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MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.

GUEST,Idle Musings 11 Apr 01 - 11:59 AM
GUEST,Matt_R 11 Apr 01 - 12:03 PM
MMario 11 Apr 01 - 12:10 PM
Jeri 11 Apr 01 - 12:13 PM
Hollowfox 11 Apr 01 - 12:18 PM
JudeL 11 Apr 01 - 12:21 PM
Rick Fielding 11 Apr 01 - 12:21 PM
Bert 11 Apr 01 - 12:24 PM
mousethief 11 Apr 01 - 12:27 PM
GUEST,Matt_R 11 Apr 01 - 12:28 PM
mousethief 11 Apr 01 - 12:33 PM
Amergin 11 Apr 01 - 12:36 PM
mousethief 11 Apr 01 - 12:42 PM
Pseudolus 11 Apr 01 - 01:02 PM
mousethief 11 Apr 01 - 01:12 PM
wysiwyg 11 Apr 01 - 01:20 PM
Naemanson 11 Apr 01 - 01:52 PM
Lyrical Lady 11 Apr 01 - 02:19 PM
Amergin 11 Apr 01 - 02:21 PM
catspaw49 11 Apr 01 - 02:36 PM
Hollowfox 11 Apr 01 - 02:37 PM
Rick Fielding 11 Apr 01 - 03:29 PM
JedMarum 11 Apr 01 - 03:39 PM
CarolC 11 Apr 01 - 04:55 PM
GUEST 11 Apr 01 - 04:58 PM
Murray MacLeod 11 Apr 01 - 05:03 PM
Rick Fielding 11 Apr 01 - 06:26 PM
Amergin 11 Apr 01 - 06:28 PM
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Peg 11 Apr 01 - 07:12 PM
Sorcha 11 Apr 01 - 07:52 PM
Bill D 11 Apr 01 - 07:54 PM
Big Mick 11 Apr 01 - 10:28 PM
catspaw49 11 Apr 01 - 10:39 PM
alison 11 Apr 01 - 11:40 PM
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katlaughing 12 Apr 01 - 01:33 AM
Amergin 12 Apr 01 - 01:36 AM
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mousethief 12 Apr 01 - 02:51 AM
Lepus Rex 12 Apr 01 - 02:55 AM
Amergin 12 Apr 01 - 03:08 AM
fat B****rd 12 Apr 01 - 03:14 AM
Gervase 12 Apr 01 - 07:02 AM
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Bagpuss 13 Apr 01 - 05:57 PM
Amos 13 Apr 01 - 06:03 PM
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Sorcha 14 Apr 01 - 12:36 AM
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Sorcha 14 Apr 01 - 12:52 AM
Melani 14 Apr 01 - 12:55 AM
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Sorcha 14 Apr 01 - 01:40 AM
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Subject: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: GUEST,Idle Musings
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 11:59 AM

There've been several occasions when I've wondered why some (all?) Mudcatters seem so different when you meet them from what they've projected on the forum. Question:

Is what you "see" on the screen, REALLY what you get, when someone meets you in person, or talks to you on the phone?


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: GUEST,Matt_R
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 12:03 PM

Different? Are you kidding? I've met 5 'Catters and they are exaclty like they are on here!


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: MMario
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 12:10 PM

I was just thinking the same Matt. - and I'm up to....uhmmmm -- well it's over a dozen and less then two dozen I think...


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Jeri
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 12:13 PM

I've had the opposite experience. Most of the Mudcatters I've met have had personalities that were consistent with the personality they seem to project on screen.

Reasons why they don't match up may include:
--They don't feel that comfortable writing in a style which experesses their personalities. I have a feeling some of our more serious, business-like members may actually be a bit shy. They may posses no personal warmth whatsoever, but they may just not feel comfortable expressing it.
--Your interpretation could be off. It's extremely easy to attibute qualities to a person from their writing. It's very hard to tell what a person really meant unless they meant exactly what they said. There's nothing else there, but I think it's human nature to fill in motives, emotions, personaltiy traits, etc. If you actually know the person, you may have a chance of being right. If you don't, you're more likely to be wrong.


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Hollowfox
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 12:18 PM

I've had neither contradictions nor unpleasant surprises when meeting any Mudcatters face-to-face, at least not yet. Say, Idle Musings, why don't you join, so we can get to know you?


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: JudeL
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 12:21 PM

There used to be a poster on the wall at work that said:

I know you think you understood what I said
the problem is ... What I said is not what I meant

definitly one for those of us ( myself included) that suffer from foot in mouth and brain out of gear disease


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 12:21 PM

Well I've met about thirty five now, and most are pretty consistent with their Cyber-face.

Little Hawk is much quieter and reserved than he is around here.

Carol C. seems shyer in person.

Peter T is funnier.

Catspaw is MUCH MORE RESERVED!

Bert is MUCH MORE ENGLISH!

I swear a LOT more (but in a harmless way!) and often play the fool to get laffs and loosen folks up.

Jeri is shy in person and VERY smart (as she is on MC)

Everyone else seems 'bout the same to me.

Rick


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Bert
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 12:24 PM

Gor Blimey!


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: mousethief
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 12:27 PM

I was once told, by someone I had met online and then in person, that I was the most consistent between my online and in-person "personalities" of anybody they had ever met.

I took it as a compliment.

Alex


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: GUEST,Matt_R
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 12:28 PM

And we ALL know who that was!!


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: mousethief
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 12:33 PM

Actually you don't; this was on a BBS in Silverdale, Washington.

Alex


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Amergin
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 12:36 PM

Well, I have met a few Catters....and there were no disappointments there....in fact they turned out better....


