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Unofficial Song Challenge! Enslaved Kids

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Subject: Unofficial Song Challenge! ENSLAVED KIDS
From: wysiwyg
Date: 15 Apr 01 - 02:26 PM

Fears grow for children on slave ship

April 15, 2001

(Source: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/r/fcweb/World/Human_Rights/Related%20News%20Stories/Fears%20grow%)
(Web posted at: 11:37 a.m. EDT)

COTONOU, Benin-- Concern is growing for as many as 250 children, destined for slave labour, onboard a ship off Africa's west coast.

Officials have launched a search for the vessel, which has been seeking to dock for more than a week.

Benin police said the Nigerian-registered MV Etireno left Cotonou a week ago but was refused entry to Gabon and Cameroon because it was suspected of child trafficking and was on its way back to Benin.

No-one has had any contact with the cargo ship since it left Douala three days ago. The vessel is said to be in poor condition, with no seats and no modern communications system.

In Douala, the Beninois ambassador bought some fuel and food for the passengers but he reported that some were sick.

Benin police estimate the boat carried 250 children from Benin and neighbouring Togo, although Douala police said the ship carried 28 children and 148 adults.

A senior official with Benin's state shipping firm, COBENAM, which was contracted to provide docking and other services for the Etireno, said the aging vessel had made regular trips from Benin to Gabon loaded with impoverished passengers over the past five years

Officials from the United Nation children's agency UNICEF and Benin's minister of social, family and women's affairs have been awaiting the ship's arrival at the port.

Guluma said child traffickers offer poor families money to take their children to other countries.

The families accept, believing their children will send money home, but the children are often resold as plantation workers or domestic servants and are never able to send wages to their families.

"Trafficking children ... is very similar to slavery," Guluma told CNN, "because the children are normally not paid and they work very, very hard labour in the plantations and in other areas where they work. The conditions are not the same as slavery, but they work as slave labour, in essence."

More than 200,000 children in West Africa are involved in this kind of labour, Guluma told CNN.

Benin is one of the world's poorest countries, while Gabon, a thinly populated, oil-producing nation to the southeast, is relatively wealthy by African standards.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

MORE INFO AND A SMALL DISCUSSION AT:
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/r/fcweb/World/Human_Rights/Related%20News%20Stories/Fears%20grow%

RELATED MUDCAT THREAD AT:
thread.cfm?threadid=33214

~Susan


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Subject: RE: Unofficial Song Challenge! ENSLAVED KIDS
From: wysiwyg
Date: 15 Apr 01 - 02:28 PM

Songs in this thread, discussion in the other one, please.

~S~


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Subject: RE: Unofficial Song Challenge! ENSLAVED KIDS
From: Amergin
Date: 15 Apr 01 - 02:42 PM

I'll have to think on this one, Susan...


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Subject: RE: Unofficial Song Challenge! ENSLAVED KIDS
From: wysiwyg
Date: 15 Apr 01 - 03:42 PM

I can do the tune if you can find the words, Nathan.

~S~


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Subject: RE: Unofficial Song Challenge! ENSLAVED KIDS
From: Amergin
Date: 15 Apr 01 - 03:53 PM

That would be great. Unfortunately, I'm at work at the moment so it will have to wait til tonight....AAAARRRGGGGHHHH.


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Subject: RE: Unofficial Song Challenge! ENSLAVED KIDS
From: wysiwyg
Date: 15 Apr 01 - 03:55 PM

Take the title too if you want it.

Sold into Slavery, At Sea.

~S~


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Subject: RE: Unofficial Song Challenge! ENSLAVED KIDS
From: GUEST,mgarvey@pacifier.com
Date: 15 Apr 01 - 08:33 PM

blazing sun makes us wish to die blazing sun makes us wish to die blazing sun makes us wish to die we are children who are captive on the deep blue sea

port of call won't you let us in port of call won't you let us in port of call won't you let us in we are children who are captive on the deep blue sea

we'll die of thirst it will not be long we'l die of thirst it will not be long we'll die of thirst it will not be long we are children who are captive on the deep blue sea

they'll throw us over we cannot swim they'll thorw us over we cannot swim they'll throw us over we cannot swim we are children who are captive on the deep blue sea

bought and sold for our family's bread bought and sold for our family's bread bought and sold for our family's bread we are children who are captive on the deep blue sea

Mother father kiss your sons goodbye Mother father kiss your sons goodbye Mother father kiss your sons goodbye we are children who are captive on the deep blue sea

God almighty hear your children cry God almighty hear your children cry God almighty hear your children cry We are children who are captive on the deep blue sea

watch for us on the morning tide watch for us on the morning tide watch for us on the morning tide we are children who are captive on the deep blue sea


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Subject: RE: Unofficial Song Challenge! ENSLAVED KIDS
From: wysiwyg
Date: 15 Apr 01 - 10:01 PM

Mary, yes. I took the liberty of adding line breaks.

