All,
Dear God hear our prayer,
And teach us how to share,
Next year in a City for All.

Next year in a City of Peace,
Next year in a City of Peace,
Dear God hear our pleas,
And make this fighting cease,
Next year in a City of Peace.


I don't write many songs with God in them, so you better catch this one while you can.

Shalom,
Shlomo ha-Shofit Ben-Yosef
(or something like that)
a/k/a Steve Suffet


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Subject: RE: Good wishes at Passover
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 06 Apr 04 - 05:46 PM

Best wishes and peace from the atheists, too!


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Subject: RE: Good wishes at Passover
From: Peace
Date: 06 Apr 04 - 06:10 PM

Shalom.


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Subject: RE: Good wishes at Passover
From: GUEST,rangersteve at work
Date: 06 Apr 04 - 06:30 PM

Happy Passover


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Subject: RE: Good wishes at Passover
From: Alba
Date: 06 Apr 04 - 06:41 PM

Brightest Blessings and Happy Passover
Jude


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Subject: RE: Good wishes at Passover
From: Mark Clark
Date: 06 Apr 04 - 09:10 PM

Wonderful thoughts and great thread, Mark. Thanks. And a happy Passover to you as well. Christians have largely forgotten but the correct name for their holiday is Pascha (not Easter), a Greek word meaning Passover.

      - Mark


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Subject: RE: Good wishes at Passover
From: wysiwyg
Date: 06 Apr 04 - 10:01 PM

We light the Paschal candle in our church; we say that Christ our Passover is sacrificed for us; we talk of the Paschal Lamb, the Paschal Feast.... the Episcopal Church has not forgotten.

Blessings, Mark and Mark.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: Good wishes at Passover
From: Once Famous
Date: 06 Apr 04 - 10:57 PM

This is nice to see.

Good yuntov. Next year in Israel. Just finished our second night seder. What a blessing.


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Subject: RE: Good wishes at Passover
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Apr 04 - 11:07 PM

Hmmm. I wasn't brought up with any awareness of this occasion (being born into an atheistic, WASP family), but, hey...have a good one! Jerusalem is a beautiful-sounding word.


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Subject: RE: Good wishes at Passover
From: musicmick
Date: 07 Apr 04 - 01:02 AM

B'shana ha ba'a b'irushalayim.
Shalom alenu v'alechem.
Gee, it's tough writing this from left to right.
I hope that next year finds us in Jerusalem. I wish peace to us and to you. I pray that we forgive our enemies and that they forgive us.
I really believe that peace will come in our time.


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Subject: RE: Good wishes at Passover
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 07 Apr 04 - 03:58 AM

I was fortunate enough to spend Pesach with an Egyptian Sephardic family one year in Jerusalem. I didn't understand a word said that night, but the good feelings were palpable. It is here on this thread as well. Good yontov to all, and peace to our world..xx..e


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Subject: RE: Good wishes at Passover
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 07 Apr 04 - 06:56 AM

Have a good passover, but spare a thought for poor old Elijah's liver the next day !


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Subject: RE: Good wishes at Passover
From: GUEST,Lilyfestre
Date: 07 Apr 04 - 10:45 AM

What a beautiful thread. :)
Peace to all.

Michelle


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Subject: RE: Good wishes at Passover
From: Lady Hillary
Date: 07 Apr 04 - 12:10 PM

EBarnacle here, just so that you can drool, here's our menu from the first night:

Charoses: Walnuts, apples, almonds, cashews, red wine and a little   Maneschevitz.
Maror: Ground horseradish done on a hand grater, Balsamic vinegar or white vinegar depending on how fiery you want it.
Gefilte fish: Went out and bought a wild gefilte from Rokeach.
Lamb shank
Hard Boiled egg.
Celery greens
Tzimmis: Cooked down carrots, prunes, peaches, mango with honey and spices.
Green salad with snow peas, sprouts, etc.
Turkey, slow cooked. filled with oranges but no other spices or herbs.
Stuffing made of matzoh, celery, eggs, onions, mushrooms.
Shmurah Matzohs.

Enjoy, enjoy. it's a pleasure to cook for you. EB


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Subject: RE: Good wishes at Passover
From: Chief Chaos
Date: 07 Apr 04 - 02:23 PM

I know no Hebrew or Yiddish,
I have no words to inspire or to endear
I share only the history that binds us all
In this time of shadows and sadness may troubles find your homes blessed and turn away.

To all of you I offer my hand
To all of you I offer my heart
To all of you I offer my prayers
In this time of reflection of what was and dreaming of what may be may we all begin the journey of peace within ourselves and embrace it in others.

David


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Subject: RE: Good wishes at Passover
From: Jack The Lad
Date: 07 Apr 04 - 04:04 PM

Amen VeAmen to all of your beautiful words here.
We shall not cease to strive for peace,
In spring we were freed from slavery,
May we gain the wisdom to free ourselves and all others
from slavery, from tyrrany, from terror and fear.
This spring, this summer, speedily and in our time.
Jack The Lad


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Subject: RE: Good wishes at Passover
From: musicmick
Date: 07 Apr 04 - 05:48 PM

I thank those who posted this lovely thread and those who have shared their Passover thoughts. This is the time for Jews to rededicate themselves to that which is best in our heritage, love of family and an unending regard for those who are, yet, enslaved. Our security can never be attained without a sense of justice and rightiousness.
Ein shalom bli shalom l'col ha'olam. (There can be no peace without peace for everyone).


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Subject: RE: Good wishes at Passover
From: Once Famous
Date: 07 Apr 04 - 05:53 PM

L'dor va dor
(from generation to generation)


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Subject: RE: Good wishes at Passover
From: GUEST,Alaska Jews (unfrozen chosen0
Date: 07 Apr 04 - 05:54 PM

Try making gefilte fish with salmon this year.


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Subject: RE: Good wishes at Passover
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Apr 04 - 07:00 PM

I know a very useful hebrew word: Shalom! And in Arabic: Salaam!


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Subject: RE: Good wishes at Passover
From: Bill Hahn//\\
Date: 07 Apr 04 - 07:14 PM

A joyous Passover to all---and also a Glorious Easter.

In celebration I shall, as I do each year, start my program (TRADITIONS) with a celebration of the confluence of these two holidays that usher in the re-birth of the world and spring.
Have eggs at the ready---for Easter and for the final days of your Seders.   The symbolism is wonderful

Some of the musical selections may surprise you.

In addition---non Passover related---Eliza Gilkyson will be my guest on the program.

This all occurs this Sunday 3-6 EDT and streaming on the web:

http://www.wfdu.fm

I hope you will be able to join us wherever you are.

Once again---a joyous and glorious holiday period to all


Bill Hahn
Producer/Host
Traditions
WFDU 89.1 FM
Teaneck NJ


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Subject: RE: Good wishes at Passover
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 07 Apr 04 - 07:19 PM

How could Amen offend anyone? It's a word to unite people. Christians say it, Jews say it, Muslims say it. Three versions of the same religion. (Sibling rivalry can be a right bugger sometimes.)


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