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: mousethief
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 12:42 PM

Spaw could only.


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Pseudolus
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 01:02 PM

I'm much thinner online than I am in person.....

Frank


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: mousethief
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 01:12 PM

LOL!


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 01:20 PM

I.M.,

from what they've projected on the forum

My experience has been that very few people here "project" a persona of themselves on this forum.

Do you?

Since I took WYSIWYG as my Mudcat name, I suppose I would hope that this is true of me, and I think nearly everyone who has taken the time to get to know me (including some who had flamed me once upon a time) would say that it is.

One thing implied in my name, BTW, is that what one chooses to see if often all they "get." You might want to think about it from that viewpoint for a bit.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Naemanson
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 01:52 PM

I've met a few 'Catters and generally you are seeing the real thing here. Some are more reserved in real life but that is as would be expected owing to the nature of the medium.


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Lyrical Lady
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 02:19 PM

I've only met one mudcatter ... and he is just as sincere and helpful in real life as he is 'on-line' ... I find him to be much sweeter and yes... even a bit shy in the real world. LL


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Amergin
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 02:21 PM

Oh and I forgot to mention....I'm alot sexier in person than I am here.....


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: catspaw49
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 02:36 PM

I am generally more or less the same, but as Naes rightly points out, the medium makes the difference at times. One on one with friends I rarely get too nutso and enjoy the listening and the easy camaraderie. My sailing partner of many years and I would often spend hours with fewer than 10 words spoken.

But as the audience increases I get more into the spirit of games and quick reponses or outrageousness. Maybe its the latent class clown thing or something. Add in a few folks who can be either ribbed or embarassed and I'm on. Its all me, just at different times. I think that's true here too.

On some threads with only limited interest and few participants, I'm a lot more reserved than on one that's likely to draw a crowd. Its not so much an "image" or a "persona" as it is different ways of reacting to different situations.

Spaw -- oh yeah, one more thing Cincinnati....

B O O G E R ! ! ! ! ! !


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Hollowfox
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 02:37 PM

I am too, Pseudolus.


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 03:29 PM

Well, since this is the day to talk about Catspaw, I WILL say I didn't expect him to have a broad Southern accent.

And Gawd help me, even though I know Big Mick is 100% Amurrican, I DID expect him to have an IRISH accent!!

Sure and Begorrah.

Rick


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: JedMarum
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 03:39 PM

I have met several Mudcatters and all, it has strikes me, match very closely to the personalities I knew on-line. No surprises.


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: CarolC
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 04:55 PM

Well, Rick, you're a lot of fun in the Mudcat, but you're even more fun in person. I think your fun kind of spontenaity works really well in the 3D world.

Yeah, I admit it. I'm a little shy... Surprise!


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 04:58 PM

I met Rick Fielding last year at a concert he gave. He seemed as nice in person as on Mudcat and the music was great.

But the smell of the ciggies on his breath: PHOOEY, PHOOEY, PHOOEY!


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 05:03 PM

I have never (to my knowledge) met another Mudcatter, but after having perused the Photo Album, I am struck by the fact that while most of the women look wonderful, the men whose postings make me laugh the most are all really ugly bozos.

Murray


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 06:26 PM

Damn! Where were those Certs when I needed them? Oh well, I'm not PROUD of being addicted. One less ticket sold, next time!

Smokey the Bear


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Amergin
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 06:28 PM

Ya know Rick, there's already a support group thread going on......


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: mousethief
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 06:30 PM

Proud to be ugly. :-)

ALex


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Peg
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 07:12 PM

I swear about as much in person as I do online... ;)


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Sorcha
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 07:52 PM

I do try, but deep down inside I really am an intolerant bitch.....I just don't express it often. More on line than in person, but not near as often as I think it!! It might be called maturity, but more likely it is self preservation.

I like being helpful, I like "providing" whether it be info, food, or what ever, but I cannot tolerate stupidity. Ignorance is fixable, and quite forgiveable, but I don't deal well with stupidity.(Uhh, what I mean here is the sterotypical "blonde/ValleyGirl syndrome--not a handicapped defiency, OK)

Bottom line is, I like to think I am an archetypal "MOM" , I want to help and fix it, but you have to help too. I have no idea if that is how I really come across here or not....."if we could see oursleves as other see us"...

I think we should ask bill/sables; he has met more of us in person than anyone else, hasn't he?


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Bill D
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 07:54 PM

I talk easier than I type, but I try VERY hard to project my mood, expression, attitude online....hence all the dots, underlinings, CAPS, *grins*...etc......

I make an attempt to make the sentence you read 'sound' like me talking, as I really hate being mis-understood.

Since I attend the FSGW Getaway, I have met 20-30 or so Mudcatters, and most of them were pretty close to what I expected, some a bit shyer, some less.

I do note that there are folks whom I admire & respect, but whom I doubt very much I would be 'buddies' with in person....just different approaches to conversation, life and 'personal space' issues. And there are a few I'd like VERY much to know better.....I think... *grin*)


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Big Mick
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 10:28 PM

I don't know how I come off in person as opposed to here. Probably the biggest difference is that I tend to share very deep feelings here. I liken it to writing in a journal and then letting my friends read it so they know my innermost feelings. Might seem odd, but I liken writing in the threads to sharing music. It is a way for me to let others see me, the real me, and not just the physical image I project. Sometimes it gets me in real trouble.

What that translates out to when I meet others is that I have seen their hearts and their feelings. The friendships that have blossomed out of that are too numerous to mention. And the day that I meet THE FAIR ONE, well, I will have to go to confession for sure....................LOL.

HEY FIELDING.............waddya mean I don't have a brogue????????????????????