Do you have a tune? (I do if you don't.) Since hearing the story I keep thinking of the thoughts they must be having on the ship, the restless exhausted panic and the waves rocking. This does it.

~S~


blazing sun makes us wish to die
blazing sun makes us wish to die
blazing sun makes us wish to die
we are children
who are captive
on the deep blue sea

port of call won't you let us in
port of call won't you let us in
port of call won't you let us in
we are children
who are captive
on the deep blue sea

we'll die of thirst it will not be long
we'll die of thirst it will not be long
we'll die of thirst it will not be long
we are children
who are captive
on the deep blue sea

they'll throw us over we cannot swim
they'll throw us over we cannot swim
they'll throw us over we cannot swim
we are children
who are captive
on the deep blue sea

bought and sold for our family's bread
bought and sold for our family's bread
bought and sold for our family's bread
we are children
who are captive
on the deep blue sea

mother father kiss your sons goodbye
mother father kiss your sons goodbye
mother father kiss your sons goodbye
we are children
who are captive
on the deep blue sea

God almighty hear your children cry
God almighty hear your children cry
God almighty hear your children cry
we are children
who are captive
on the deep blue sea

watch for us on the morning tide
watch for us on the morning tide
watch for us on the morning tide
we are children
who are captive
on the deep blue sea


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Subject: RE: Unofficial Song Challenge! ENSLAVED KIDS
From: GUEST,mgarvey@pacifier.com
Date: 15 Apr 01 - 10:24 PM

hope this isn't a duplicate..I just typed a reply and don't see it. Anyway, ;thanks for putting in line breaks and the tune is deep blue sea, as in lower him down with a golden chain etc.


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Subject: RE: Unofficial Song Challenge! ENSLAVED KIDS
From: katlaughing
Date: 15 Apr 01 - 11:24 PM

Mary, that is outstanding....everyone should hear that song NOW!

Thank you for writing it.

kat


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Subject: RE: Unofficial Song Challenge! ENSLAVED KIDS
From: wysiwyg
Date: 16 Apr 01 - 12:10 AM

It's worth being sung far and wide. I hope anyone who does will come tell us about it.

Áine is going to have to come up with some new prize categories, I suspect.

Now who's next?

~S~


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Subject: RE: Unofficial Song Challenge! ENSLAVED KIDS
From: Amergin
Date: 16 Apr 01 - 02:55 AM

Great stuff, Mary! so when do I get to hear you sing it?

I do wish you had waited on posting it though....don't know if I can follow that...


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Subject: RE: Unofficial Song Challenge! ENSLAVED KIDS
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 16 Apr 01 - 07:31 AM

If I sang the song at The White Horse tonight, I know that the folks there would receive it warmly. That would earn me a great round of applause gained by the misery of those children. What would that make me? I could put out a hat and again I know those good people would give generously, but where should the money go? Help please.
Keith.


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Subject: RE: Unofficial Song Challenge! ENSLAVED KIDS
From: wysiwyg
Date: 16 Apr 01 - 09:51 AM

Keith, every song I have ever heard (especially any I have sung) have become part of who I am, how I see the world, and what action I take. Please don't discount the power you can excercise with a song like this, and the impact that can flow into others' lives when they have "caught" a song in their hearts.

As far as an organization to support... UNICEF, I suppose, or a donation to the local Red Cross designated (entailed) specifically for internatioonal relief? Best would be, I think, an organization supporting economic development (without colonization) of the place these kids come from. There are small-economy efforts that have worked elsewhere, with full regard for the area culture. Maybe there is one for this. Ask around when you sing this-- maybe someone who will hear it already knows.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: Unofficial Song Challenge! ENSLAVED KIDS
From: mousethief
Date: 16 Apr 01 - 11:10 AM

Once again I am uncomfortable with song challenges on a tragic subject. I can't easily make fun of human misery.

