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Help: John Gorman, Jack the Piper, Drumshanbo

Big Tim 15 Apr 01 - 04:15 PM
Sorcha 15 Apr 01 - 04:21 PM
Sorcha 15 Apr 01 - 04:22 PM
GUEST,Bruce O. 15 Apr 01 - 07:15 PM
GUEST,Bruce O. 15 Apr 01 - 07:44 PM
Jeri 15 Apr 01 - 08:22 PM
GUEST,Bruce O. 15 Apr 01 - 08:35 PM
Big Tim 16 Apr 01 - 04:23 AM
GUEST,Mel 26 Mar 17 - 03:19 PM
leeneia 27 Mar 17 - 10:41 AM
GUEST,Peter Laban 27 Mar 17 - 10:50 AM
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Subject: John Gorman, Jack the Piper, Drumshanbo,
From: Big Tim
Date: 15 Apr 01 - 04:15 PM

Recently I visited a famine graveyard at Drumshanbo, Co Leitrim Ireland. The graveyard also contains this inscription, "Within this graveyard lie the remains of John Gorman, 'Jack the Piper', born Derrylahan, Co Roscommon 1863, died Drumshanbo 1917". Does anyone know anything about this man?


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Subject: RE: Help: John Gorman, Jack the Piper, Drumshanbo
From: Sorcha
Date: 15 Apr 01 - 04:21 PM

Very short squib on this page. Scroll down a bit.


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Subject: RE: Help: John Gorman, Jack the Piper, Drumshanbo
From: Sorcha
Date: 15 Apr 01 - 04:22 PM

uh. forgot to close, checking to see if it's OK...and closing just in case....


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Subject: Tune Add: JACK THE PIPER
From: GUEST,Bruce O.
Date: 15 Apr 01 - 07:15 PM

Tunes are often named after performers, but here we seem to have a performer named after a tune.

X:1
T:Jack the Piper
S:Riley's Flute Melodies, II, #352 (1820)
L:1/4
M:C
J:2#E
K:Edorian
(d/e/)(f/e/) (d/e/)(f/e/)|dBB3/2A/|(d/e/)(f/e/) (d/e/)(f/e/)|\
geez|(d/e/)(f/e/) (d/e/)(f/e/)|dBg3/2B/|B(A/G/)Af|gee2|\
(d/e/)(f/e/) (d/e/)(f/e/)|dBB2|(d/e/)(f/e/)(d/e/)(f/e/)|\
gee2|(d/e/)(f/e/) (d/e/)(f/e/)|dBg3/2B/|B(A/G/)Af|gee3/2g/|\
a3/2g/fe|dBB2|a3/2g/fe/d/|gee2|a3/2g/fe|dBg2|BA/G/Af|gee2|]


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Subject: RE: Help: John Gorman, Jack the Piper, Drumshanbo
From: GUEST,Bruce O.
Date: 15 Apr 01 - 07:44 PM

Anybody recognize the tune yet? Hint, it's from 1706 and was recently revived for the theme song of 'Sharpe's Rifles' on PBS.


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Subject: RE: Help: John Gorman, Jack the Piper, Drumshanbo
From: Jeri
Date: 15 Apr 01 - 08:22 PM

Weird - I heard the tune and immediately thought of the line "ower the hills and far away." Looked in the DT, and there are 6 versions. Click here for one.


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Subject: RE: Help: John Gorman, Jack the Piper, Drumshanbo
From: GUEST,Bruce O.
Date: 15 Apr 01 - 08:35 PM

That version has only half of the verses. See "Over the Hills and far away" in the Scarce Songs 2 file on my website for the full original song, and original version of the tune (and Jack the Piper). www.erols.com/olsonw


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Subject: RE: Help: John Gorman, Jack the Piper, Drumshanbo
From: Big Tim
Date: 16 Apr 01 - 04:23 AM

Thanks Sorcha, so he was a trevelling musician. Wonder about his "tragic" death. I suspect this requires a little local knowledge. However I ws very moved to learn of his burial there with the famine victims.


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Subject: RE: Help: John Gorman, Jack the Piper, Drumshanbo
From: GUEST,Mel
Date: 26 Mar 17 - 03:19 PM

He was my great grand uncle. What would you like to know?


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Subject: RE: Help: John Gorman, Jack the Piper, Drumshanbo
From: leeneia
Date: 27 Mar 17 - 10:41 AM

Hello, Mel. Here are some questions.

Was he really a piper? What kind of pipes did he play?
Did he make money at it? Where did he play?
Did he play alone or with others?
Does your family have any music passed down by him?


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Subject: RE: Help: John Gorman, Jack the Piper, Drumshanbo
From: GUEST,Peter Laban
Date: 27 Mar 17 - 10:50 AM

John O'Gorman wike page


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Subject: RE: Help: John Gorman, Jack the Piper, Drumshanbo
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Dec 17 - 06:06 PM

We must be related so? He was my grand uncle!

Rory


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Subject: RE: Help: John Gorman, Jack the Piper, Drumshanbo
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Dec 17 - 06:07 PM

We must be related so. He was my grand uncle. Who are you?
I'm in Athlone.

Rory

Duffyrory@hotmail.com


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