All the best,

Mick


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: catspaw49
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 10:39 PM

Geeziz Mick.....I thought you had to confess sin, not making mouth noises sounding like "homidahomidahomida" and fainting dead away! I mean like, uh, are you sure that's a sin?

Spaw


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: alison
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 11:40 PM

lol

any of the ones I have met have been absolutely lovely. In the last year I met Mike Ireland, Annaroi, and TerryK, all lovely men...........

looking forwar to meeting a lot more.... maybe some year I'll tour the US.........

slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: GUEST,#1
Date: 12 Apr 01 - 01:02 AM

Hey, mousethief. Has everyone from Bremerville-by-the-Sound moved to Silverdale yet? The place just wasn't the same after Ed. Bremmer died. My sister worked for him for a while, but Bremerville had already started ti disintegrate. Downtown Bremerville moved to Silverdale Mall and the people in town followed. It looked like about 3/4 of them had moved the last time I was there.


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: GUEST,#1
Date: 12 Apr 01 - 01:06 AM

Forgot to ask if anyone here knew of the famous mathematician that coined 'cyber' (as in cybernetics)?


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: katlaughing
Date: 12 Apr 01 - 01:33 AM

This looks like an interesting article on the mathematician in question.

This has some very interesting info with links to more info about several of the important people connected to cybernetics.

Bill Sables, Allan C, and Sorcha were even more than I'd hoped for, in person, and very much like what I'd expected based on their postings. I knew Wyo Woman in 3D a little bit before Mudcat, but grew to know her even better because of Mudcat and can safely say she is very much in 3D as she is here!

There is no doubt in my mind that when I finally do get to meet several of the Mudcatters I feel closest to, that they will be just as I know them to be, probably better as they will have real arms to hug with and bod I can hug!:-)


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Amergin
Date: 12 Apr 01 - 01:36 AM

So are you saying that Scorch is even ornerier in person than she is here?


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: GUEST,#1
Date: 12 Apr 01 - 02:44 AM

I looked at a few of Norbert Weiner's books, but they weren't easy reading. The first started out on transformation properties of Abelian groups, as I remember. Shannon's 'Information Theory' is a bit easier, and I still have my copy of the original 1954 edition. The hitch is it's all about communication of messages, and ways to code them that minimizes the chances of noise distorting the messages, and has nothing to do with what an intelligent layman would call information. It paved the way to checking that's done here and on computer files by doing such things as cyclic redundancy checks, and such.


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: mousethief
Date: 12 Apr 01 - 02:51 AM

Yeah, Bremerton isn't quite as vibrant as it was before they built the Kitsap Mall. But it's still a lovely town, and really no less lovely for being quieter these days. Let the noisy mall-oriented types move away. If my job and family didn't conspire as they do to keep me in Sumner, I'd move to Bremerton in a flash.

Alex


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Lepus Rex
Date: 12 Apr 01 - 02:55 AM

Hmm. I don't think I post enough here to really have a 'Mudcat personality.' But in general, my 'online personality' is a lot like my real life version, but a bit more reserved. When people first meet me (in real life), I guess they might think I seem weird, and shy. Then as they get to know me, they find out that not only am I weird and shy, but that I'm also: Violently moody; Freakishly compassionate; Short-tempered; Un(anti)amitious; Immature; Puritanical (no, not in a religious way); Agnostic (yes, in a religious way); True Neutral (Heh-heh, D&D, *snort*); Opinionated; Hard to enjoy a television program with; Better in small doses; Fiercely loyal; Guilt-ridden; Not quite as dumb as you think; Not quite as smart as I think; Fucking long-winded, eh?; Ah, yes. Vulgar and loud-mouthed, too...; Etc.

Like I said, I don't post here all that much, so I'm not sure how much of my real-life personality shows through. But if it doesn't, now you know. ;)

---Lepus Rex


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Amergin
Date: 12 Apr 01 - 03:08 AM

Alex, I think the area you live in is rather lovely.....


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: fat B****rd
Date: 12 Apr 01 - 03:14 AM

LIke most people i onl;y have an inkling of how others perceive me, and if i do get told something i don't like i only deny it in public and want to kill whoever said it in private. i like a certain anonymity which is provided by the Mudcat. but i must own up to a certain amount of hurt feelings if cyber-rebuked. PS would the guy who busks with his 12 string in York post again as i'll be visiting soon.


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Gervase
Date: 12 Apr 01 - 07:02 AM

Pompous pedantic curmudgeon online, pompous pedantic curmudgeon in the flesh; that's me.
One thing about meeting 'Catters in the real world is that, having known them from their postings, a lot of the initial gaucheness and awkwardness is already out of the way and there's a feeling that you know them already.
And another good thing about an online folk club (speaking as someone who doesn't use PalTalk - I must get around to rigging one of the Macs to use it one day...) is that in cyberspace no-one knows how badly I sing!
Mind you, I got a shock when I realised that Liz the Squeak was actually a 6ft 4in prop forward with a bushy moustache and a duelling scar, and that Micca was a dead ringer for Julie Andrews... :^)


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 13 Apr 01 - 04:17 PM

Liz the Squeak's voice certainly doesn't sound as though it is emanating from a 6ft 4 in prop forward. Maybe that is just her speaking voice, I haven't heard her sing yet .....

Murray


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Bagpuss
Date: 13 Apr 01 - 05:57 PM

Just wondering - any of the people who have met me IRL - I have no idea whether I come across the same online as IRL. So please tell me - was I what you expected (some people thought I was male till they met me....)?