Alex


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Subject: RE: Unofficial Song Challenge! ENSLAVED KIDS
From: wysiwyg
Date: 16 Apr 01 - 11:38 AM

Alex, no one suggested these be funny songs!

The Challenge is to put our talent to work on this terrible thing, for if we do not sing, we are failing offer our strongest tool where there is a need for great strength.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: Unofficial Song Challenge! ENSLAVED KIDS
From: Dahlin
Date: 16 Apr 01 - 11:49 AM

Mary

I have taken the words and tune and hope to perform it often and loudly.


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Subject: RE: Unofficial Song Challenge! ENSLAVED KIDS
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 16 Apr 01 - 12:35 PM

Take these children from the sea,
bring them home, and set them free
if it was down to you and me,
I swear we'd set those children free.

It's on the news, and I know, like me,
that you can hardly bear to see
those children held in slavery
those captives lost out on the sea.
Take these children from the sea,
bring them home, and set them free
if it was down to you and me,
I swear we'd set those children free.

And they work as slaves in a distant land,
where the cocoa's grown on the business plan,
and the chocolate's sweet, and the stocks are grand,
and the chocolate bar is in my hand
Take these children from the sea,
bring them home, and set them free
if it was down to you and me,
I swear we'd set those children free.

Yes they work as slaves in that distant place,
but every child has a different face,
and when I think of all that pain and waste,
that chocolate bar has lost its taste.
Take these children from the sea,
bring them home, and set them free
if it was down to you and me,
I swear we'd set those children free.

I know that it's possible to come out with a song on a topic in the news on a way that's exploitive and cheap, as Keith pointed out. But it doesn't have to be like that - a song can sometimes get people thinking about things and talking about them with people they wouldn't normally talk about them with. As for where to send any money, here's one place.


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Subject: RE: Unofficial Song Challenge! ENSLAVED KIDS
From: wysiwyg
Date: 16 Apr 01 - 02:54 PM

Bless you, Kevin.

~S~


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Subject: RE: Unofficial Song Challenge! ENSLAVED KIDS
From: katlaughing
Date: 16 Apr 01 - 03:09 PM

Kevin, that is equally as beautiful and poignant. Thank you and thanks for the link to that very important site!

luvyakat


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Subject: RE: Unofficial Song Challenge! ENSLAVED KIDS
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 17 Apr 01 - 05:06 AM

Update from the BBC


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Subject: RE: Unofficial Song Challenge! ENSLAVED KIDS
From: Alice
Date: 17 Apr 01 - 09:04 AM

Thanks for the link to that article. So, our chocolate could be made from cocoa produced by child labor in Africa.


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Subject: RE: Unofficial Song Challenge! ENSLAVED KIDS
From: GUEST,Wesley S
Date: 17 Apr 01 - 09:28 AM

CHILDREN ON THE SEA

I'm just a common sailor, I work hard every day
We move all kinds of cargo, that's how we earn our pay
Some people try to stop our ship, they just don't understand
We've got to get this shipment through,so lend a helping hand

Chorus -

Sailing children, children on the sea
No need to worry of their fate, they're not like you or me
Sailing children, children on the sea
We're hauling freight, children on the sea

It's a story old as Neptune, it didn't start with me
Some people sell their children, they need money don't you see
I'm just the guy that helps them out,it's the custom of their land
Why shouldn't I make a profit and then go and wash my hands?

Repeat Chorus

We hear they'll try to stop our ship it really is a shame
Some forigners will interfere and try to fix the blame
But I won't do any jailtime no matter what the cost
I hate to lose my profits but this cargo must be lost

So we'll throw children, children to the sea
Please don't worry of their fate they're not like you or me
Throw these children, these children to the sea
It's such a waste I'm sure you would agree.


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Subject: RE: Unofficial Song Challenge! ENSLAVED KIDS
From: wysiwyg
Date: 17 Apr 01 - 09:31 AM

Oh Wes, that is as sharp as a knife. Excellent. Is there a tune?

~S~


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Subject: RE: Unofficial Song Challenge! ENSLAVED KIDS
From: Amergin
Date: 17 Apr 01 - 03:03 PM

wonderful additions posted here! Keep it up folks!