Bagpuss


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Amos
Date: 13 Apr 01 - 06:03 PM

One big difference is that my cyber-self is madly in love with some of the gentler members of the Mudcat; but in real life, of course, that doesn't happen.

Oh, and my cyber self is planning to start a religion based on bosom worship, while my real self would never do such a thing, and even finds the notion of a Temple of the Divine Mammary a bit off...at least, off the straight and narrow! :>)

A


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Bagpuss
Date: 13 Apr 01 - 06:03 PM

I construct better sentences in real life...

Bagpuss


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 13 Apr 01 - 06:31 PM

Every Mudcatter I've met seems to fit the golden slipper.
Now lets see......
I was blinded by the brilliant light of Peter T's intelligence and I would nik name him Bashful of the seven dwarfs for sure.
Jeri is a straight shooter in life too. Did you learn that in the Army Jeri? She also exuberates such warmth. She makes me feel safe and I would seek her out as a trust worthy friend.
Flattop has a dry sharp wit that is balanced with a warm attentive smile.
Mig Mick's name should be marketed in a line of Gund Teddy Bears. The man is so kind and generous, he could melt an iceberg with the love radiating off him.

There have been others I've met. That is just a starter. I must say that old saying has much truth to it.....'What you see is usually what you get'.

Little Neo


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: John Routledge
Date: 13 Apr 01 - 06:51 PM

Bagpuss - Your postings are very like you in real life - sentences apart. However many non-Bagpuss fans will not know who or indeed what Bagpuss is and therefore have a mental image of a grumpy old man.*BG*

Hope you can make the Jug Gathering as 3D you is much better than flatscreen you. Cheers GB


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Bagpuss
Date: 13 Apr 01 - 07:42 PM

Geordie - I make it my personal mission in life to make sure there are no non-bagpuss fans in the world!

(Are you saying I sound like a grumpy old man?????????????????????????? eh?????????????)

I might be able to make the sunday of the jug gathering. My cousin is getting married on the saturday, so I'll be in durham for the day - hope to pop in on my way back home.

Bagpuss


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Matt_R
Date: 13 Apr 01 - 07:46 PM

Face it, we're ALL Bagpuss fans!


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: John Routledge
Date: 13 Apr 01 - 08:10 PM

All the Catters that I have met have been slightly better in 3D than I imagined. This may be because I feel that I "know" them already and can dot i's and cross t's when face to face.

The knowledge about a person gained from Mudcat certainly speeds up forging a friendship/relationship in some cases quite dramatically.

Cheers GB


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Morticia
Date: 13 Apr 01 - 08:20 PM

Well I've been delighted by how much the people I've met through this madhouse are just like themselves ( did that make sense?) and a throughly sound bunch of reprobates and maniacs they are too.The other noticeable thing to me was how much better people play/sing/tap dance then they mention on here.The talent in a room full of mudcatters goes off the Richter scale, ( that includes Gervase who has one of the best voices I've ever heard).It is however regrettably true about Liz...played for England a couple of times I believe, but Micca only resembles Julie Andrews when he's dressed in his nun's outfit..... ( ooops, I wasn't supposed to tell, was I?)


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Big Mick
Date: 13 Apr 01 - 09:26 PM

My good friend, Little Neophyte should talk about the big heart. Banjo Bonnie has great talent, a wonderful will to succeed, excellent skills, a genuine love for people, great legs, and a smile to die for, ...................LOL.

When I posted my original post above I started to post my impressions of those I had met and realized that it might approach the size of War and Peace. Joe Offer is a wonderful man and has become a good friend. Peter T. is another wonderful fellow that I truly love to be around. Rick........whatta guy, and married far above his station to this walking Goddess. I love that Duckboots, and so does Ciara. Beebs, Ferrara, Bill D., Kath Westra who really has become one of my closest friends (and cute as hell, I might point out :-), Bro Barry, Allan C, Bill Sables, Sandy and Caroline (I want to be Sandy when I grow up, cuz that means I could sing like one of God's own Angels AND be married to Caroline Paton...., AND OF COURSE, my very good friends, Dan Milner and Bonnie Milner. Sheeeeeeiiiittttt, almost left out Dani who is a marvelously talented person.

Point is, that I have been surprised in almost every instance by how much more that I liked these people in person. With very few exceptions, they are everything I imagined they would be.

Max, Bert, MaryMac, Dick, Susan...........wow, fantastic people..................'cept when Dick is trying to cut off his fingers...........Told you it would be like War and Peace, and I haven't gotten to everyone yet......

Mick


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Big Mick
Date: 13 Apr 01 - 09:37 PM

SSSHHHHHEEEEEEIIIIIITTTTTT.........Almost forgot Karen K, who quite simply, is one of the nicest, sweetest, most caring people I have ever met in my entire life. Folks, when you meet her you will love her. Sweet smile as big as the whole of the outdoors..........and a heart that dwarfs her smile. Love that woman!!!!

Mick


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Bill D
Date: 13 Apr 01 - 09:55 PM

lessee...gotta do the European tour...then the OZ tour....no, wait..maybe the western US tour...no,,the Canada tour!...ummmm...how 'bout I just sit here and you all come see ME? Then I'll publish reviews!...(I have Max & Bert and Dick Greenhaus and Susan of DT and many others within a few hours of here...makes this the RIGHT palce to visit!


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Big Mick
Date: 13 Apr 01 - 09:57 PM

Spaw............meet him, you will love him............and he is funnier 3D than he is here.

Mick


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Art Thieme
Date: 13 Apr 01 - 10:51 PM

Well, I tend to post when I'm feeling best. So what you see here is not what you would always get. And when I am not feeling good I'm finally learning to keep quiet and just read a book. I'm sure Carol appreciates that. Might be why I'm here less---and less strident when I am here.

Art


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: flattop
Date: 13 Apr 01 - 11:13 PM

The golden slipper Bonnie? I've never felt more like Cindrella than tonight. You were much warmer in person than at my keyboard.

Sorcha, I always thought that you were a tolerant bitch.

Little Hawk is quiet and reserved on mudcat when he's not writing, Rick.


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: GUEST,#1
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 12:23 AM

Mudcaters different? From what? The first results from the Human Genome Project have been released. You have about 30,000 genes, and no one else differs from you by more than 30 genes. Boost that up to 3% difference and you could be a banana, yeast, or jelly fish.

Chimpanzies have been around a lot longer than humans and have much larger gene variations.

Women are born with a fixed number of ova. Males have to generate new sperm all the time, and thus have a bigger chance of mutation. Males have contributed about 2/3 of our evolution and females 1/3. Don't crow too much men, that goes for hereditary diseases as well as for the pluses.


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: GUEST,#1
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 12:29 AM

Forgot to add, Chinese, Caucasian, Negro, Aborinigie, Eskimo, etc, is determined by only 5 genes. Moral, pick your parents wisely before you allow them to conceive you.


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: GUEST,#1
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 12:32 AM

I guess I should have said, you ova out there, pick your lover sperm carefully. You don't want to be a jelly fish do you?


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Sorcha
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 12:36 AM

Oh shut up #1. We know you're a cynical,flaming, trolling asshole and we don't really need more evidence.

Art, you're an Icon now, so you are entitled to have bad days I am definitely NOT an Icon and have bad days anyway. See what Life does to you?

Mick, you're right......it's War and Peace on several levels, LOL! Do we want to meet #1? I don't think I need that in my life, I have a baby duck to take up my time, (grin) Duck poop is better than #1 poop.


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: flattop
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 12:36 AM

Life would be simpler if we were yeast, GUEST,#1, but sugar doesn't agree with me. As Guest the Banana you'd be a low priced commodity sandwiched into peanut butter. Jelly Fish, nah, I'm a drowner. Mutate well tonight.


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Amos
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 12:40 AM

The premise presented by dear old Number One is of course a flaming contradiction to the whole fundamental ofthis thread -- that individuals can have multiple facets, generated by their own powers of consciousness and creative will. Not by their bloody helices. 'Course it takes a bit more than purely material attention to be able to assess such a question realistically...


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: GUEST,#1
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 12:44 AM

I'm a success, I can still stir up ire! Just good genes, I guess. Sorcha, where did you learn such naughty language? I haven't found the gene for that yet. flattop isn't as naughty but doesn't seem to have much of an imagination gene.


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Sorcha
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 12:52 AM

It was easy. At my mother's knee. Just like tortillas and cannoli......and you ain't seen nuttin honey, if you think that's bad, lol. PM me if you're brave..oh, you are a Guest, aren't you? The same Guest that wants e mail addys with the post? Mine is sorchaout@hotmail, what's yours?????


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Melani
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 12:55 AM

If Spaw is more reserved in person, that's probably just as well...I really only post when I'm feeling good. Otherwise I'm too shy. I've gotten to know even people I already knew much better on Mudcat, not to mention the ones I haven't met yet. I look forward to the adventure.


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: flattop
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 01:10 AM

Well I'm not troubled by my lack of imagination but I thought I'd been naught at times. I bow to Sorcha's abilities. She's an impressive woman.

G's phrasing sounds too much like old MK but I'd hate to accuse an innocent rat bastard of that. We won't sail on those waters. No. Never.


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: GUEST,#1
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 01:24 AM

Sorcha, now every asshole that wants to flame or spam you can do so. Not quite. I don't know how to fake my return email address. Nor the one I'm at now, which isn't my home one.

PS: I have no desire whatever to communicate with you (or spam you or flame you).


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Sorcha
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 01:40 AM

If you have no desire to communicate with me, why are you doing so? What I gave you is a valid e mail address.......my secondary. Aren't you smart enough to do that? Sure you are....

I don't check the hotmail addy very often, so spam and flames don't bug me there. Spam/flame away, my friend. No sweat off my back. That's the glory of hotmail etc, as opposed to a home ISP addy, which actually is available if you want to look for it, and know how.....

flattop, thanks for the compliment, but it is mostly due to Google or Copernic.......I really don't have all that stuff in my brain. I do have, however, a researcher brain, meaning the ability to re-phrase a question and the curiosity to keep looking.......


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: katlaughing
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 03:15 AM

flattop, I can safely say it ain't MK

It is someone who should know better and has too much time on his hands, though.


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Bagpuss
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 08:47 AM

Guest - firstly, are you sure about that figure of only 30 genes which differ amongst humans? I ask because I know of several single gene disorders, and scientists are always talking about different genes which affect our likelihood of having different diseases (such as breast cancer, schizophrenia, etc). And I'm sure I have heard of more than 30 different instances.

Anyway, even if it were true - 30 different genes add up to a hell of a lot of variation. Say on average there were only 2 alleles for each gene - that makes 2 to the power of 30 (which I make over 1000 million combinations). Also, genotype does not equal phenotype. Genes and environment interact to produce all our characteristics. So in short, every human is unique.

So next time you want to hijack the conversation, make sure you choose a subject you actually know something about.....

Bagpuss


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Jeri
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 10:13 AM

And I thought I'd have to have a different number of chromosomes to be a jellyfish...oh well.

In any case, I don't think genes have all that much to do with personality, which is what we're discussing. They undoubtedly have something to do with it, but have no effect on how we learn to treat other people, whether it's someone who's a friend, or someone we don't know and never will meet. This is probably learned behavior as opposed to personality, but it's the most evident thing when we first meet other people.