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Subject: RE: Unofficial Song Challenge! ENSLAVED KIDS
From: wysiwyg
Date: 17 Apr 01 - 03:42 PM

Nathan, I love the words you sent me. I should have the tune and chords tomorrow or Thursday, and we can post it all then!

~S~


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Subject: RE: Unofficial Song Challenge! ENSLAVED KIDS
From: Amergin
Date: 17 Apr 01 - 03:46 PM

Great!


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Subject: RE: Unofficial Song Challenge! ENSLAVED KIDS
From: Charley Noble
Date: 18 Apr 01 - 11:23 AM

Maybe we should save these songs for the next incident, with better documentation that "slavery" is involved.

No Child Slaves Are Found as Ship Reaches Benin

By REUTERS

COTONOU, Benin, Tuesday, April 17 S A ship at the center of an international hunt for scores of suspected child slaves arrived here early today, but with no more than a few children, accompanied by their mothers, on board.

Benin sparked the search for the Nigerian-registered ship Etireno last week when it alerted the world that it believed that the vessel was carrying 180 children, sold by poor families to work for nothing in oil-rich Gabon.

Benin's social protection minister, Ramatou Baba Moussa, suggested that there might have been a mix-up between the Etireno and another Nigerian ship spotted off Equatorial Guinea, which might be carrying Nigerian minors caught up in the illegal trade. She gave no details of the possible second ship.

She told reporters on board the Etireno that there were 139 passengers on the ship, of whom 7 were children. She added that she was relieved not to discover child slaves.

"There was a situation, and we had to take action," she said. "The affair is over. I don't deny that Benin is part of the traffic in children, and the government will do all it can to beat it."

No move was made to arrest or question any of the ship's crew. There was no sign of the Benin businessman Stanislas Abadtan or at least two other people against whom international arrest warrants were issued in connection with the trade.

Most passengers did not look to be in poor health and there was little for Red Cross workers to do.

The United Nations Children's Fund had set up a receiving center in Cotonou, expecting to care for a much larger number of children after a 1,250-mile journey. The ship left Cotonou on March 30 for Libreville, in Gabon, but was turned back by the authorities there.

Many passengers recounted how the ship was turned away, not because it had child slaves aboard but because it was carrying illegal immigrants seeking relative riches in an impoverished region.

"When we got to Libreville, some people tried to go ashore in small boats, but when they reached the beach they were attacked by robbers," said Mamadou Fall, a Senegalese businessman among the passengers. "When the robbers found they had no money, they called the police.

"Because they had no papers, the police put them all back on board the boat and said it had to leave," Mr. Fall said.

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Subject: RE: Unofficial Song Challenge! ENSLAVED KIDS
From: wysiwyg
Date: 18 Apr 01 - 11:48 AM

Maybe we should save these songs for the next incident...

Obviously it is a relief to know there may have been some confusion over this story. But it sounds to me like there is no need to wait for a "next incident"... It sounds like it is an ongoing incident of greater proportions than many of us knew.

It puts me in mind of "The Water is Wide"... thinking of all that can be happening on our seas that we here in our civilized, snug spots never have to think about.

I hope the songs keep coming in. This story should not go away; it should broaden to be increasingly detailed.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: Unofficial Song Challenge! ENSLAVED KIDS
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 18 Apr 01 - 05:20 PM

As Susan said - there's no question about there being a system of child (and other) slavery on some of the cocoa plantations, and children being ferried around between various places in West Africa.

The question of whether they are going to be abe to pin anything on the people running this particular ship on this particular occasion is a very secondary matter.

The crucial quote is that one from the Benin minister: "I don't deny that Benin is part of the traffic in children".

I was pleased to see that Cadbury, the chocolate people, have called for effective action against slavery in the cocoa and chocolate plantations etc. Cynically one might say they are a bit worried about possible boycotts, and they want to make it clear that in this respect their company has clean hands. But it's a good practical development, which could achieve something.


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Subject: RE: Unofficial Song Challenge! ENSLAVED KIDS
From: wysiwyg
Date: 18 Apr 01 - 05:42 PM

Thanks, Kevin.

I would suggest though that we continue discussion in the other thread OVER HERE, where the bulk of the discussion had been occurring.

~S~


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