Me, I'm always apt to try to avoid "groupthink." I'm equally as apt to try to avoid rebelling just for the sake of rebelling. The former probably comes from my mom, who would come into the room when I was watching a big-scary-monster movie, and root for the monster. ("Oh, poor King Kong! He just wants to go home, and they're scaring him, and...") It's why I avoid the "get the guest" games. I don't want to be part of the angry mob of townspeople going after the monster with torches and farm implements.

As for the latter - the rebelling - I just hate feeling like I knee-jerk in any direction. We've all seen people who disagree with the predominant way of thinking simply because it IS the predominant way of thinking, and they seem to take great care in being seen to hold a different view. They're just as controlled by group mentality as the ones who conform.

I'm just as much a social animal as anyone else, but I try to figure out not if I agree or disagree, but what I think. This isn't something I was born with, and it's technically not an aspect of personality. It has nothing to do with genes, other than genes making it possible for me to learn. I do think that we learn to react certain ways from our parents, so it's something we inherit, although not biologically. Those who've learned to treat others like crap will continue to do so unless they learn another way. It's possible, but I don't think it happens very often.


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: GUEST,#1
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 10:35 AM

It's being re-aired on TV now, but's a little over half-way through. (just finished the part about the half on one's genes that aren't really yours, they just hitchhike through the DNA chain, and are good at reproducing themselves and not good for anything else)


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Big Mick
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 12:39 PM

Jeri........

Ohmagawd.......

I forgot Jeri, she will kill me.......shit!!!

Jeri is different than I imagined her, when I first met her. But with the passage of time, her posts have come to sound exactly like her. When first I started reading her posts I imagined her to be a bit gregarious, very outgoing and witty in an intellectual fashion. When I met her she was soooooooooooo quiet and in the background. But I could hear her voice and hear her instrument. And I found her to be a fascinating person. As you come to know her, you realize that her quietness is really because she is thoughtful, she is outgoing but in a very genuine way. No phoniness whatsoever. The witty in an intellectual way stands. And she is a calm voice in a sea of reactionaries. I appreciate this. More than once she has hauled me back by my ears and pointed out that I was reacting before I understood what was happening. Hard to beat a friend like that.

Mick


Font size back to normal. --Some gregarious, outgoing and witty (not to mention modest) JoeClone


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: GUEST,avoiding target status
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 12:39 PM

"G's phrasing sounds too much like old MK but I'd hate to accuse an innocent rat bastard of that".

That's rich coming from you flat top. If you mean former participant in last years flame wars Michael K, at least he had the class to apologize, unlike the instigator, and the rest of the little group. He's been a good Mudcat citizen for the last year, especially behind the scenes as a lot of us can attest. AND he knows music, and shares it.


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Big Mick
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 12:41 PM

damn, forgot to turn off the bold.


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 12:51 PM

Why Big Mick, I thought the bold emphasis suited your posting about Jeri. I figure Jeri's qualities should be placed in big bold print on a billboard style tribute.

Little Neo


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Sorcha
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 12:58 PM

Ok, I apologize too. Got a little out of line, there. Sorry, all. I'm going to go tend the duck now.


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Jeri
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 01:09 PM

You forgot "beautiful," Mick, and talented, and... oh well. The bold is OK with me. ;-) (I'll fix it anyway.) Mick is every bit as "larger than life" than he sounds. I mean his heart, although the rest of him's pretty big too. The kind of guy who was nicknamed "Tiny" when he was a kid.

I feel safe in saying #1 isn't MK or Gargoyle. MK has been being an informative friend to folks here, and #1 hasn't even come close to GG's nastiness. Just a guy who spent too much time bitching about BS to feel comfortable being seen enjoying it. I don't believe he's been truly nasty with anyone.


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: GUEST,#1
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 01:12 PM

All is forgiven, Sorcha. Hope you don't get spams or flames.

I'm still trying to figure out how to make return email addresses available to Mudcat members for every post, but not to non-members. You have any ideas along that line? I might be amenable to joining that way, but for me, now, there are more disadvantages than advantages to joining.


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Big Mick
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 01:17 PM

Yes I did forget beautiful, and the talent was implied. Ask Fielding who told him you were very talented. And I think we must revive the trio from the first Getaway.

I agree with your assessment on #1 not being GG or MK. And I agree on your assessment of MK's actions recently. He is talented and seems bent on being helpful and an asset to our town. I am happy to see it. I don't really care who #1 is. I usually scan the post to see if it is worthwhile. Usually isn't, so I have come to just ignore the posts more and more.

Mick


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: GUEST,#1
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 01:20 PM

That's mutual Big Mick.


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: catspaw49
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 01:22 PM

Hey #1............What the hell is the point here? I'm basically stupid and just don't get it. What would be the point in an e-mail addy anyway? What's that going to do or NOT going to do? Really.........How about an explanation here huh?

Spaw


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Amergin
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 01:25 PM

Guset#0, I know you are having a tough time lately, with your dear Mary Ewe, cheating on you with your best friend, but that is no reason to take it out on the rest of us. It is time to move on.


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Big Mick
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 01:26 PM

GUEST #1, my email address is mlane@accn.org. Drop me a line and tell me about yourself, and what the point of what you are doing is. I am sincere in the request. Maybe if I understood the point of what you are doing, it would help. That way we won't eat up Mudcat resources.

Mick


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Jeri
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 01:39 PM

Even if return e-mail addresses could be added to posts and IF Max wanted to do it, I could fake my e-mail the same way as I can do in a newsgroup post or e-mail list. I could get a throw-away account with Yahoo or someone. Not only that, but you mention spammers harvesting addresses. What's to prevent them joining and getting everyone's e-mail? I'm fairly sure that if e-mail addresses started appearing here, more people would opt for "GUEST" status rather than the one who would join.


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Max
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 01:44 PM

I can say with great certainty that #1 is not MK.

Many of us know who #1 is thanks to some handy detective work from our longtime members. And knowing where all these flame games go, I would guess that it eventually gets out. This Web site is protected by Karma Guard.


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: mousethief
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 01:47 PM

Karma Guard -- is that a patented product? Where can one go to buy that?

Alex


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: catspaw49
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 01:49 PM

Yeah Max, I agree and we all know that it ain't MK or garg..............but how about someone explaining ANY benefit to having an e-mail post? #1 seems sety on that and as Jeri said, its an easy one to get around........so what's the point? And what else is it that #1 wants? I keep waiting but I don't seem to get an answer.................

Spaw


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: GUEST,#1
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 01:59 PM

I want to see frivolous and irresponsible postings eliminated from the Mudcat Forum. The only way this ever seems to work well is to make (real) return email addresses of the poster made available. Every other newsgroup, single clicks in your News on your browser, to subscription newsgroups. I discovered that someone (unknown to me) even subscribed me to a subscription newsgroup, something I didn't know one could do.

The return email address puts the poster in position for anyone to copy the email address to use for flaming or spaming. How can one avoid that? I gave one suggestion above, but I don't know enough about software for servers to be sure that it is workable.

I long ago figured out about irresponsible posting, that if you can't beat them, join them, and make it so bad that Max will have to face the problem and do something about it. You can be very sure that Max (and a lot of others know who I am). You don't see everything regarding the posts in the dinky headings available on this Forum.


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: flattop
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 02:04 PM

I apologize. I'm sorry for thinking those thoughts when I read the phrase.

Recently I've been too busy to read enough threads to have a feel for what's going on. Good to hear that MK is being positive and that GUEST,#1 is not offending everyone.


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: mousethief
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 02:05 PM

I want to see frivolous and irresponsible postings eliminated from the Mudcat Forum

This is too rich, coming from #1.

Alex


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: catspaw49
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 02:10 PM

A- This is not a News Group. It's not the usual MB either.

B- My e-mail addy is all over the place here as well as a lot of other people's............If it were included in my posts, so what?

C- Feel free to put your (real) addy in.

I think you're completely off your nut. E-mail addys aren't going to stop a thing. What other "causes" are you pushing? What are "irresponsible postings" anyway?

Spaw


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: GUEST,#1
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 02:18 PM

mousethief, Alex, you obviously didn't read my note very carefully.


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: mousethief
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 02:22 PM

I'd say any post by a guest other than a first-time visitor asking for information (e.g. song lyrics) is under a prima facie suspicion of being irresponsible. If people want to take regular part in the give-and-take discussions here, they should join. Not doing so indicates an unwillingness to be held responsible for one's words, which in turn suggests a desire to post irresponsibly.

Alex


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: mousethief
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 02:30 PM

Guest, you mean I long ago figured out about irresponsible posting, that if you can't beat them, join them, and make it so bad that Max will have to face the problem and do something about it. ?

Yeah, just what Max needs, people like you making his job harder. It's sort of like people complaining about public radio who don't pledge during the fund drive: you're getting something for free, and yet you bellyache about it. Worse, you don't just bellyache, you actually make the problem worse.

If there's logic in there, I'm a Vulcan.

Alex


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: GUEST,#1
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 02:46 PM

Hi, Vulcan


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: mousethief
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 02:50 PM

Not good at figures of speech, are we?


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: GUEST,#1
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 02:55 PM

I think you're just mad because with Cupid on guard, your wife and Mars are at it again. Has she ever slept in your bed?


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: catspaw49
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 02:56 PM

You can be very sure that Max (and a lot of others know who I am). ........"Guest#1"

Then why not use your normal name to post since you post as a Guest anyway? What's to lose?

Spaw


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Lepus Rex
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 04:31 PM

Oh, who cares? Why let this cocksmoker hijack an interesting thread? Whoever GUEST,#1 is, s/he's pathetic. We should just laugh at this kind of insecure attention masturbator. If we don't look at his/her actions as "flames," but instead as "retarded antics," s/he will at least have some sort of value to society (entertainment). Let's be kind to #1, eh? Haw-haw.

---Lepus Rex


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: catspaw49
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 04:40 PM

What are you saying Lepus? You mean like the #1 has halitosis or real nasty body odor or something? OK....we can play ol #1 like that I think. Now....What shall we call #1? I mean he stinks more like #2. Certainly cannot call him that so how about "Doggy Breath?" Or how about "Pit Stink" or something along those lines? How about "Body Odor" and then we can cut it back to save the typing and call him "BO" for short? Got any ideas there Lepus?

Spaw


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: GUEST,#1
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 05:14 PM

catspaw49 doesn't want any changes because it would seriously handicap his/her flaming, as can be seen in the above and many other posts. However, I tried to find out how long that had been going on, and a Forum search on 'catspaw49' grinds away for a while then gives the message 'Document contains no data', but I already knew that of his/her messages.


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: catspaw49
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 05:28 PM

My oh my..........Getting very touchy aren't we? One thing for certain though, my posts are all under my name.......catspaw49. And it takes very little effort to find ALL the details of my life here on this forum. I think even my blood type is posted here. Putting in my e-mail stops nothing as I have not done anything to be ashamed of.....like posting under a pseudonym/anon Guest thing.........except for Cletus, Paw, and Cleigh O'Possum. Of course you know that, since you've been around so long and all.

Too pathetic to look the stuff up? No problem.......

Pat Patterson, catspaw@buckeyeinternet.com, Bremen, Ohio----Married, two kids (Tris and Mike), 51 years old, born Tuscarawas County, Ohio.............All that stuff has been posted continuously here and there on the forum............

NOW......YOUR TURN!!!!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: katlaughing
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 05:35 PM

Key-riced, can't you even tell gender from a photo, BO?


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: GUEST,#1
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 05:45 PM

kat/katlauging, I once thought you were in the same league as catspaw49, but you've really redeemed yourself lately. As for photos, I don't care about clubs and cliques. I saw an announcement of a new Tradchat line on the web the other day on rec.music.folk, but it turned out to be just another general chatline with little to do with folk songs or music.


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: GUEST,Idle Musings
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 05:53 PM

Well I guess this thread has degenerated to the point where my original question hardly matters. Silly me, I'd hoped it would stay friendly and funny. Still, with so many people here, I guess it's too much to ask of some that they keep their personal agendas to themselves or at least in another thread. To the rest. Thank you. Interesting stuff.


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Bagpuss
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 06:11 PM

If the owner of this site wants it to be a site purely for the discussion of folk and blues music, then that is his right. And if he were to say so, then I would comply - and he could chuck out any members and delete any posts which were off topic.

None of this has happened, so I assume that he is happy for it to continue to be a big mish mash of what it is.

If you want just music threads, then there is the ever so difficult option of just reading those threads - its not hard to work out which they are.

You have a right to an opinion on how you think this site should be, but equally we have the right to think you are an arse for the way you go about expressing that wish.

If this site doesn't meet your high expectations, then go and set up your own site and play with yourself there.

Bagpuss


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: bill\sables
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 06:12 PM

After having met about 160 mudcatters in the USA, Canada and the UK I was going to post my views but as this thread has degenerated so much I don't think it is worth my time and effort.
Bill


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Amergin
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 06:15 PM

Just go ahead and do so, Bill, bring this thread back.


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Bagpuss
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 06:20 PM

Yeh, I want to know what you think of all of us!

Bagpuss


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: catspaw49
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 06:25 PM

Yeah, I'm sorry about that Bill......This one's a bit long anyway......Why not start a part 2 and post your stuff. I'll stay off the shinola about BO and I assume he may do the same.

Before I leave the subject, congrats kat on redeeming yourself.....LOL.................

Spaw


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: GUEST,#1
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 07:01 PM

Bagpuss, Max hasn't got time to monitor all the posts. I don't wish that terrible job on anyone.

As for setting up my own site, that may just be possible.


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: catspaw49
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 07:08 PM

Great idea.....Now, I'm still waiting to hear fron YOU all that crap you want from everybody else....name, e-mail....all that crap I posted.........I thought you wanted to put that on everyone's postings....Where is yours?

And stay off the other thread totally ..... Even that crack about dick or Sandy meeting more.....just stay off the thread and let it go....You want to keep this up, keep it up here........Now where is your info???

Spaw


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Peg
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 08:00 PM

Please Bill tell us what you think of people you have met!!! I am with Amergin, rescue this poor thread.

Okay, I will do a bit.

Kendall is very sweet and much less scary in real life than you would think...oh, and he's a wonderful performer.

Naemanson is a big lovable teddy bear type with a nice voice who knows some great songs.

Jeri (if she is the one I remember) sings with some real intensity...

Animaterra is a sweetie and sings like an angel and has a real "Libra" peacemaker feel about her, and pretty long, long hair!

Barry, well Barry must be heard to be believed: a rich, lusty tenor made for sea shanties. Let us all hope he recovers well!

Judy Predmore works tirelessly for the folk music community and is a Martun Wyndham Reade fanatic! She also has a lovely way with a song and really makes it her own.

The Woodchucks know some incredible songs, both funny and deep, and are real live Vermonters in every way imaginable...hair to shoes...

I met lots more Mudcatters at the NH gathering but can't recall their names now, sorry!

Also met Micca while in the UK, and he is a handful! A lovable, talkative, effervescent madman. Quite the photographer. Don't get him started on the UK pagan community...and also got to meet Liz and her SO and daughter, lovely people!

Peg


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: katlaughing
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 11:45 PM

Thanks, Spaw....always said you were the evil twin of us.**BG** Uh-oh, does this mean I've been *gasp* saved?!!


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Chanteyranger
Date: 15 Apr 01 - 03:42 AM

I met WyoWoman at Dave and Pam Swan's a year ago and again in her home state of Colorado last November. She is as funny, warm, intelligent and spirited as her posts. Riggy, radriano, BSeed, Melani, BillR, Rev, Dave and Pam Swan, Winters Wages, Elise - all catters who I think many of you would enjoy in a musical setting AND sitting around the kitchen table gabbing. Great folks, and they probably don't post enough to let aspects of their personalities shine through online (with the exception of Dave and Pam - who are very much like their wonderful posts).

I met Barry Finn and Peg at the Boston traditional singers club, and talked with Barry at Mystic. Barry comes through in 3D as in his posts. A great guy. Didn't get to talk with Peg much as I had to leave the club early, but she can SING and was friendly and as welcoming as her PM responses to my thread inquiring about Boston sessions.

-chanteyranger


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: tiggerdooley
Date: 15 Apr 01 - 04:49 AM

I sometimes worry that I come across as a bit of a nutcase, then I remember that I am far more of a crazy, dippy cow than dots on a screen could EVER convey.

So my secret's safe....


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